What if everything you've been taught about success, healing, and reality is incomplete?
In this eye-opening episode of the Super Entrepreneurs Podcast, host Shahid Durrani is joined by Masati, founder of Xi Exponential Intelligence. Known for fusing ancient wisdom with quantum physics and energetic mastery, Masati guides high-level entrepreneurs and leaders to awaken their deepest potential by helping them remember who they truly are — beyond conditioning, trauma, and societal labels.
He dives into how gravity and consciousness intertwine, how subconscious identity blocks hold entrepreneurs back, and why many CEOs unknowingly build empires from pain. If you've ever felt like something deeper is calling you — this conversation is it.
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01:11 The Awakening Journey 02:53 Understanding Exponential Intelligence 04:04 The Science of Gravity and Human Potential 06:05 The Power of Presence and Connection 17:43 Understanding Linear Time and Identity 19:14 Healing Subconscious Blockages 20:57 The Importance of Childhood and Identity Formation 25:29 Mastering Energetic Frequency for Success 29:35 The True Value of Success and Overcoming Trauma 33:09 Personal Stories of Transformation 34:27 The Impact of Childhood Trauma on Success 35:38 Future Collaborations and Series 36:10 Rewriting Success Paradigms
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1. “I don’t heal people. I awaken them so they can remember who they are.” 2. “Success built from trauma will always come with a cost.” 3. “You don’t need better solutions — you need consciously evolved solutions.” 4. “Your inner frequency determines how your external world reflects back to you.” 5. “Let’s stop creating success from lack, sacrifice, and control.” ________________________________________ Social:
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I don't heal people.
I just awaken them so they can remember who they are.
Welcome back to super entrepreneurs podcast.
I'm your host Shahid Durrani.
Today I'm joined by someone truly extraordinary.
Masati.
He's the founder of XI exponential intelligence, a
transformation guide and someone who helps people shift out of
limitation into a life they cautiously design his work blends, ancient
wisdom, quantum science, and real world transformation.
So I would like to welcome Masati to our show.
Hey, thank you so much for having me.
It's an honor.
It's an honor, brother.
Thank you so much for making a time to come on our show.
You talk about, or you teach people how to live by their own design, right?
Was there a, a moment in your life when you realize that you were still living
by default that you had to make that shift?
Absolutely.
Yeah, it actually, it happened in my early teens, late teens,
actually late teens, early, early twenties.
And I just wanted to know the meaning of life, like a lot of, a lot of us.
When we're kids, we have this passion.
We have this possibility.
We feel limitless, but then somewhere along the line is what the hell happened.
You're supposed to do this.
They're supposed to do that.
You're supposed to, and then you morph in or you just close everything up.
And then I just wanted that feeling back that experience back.
I wanted it so bad that the universe goes, do you really want to know?
I go, yeah, I really want to know.
And that's so in my early twenties, I had my first near-death experience,
which has opened me back up to the original form of who we really are.
Yeah.
As kids, we're very joyful.
We feel limitless.
We have a lot of love in our heart.
We're very curious.
Absolutely.
We're discovering, we're helping, we're guiding, we're just playing.
It's just a different type of life and very similar to me and my transformations.
As soon as you start calming the mind and you start becoming more aware rather
than thought-based reality, you start realizing that joy starts showing up
again, internally first, but then on the outside too, the people that
are joyful start showing up.
Exactly.
So in a nutshell, that's basically what I do.
I help you remember who you were before society told you who you were.
Yes.
And I do it very differently through, it's becoming more and more a science,
exponential intelligence.
I call it exponential meta-science because I work on quantum computers and now I'm
like literally rewriting mass density and how gravity works and so on like that.
Cause there's a lot of holes in that, but the same, that same science that
helps those areas also help human potential and I've helped leaders,
literally leaders, top level CEOs, literally see life or that child like
self in their billion dollar corporations.
Cause why can't you have both?
Why can't you have both?
So can I ask you this question?
Why are you so serious on social media?
Your pictures, because your energy is very enthusiastic.
So is there a reason for why you're so serious in the socials?
No, it's just my bitch face.
Hell, I don't know.
That's hilarious.
Oh my God.
And also you mentioned gravity.
Now gravity is a force, right?
Invisible is there, but there's new research coming out.
There's some people that I've watched some content that they're looking
into the function of gratuity.
Could you give us an example or some kind of idea if you could simplify
gravity and how it impacts our results?
In what way?
Like life in business and life.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
That that's a, that's a really good start.
It's different than most of the questions I get, but yeah, I'd love to.
But first of all, about so the intensity of when people see me, I have six kids.
They're friends.
My, my kids, friends, they come over and say, damn, you're.
Your dad's really intense.
I think when you're such, when you're stuck in not stuck, but when you're in
present moment time, so greatly people feel the intensity of who you are.
Obviously, if you know me, I'm just probably the nicest guy, but, but what
with my abilities though, I can see through anybody and I think that's
what scares a lot of people because this guy knows all my weaknesses.
And I like Google, Google, or Facebook.
They, they take the track information and they give you an algorithm
because that's how AI works, right?
They check your algorithm and then they can spit out a same year, similar
identity of you and what your likes or dislikes are.
I basically do the same thing for people.
I start to see the underlying frequencies.
I don't have to call information from you like they do, but I just see it as.
This is what's going wrong.
Let's fix it.
Let's fix that programming.
And then this is where people massively transform their lives in a very short
time, because a lot of people really don't know what's wrong with them or
what, why their life is the way it is.
And I can snap it, just pick on it just like that.
And when, so when you mentioned present moment awareness, like being present
in the moment and just be more aware, I find that any human being that does
this work starts unlocking those type of gifts.
Can you speak about that?
Can I answer your gravity question first?
Yes, please.
I know.
Sorry.
So I actually am working on a white paper on say how gravity
and mass and all that work.
So in this situation, and it is attuned to how people create their
lives and render their lives.
Cause we're living in a, like I say, a fractal universe.
What happens up there happens down here.
And you can see that same pattern through nature.
So the way gravity works is if you can imagine Einstein's fabric of space
and time, they usually think it's just like a fabric, it's two planes.
It's not flat, but it literally is more of a lattice kind of like
how we see the matrix, right?
And then basically if you're creating density, like a human body or say a
planet, what will happen is that there's a spin, there's a consciousness that
start to say, spin the, the lattice of time and space or the fabric of time.
And as it spins, it gets bigger and it creates form and shape.
Does that make sense so far?
If you put like a fork in it and spaghetti and you spin it, it'll create say a mass.
And coincidentally, it'll actually create sphere.
No matter how much the spaghetti, it'll start to create a sphere.
Uh, again, it's because of efficiency.
So you're pulling in fabric of the fabric or the lattice of space and time.
And as you do that, it'll start to create, say a body of mass.
It'll create density.
I don't believe in the big bang.
I actually believe that consciousness or say a God or a higher self or somebody
outside of time and space or something and intelligence, I call it natural
intelligence, stepping outside of time and space and pulling that consciousness
and say warping the fabric or the lattice of space and time again, just like that
spin, and this is where gravity comes in.
So you're pulling, say the rug, somebody standing on a rug and you're pulling it
into you, you'll feel that gravity come in.
And this is what's happening constantly.
This is why the earth, any planetary system literally spins.
Again, to pull, create that spin.
We actually spin at a different level to again, create, say mass and density here.
If you see the universe, it has say a twirly effect.
That's the, that's what I'm talking about.
So that's how gravity is created.
And obviously it gets, it gets deeper into that, but it explains a lot of the holes.
In physics, ran it through AI on my systems compared to their conventional
theories on gravity, gravity, mass, where does mass come from?
Why does light curve?
No, my theory literally explaining all that.
So I do have a white paper coming out.
So beautiful.
Yeah, that's great.
So this sounds like it's very passion based from your end as well, right?
Yeah, it actually is because I wanted to know the answers, the truth and in
everything, because in today's society, who can you trust?
You know what I mean?
It was like, damn.
So it was like, why not have that inner trust, that internal dialogue, that
internal compass that goes, okay, that person I can trust, and it's not because
of what they're wearing or what their physical credentials are, but it's the
frequency behind certain people that I would never dream of doing harm to
somebody or unless it's necessary, but it's just the vibe that I have.
I don't have to have laws and rules and regulations and so on.
And that's how you can actually tell if society is actually realized or advanced.
You look at the laws, if you were an alien coming into this reality, I
wouldn't look at their technology because the technology is not that great.
It's wonderful.
But the technology that we have today kills, you can't use your cell phones
too much, blue light, radiation, all those things, that's not advanced technology.
If it's killing the user, then we need to amp up our science and go to a higher
level and go, ----, how does nature do it?
How does nature enhance our lives and improve ourselves and make it more
efficient?
So that's the level of, say, science that I'm actually trying to access.
Why can't computer screens, why are they dangerous?
Why do they emit blue light?
Why can't they emit a light that's actually nourishing for ourselves?
So changing that mindset, because we don't need better solutions.
We need consciously evolved solutions.
That's what XI is about.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
But for me, before my transformations, I was very similar to that.
When I was dealing with people, I was listening to what they were saying.
What is their background?
What are they wearing?
I know, what could they do for me?
That kind of mentality.
And now it's just, I'm just present with them and resonate with what you're
saying, because there's this sense of the person and now I'm trusting that
because I'm able to connect the dots in the past, whenever that feeling or that
special thought, it's like a trigger.
You can't even say a thought.
It's like a deeper sense of knowing something that I had throughout my life
that always saved me from bad things and then also helped me in good things.
And I started understanding that in my work that I was internally working on
every day, I started practicing and hearing that and seeing the results,
understanding the past and present.
And with that practice, with that listing, I feel like it's getting stronger in a
sense that it's starting to be more clear.
If I'm with someone, if I don't send something, I don't, I'm not rude
about it, but I'm, I just, I've just done.
It's like, it's not going anywhere.
Well, and you'll see in my show too, a lot of guests comes there's that level
where it's, it's not happening, but then there's energy where we work together.
We do projects there.
We do some collaborations together.
We do a partnership together.
We grow together because that energy loves to grow together.
Absolutely.
And that's how we grow strong communities.
And that's how we literally come together as say one, not because we're the same
sex and we're the same social income and we're not, and this is no, we're all
the individual bringing in our own, our own ingredients to, to make life zesty
and flavorful, it's not like a vanilla society.
And that's what a lot of governments, because it's more efficient.
If everybody was the same, it's more efficient processing the people.
And we came here in this reality to have fun and enjoy ourselves.
Yeah.
And that's what it's really all about.
Yeah.
So you're, if you don't mind me scanning you, you have that when you're, you, when
you're a younger child, you never lost that say essence that was kept into you.
Your mother allowed that to say flourish for you.
She never, she always kept nourishing that.
If that makes sense for you.
Well, I can nourishing what part, sorry?
You, your essence, your presence.
Most parents, unfortunately, they snuff that out because their
parents are insecure or whatever.
But your mother, yeah, your mother has a knowledge of understanding
or having a deeper connection.
Wow.
You just gave me goosebumps because there's a story I share, I shared before
in the past that she was, I bought on, it was a long time ago, but it
doesn't feel like a long time.
I honestly, it feels like a movie that we're living that it just feels like
these, these little memories of the past.
They're all feels like yesterday, but she was sitting in a truck.
I got an SUV and she was sitting there in the front with me back then.
She was able to climb now.
She's like 85.
It's really hard, but she was sitting there.
I go, so do you like it?
I just got it.
So do you like it?
He goes, of course.
I love this.
I, when you guys were kids, I always saw myself sit in big trucks.
Oh, so, so yeah.
So she had this always about it and she's very innocent.
So she didn't have the political stuff.
She's very innocent about everything.
She'll get upset and all that, but it was very, she's not conniving.
And that's what I grew up with.
And that's the kind of relationship I had is it's funny
that you pointed that out.
Yeah.
And so that, that presence literally is encoded.
So the science way is say that, you know, you work from your brain forward, and
this is where most people are from there, but brain forward, uh, what individuals
like us, you and I, and other people, they work from back here, if you want
to call it your spirit, I call it your timeless spell self forward.
And then that, this portion here where, you know, Tony Robbins or Joe Dispenza
or any of those great individuals, they've got great content going
forward from their brain that way, beautiful content, but what about
your foundation of who you are, your genetic structure, your generational
patterns, society's patterns that you just inherited right off the
bat that you think is you.
That's what XI is literally about is wait a second.
Let's look back at what you brought into from your parents'
generations, your grandparents and so on and so on.
Let's look at that and clean that up.
And then what you do with Tony Robbins and whoever works so much better.
Yeah.
Because I've got a lot of clients from them.
So that's why I talk.
Yeah, no, definitely makes sense.
Is the foundation work that is super important and understanding
who the self really is, because I always thought the self was my name
and my body and my background and my family name and my prides and my,
the cultures, all that stuff was defining.
But then when you do a lot of the internal work, when you meditate,
you start experiencing, there's this vast side of you that starts becoming.
The trueness of who you are.
And then you view everything else from that place.
You're witnessing it.
And my name, it means witness in Arabic means witness.
So I was, it's like, I've been guided from the beginning to be witnessing.
And now I spend majority of my time witnessing my thoughts, witnessing
my emotions, witnessing the reactions, witnessing the world is in that
witnessing status and it felt like I've always been guided step-by-step through
the turmoils that I went through to get here today, it feels like a design.
Yeah.
And that, and you're right.
And again, just scanning it.
So your, again, your basis is literally, or your purpose or your single
focus is again, shedding away who you're not because through, we just
wear wardrobes way before we morphed into say human, human consciousness
or wore the wardrobe of being human.
Who were we before then?
Cause we're timeless beings.
Every religion says that.
And we all know that very deep inside.
Even science, we know it's like, we know we're greater than our
potential that we have here.
Cause time here is linear at a spirit level or timeless level.
We have all potential.
So to create us here in physical form, well, we have to wear clothing or
wardrobes of identities of who we are.
But then those wardrobes get stuck on us again, from parents, grandparents,
nature doesn't do that.
Nature just goes, okay, that thing, that wardrobe that you wore last
lifetime, that doesn't look good on you.
Let's not wear that again.
And it pulls out the stuff.
That's not good.
Say heart disease, heart disease, for example, or illnesses or lack or any
way nature always, nature always goes, okay, what we did right this last
generation, what did we do wrong?
What, how can we improve?
And then the next generation forms in humans, because we have free will, we
pick say what we want to bring into say this physical form, each generation.
Let's just say humans haven't won.
They've lost their ability for free will because they chose
the wrong things basically.
So what I do is wait a second.
Let's go back to who you could have been at this moment in time.
If you would have picked properly and evolved properly.
So this isn't just about people making more money or people
just having better relationships.
It's about literally evolving human consciousness and literally solving
the deeper problems in the world.
Yeah.
And you guide people through these healing experiences.
Now that we're talking about healing.
And for me, I was really working hard on my internal world, doing
the work that I needed to do consistently to create that calmness
and just bring being more present.
I felt that there was something blocking me from a lot of the experiences that I
wanted to consciously experience.
And so I met this gentleman.
He helped me understand that there's subconscious images in from our
childhood that create these blockages and you need to heal them.
So what I started doing, I started going back to the little Shahid
that the memories I have.
Yes.
I started going there and I started sitting with him, hanging
out and talking something.
It's okay.
You don't have to protect anymore.
I think psychology calls the, what does it call it?
I don't know.
Forgot the term, but that's, I've started working on that and finding out what was
the blockages in my body and the pain I would feel go into the pain and I started
healing it, started replacing it.
And then I started feeling those changes.
I was doing in my mind from my past in my present.
And the more I did it, the more they were clearing out and that all the
clutter, all the clutter started clearing.
That's how I do it with my students now too, is I work on that part because I
feel that part is the missing ingredient.
So I want to ask you when you do the healing experiences, can you share?
What are some of the common blind spots that the high performing entrepreneurs
have when they, when you work on this healing?
Again, what I do and what you've done literally is go into say the sub
subconscious or super subconscious, but there's actually a supra subconscious
or you're where you start to create.
Think of it this way.
Okay.
Uh, what was the intelligence that created you before you were a single cell?
Or before your brain was formed.
So there was always, there was obviously an intelligence.
So that intelligence is from your genetics, generational, previous
lifetimes and societal patterns.
Those are the four ingredients that you pull from to create who you are before
you even have an identity of who you are.
And that's the base of your identity.
And then your brain kicks in and then it activates by the age seven.
So all that time, you're literally morphing into who you're going to be for
the rest of your life by the age.
And that's why childhood is so important, but let's go even deeper.
Where did you get that?
Where did you get who you were, the way you look and all that?
Where did you get all that stuff?
Your diseases that just comes with a family value, value systems and all that.
We need to delete all that.
Does that make sense for you?
I see my, I see something happening to you at 17 or 18.
I kind of shook your world.
I don't know if it was a surgery or a death or somebody else's death or
surgery that happened to you that woke you up and opened the veil of say the
other side or death to you.
And that's where say enlightenment came into you.
And this is your trajectory on, Oh, I need to remember who I am.
Again, I don't heal people.
I just awaken them so they can remember who they are.
I don't know if that makes sense to you.
Yes.
Of course.
But around 17 or 18, I think there was a death of a family member or
something that was very tragic.
Maybe your parents.
Yeah.
It was my grandfather that passed away when I was 17, that
I was really close to him.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah.
I was really close with him.
And yeah.
So that affects you.
And again, I don't, this is the first time I met you and all that.
Yeah.
I read if you want to call it your scrolls, but literally your genetic patterns.
I don't have to know your birthday.
I don't know.
I have to, I don't have to know what you look like that deeper
layer that say impacts us so deeply.
So for example, you, your grandfather passed away at 17, 18.
You're close to him.
So he, and I'm writing a paper on death as well, but I'm literally
rewriting the science of everything here.
Shade, but your grandfather passes away.
It creates, it opens up, say that light or basically that
spinning that happens, right?
You unspin and then you morph into say nothingness, but there's
still a consciousness there.
So that's how that works.
But when it say unspins, it opens a vortex in this physical reality.
That's of the other side of the say consciousness level one.
Okay.
This is consciousness level zero where density occurs.
Consciousness level one is a death space or an awakening space.
If you're awake, if you're living and then as a young child, trying to figure
out as a gosh, I really want to keep that presence alive, you got pulled
into say that consciousness of your father's death, and then you floated
back down, your grandfather ascended to the other side, but that identity or
that moment, it could have lasted maybe a second or two, but that moment is a
lifetime because there is no time and space there, that's why you have
experiences that feel like, oh, this happened to me so long ago, but it
feels just like yesterday, you have a lot of moments like that because you
swim up to that, say higher consciousness and then come back down.
And just a moment there again, feels like a lifetime because there's no time.
Yeah.
There's no space.
This information is super.
That's why I say that everyone is super.
We have these, we just have to work on a deeper level, expanding our
consciousness and viewing everything, all the contents of viewing everything
from that place, and that's when you start realizing the power and the
gifts and the love that we have for being here, it's very special for us to be here.
So when it comes to mastering your energetic frequency, can you share
how it directly impacts the results, growing your business, attracting
opportunities, even wealth creation?
Oh, absolutely.
Let's just give an example of how most people do it.
And then that way we can see the problem.
Good idea.
So what most people do and what most people think, and that's from like
generational patterns in this reality, you know, what the ingredients that
people create themselves is basically lack, sacrifice and control.
They put those ingredients into everything.
So what most people do to say, create a business is they sacrifice
everything that they have, they sacrifice.
So basically it's like they sacrifice their time, their life, their loved
ones, their essence of who they are.
This is where selling yourself, a lot of CEOs that I work with.
So they sit up at night and go, ----, I, uh, I sacrificed way too much for my
success and the value of what they've created, like falters.
And this is where extreme examples are people who reach fortune and
fame, and then they commit suicide.
Like Robin Williams and all those people.
Yes.
If it was like, so obviously there's something wrong with that, that say
that model, because it's like, why are so many people depressed?
Why are you still, if you're wealthy, why are you still aging like everybody else?
There's no difference.
You just might go through life with a different vehicle, but
you still have the same problems.
And so again, because of those three ingredients, no matter what you're
doing, you have to get rid of those ingredients that people use to create
say success mechanisms or a dynasty or a legacy in this case, you remove that.
And you sacrifice or you let go of say your old self of who you are.
Basically you start to peel away or you start to remember who you really
are, an infinite being, a complete being.
And then your, your value of who you think you are is not based
on external say identities.
You, your value is based on your connection to a higher source
or the original form of who you are.
And then when that source comes into physical form in an awakened state,
it'll create abundance around itself to reflect who it is.
Does that make sense too?
So that's really key.
And that's, you can do that.
People do that.
So again, your value, your internal value, your essence rises.
Therefore the reflection is your environment and it could be a castle.
It could be a mansion.
It could be beautiful cars or whatever you want.
But it's so in this case, it, your wealth and your abundance and the
success that you have actually is a reflection of who you are and it feels
good and the more you shine your reflection or the more you work, basically
the more you get shinier because you're producing from a higher state of being.
And it's effortless flow.
Literally.
I work with CEOs who are really close to their deathbed and
literally a high level CEO, the biggest manufacturer of its kind in the world.
Literally he had eight months to live.
He worked with me for a bit and I was like, ----, I understand now.
And he still makes a hell of a lot of money and, but his employees are happier.
His family's happier.
He's younger.
He's 15 years younger than at his age.
So that's what I'm talking about.
Are you creating a real value or are you just creating a shell of who you are?
I was trying to go and look, I have all these cars and I have all this money.
I feel like crap inside.
It's a facade and people like that all the time.
Yeah.
All the time.
And maybe you say, okay, maybe I need more money.
That's going to, right?
So they go after more, but the issue is until we find out who that trueness is,
who we are, that unevenness will always be there.
Yeah.
If you're looking just some tips, solid tips for people,
ask you, ask yourself what, what is say the cause of your success.
And look at that because most people, they want to run away from something
like say Silicon Valley was based on no offense, nerds who was basically picked
on literally I'll show the world I'm going to get successful and show people
who they are or people who go, God, I hate my parents were born poor.
We didn't have anything to do or have.
Therefore I'm going to be rich.
So if it's like this, and this is the problem with most people, I don't like
this, so I'm going to escape into this.
And it's a simple example shade.
Think of it.
So what, and this is just mathematical because everything's
just mathematics and physics.
So basically your higher self goes, Oh, okay.
For every say one X, whatever X is for every X of say pain and suffering that
you want to move away from, say you get safe for every two X that, you know,
of suffering that you have poverty that you have of abuse that you have here.
You have created say one X of say abundance or success.
Does that make sense?
That equation.
So basically it's a ----.
I want to go five X or 10 X.
If you want to go 10 X.
Like Greg Cardone, if he wants to go 10 X or whatever, he says 10 X.
So, yeah.
Okay.
So what Grant does, for example, in this case is like he has to create 20 X of
suffering to propel him to again, expand to that level.
So, cause you equated suffering to your success, suffering to success.
And Tony Robbins teaches.
And again, no offense against those guys, but I'm just, I'm just telling
him as, Hey, you can do it another way.
You, you, since your identity, cause we're all, it's all reference points
of who you are, cause that's what this reality is about reference points.
Everything is a reference point.
So just think of it.
So the more you're, the more of this you want is the more suffering that you have.
So personal level, cause again, suffering is attached to success in this reality.
It's attached to sacrifice.
And then what do people, they, they can't, they feel less, they feel lack.
So they have to control their reality more.
And this is where people turn into their multimillionaires or billionaires,
trillionaires now, because there's no value, real value.
So they have to have a trillionaire trillion dollars to look at, go, God,
I'm important because billionaires is enough.
It's just not enough.
But anyway, you remove that.
And this is where in today's society, real value is coming.
So ask yourself, what is a, the, the gasoline, the accelerator of your success.
If you're a high level CEO, you need to get rid of it.
You need to change that.
In fact, I work with some Navy SEALs now.
The reason why they turned into Navy SEALs is because they had so much childhood
trauma that they thought being strong, like a Navy SEAL would heal it.
But then the problem nowadays with Navy SEALs, again, excellent training,
but why do those men come out broken?
It didn't help them.
It didn't resolve it.
Just, it basically destroyed them as ----.
I have nowhere to go.
I thought that was going to be the key for me.
And it wasn't.
As a kid, I would get bullied a lot.
So as I got older, I started watching a lot of action movies and that kind of
stuff, I was shifting my paradigm without even knowing.
And then as I was in my twenties, I became very violent.
I started fighting back to not twenties, actually earlier.
It was like probably last year of high school.
But I started, I said, this is enough after getting pushed in a locker.
I was like, this is, I'm a big guy.
I'm six, four back then, probably six, three.
But I said, I should, I need to do something.
I can't let them, I can't just operate by kindness.
I have to shift.
And that was a stock.
I started watching movies, not knowing I'm shifting something and started consuming.
I started visualizing myself fighting all that kind of stuff.
I was getting what exactly what I wanted.
So in that situation, I felt that I needed that to be successful.
I needed to beat people up, fight bigger groups.
I'll go against 10 people if it wasn't five people and prove that I'm brave,
prove that I can't be bullied anymore.
Then I started getting into business.
Okay.
I need to have business because the action movies were showing success.
So I was, I was going into the, I was doing everything based on that reference
point of, of that pain.
Yeah.
And yeah, and the underlying, and again, this is for you, that underlying
frequency of like emptiness or holiness is started for you around 10, 11, 12.
And then by the age, 13, 14, this is where it started to manifest.
So you being extra kind in today's society, the definition of kind
or nice is literally, I have no identity of myself and people can just come in
and put their emotional dirty shoes in my house, in my, in my body.
And at 13, 14, I think you basically go, I'm sick of this.
And that's where you started to go.
No, I don't want all those people's garbage in my presence, in my essence.
That makes sense to empathic people, what they do.
Yeah.
And again, that's where a lot of confusion too, right?
Oh, of course.
Cause you have whoever, again, at that age, you just basically morph into whoever,
you know, you're around because they're cool and you think that you're not.
And then it's ----.
No.
Yeah.
So what you do is you kept pushing people or people's frequencies
are programming out of you.
That makes sense for you.
No, this is great.
Yeah, man.
We could talk about this for hours.
I'd love to have you on the show again.
We can even probably, yeah, we could even find maybe a section to focus
on where it can help entrepreneurs.
And we could talk about that, some portion of what you do
in your world for executives.
Uh, we can do a series.
I would love to talk about this stuff, this stuff.
And we can't, there's never, I'm pretty sure you're the same way.
Like you could talk about this for days, right?
I'll just do it.
Yeah, I did.
A series would be good because then you can get into say the nuances of like
success or again, you know what, say a Tony Robbins or Joe Dispenza teaches
to not, not go, Hey, this is better than that, but it's combined.
You can accelerate so much faster.
So definitely any, any series that are out there, I'm actually
rewriting the book, Thinking Grow Rich.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
From my point of view, from exponential point of view.
And what I'll do is I'll send you the first, my first draft.
Please before and after.
And you go, Holy ----.
This is the pieces that we're missing in.
Yeah.
I believe that was read about success.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I love to get a copy.
That's great.
Masati.
It was an honor having you on the show.
It was a great talk.
I appreciate you and your time and what you're doing for people.
There's something much deeper.
There's a calling behind it.
There's something that you are meant to do for human beings and
societies and cultures and the world.
So I'm grateful to have you in my presence.
I know you in my network now, and you're part of this family.
So I want to grow with you.
I want to work with you.
I want to do whatever I can to help you amplify what you do as well.
So as well, thank you.
Thank you.
It's a new generation coming up and I think we're the pioneers.
I go on, Hey, this is how the world could really be.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
I'm looking forward to that.
Thank you, my friend.