Part 1: Is Anyone There?. Professor John Polkinghorne. 2002

John Polkinghorne
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This is the 25th year in the series of the Geneva Lecture
Series, and we're extremely proud to be
able to bring an outstanding slate of lecturers
and presenters this anniversary year.
The series is as much the brainchild of Reverend Jason
Chen as anyone on the lecture committee.
He certainly started, initiated the series,
has seen it through its 25 years.
And speaking to that, I hope that Jason
is at a point where he might be able to give attention
to a representative from the Association of Campus Ministers,
Father John Steckler, who would like to say a few words,
perhaps at this point, if our guest will permit us.
Thank you very much.
Jason, if you'd come forth, we, from the Association of Campus
Ministers, would love to recognize your 25 years
as leadership of the Geneva Lecture Series.
So please come forth, Jason.
Let's give Jason an applause for his many years.
Thanks.
In those 25 years, I believe I've
made about half of these great presentations,
and I appreciate Jason's great leadership in this.
We wish, as the Association of Campus Ministers,
as which Jason is a member, to show our appreciation
and celebrate with him these 25 great years of leadership.
So we have here a certificate we wish
to present him from the Association,
from all the members.
It reads, the Association of Campus Ministers
honors the many years of faithful leadership
and ministry of Jason Chen, and for his many outstanding
contributions to the academic and spiritual life
of the University of Iowa community,
given with grateful appreciation on the occasion
of the 25th anniversary of the Geneva Lecture Series,
March 2002.
Congratulations, Jason.
Thank you.
I'm surprised, and I'm humbled.
And thank you so very much, and thank you for being here, too.
And thank you, Sir John, for being here.
Thank you, John.
Thank you, Jason.
Certainly, to Jason's and the committee's great credit,
there has been an expansion of interest
in these symposia, which seek to link the life of the mind
with the spiritual side of students, faculty,
and the Iowa City community.
To this end, this lecture is co-sponsored
by the University of Iowa Student Government,
the Department of Physics, the School of Religion,
and the Program in Literature, Science, and the Arts.
And we, on behalf of all of them,
welcome you here this evening, particularly
guests who have traveled from other universities
to be with us this evening.
Turning now to Dr. Polkinghorne, I
think those of you who attended the afternoon session
realized the breadth of his learning
and the depth of his spiritual commitment.
He wears many titles, all of them nobly,
among them the title Sir, as a Knight Commander
of the British Empire.
He is a member of the Royal Society,
and I believe the only ordained clergy member currently
as a member of the society.
And I think this speaks to the perspective
that he brings from his broad training in physics,
particularly in elementary particle physics, where
he enjoyed a very fruitful career before undertaking
studies toward ordination to become an Anglican priest.
He served in parish assignments for a number of years,
and then was called back to his alma mater, Cambridge,
to be president of Queen's College
and to assume a number of very important responsibilities,
both within Cambridge University and within the policy
determination bodies of the government of the United
Kingdom.
And of particular interest are those
concerning the use of human stem cells
in research, which has attracted a great deal of attention,
as well as controversy, on this campus in recent weeks.
At this time, I would just like to welcome Sir John
to the podium, suggest that he is, indeed,
a man of all seasons, particularly
having come directly to us from Calgary
and finding that this is a very tropical welcome.
And I hope that you will support that with your applause
as he comes forward to talk to us on, is anyone there?
Sir John?
Well, thank you very much.
I'm very glad to be here and have
the chance of taking part in this really very remarkable
lecture series that has been going for these 25 years.
It's a privilege and a pleasure for me to do that.
So is there anyone there?
Well, what I'm asking, of course,
is, is there a mind and a purpose behind what
is happening in the world?
Or is it just one thing after another?
And so I'm raising the question of the existence of God.
Is the world a creation?
Well, if it's a creation, we don't
expect it to be full of items that
have been stamped, made by God.
God is going to be a little bit more subtle in revealing
the divine presence than that.
It's raising the question of whether there
is a meaning and purpose of work in the world,
whether God's mind and will lie behind what is happening.
As I say, God's presence will be more subtle
than our simply stumbling across items stamped, made by God.
But it would be very surprising if there weren't some hints
and nudges of the divine presence,
if indeed this universe is a creation.
So what form could they take?
Well, they could take a variety of forms.
I'd like to start by going to Stephen Hawking's book,
Brief History of Time.
And the interesting thing about that book,
or one of the many interesting things about that book,
is that God keeps on popping up in the middle of the book.
It's a book about quantum cosmology.
And there isn't any reason particularly
why Steve, who is a former colleague of mine,
should mention God at all.
But nevertheless, God does keep on popping up.
You won't find God in the index of the book,
but you will find God in the text.
So why is that?
Well, it's not for me to put thoughts into Steve's mind,
but it seems to me that one of the reasons may well be
that as physicists study the universe in which we live,
we are deeply impressed by the rational transparency
and rational beauty of the world.
We live in a world that has a very deep order to it.
A world, moreover, whose order is something
that we can ourselves discover and enjoy.
Of course, obviously, we need to understand the world
in an everyday sense, just to make our way
to survive in life.
But we can go very much beyond that.
I was a quantum physicist, and the quantum world,
the subatomic world of the very small,
is totally different from the world of every day.
In the quantum world, if you know where something is,
you don't know what it's doing.
You know what it's doing, you don't know where it is.
That's Heisenberg's uncertainty principle in a nutshell.
It's quite different from the clear
and determinate world of every day.
It's different, but nevertheless, we can understand it.
The world is rationally transparent to us,
and when we do understand it,
we receive the reward of wonder.
Wonder is a very important word for a scientist.
Doing science is pretty hard work,
but the payoff for that hard work
is that the more we understand the world in which we live,
the more we see its beautiful order,
and that fills us with that experience of wonder.
Moreover, we come to realize that the world
is very particular in its character,
although, as far as we know,
life only began on Earth about four billion years ago,
and of course, self-conscious life only occurred
very, very recently in the history of the world.
Nevertheless, there is a sense in which the universe
was pregnant with life from the very beginning,
immediately following the Big Bang.
The physical fabric of the world, its given structure.
So what I was trying to say was that
the universe was pregnant with life in the beginning
in the sense that the physical fabric of the world,
that means the given laws of nature,
had to be just right to allow the possibility
of carbon-based life.
You can see that by simply thinking about carbon itself.
Every atom of carbon in your body came from a star.
You are people of stardust,
and it's only because the laws of nuclear physics
are exactly what they are that stars are able
to make the carbon that is the essential constituent of life.
So we live in a world that is fruitful
in its built-in potentiality,
which is, to my mind, suggestive
that there is a purpose behind this world,
and that it's rationally beautiful
in its structure and order,
which is, to me, suggestive that there is indeed
a divine mind behind the order of the world.
When Steve Hawking talks about the mind of God,
I'm never quite sure where Steve's tongue
is in relation to his cheek,
but it does seem to me that as we study this world
of rational beauty,
a world shot through with signs of mind,
we should be prepared to consider the possibility
that that mind is spelt with a capital M.
That's the first thing I want to say.
But, of course, the coming to be of life,
and indeed the development of structure
in the whole universe,
has been a long evolving process,
spreading over about 14 billion years.
So the next thing I think we need to consider
is how we should think about an evolutionary world.
There's no doubt at all that that's the universe
in which we live.
Now, people sometimes think that there is some sort
of conflict between evolutionary thinking
and religious thinking.
But I think that's a bad mistake to make.
And it is certainly a very bad historical mistake
to suppose that when Darwin published
The Origin of Species in 1859,
there was this confrontation between scientific light
and religious darkness.
That's a myth, a misleading story in this case,
that writers and the media very often
want to try and peddle to us.
But it's historically quite inaccurate.
When Darwin published his ideas,
there was a good deal of discussion
and a good deal of struggle about it.
There were people in the scientific world
who found it difficult to accept his understanding.
And there were people in the religious world
who from the beginning were welcoming
to the insights that Darwin had provided.
One of those people who was most active in that way
was an Anglican clergyman called Charles Kingsley,
who wrote a book called The Water Babies
and a number of other novels as well.
And in that writing, Kingsley coined the phrase
that I think perfectly describes how theologically
we should think about an evolutionary world.
What Kingsley said was this.
No doubt God could have snapped the divine fingers
and brought into being a ready-made world.
And in fact, Kingsley said,
God had chosen to do something cleverer than that.
For in making an evolutionary world,
God had brought into being a creation
that could make itself.
That's the way to understand an evolving world.
God has endowed the world
with very great fruitful potentiality.
But the way that potentiality is brought to birth,
the way it is realized,
is through the shuffling explorations
of happenstance, if you like,
of the way that creatures are allowed to be themselves
and to make themselves.
And that, it seems to me,
is a very satisfying theological insight
because if we believe that the creator
is also the God of love,
then I don't think we can believe
that the world that God brought into being
is God's divine puppet theater
in which God pulls every string
and makes every creature dance to the divine tune alone.
The gift of love is always the gift
of some due degree of independence
to the object of love.
I mean, parents know that.
Parents, as their children grow up,
have to allow their children to be themselves
and to make themselves.
Children learn to ride a bicycle
and there has to come a time
when they are allowed to go off
into the dangerous traffic on their own.
Similarly, God has brought into being a world
in which creatures are allowed to make themselves.
And that world, it seems to me,
is a greater good than a ready-made world would be.
It is a greater good,
but it is a good that has, to it, unnecessary cost.
You cannot have a world that is exploring
and realizing its potentiality,
which is free from ragged edges or blind alleys.
And it's interesting that the scientific insight
of an evolutionary world is able, I believe,
to help theology with what is religious belief's
most difficult problem.
What is the most difficult problem for religious belief?
Well, you all know what it is.
It is, of course, the problem of the evil
and suffering in the world.
And if we think about evolutionary process,
we think about the evolutionary process
that has brought about the growth
and complexification of life here on Earth,
that amazing three-and-a-half to four-billion-year history
has been driven by the engine of genetic mutation.
It is gene change that brings about new forms of life
and has turned a world that for a billion or two years
contained only bacteria into a world
that now today contains you and me.
Now, that's a great fruitfulness.
But if you have a process of genetic mutation
that enables some cells to change their character
and to produce new forms of life,
you cannot help also having a world
in which other cells will mutate and become malignant.
You can't have one without the other.
The presence of cancer in the world,
which is an anguishing fact about the world,
is not a gratuitous fact about the world,
is not a sign that the creator is callous or incompetent.
It is the necessary cost of a world allowed to make itself.
It is the shadow side of an evolving world.
Now, I don't suggest for a minute
that that solves all the problems
that we feel about evil and suffering.
But as I say, I do think it provides us
with very mild help in that respect.
You see, we all tend to feel
that if we'd been in charge of creation,
frankly, we would have done it better.
We would have kept all the nice things
and thrown away all the nasty things.
We would have had the sunsets and the flowers and so on,
but we would have got rid of the disease and disaster.
But the more scientifically we understand
the process of the world,
the more we see how those things intertwine with each other.
The process of the world, in a sense, is a package deal.
You can't pull it apart and keep the good things
and throw away the bad things.
They are inextricably intertwined with each other.
And I think that is a mild help in our thinking
about why the world is a world that has malignancy
as part of its process.
So that's the next thing I want to say.
The revolving world is, in my view, a great good,
but it is a good that has a cost.
I don't know if we could argue
about whether that is a cost worth paying.
I don't say that's a trivial question.
In fact, it's quite a profound question,
but it is a question that we have to face.
I suppose you believe that everything I've said so far
is totally convincing and totally helpful in everything.
If you were to buy all that,
it would only give you a rather limited picture
of the nature of God.
It would give you a picture of a God who is,
if you like, the cosmic architect,
the one who holds the world in being,
but that God could as well be the God of deism,
the God who simply sets the world spinning
and sees what happens as the God of the universe.
