Caleigh Hardy on meeting Hardy, Motherhood, Country Star Wife Life & Why it's Cool to Care

Whatever is the farthest thing from Taipei is me. I just kind of took a risk and I was like, let's do it. So, I quit my job. >> You are the most supportive person I have ever met. You are married to like one of the most successful people in country music and you are not too cool for Broadway. Meanwhile, >> why would you be? >> We'd only hung out like twice and I had my sority formal coming up. I was like, "Hey, I know you're like 35, but something that people don't talk about, I feel like is so trendy right now to be like, I'm cutting them out of my life. They're they're toxic. I'm cutting them off. And it's like bring back caring. Like you have to care about things. He DM' me and obviously I'm like stalking him and they're like >> you're like throwing your bra on the stage, >> which by the way I have done at his shows. Like >> what has that transition been like becoming a mom? >> I think people are so scared of it, but it's beautiful. The harsh news that people need to hear is that if you don't like a party bus, you are boring. That's my TED talk. >> Hi house guest. Welcome back to my home. This week you are coming over to hang out with me and a friend. We have Callie Hardy on the show today. She is like actually the nicest girl I think I've ever met in my entire life and I am so excited for y'all to get to meet her. Obviously, she is Hardy's wife. She is so much more than that. She really her Instagram bio is like woo girl and she is just so nice. Like we're telling you guys how we met, all the things. We're talking more about her motherhood you guys are going to love. But before we get into today's episode, I did need to announce our next book club pick, which is a house guest fave. It's Susie Welch's new book, Becoming You. Earlier this year, we did the Values episode, which is one of, if not the most referenced podcast episode. It is by me most referenced, but also just like the amount of DMs that I get from y'all about that episode every day. It was released in January. It's just the most interesting thing ever. Like, you think you know what values are, but you don't. She creates this entire framework. which is this class at NYU where there's like 15 I believe values that you have things you've never heard of in your life and then your aptitudes and then she combines that with something that's like economically viable. It tells you what to do with your life but more than that it makes you like understand yourself, understand other people better. It's so fascinating. So when this book came out I was like okay that has to be a house guest book club pick. Also I did want to let you guys know cuz I do get a lot of DMs and questions about the quiz. So, when that episode went live, the quiz wasn't live yet, but the quiz is live now and you guys can take the quiz. Code Kinsey 40 for 40% off. It's a free quiz, but if you guys want, like I paid for it just to have like more in-depth like conclusions on it. But if you guys are interested, you guys can use that code for 40% off. But anyway, Becoming You by Susie Welch is our next book club book pick. And if you guys are a house guest listener, like it is so right up our alley. Like, you guys are going to absolutely absolutely love it. Anyway, without further ado, let's welcome Callie Hardy on to the show. I like a person who likes things a little too much. >> That's fine. >> And that's like me with everything. >> That's fun, >> you know? I like that. I think like what's the fun in only liking things halfway? >> I literally couldn't agree more. Dive into something, you know? >> Exactly. Like if you are semiinterested in something, like just go all out. >> My goal for this year was to literally get into hobbies cuz like I have so many different interests and things that I like, but I never I I like don't >> I don't dive in and that's what I need to do. Okay. What hobbies are we looking at here? >> Oh my god. Okay. So, I don't know. Maybe you can help me. You're like the You're a Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I do want to start getting more into ma jang. >> This is really exciting for me. >> We My family is a big game family. Like, we love games. Any dinner, anytime anyone's over. I mean, we I do game night with my friends all the time, but I love a game that you have to like think sometimes, you know. >> Oh, and that's maj. >> Yeah. So, I would love to start getting into that more. Um, I love animals. I have to do some sort of animal >> horses >> hobby. I love riding. Like I Yes, Holly. >> I've been wanting to go visit Cowboy Ranch Rescue. Yes, we should go. >> We have to. Yeah. So, I want to do that. And then I don't know. I need to start cooking more. Like, oh my god, I have to cook. It's so embarrassing. The end. >> You have a recipe journal? >> Yeah, I do. >> I'll write some things down for you. >> I actually really enjoy it. I just don't do it. I get that. >> And every time I cook, I'm like, why don't I do this more? This is nice. Yes. >> But ever since I had Rosie, I was like, "No." Like, "My family is going to be a family that cooks >> and eats dinner together, so I have to get on that." >> We We have some great movement that can be made here. And I really like this starting this jumping off. >> We have You're like, "We have lots of room to do something here. >> So much room now." And like, we're heading in the right direction. >> I did sourdough for a while, but >> Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, I did start for a while, but I travel so much that it died in the fridge. >> Well, you know, I Do you need starter? I have some. I can give you some before you leave. >> I will gladly take some. >> I'll give you I have some a pumpkin cinnamon swirl loaf. I'll take I'll give you some to go as well. It's incredible. It really is. But you have to butter it and you have to put cinnamon on it for >> Are people not buttering their toast? >> People butter it, but they're not adding cinnamon to the butter. And I feel very passionate about the cinnamon being added to the butter. Cinnamon sugar butter is the best thing on this planet. >> 100%. Texas Roadhouse butter. >> So, do you like >> Do you have a schedule for your sourdough? Cuz that's like time consuming. >> Well, you can keep it and put it to sleep in your fridge and even if you think it's dead, it's not. You can always >> just baking it. It takes like a >> I know. Well, I'll do a prep the day before and it takes like 5 to 6 hours >> of my prep schedule and I'll just do it while I'm working from home or at night and then I'll bake it the next morning. >> That's That's beautiful. No, like we are really we're getting somewhere. Should we tell the listeners like how we met? I think we should probably start there. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> Okay, guys. Well, this is my friend Callie Hardy. We have been Instagram friends for quite some time. >> You are also actually the nicest girl I've ever met in my entire life. I always say that about you. >> That is so nice. >> You are the most supportive person I have ever met. Like, we're at dinner and she's like, "Guys, but do you know about Kinsey's cards?" No, you have to play Kinsey's cards. She's like, "Here's a question for you. You you you people will stop playing them. She's like, "Oh, sorry. Get back to the cards over here. >> But you're okay." But it's you're so easy to support because it's a great ass product. This is what I mean. >> Like it is good. Like there's not enough good [ __ ] out there. And so when you find something good, you're like, "Hell yeah." Like it made me excited. Do you know what I mean? >> Yes. No, you are literally It's everything. You are the most supportive, nicest girl actually in the world. >> That is really nice. I appreciate you saying that. I I mean that's the point, right? like when you see something you like and you are awesome. So it's like you want to support somebody who is nice and kind and welcoming. I was so excited when I got the invite to the dinner. I was like it's happening. I was like we're going to be friends. >> I was like we're really making some movement here. Then I hosted a friend of mine dinner a couple months ago which was the best dinner. That was like the best group of girls. >> It was so good. >> It was incredible. Like I seriously have not stopped talking about that since because >> influencer events like >> 100%. >> Send a chill down my spine. >> I don't even go. >> No, I I don't anymore. Like I literally don't anymore. It is >> like the way that they're portrayed on like TV shows like people making fun of them. Like that's how I feel is reality when I go to those things. >> No, I think that is actually how they are. >> Do you know what I mean? So it's really hard for me to enjoy stuff like that. Like Yeah. Like I've just stopped going kind of. And so when I went to the dinner, I seriously it was the best group of girls, the best vibe. Everyone was so genuine. Like I feel like everyone at that table would be friends. >> Mhm. >> Outside of that room. Do you know what I mean? Like it was so good. You put on such a great event. >> Thank you. >> I cannot speak highly enough of that. >> It really was a group of girls. I had just The podcast is going to be so annoyed of me talking about this, but I just finished reading this book, The Art of Hosting. I think I was probably telling you guys about it then. >> Yeah, you were talking about it. So, I was implementing so many of the things that I'd learned like throughout that book and it really made the biggest difference even as much as like that seating chart was very well thought out. Like there were things before that I did to that dinner to make it so much better and that was what it was. But it it's literally all thanks to Pria Parker who's the author of that book. Like I learned so much and we and I feel the same way. Like I don't like influencer events and they give me like a lot of stress and anxiety. I love hosting a dinner, of course, but like >> very different. It's very different and I was really stressed about it, but it was it ended up being like the best time ever. So, anyways, we really bonded there and we're going to be on a party bus very soon. I'm gone in the next month, but I'm back in October and I need us to be on a party bus. >> When do you leave? >> ASAP on Tuesday. >> Okay. Okay, that's totally fine. >> As soon as possible. >> We'll find a day. We'll find a day. >> That's another thing I love about you is that our shared mutual love of party buses, they get a bad rep. What's so bad about a honky tonk express? >> The harsh news that people need to hear is that if you don't like a party bus, you are boring. Like, I'm so sorry. >> Same with Broadway. We were talking about that, too. >> What the hell is wrong with people? Like, people act like they move here and then Broadway just like goes to die. It is the most magical place on the planet. >> It is actually the most fun place that there ever has been. >> And it's so fun. Like, if you're coming here and having fun when you're visiting it, like, why wouldn't you do the same thing when you live here? >> 100%. I love Broadway and like I have been I told you this at the dinner. I still haven't had my night yet, but I've been planning like the day that I gave birth. I was like, "Michael, here's the deal. There's going to be a day and I need the whole night and then I need that whole next morning and I will give you frozen milk, whatever. I'm going to Broadway and like I don't want to wake up. I don't want to open my eyelids for 24 hours from the moment I go out until the next day." Like >> and I've been prepping for that. So, it hasn't happened yet, but that will be our Broadway night. >> That is another thing I love about you is that you are not too cool for anything. Like, you are so you are married to like one of the most successful people in country music and you are not too cool for Broadway. Meanwhile, >> could you be >> all these people who move to Nashville and like suddenly think that they're the [ __ ] and they're too cool for Broadway and like look at you out and about on a honky tonk express. >> That is like probably the worst thing ever is when you're too cool. Like, >> yes, >> if you're too cool for things or like people who act like they're too cool for things, it just sucks the enjoyment out of everything. >> It makes other people feel weird. Like, that's like being too cool for something is like the same vibe as when you like yuck someone's yum. Do you know what I mean? >> And you're just like, why? Like, >> what what does that bring you? That's I hate that. So, yeah, you can't be too cool for things. All the fun things are the least cool things. >> Yes. >> Do you know what I mean? So, it's like that is what that's where the real fun is. >> Yep. So, >> and it's fun to care. It's fun to like something. Like, it it's just fun to get into something, but people like people are living those boring, stale lives because they think that they're too cool for everything. It's like, just go to Broadway. You'll be fine. >> And I feel like that's so trendy right now. And I always I always talk about this to my friends. I feel like it's so trendy right now to be like, >> "You don't care." Or like just be so nonchalant or be like, "Oh, I'm cutting them out of my life. They're they're toxic. I'm cutting them off." off and it's like bring back caring like you have to care about things you have to nurture like relationships in I mean in all aspects of your life like you have like bring back caring I hate I hate that >> hate it we have gone way too [ __ ] far when it comes to boundaries like just say you don't want a single soul in your life seriously >> I literally if I see another Tik Tok on boundaries oh my god I'm going to throw my phone out the window like who is that girl like I think she made a Tik Tok it went viral about picking your friends up at the report. Have you used I've seen that. Yes. >> And she was just talking about how that's a lost art. And I'm like, "Yes, yes, that is what I've been saying." Like just cuz someone pisses you off one day, they're like, "I need to set boundaries and I need to kick this toxicity out of my life." Like, oh my god. If the over therapized language, like I cannot handle. I seriously cannot handle it. >> It is so crazy cuz also like the boundaries that people are talking about on the internet are not actually boundaries and what they were meant to be to begin with. It's literally just like cutting someone off because you were slightly inconvenience. It's like news flash, relationships are inconveniences. That's what that is. >> And that's what makes relationships beautiful. If you cut every single person out of your life that pissed you off one day, >> like hello, no one would have any friends. >> No, you would not have a single friend and then we have a loneliness epidemic and we're shocked. >> Yeah. Literally. Exactly. Exactly. >> Crazy. >> I know. I I that actually gets on my nerves so much and I think about that so often because you have to that's just part of the human experience. Like nobody's perfect. People go through highs and lows and as a friend or anything like a significant other, you have to be able to forgive and be understanding and see past those things. And like just because someone's not I mean you don't have to like everyone. Like if someone if you just don't like someone and you're like I know this person isn't going to be my friend, like that's fine. But if someone's been there for you and they've been a good friend to you, like you owe them >> that. Yes. >> Even if it's inconvenient cuz you give it back to them. >> When people say you don't owe anyone anything, I'm like shut up. No, I seriously you owe them like common decency, respect, kindness. Like you actually do if you want relationships. Like it we're really in this like new age of >> It's so It's such a selfish like culture right now. >> I just think we've taken therapy too far to where it's become like self obsession. >> Yeah. >> And we're never going to like get what where we want to be. >> No, it's it's very true. And that's you just can't do that. You can't do that. People are very multifaceted. They have a lot of different, you know, things eb and flow. Everything es and flows, but you can't be selfish. Like if I feel like I truly feel like if all things were rooted in love and gratitude, it you will always find your answer to everything. And like not saying, you know, there's always a point that you reach where you like it's time. Cut someone off, whatever. But give multiple chances like don't be so rigid, you know, >> like put yourself out there. And I think it's like more rare that you actually need to cut someone off than it is completely on TikTok that are telling you like I cut this person off and these people they were jealous of me and they were this and that and the other and it's like no one no one thinks about you that much girl. I don't know what to tell you. >> Literally no one think No, it is seriously coming from like a selfobsession like a perspective of a self obsession. Like it has to be no one is thinking about you that much. Like no, >> seriously. And that's why it's so >> like people get so excited when they find somebody that cares >> because like you just don't hear about that anymore. And like that's sad. That's so sad. >> No, literally bring back caring. >> Yeah. So that's that's Yeah, that's my TED talk. >> Bring back caring on the Honky Tonk Express. >> Party bus is the way to do it. >> Party buses bring back people together. >> We like go into business on a party bus. >> It's literally therapeutic. If you haven't spent a night on a party, >> if you're in a funk, honest to God, I'm so serious. You might just need a weekend on a party about Yeah, you just need to do fun things. Like, let loose a little, you know? >> Let loose. Honestly, peak of my life, I could tell you right now, it was fall 2022. I was with my friends from Dallas. She's like, it was it was a brisk day. >> 73 out. And we had a lot of high noons and we were on a party bus, the Honky Tonk Express to be exact. >> Yeah, that's a great word. I don't think I've ever reached like that level of peak happiness. Truly, >> they're so much fun. Like >> so fun. >> Oh my god. I mean, did you used to do party buses in high school? Was that it? Yeah. Okay. Same. >> Like I know some people dancing and stuff. Yes. Concert. >> Oh, I mean that was where it all my eyes just >> it's where it started. >> My soul opened up and I was like, what is this? >> This is the greatest thing ever. >> Yeah. It's it's the best. And how fun is that? Like it just break I mean they're you know they're going down at like 10:00 a.m. in the morning. >> Oh yeah. The city is just filled with like magic when the party buses hit the streets in the morning. >> Fairy dust as I see every everyone that passes. >> We're gonna do but which one do we do is the question. Like how many follow? >> It's I'm completely following your lead. >> Okay. All right. And we obviously we have to do a theme. Like >> Oh, obviously we love theme. >> No, no, no. It's And we're going out on Broadway after in the theme. >> In the theme. We have to. And thank god no one will even notice us in this theme. It's going to be so chill. We're going to be so relaxed. >> Okay. We on my bachelorette party, we went to New Orleans and we did one of the nights where everybody dressed up like Michael and we were some of these outfits were so convincing. Like I seriously people were taking pictures with my friends. One of Michael's friends from his hometown >> just so happened to walk past the bar that we were at on Bourbon Street and grabbed my friend Amanda and was like, "Dude, >> what's it's me like literally thought that it was him and we were like, "Oh my god." So we go all out. Like we take a theme seriously in these parts. >> That is so good. >> Yeah. I have to show you the video. We made like the best Tik Tok. >> I feel like I did Tik Tok. >> That is incredible. >> It was so fun. So yeah, big theme. >> You guys have the craziest story. Michael and I. >> Yes. Can you take us through cuz you're from California. Yeah. >> And then you went to college in the south. >> Yes. >> And then one day you get a little DM. >> Yeah. Okay. So I Yeah. I'm from San Diego. And I am very much like a SoCal San Diego girl. Like >> that's where the hippie love and peace comes from in you. >> I feel like people think of California, they think of LA. San Diego is very different. It's very different. And it has very like chill, you know, just like beach beach vibes. It really is just like a beach town. >> One of my like childhood best friends is from Carl'sbad. So I always That's where I'm from. Yeah. So I spent so much time there. Yeah. I love it there. >> You're familiar. So I Yeah. I am very much like California. But but I've always loved the South. I've been obsessed with it. Like I have no family, no friends, like no ties to the South, but ever since I was a little girl, I just loved it. It was so fabulous. and like people get dressed up and hosting and traditions and history and like I always just thought it was so like intriguing to me. So I knew I had to go to college in the south. Like there was no other option. So I went to Miss and it was the best four years of my life. Every minute I'm obsessed. I am like hottie totty till I die. I love everything about it. But yeah, so also I was like southern men like but I also was under the impression that it was like there's a difference between cowboys and southern men slash like rednecks which is like the category that I fell into. But like I was like oh cowboys in Mississippi like we're going to miss and then I got there and I was like wait why are all these New Balance tennis shoes like walking around on campus when I live? >> I get to see a single cowboy hat with >> No, literally. But but I am home for winter break and yeah, I get this DM. We still talk about like how we came across each other. We It's very confusing. But I get a DM from Michael and this is way back when. I don't even like, you know, he just has like fish pictures and like hunting pictures on his Instagram. And he sends me this DM. Doesn't say a word. No words, no text, anything. It's a video of him in a deer stand. He was hunting in head totoe camo taking a fat pole of Evan Williams just like out of a handle and I was like, "What is this?" I I thought it was the funniest thing. I thought it was so creative and different and I was like, "This is my man." Like >> literally that is my man. >> Like he put thought into this. Do you know what I mean? And so I loved it. And so we just started I sent some, you know, like flirty thing back or whatever. I was like, "Save some for me." So we just started talking and we just kind of hit it off. It was like very casual, you know, nothing crazy and he was just writing songs at the time. And Oxford, where Miss, has a little music venue called The Lyric, which is actually where we end ended up getting engaged like years later. that he had a buddy of his was playing a show at the Lyric and last minute their drummer got sick and Michael was supposed to be out on the road with FGL writing and they canled that for whatever reason last minute and so they asked Michael to fill in and he was like, "Okay, yeah, I I can go." So then the day of the show, my friends and I were all going already and he texted me and he was like, "Are you like in town? Can you come to this show? Like let's meet up." And I was like, "Oh, I'm already going. I'll meet you there." So we went to the show. He was play. I'm like I say drums. He was on Do you know what a coahhone is? Like did we talk about this? >> Tell me this. Yes. >> She says drums loosely. >> Yeah. So loose. Like could it be looser? He's on a box drum like sitting on stage. And the my friends retell the story and they're always like, "Yeah, he was playing the bongos." >> Like it's it's more similar than a drum >> literally. So I I we walk in and I'm like with my friend Brooke and I'm like there he is. Like that's my man. He's like sitting on this box just like and I'm like this is it. Like so I'm trying to wave him down in the crowd. I'm like it's me. Like hey and he didn't even look at me like I swear to God he never saw me and I was like what the [ __ ] But the show's over. We meet upstairs on the little balcony and we I was so oh my god I was so nervous. I literally and I don't know why. Like I don't know why I was nervous. Like I don't like I've never been really like nervous around guys. I don't know. And I had my drink and I just remember I like saw him come out the door and I was like, "Oh my god, he's coming." And I just like walked over the trash can. I just like go chugged my drink and like threw it in the trash can. I was like, "Hi." And >> after you're waving him down in the crowd, then suddenly he comes up to you and that's when you get shy. >> Yeah. He was like he he got out the thing. Yeah. Literally. Literally. I was like basically like woo. And I feel like >> you're like throwing your bra on the stage, >> which by the way I have done. I have done at his shows like in more recent I think last year. >> It should be you. >> Yeah. >> Literally get enough damn bras up on the stage like and oh my god I didn't think that through. I actually like think about it sometimes at night like I wore my ugliest bra ever and like then I posted a video on Instagram and everyone was like what? That's the [ __ ] bra that you wear every day. I was like god why did I do this to myself? But yeah, anyway, so we met and totally hit it off and it just was like I don't know, it was just very crazy. It was like >> it was like peace. Like we just met and clicked and we were both so into each other. It was like very reciprocated which was, you know, a great sign. So we hung out all night, >> hit it off, went to Huddle House, and yeah, that was it. He left his wallet in my condo, which he swears was not on purpose. And I was like, we know better than that. like it's been years. You can stop lying. And then >> we literally have a kid. You didn't tell us the truth. >> Yeah. >> He's still playing hard to get. And we um I was 20 and I was coming up here for my 21st birthday. So I was like, I'm going to Nashville and he was like so excited. So my girls and I came up on my 21st birthday and he like rolled out the red carpet for us. He showed us all around town. He hung out with me and my girls all weekend. It was so fun. And then what sealed the deal was we had only hung out like twice. I mean literally those two times and I had a sor my sority formal coming up and I asked him I was like hey I know you're like 35 but he was like I don't how old was he? He was like 26 and >> I know you're old and all literally I was like are you too like old to do this but do you want to come to my sority formal? and he didn't have a traditional college experience, so he didn't do Greek life or anything like that. And he was like, "Yeah, like sure, [ __ ] it. I'll go." So, he came down and we had so much fun, but he asked me to be his girlfriend on the school bus ride >> on the way to the venue. >> That's so sweet. >> And we've been together ever since. So, yeah, it was modern day love story. >> It's a beautiful love story. Before we get into anything else, my favorite story ever that you tell is the like FGL on his Instagram story. >> Oh my god, how did I forget that? >> There is nothing better than this story. It is so I have told probably five people that story since because it is so funny. >> It like it actually I seriously I laugh so hard every time I think about it. But it was so like it's like the honest to god truth. I >> and also at this point like he's early in his career. >> Yeah. I mean he's just writing songs. Up down was on the radio like had just gone to radio I think and that and that was his first number one. So like >> it wasn't his first cut but like I don't I don't know. I didn't know anything about music. I was going to say you're also completely new to this. Like you don't No. >> Yeah. Like it's one of those things like when you're in Nashville and you have friends in music, you understand the lingo and stuff but it takes a second and then you start to get it. Like I understand it because it's a lot of my friends husbands. I get it now. Before that I would have been like I don't understand. >> I have learned so much about the music industry. But yeah, so he was just writing like writing songs. Upd me. So okay. So, he DM'd me and obviously I'm like stalking him and there's there's a couple pictures like too many for comfort. There were like just too many pictures of him with FGL Florida Georgia line. And I'm looking at these pictures and I'm thinking to myself, oh my god. Cuz he's wearing and he's wearing a pass, okay? And they're like in front of a tour bus like it's the you know, like the whole thing. And I'm like, this guy is an FGL super fan. like he this man is using his money to travel around the country and follow them and buy meet and greets with FGL and I was like ah like I don't know like I don't know and that's just like with any super fan like it could have been anyone like I would have been like something's not right here like something's not right so I kind of >> following them around the country >> I literally was like oh my god like I don't know about this I was like we're going need to get to the bottom of this. And for whatever reason, I like never asked about that or anything against my better judgment. But yeah, I was so freaked out. I was like, "Oh, fuck." Like, "This is it." I was like, "This is the downfall of of this little relationship." But yeah, I was like, "What the [ __ ] This guy is literally like he's like getting in an I'm picturing him in an RV like following them around the country just being like on every run with them. I didn't know that he was like out there working with them." Yep. So, yeah. Yeah, that is that's one of that's a good one. That's a good one to tell. >> FGL superfan is >> Yeah, FGL superan question mark. I was like, okay. Okay, we're following people around. I was like, someone has a restraining order out there against him. >> Oh my god. Yeah, that was hilarious. I literally I don't think I ever even asked him about it. >> Yeah. Like I don't know what happened. Did you put it together? >> I don't know what happened with that. But okay, FGL sings on Updown. Like they're on Updown with Morgan. So then I think that was kind of like like I connected the dots and I was like okay we're good. We're in the clear. >> I think that we're going to be fine here. >> Yeah. I was like dodge ball with that one. I can't believe I forgot to tell that. Yeah. That's like my favorite thing ever. >> Can you imagine if like your 8-year-old self saw your life now when you just were obsessed with the South? You are living like actually like the Southern royalty dream. >> Oh my god. >> Of like you marry like the country artist. You're in Nashville, Tennessee. Like you really are living that. It is actually so crazy cuz like this is what I was like. Yeah. Literally like if I was eight and you were like what what's your dream life? I would literally be like oh my god in in Tennessee and country music like it is crazy. I don't know. Maybe like people say manifest like all the time. Maybe I was like manifesting before I knew what manifesting was. >> Yeah. You just you were ahead of your time. >> Guess so. >> You were ahead of your time. >> Yeah. I don't know. It is pretty crazy. I think about it all the time. Like look at just what look at our life. Like it is crazy. It's very fun. It's very challenging, but it is wild. Like it's a very unique unique life and we have a lot of fun. >> No. Take us more behind the scenes because your life and schedule would just stress me out so bad. >> I am not okay. Like what day of the week is it? I don't even know. >> It is It's hard. It's definitely a >> It's a transition. Like you have to learn. You definitely have to work your way up to it. And I'm not on the road as much as I used to be because it's just hard. Like you literally are living out of a suitcase. It's pretty tough because even if shows are just Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you're leaving Wednesday and then you're coming home Sunday. So you literally have Monday and Tuesday at home. So that's hard. Like that's a hard schedule. And touring is also not glamorous. I think people have this idea that it's a super glamorous thing and you're on the road and whatever. I every single like wife that I know, they start off, they're on the road 247 and they're like, "You couldn't [ __ ] pay me to get back there." Like, >> yeah. And also something that people don't talk about, I feel like, is it's very different when you're on somebody else's tour versus when it's your tour. So, like I think last year was Michael's first headlining tour. I don't know, I might be getting that wrong, but it is very different. like you kind of get to take a deep breath and be like, "Okay, like this is his tour. You make the rules." Because you're on your best behavior when you're on somebody else's tour. So, you can't really like I don't know. Like, if you're loose Yeah. Like, and it I don't know. Like, I have a lot of family everywhere and you can't just be like, "My whole 10, 15 cousins are coming to the show tonight." Like, you can't really do that, you know? So it's like it's and there's just a lot of other people that you don't know and yes you become friends with everybody and like you get s super close with people but it's just different like it's home away from home but it doesn't really feel like home home like ah home I feel like until it's like your tour. Do you know what I mean? >> Yeah. Are you a routine person typically? >> No. Yeah. So it can't be I mean okay Michael Michael is kind of I mean I wouldn't say more routine but he's like type A and I am so type Z like whatever is the farthest thing from type A is is me and so no I don't have a routine but you really like can't in this life like it's just too hard. There's literally no way. I could be a lot more organized than I am and that would probably help me a lot. Make me feel a lot better throughout the week. But yeah, it's really hard. You just kind of lose track of time. Like you don't know what day it is. You don't know what's going on. You're like, "Wait, what?" You don't know what. And also, I kind of fly by the seat of my pants like I don't know if I'm going to go on the road this weekend. But then last minute, I'm like, "Okay, that sounds fun. I'll go." And then I just throw it back together and go. So, it's like I literally never know what I'm doing. or like the other day when I was supposed to go to the dinner party, we had to like bump up the bus schedule and so then I had to leave earlier than I thought and you know things just happen. How often are you traveling right now? >> Okay. Well, summer is a very busy month and not for tour. I have a lot of like family vacations that we take. We have a lot of like family tradition trips that we take and so those are my priority in the of the entire year. Those trips are our family's priority like every single year. And now we have, you know, Michael's family traditions that we get to go to as well. So there's a lot of travel that's not tour related in the summer, but then summer's also busy season, so we're gone a lot. But I travel like, oh my god, I don't even know. I mean, I've been gone for I've been gone more than I have been home the past couple months. >> That makes sense. But I'd say I go on the road probably every other weekend unless I feel like I need a break and then I'm like I got to stay home. >> Yeah. You're just done. >> Yeah. Well, and Rosie, I'm like, "This poor child needs a a schedule. She needs a sleep schedule. She doesn't know what's day or night. >> She is so cute, too. >> My little muffin. >> I'm obsessed with her. >> She is so cute. She's the best baby in the whole world. >> Like, what has that transition been like becoming a mom? >> Oh my god, it's amazing." Like I think people are so scared of it. Rightfully so. It's a lot. It's a big change. And and I will preface by saying I we have been blessed with the most easy amazing child. Like she really has not given us many problems. And I know that that is not normal and that's not the case for a lot of people. But it's amazing. Like it's so fun and you don't have to change as a person. And like I feel like people make it seem like the day you give birth you're like not you. And that's just not the case. Like you're still you. There are you're a different version of you because you're just put through like a very challenging time and like things are high stress and you're not sleeping and you're learning and there's tension and you know like that is hard but it's beautiful. Like she is amazing. We have so much fun. and everything is new and like you just see life through this little baby's eyes and you get so excited for everything and it just brings like an extra little sparkle to everything you do. Like is she It's just magic. It It is amazing. >> That's like really encouraging to hear because I feel like so much around motherhood which I'm sure everyone's experience is so different. I'm sure if your baby is worse that would really change. actually hesitate to even talk about it because I know that like some moms are going to be screaming through the phone right now at me being like, "You dumb bitch." >> No, but I do think it's good to hear because so much of what you hear online, which understandably, so I'm like also grateful that they're vulnerable, but a lot of it is a little scary cuz you think like, am I going to lose myself? Am I going to lose every single thing that I like? Will I ever have a moment for myself? Am I going to even enjoy this? Like, I know I'm going to love being a mom. But I do like that perspective. Even if I have a different experience, I like to hear that. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. And even like >> even rough patches, they're so temporary and they're very fleeting. So like everything comes to an end. Like you just have to remember that. And the days do go by slow sometimes, but then the weeks, the months go by so fast. So like everything is over before you know it. and you're like, "Oh my god, where's the time?" But it's it's amazing. Like, it really is amazing. And I think people don't have to be scared. Like, I know again again I will say I know that that's not everybody's experience, but I think it's so important to just like try to find the positive and don't go into pregnancy and motherhood with a negative perspective because I think that that manifests and it >> literally will give you a negative experience if you are like so scared and hesitant and like whatever. But um I don't think that it has to be that way. Like I think there's a lot of things you can do to help yourself, but it's really hard. I mean, it does take a village. Like I have family here. Thank God. If my if I couldn't call my sisters and have them like help me and come babysit. My parents are like here part time now. So I and Michael's whole family is here. So that's huge. Like people who don't have support systems. I literally I used to I used to cry every single day my first like month of pregnancy or uh after I gave birth to Rosie because I would just think of like single mothers, people who don't have support and it would literally crush me. Like I don't know how I don't know how people do it alone. >> It's so impressive. I really I like that they are not lying when it's like single mothers are the strongest people in the world. >> They literally are like lit. Like seriously, I just don't even I mean Michael's gone a lot so I am alone with her a lot, but I have >> people behind me and if I didn't >> I seriously don't know what I would do. Like it is Yeah, there's a lot to be single moms out there. Shout out to you guys because >> seriously. >> Yeah. I love what you said about identity and how you don't just like lose your entire identity. And also that made me think you're married to someone whose career is really really big and I feel like it'd be easy to lose yourself in that as well. Like how have you not done that and just navigated that even before becoming a mom cuz you have multiple challenges to where you could easily just lose yourself. Yeah. I think you know it's funny. I've never that's like so not even been a thought of mine. Like it's so not even on the brain because I just know that I would never like it wasn't an option for me. And I think I'm so grounded by my friends and my family that that would just never have happened. But I think it's always important to just like why why would you change? I just don't really understand. I know that people can get a big head, but I think if you always are gracious and humble, you realize that no one's ever below you. Like at any any moment in time or no matter how big like your husband's career gets, like the people around you are your team and they're your friends and everybody is like right there equal. I think it's important like you said like do fun things. Don't be cooler than anybody. Like that is where >> the fun and beauty is in life. And I feel like it's just not I don't know what am I trying to say? Like you can't It's almost like not that serious. Like it Yeah. I also think you have like a temperament for it. I think you were almost like built for this in a way that wasn't super obvious though. Like I think you have such a positive you just naturally are a very positive like glass half full kind of person. But you're als you're very very genuine like in the way you're when you were saying like you're not cooler than anyone like treat everyone the same. You treat everyone the same like there is no difference. You would have no idea even like what kind of world that you're in if someone just met you. So I really also think it's like it's not really an answer. I think you just naturally were like that way. >> No. I mean like that's not an option. Like I never had to work towards it. But I do think that in not losing yourself, I mean, it was there was definitely a moment where it was a very hard transition where we were put through a lot of like stress in the very beginning of like what is this going to be? Like you're gone a lot. I don't know like do I go with you? I like I was in my job. I didn't really know what to do. And I think that it's helped being able to just do my own thing. Like it's so crazy that you can have a job via social media. But even even with that, like >> my management jokes like we always joke that I'm like the most non-influencer influencer ever because like >> I know why people come to my page for the most part. You know what I mean? Like I'm not saying like, "Oh, people only follow me because of Michael." Like they follow me because of me like for me, but I know that the majority of people come to my page because they know about me from him. And like >> they can come for that reason and stay for you though. >> Yeah, totally. And that's fine. Like I know that that's [Music] even like noninfluence influency in that way too because it's like I'm not here to try to like >> change my life or sell people or like bust out a bunch of content just for the sake of it. Like I'm just going to live my life and if you guys want to watch like you can watch but you know people are interested in like behind the scenes and stuff but yeah I don't know. I just like went off on the biggest tangent of all time. >> No I think I want to talk about the times that were like tense. because I think it would just be so hard to be gone all the time. >> Yeah, it was hard. >> So, what was that transition? >> So, like in the very beginning, well, okay, so we were dating for probably 6 months when he was asked if he wanted to sign a record deal and he asked me about it and he was like, "How do you feel about this? Like, I think I'm going to do this." And I didn't. >> Can you also explain like a publishing deal versus a record deal? >> Yeah. Okay, so just in case you didn't know, there are there is a career for people who write songs. So like if you are a songwriter, you can sign a publishing deal and you get paid a salary to write songs. And then a record deal is that's like what people think of when you're like, "Oh, you you're making it big, signing a record deal." Like that is for an artist. So he had a publishing deal and when he was super close with FGL, >> when he was a super fan and following them across the country, >> when he was buying meet and greets, he um they were really close and they kind of actually encouraged him to become an artist and like start singing his own songs. And Big Loud, who is still his label, they um and they're so awesome. They offered him a record deal and he signed. And so then that's when you like officially become an artist and you start like putting out your own music. You can go on tours if you know if everything's working out. So he signed this record deal, but you know there's a lot that comes with that that you just don't really think of. So you right when he signed his record deal, that's when you know there's a lot of work trying to find who you are as an artist. Like fine-tuning things, trying things out. What's your personal style? What's your sound? And like what are you into? And then also you're having to go to radio and go on like these big radio tours which is when you're really gone for a long time. Like you are gone for hundreds of days of the year. Like you are seriously gone way more than you are at home. And that you know you're you're going and talking to all the radio stations, meeting them, basically asking them to play your song. And that's like a necessity if you're going to be an artist cuz like you need your songs on the radio if you want to have mainstream success, you know what I mean? So that was very hard. He was gone a lot. I had just moved to Nashville. Um it was a very I mean he was learning how to deal with that and also like kind of starting to become a little bit recognizable out in public. That was very uncomfortable for him. Then it was uncomfortable for me because it was uncomfortable for him and it was like tension. Do we go out? Do we stay at home? That was a hard transition in personal life. And then we just kind of had to figure out like what are we going to do from here? I knew that I had to get a job. Like I just graduated from college. I was working like weird jobs. Oh my god, I have like the craziest job story. Side note, posted that one. But I knew cuz he was like wanting to get engaged and I was like, "Okay, we can't get engaged until I have like a job job. Like I want to find a good job." I went to school for marketing. And so I got which was like my dream job at the time, a marketing job for AJ Capital, which is they do all the graduate hotels. The Have you been to the one here? It's so cute. So I was super stoked. Had my job. And then with a 9 to-ive job when you are dating an artist who's on tour, you literally do not see them. So you're on completely opposite schedules. So that was very very very tough and we knew that we were going to get married and so I kind of was having to think about like plans and the future. We got engaged while I was still at this job and it was just too much. Like I couldn't see him. I was not having fun. It was bringing me a lot of stress at work and I was trying to plan a wedding and I was like I just want to be able to enjoy this time and then at the same time like simultaneously my social media was kind of like growing and I was getting a lot of opportunity and I you know I was like oh maybe you know maybe this is something that I could actually take seriously and like make money from and then I'll have better hours. I'll have more flexibility. So I just kind of took a risk and I was like okay like let's do it. So, I quit my job and just started doing social media full-time. I mean, full-time, part-time, you know, you know how that goes. But yeah, and it worked out and that opened up a lot of time for us. And so, we were able to be a lot more flexible. I was going out on the road more, which helped our relationship a lot. And yeah, it was kind of all up from there, but it it was a big learning curve. >> Yeah, that's a really hard adjustment. Also, that is a hard adjustment for anyone to be just like a normal person who's like living a normal life and then suddenly you're recognized on the streets. >> It's even harder and weirder when you're the partner that isn't like you grew up in like a normal house. You went to Old Miss, you just like happened to date this guy who ended up going into this. Like you were with him before. So like that is such a >> a weird unique life experience that very few people can relate to. Like that's crazy. >> It it is. And we're we talk about it all the time how thankful we are that we met before all of it because he's all the time talks about how it would have been really hard for him to meet someone after all this like it it it does no matter how great your fans are and how amazing everyone is and how supportive they are. It's not a natural human experience to have like >> fame or that much attention or to have people have so much access to you. And like people are great, you know? Like for the most part, everyone is so great. Like he has the best fans. Everyone is so respectful, so kind. But it's just the reality. Like there's going to be people who make you feel really uncomfortable. There's so many people who just don't really >> boundaries trigger word, but no, who don't really know boundaries. And so, you know, you go out >> and you know the moments when it's going to be worse than it worse or better. Like you know, if you stop at a at a Bies like on the way to Alabama, like he can't go in there. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. So, like you know where it's going to be like better or worse. But like we can't go eat at anywhere around Broadway. We don't go eat, you know, around Midtown actually or like 12 South, any of those hot spots. And like if you do, >> you just kind of know like you know to be prepared that like people are taking pictures of you when you don't know like people are filming you. So it's like there is a weirdness level that comes with it and that is pretty anxietyinducing for sure. But you just kind of have to come to terms with like the fact that that's reality and you're like if this is what you're doing like this is just going to be it. So >> yeah, you just almost have to accept it. >> Yeah, you kind of do. You do and you have to learn because also like my biggest fear in the entire world is somebody having a bad experience with us or like a negative interaction with us whether it's on purpose or not. Like if it's unintentional. Like seriously my worst nightmare. I never want anyone to leave being like they suck. Like I'm at Hardy and N because I know that's so not who we are, but like that's also anxietyinducing. >> You can't control that. >> Yeah, you can't. And you never And then also people just like pull things out of their ass and just like >> they make things up all the time. >> I have had actually this has been like more in the past year of like friends that I know who I'll see like I will have witnessed someone coming up to them. I saw the whole exchange and then they're the ones who make the Tik Toks the next day and will say what happened and I'm like I saw that with my own I literally was there that didn't happen at all. But at the end of the day like people you are going to find what you're looking for. So if you are going into any experience we've kind of touched on this earlier in the podcast but like if you're going into any experience with this idea of who this person's going to be or worse I think sometimes people we're really paras we're all very parasocial. you meet someone online, it's like like we had like oh my gosh, we're besties. You know, it's like we're so parasocial. So sometimes if you meet someone and like you have it built up in your head that like this person needs to be my absolute best and they're going to ask for my phone phone number and do this and like maybe that person was just a little bit quieter than you thought and they were still really kind and nice but it wasn't like this insane fireworks moment that you expected. Then they think you're evil. So like you can't control that. Even if you're as kind as possible, like there's always going to be someone who decides to take it the wrong way. >> I know. I know. And you just can't like you hear it all the time. Like, don't read the comments. Like, you can't care. You literally cannot care. Like, no. >> You It It hurts and it stings and you're like, gut punch every time you see something negative, but you actually cannot let it get to you because you're like, >> I know at the end of the day the truth. The people who I care about know the truth. They know me. So, like, whatever. You got to let it go. I literally saw there's this guy right now actually on TikTok who's going on this little like rampage because Michael made a Michael made a joke the other day. Um there was like a dumpster truck driving in front of him and the bumper sticker said like it was like a tiny little bumper sticker and it said like stay 300 ft away or whatever. And he literally made a video joke about how like if you're 300 feet away like you can't see that bumper sticker. >> Yeah. >> And this man who works for this trucking company Oh my god. Like beef beef. I It has taken everything in me to not just like go online and just be like I've had to delete a thousand comments because he was like Hardy's out here disrespecting blueco collar workers and then and then you see and then the comments start coming like then they it finds the right audience who just like want to be haters and then it's like I Hardy came into Cracker Barrel the other day >> and my he tipped me $10 with a party of 10 and blah blah blah. happened last Wednesday at the Cracker Barrel in Franklin. And I'm like, we were literally not in town last Wednesday at the Cracker Barrel. Like, what? I'm like, people literally will just say anything. And it's like, you have to just take a step back and be like, >> "No, we're good. We're good." >> People really do make things up all the time. >> No, it's actually insane. >> It is so insane. But if you are just a person who has no connection to anyone that has like some sort of platform, you would just assume like, why would these people make this up? But actually, it happens all the time. Like there are stories that are just completely made up where people are literally not even in town when they're saying all of this happened. Or they'll do like fake checks with like fake tips and that person's like, "I've literally never even been there." And they're like, "No tip, Kindle Jenner." What? >> Insane. >> It's crazy. It is so. >> And also, just so you know, like we know that people are going to be talking about our tips. So, it's like you have so well anyway. >> That's another thing I was going to say like people who know they're being watched tip double. >> We tip so well. like so many times when it's not deserved because we're like >> god forbid like god forbid someone takes a picture they're like they didn't tip me like oh my god no seriously the amount of tip money is like out of control >> it's crazy >> and I'm not even on Reddit I have made a vow to myself to never never do it >> oh my god >> like and I've seen I've seen the rabbit holes that people can go down like when they start looking themselves up on Reddit >> no people will be yeah it's so dark it is so dark you literally have to like Mel Robbins let them theory that's what it is >> no Like that's actually what it is. And it's so hard cuz like you can say that but like once you read it it's like it burns in your mind and you just like see it every time you close your eyes and you're like >> I think it's harder at least for me. I don't care as much if someone says something about me, but if they say something that like about someone that I care about. >> Oh 100%. >> Oh my god. Like I am ready to go. >> No. 100%. I am so protective of my family and my friends. Yeah. And that's like one thing to me where it's like okay you let the dogs out. Like I I don't care now. I don't care. Like I was being nice now. Like all bets are off. That is I so could I'm so similar in that way. >> No, it's something there's something in me that is like enra. It's like a beast has been awakened within. That's what it feels like. >> Oh, >> actually crazy. Should we play some dinner cards? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Just to end off the I know I have the dinner cards for you specifically. >> Wait, which Okay, dinner cards and then those are the night >> night cards. Yes. Okay. Number one. Do you believe in soul mates? >> Yeah, I do. I do believe in soul mates. I think that you can have multiple soul mates. >> I do because I think like there's so many different paths of your life that you could have taken and I feel like in each path you would have found some version of a soulmate. Agree. >> I think you almost like decide too at the end of the day like you just make a decision. I also I have this theory that I didn't create this theory. The way I said that was just like I have this theory that I invented. I have this theory that I subscribed to is what I meant. Um but it's like you have like good, better, best. And I think a lot of people only ever hit good because they're too afraid to be alone. So then you don't end up getting to like better or best. You know what I mean? So I think that a lot of people >> I think it's like you have so many different life paths that you could have taken to different people. And then I also think even on those paths it could have been multiple. That is so great. I could not agree with that more. >> For some reason, I'm really like we we've been having this conversation about settling non-stop cuz I think my greatest fear in my entire life is settling. >> Yeah. >> And I just I don't know. I'm at the age like I'm at 28 so I'm at the age where everyone's like seriously starting to date or like get married and stuff and it just gets a little scary, you know? Really scary. >> You like this is what I tell all of my f and like my sisters are single like they're dating and stuff. You're in such a good Well, here I am. I'm telling you. I'm like, you're in a good place for you. I have updates for you since my last our last dinner. Okay. How would you spend your dream day? >> Oh, okay. Dream day. I'm not much of a breakfast girl, but something about me. I love a hotel breakfast. So, like dream day. I'm waking up in like a beautiful hotel, honestly. Like, I love a hotel. Having hotel breakfast. Love that. Then there has to be some sort of activity. I'm a big activities girl. It's like some sort of fun game activity. We're doing like a I don't know, maybe we'll go for a little horseback ride like through I don't know some beautiful scenery. Then eating, eating, eating all day. Every meal, every morsel I put into my mouth has to be delicious. Like we're eating good food. Like that is the number one for a good day. Family, I'm with family. I'm with friends. We're just having fun, laughing, all the things. Weather is perfect. 75 degrees, no humidity. And um >> to be exact, >> quite literally. And I don't know, maybe it's like a fall football Sunday. Watch a little football game, play some more games, watch a movie, go outside. Yeah. I think it's just more about like the people that you're with. >> It's the food that you're eating, the people that you're with. >> Literally. Yeah. >> What is your absolute dream job if money didn't matter and your schedule didn't matter? More so, I would say. >> Okay. Okay. If if concepts could be anything and like if I wasn't trying to make a dime off of this concept, my dream job would to be to open a rehabilitative penning zoo animal rescue situation that then turns into a bar nightclub at night. Obsessed. There is a a huge audience for that. >> And it the party bus comes and picks you up at your house, drops you off at the location. >> That would be incredible. And you know what? >> That's my dream job. That actually might be what some of these nonprofits are missing. Seriously, because if you think about it, you're going to make a lot more money with some booze. >> Like fun and animals are my two favorite things in the entire world. And like if I could just mesh those together, that's literally my dream. >> That would actually You should look into that later. Okay, last question. If you could have coffee with one person dead or alive, who would it be? >> Oh my god, that's so hard. Okay. I would want to have coffee with one of my actually no specifically my great great grandmother. She is who came over from Italy and she has a crazy story and I would love to have coffee with her. >> That would be sick. >> Yeah, cuz like I honestly I don't care about like a lot of like famous people that have died. Like no one really like I'm I'm not like a die hard for anyone. Some historical figures would be pretty cool. But I think that that's more interesting because then it's like a connection to you. You know what I mean? >> Yeah, that would be so sick. Or like one of my like first relatives like way back when. You know what I mean? >> I want to go back like 2,000 years. >> Yes. Yes. I think that research. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be pretty cool. >> Okay. Well, this has been absolutely incredible. We've already been talking for an hour. >> Are we done? >> Yeah. We literally been talking for an hour. That went by so fast. Like actually so fast. >> If there's one thing I can do, it's talk. Same. I know. That's why we we get together and it's just so great. >> I like I seriously How many times did I just go off on a tangent and like wasn't even saying anything that made sense. >> It was actually perfect. No, before the podcast every time. I'm like, "Just so you know, it's very conversational. Tangents welcome." Because tangents lead to the best part of the conversation every time. So, you are our dream guest. It's perfect. >> I'm so excited that Thank you for having me. >> I adore you. I think you're the greatest person ever. I just love you so much. Tell us where they can find you. Oh, you guys can find me on Instagram, Callie Hardy. And I do have a Tik Tok. I don't know my handle. I think it's Callie Ryan 523. I don't know. It's Cali Ryan some honestly. >> Tik Tok star. >> That tells you how much I'm on Tik Tok. But >> so that's it. But I love you. >> Love you. This is so fun. And I had so much file.