Golden State Warriors Draft Preview and Discussing Team Offseason Plans w/SF Chronicle's Sam Gordon

uh we're about to get into the meat of the NBA off season the or if you're vegan I guess the veggies the nitty-gritty there is a lot going on with the Golden State Warriors Kenny Atkinson left we barely touched on that yesterday there's free agency that's about to show up there's even a draft I haven't been hitting that that hard simply because the Warriors don't have a first round pick they got one second rounder number 52 but I have an awesome guest joining me next to cover all that he's a beat reporter that means he travels with the team he's in the locker room he's at every presser pretty much for the most part and he's a he's a phenomenal writer and media personality Sam Gordon of the San Francisco Chronicle joins me next let's get into it it's the Golden Days baby that is it for us today and we will leave you with a I can't do it we'll do it live fck it do it live I can I'll write it and we'll do it live thing suck let's go in a minute I'm a need a Sentimental man or woman to PP me up come on and break me again shake that oh yeah it's the club and B in the house thank you for joining the golden days I'm your host Cyrus saas and I've got a partner in crime with me on tonight's show he's a beat reporter he writes for the San Francisco Chronicle the dude has intellect to go with everything else which you don't see all that often in the sports media game and I respect that tremendously Sam Gordon you can follow him on Twitter at by Sam Gordon it's his name with the word by in front it's Sam great to see you brother before we get into it how the hell are you doing man I'm doing well Cyrus gearing up for a big week uh this is always a fun time uh in the NBA calendar right we got draft we got free agency coming up leads right into uh summer league and of course uh USA Basketball international basketball FEA coming up on top of that so there no shortage of basketball this summer at all gets going this week absolutely man and and we're finally getting to it like this has been the longest just kind of uh I don't know how you would label this this no man's land no woman's land not being gender specific here in terms of just waiting between the Warriors end of the season and the start of the actual action which is the off season and that's just around the corner we just got some news uh a day ago with Kavon Looney uh the Warriors again we've been talking about this for about a week and a half on this show I was telling folks it would shock me if cavon Looney didn't come back just because the numbers didn't add up in terms of a benefit for cutting him he's not that expensive and 3 million guaranteed meant You' be saving five million that's not enough to cut Kavon Looney so he stays he he got offered a guaranteed deal uh before we get into it uh what do I hear from Mike dyy Jr he had a presser Monday were you at that by the way Sam yep I was there awesome so so I don't know if we're gonna hear your voice uh I I have two clips queued up um and the first one is about Mike dby Jr's strategy his ethos his philosophy in terms of building a team and it may or may not people happy hearing this some people want the team to be super active with free agency being aggressive with trades but what Mike Dunley Mike Dunley Jr said uh at yesterday's press conference is that he believes in what has worked for the Golden State Warriors and that's internal development let's hear what the GM of the Golden State Warriors Mike dun Ley Jr had to say about the current and future Golden State Warriors this time of year is fun um you got free agency you got trades you got draft all the ways to improve your team uh Beyond uh what I think is the most important which is internally Player Development and that stuff so uh we're looking at things um I think um it's a little bit different this year not having a first round pick we've got 52 in the second round which uh I think hopefully we'll be able to find a quality player a quality addition to the franchise but um you know I think in in that regard all things will be on the table we'll explore options and just like we do every year kind of make the right decision and uh en roll with it so I'll open up to questions I'm sure there's um quite a few things to cover but let's let's get through it considering I guess you know your guys situation what free agcy has become in the league no first you said like is trade your best Avenue to really change you know again I'm of the belief internal development is I'm always I'm a big Player Development guy I think our younger players have a a really big chance to grow and get better pods J K Trace Moses and then even our our guys we've had here for a while can get better I think that's got to be the main thing and then from there you you look to see what else is out there and can you make a move or a couple moves or do some stuff that enhances your team but um if that's what's like the one thing we're hinging everything on like I just it's so hard to make a trade now in the NBA I think we got a lot of teams that are really smart they know what they're doing uh to make a good quality trade that benefits both sides which is every what every body is's looking for is tough and so we'll explore that stuff a lot of conversations going on but I don't want to like get ahead of it and just say like there's just going to be some big move that we're gonna do and and all that could be if it was there great but it's not like uh something that must happen first of all I don't buy the propaganda that trades are that difficult I I think that's a line I'm not buying it but uh Sam your reaction to I I do I do agree with the overall sentiment that you build from within whether it's drafting whether it's being organic and developing players yourself that's how the dynasty came to be in the first place I can't argue against that did not TR the trading being difficult thing that's some propaganda in my opinion but Sam your reaction to Mike Dy Jr's comments and the overall press conference which you were there for yeah uh I mean that was definitely a theme of the press conference I think was just the reinforcing the belief and the value uh that he feels like this young quartet has and that he's not you know yet can can is there mechanisms and avenues to make a trade yeah I of course there's definitely mechanisms and avenues to make a trade but they're just not they're not going to make a trade just for the sake of of making a trade it's got to make sense uh especially if you're parting ways I think at Le at least this is my read on it especially if the Warriors are gonna part ways uh with Jonathan kaminga with Brandon psky with Moses Moody with Trace Jackson Davis those guys all played at various junctures key roles this past season I think we saw Improvement throughout the course of the season from from all four players uh Jonathan kaminga showing he can get to the basket he can finish his bag developing a little bit right and there's there's I think a lot more untapped potential there as his feel for the game as his fuel for five on five on both ends of the floor uh continues to improve remember he's 21 right with Brandon psky uh you saw the the way he he was a connector on the offensive side of the ball he led the team of course in plus minus if if you you know value those kinds of Statistics well it matters over a year right would you agree with me like like a sample size of a whole season to me carries some weight like net rating for an individual game is totally subjective and I start to interrupt you but I just wanted to add that I mean yeah throughout the course of the whole season I mean again you saw the way he was able to connect you know on offense and there's room for improvement there as well I think both offensively and defensively we we saw what Trace Jackson Davis uh the the the Polish that he had uh in some ways and then the way he was able to develop in other ways uh towards the end of the season the impact he had defensively and then Moses Moody uh taking on a different role at different times throughout the course of the Season you see you you see potential there as a as a three and D kind of player uh as he continues to develop as well so again given that their young players or there's going to be an affordability there uh you would think with their contracts you're not just gonna make a trade for making it you for the sake of making a trade the trade has to be done with intent of of contending with you know increasing your status as a Championship uh Contender and we'll see what the trade market looks like if those kinds of Trades are out there I mean speak of the trade uh you just saw multiple reports W and Shams reporting that Mel Bridges went for four first round picks right like that's the kind of Market uh that's what the trade market might be shaping up if you want well don't forget the most important the most important piece Bohan bonovich I mean without that I me I'm cheesing yeah goad yeah the four four first round picks is huge start you know is that going to set what the trade market is going to be looking like moving for I I don't know could it yeah definitely he's there's a lot of advantages to having Mel Bridges on your team he's in his prime he's on a team friendly contract not every player that might be traded you know those those the situations are all the same but that could be a market setting uh kind of deal and in order to get a real impact player what would the Warriors have to put on the table so that was I think my overall takeaway and then just you know where they're at salary-wise cap wise that is a vehicle for for improvement you know Player Development as you mentioned that's how the dynasty started so there's value there with the young players no doubt about it and and look I don't know how I know you you you gave a little Peak uh into how you really feel about these youngsters right there I I have not been shy about kaminga I love the kid I want his leash taken off I want a whole season of him getting 30 plus minutes a game I love the four youngsters period I I think the Warriors have something there you obviously have to still put pieces to support Steph he is he is The Golden Child in all this man he is the Superstar of the meast star potentially going on Mount Rushmore you got an asset like Draymond Green and a couple other veterans but I love these youngsters and when we're talking about trades um who knows what duny was was like like you know subliminally maybe like hinting at I don't know if he was talking about the youngsters he could have been referring to maybe Chris Paul because that would be a lot more trickier uh when you're talking about a trade uh trading Chris Paul I mean I don't know what you can get back for him I don't know if it's even worth going down that Avenue I personally think that they're just going to let that that contract expire and just let them walk um what are your thoughts on the Chris Paul situation we're just days away from finding out unless they extend the deadline I I'm not even expecting that but what what are your thoughts on that man at least what do you think is going to happen yeah I mean and maybe they do push out if they maybe they do push out the deadline if they're searching for a trade Chris Paul's you know salary guarantee U might be if you guarantee that 30 million that might be a useful vehicle in facilitating a kind of trade right but again I I I wouldn't expect that they're going to get a marquee player or a needo moving player a kind of player that's going to put them back into you know back into contention in the western conference right seeing how far um they were this season uh unless you're willing to put you know somebody like Jonathan Kingo on the table and is is that something they willing to do at least at this juncture um it doesn't seem like it so again you know who knows what can materialize in the next couple weeks who might be available but where things stand right now um in terms of Chris Paul it feels like yeah that's that waving him of course makes a ton of sense with what you'd be able to say yeah it's a lot of money and it gives them a chance to for the first time in years get below that luxury tax threshold it gives them those mid-level exceptions they're also eligible when I say exceptions I say plural because um we had Eric Pinkus on the show yesterday talking in nuanced detail uh about the salary cap an incredibly complicated document that's organic um but we talked about the fact that the Warriors are eligible not just for the the the standard mid level close to $13 million you can get some Talent with that kind of cash but then you're also eligible for the by anual mid-level exception which is close to five million and that's what you get by not resigning Chris Paul I I think it's a no-brainer to go down that Avenue your thoughts on that yeah I mean like you said you can add you know a couple impact players right 12.9 million um that's enough to get a real impact player in free agency a 25 minute a game kind of guy um we know where the Warriors need help we know where their their liabilities were as a team last season you need more perimeter defense point of attack defense that you could use a little bit more size and uh more shooting more more more more more floor spacing and and some shot creation too if you can get it now big picture in order to get the kind of shot Creator um that going to make a real you know Big Time impact that's going to take you up a notch that would I think have to come from trade again with some of the internal development I think Jonathan kaminga has potential to to be a like a 20 plus Point per game scorer um down the road how how quickly can he develop what what kind of player can he be um this year that being said role players are super important um and you can get I think a couple high level role players uh to fit in slots with with those contracts for sure same man and we're going to get into the last week I covered um every potentially available free agent in the Eastern Conference Su tomorrow I'm going to resume that with the West there are some names out there man and and and what the Klay Thompson pieces obviously gonna is what's holding up what's going to happen you know for for the whole offseason just because the amount of money he he will pull in if he stays will really limit options in terms of the mid- level I don't know if the Warriors will spend much if they keep clay which is one of many wrinkles uh down that Avenue um before we uh uh I want to talk about the Kenny ainson thing because he left left but real fast just because there isn't much to talk about with this unless you think differently and and if you do clarify and correct me please but Clay Thompson I right now I feel like it's a 50-50 shot what we've heard out there and again I don't trust pretty much anything I'm hearing but but going off what is being written and said um you know the Orlando Magic are interested but they don't want to give a long-term deal but they still might give a two-year deal with a lot of money in those two years um Philadelphia might be interested I'm not really hearing many other names besides those two what are you thinking what are you hearing about Klay Thompson again from my perspective 50/50 he could St he could go um there's clearly some acrimony going on there with the negotiations take it away sir well if the Warriors I mean if it was priority number one I think for the Warriors to bring him back that would have happened by now right they've had the opportunity to negotiate with him since the NBA Finals wrapped up um and we would have heard about a deal by now right if that that would have happened it it hasn't so that kind of shows you that they're where their priorities stand that being said um I do think there's going to be a market for clay I think the Warriors are going to see what that market looks like I think clay and his representation are going to see what that market looks like and then you know conversations might start from there but but yeah I'm with you 5050 I don't know if he knows I don't I don't know if the Warriors know there's a lot of variables at play and I think one of them is what that market looks like what can he command um at this stage of his career right we know um still an incredible shooter right 268 threes fourth in the NBA he was 40 I think 40% his last 40 or 41% his his last I think 28 games uh he he was able to find his form and we also know that he's not the player that he once was you know four or five years ago and that's understandable given where he's at at the stage of his career so uh there will be a market but if he comes back to Golden State it's going to be you know presumably in a different role and and who knows what he wants at this point after how the negotiations have or haven't gone with golden state totally and in the chat a lot of people talking about this uh K Bridges trade from the Nets the Knicks obviously that's an earth Shaker we'll try to get to that toward the end of the show if we have time but um just because I I would like to see all the facts come through right now it's literally just what wo's dropped and and there's going to be a lot more coming through it huge trade uh if we have time we'll get to that at the end but just not a lot of facts yet um and and I would like to get a little more information on that before because because somebody in the chat for example uh if this is the Brandon Cadiz I know who host strength the numbers for example he writes the Knicks are now hard hard capped after the trade if if my information is correct the hard cap is the the first apron which I believe is 178 179 million what that means is they can't no matter what for no matter what they cannot go a penny above that that amount the hard cap sucks the Warriors rented back in 2020 um anything you want to add to that Sam before I change subjects here uh no I mean I'm not I I don't we'll see what happens right there are going to be some residual effects of this trade it's a huge trade throughout the but but I want to I want to wait and kind of see what they are before I weigh in absolutely because I don't even know for sure if it is hard cap I got to do my own research but there's a lot of things that could trigger a hard cap like uh sure there's so many little things like like when you for example using the mid-level exception and then adding money on top of that to sign a player hard caps you uh signning trades hard cap you there's so many weird little things I I don't know what's going on there um we'll do some more research in a little bit and Brandon what is up with you Nick what's up with you because people are talking about the the fallback from that trade potentially being Isaiah hardenstein if I said his name correctly uh being being an asset that the Warriors could pursue if he's affordable and available for midlevel exception he's gon he's gonna he's gonna have a market for sure absolutely Market absolutely and see this is and these are the kind of questions again I got to do research like no cap in the chat great to see you by the way been a while writes what happens to OG an anobi now um and that's where bird rights get trumped by the hard cap if I if I if my facts are correct so that means that the Knicks can only offer ogn and Obi um up to the hard cap amount again there's so much to come down I don't know what there's it's too early to answer questions like that but um we'll talk about that in so much more a little bit uh Kenny ainson I folks who watch this show are very understanding of how I feel about Kenny the last two years uh you know he became the defensive coordinator and the results in in my opinion were not satisfactory man the results were not in line with championship expectations um you know Kenny ainson hired as the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers I love it because it forces Steve Kerr to bring some fresh blood in maybe someone who actually is a defensive expert um I'm sure you're going to write about this for the San Francisco Chronicle soon but Monty P our media colleague who writes uh for NBC Sports Bay Area he dropped six names uh and I just want to list those names real fast Sam and and get your thoughts on them these are six names who could step in and replace Kenny Atkinson who took over for Mike Brown and again Hu hole there ever since my ground left you know you it's obvious all the results show uh so the six names that Monty P listed as potential Replacements on the coaching staff as the number one assistant JB bicker staff who was most recently the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers James bgo uh who a lot of people thought was GNA be the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers before Kenny Atkinson I think surprised a lot of people be getting that job longtime assistant Chris DeMarco um who was around during the Mark Jackson era uh Becky Hammond um interesting name uh Terry stots a longtime Portland Trailblazers head coach and then Frank vogle um one one name that I didn't see here mentioned uh who's out there as well Alvin Gentry could be a possibility I don't know if he's maybe too old this point um your thoughts anyone else you want to throw in there and what are your thoughts on the the current openings I think there's two openings actually uh on the assistant coaching staff yeah um I I think again shout shout outman that's a that's a great list uh I think again you kind of look at what Steve Kerr brought in when he brought when he brought in Kenny ainson former head coach veteran experienced had a voice um and I you would think that he'd want want to hire somebody similar I think you go to Frank vogle um know his defensive track record has a championship as a head coach um would might that be a spot that that makes sense for him right um if you're talking about defense we know he can coach defense um so yeah I I I think all those names um bring a lot to the table and and have their various strengths and um would expect again ker to go with somebody that's that's experienced that's that's been around the game for a long time and um that has different perspective maybe one that's different from from his own for sure any names that you feel like uh that you've thought of uh that was that wasn't included in his article another name before you answer that maybe I'm buying you a few more seconds just in case I give you a shitty question I apologize um but another name that's out there and this is from look and Sam I don't know if you get a laugh out of there's a lot of individuals out there who their entire livelihood is based on throwing the word sources out and then just throwing a lot of nuggets that may have zero uh validity behind it um and one of those reports and this is the time of year where they're really thriving one of those reports said that Brent Barry is reportedly leaving um as uh the GM of the San Antonio Spurs g-league team and that he's leaving the Spurs Al together uh I I'm a huge fan of Brent Barry he the idea of Brent was not my Genesis this was actually Bob Meyers Pursuit him some years back for the job that Mike D Junior eventually got it but when I but when I heard that story my immedi immediate thought was that's someone who who's a very sharp mind when it comes to basketball the progy is there um his path is very similar to Steve Kerr's except way less championships and obviously it's not exact but my point is if Brent Barry's out there that's another name um and I again I don't know if that that story is true or not Rick Barry and I are going to be doing a show tomorrow uh so and I'll that's his dad I'm obviously going to bring it up with Rick um but your thoughts on that story and any other names that we may have missed uh for the assistant jobs uh I think I think Brent that that's interesting I hadn't seen that or or seen that attachment but again you you I think you you touched on the reasons why um why it would make sense and again you know the connection with with Rick Barry um uh I see somebody in the chat Adrien Griffin would be a good assistant I mean he was a he was a good assistant in Toronto for sure and I mean look at how Milwaukee performed with Adrien Griffin compared to without Adrien Griffin right I mean I don't know the specifics of that situation uh but it it seems like that might have been you know an impulsive decision there we'll see what the the Bucs look like down the road but I think he's a super interesting name and somebody that that would have pedigree in that spot as well so that that's a great suggestion absolutely man I I I agree um so yeah so we'll see what happens with the assistant jobs again Steve Kerr right now has his hands full with Team USA are you pumped about that by the way I'm like I haven't been this excited for Olympic basketball in a long ass time what are your feelings about that I think it's going to be super competitive this year um I'm I'm really excited I'm going down to Vegas um next week I'm going to be covering Team USA training camp um as a lead into summer league so we we we know how talented the USA's roster is um it's it's going to be interesting to see what style they choose to play play um how you blend that collection of talent so many guys used to being um the Top Dog on their respective teams what does that that group look like um and then around the world look at how much basketball look at how Global it's become how much um how much some of these other teams have improved I saw Canada's roster uh training camp roster came out Andrew Wiggins a part of that um yes what's interesting to me is is is just kind of the the the the roster construction um it kind of natur there there seems to a hierarchy or just a structure in place Shay gilis Alexander um runner up for MVP Jamal Murray your two scores you have Wing Defenders like Dylan Brooks uh and Andrew Wiggins who can play and then you have bigs Kelly o Lin white you can play different styles and uh there's some continuity in that program Serbia should be good uh if jic is a part of that team Slovenia there's France there's all these teams that are are Rock Solid so I'm I'm really excited as strong as the USA's collection of talent is um I'm expecting a really competitive tournament absolutely abolutely the the the the team Canada lineup alone is insane that is it's absolutely insane um yeah the competition is stiff there's no doubt I feel like team USA's roster Rivals the Dream Team in terms of talent cash let me ask you this man if if Team USA doesn't win how much heat do you think Steve Kerr gets I mean I think the expectation for Team USA every every timeout is to win gold right yes yeah so you know I mean that's that's the standard that's that's the expectation and that's the challenge and that's what he's facing and and um so yeah that's I mean he knows that he knows what he signed up for and what the standards are so yes yeah he it is weird that the that he has legitimate pressure on him I think to to win I don't think that's the case with every Olympics but he does and and I'm very I'm super intrigued again I'm I'm really excited to watch this congrats on going to Vegas by the way man I hope that we touch base at some point before after that uh again I love your content dude I read your your stories every time you come on the show I love your energy so I'm a fan brother I'm a fan um I'm looking forward to that uh real fast in the chat someone wrote uh this is the pull of basketball podcast hello saying um that for it look if you ever want to reach out to me and this goes for anyone uh just email me uh the email address is Warriors [email protected] business inquiries uh guest appearances you name it just shoot me an email and we'll make it happen um and then there's one other thing in the chat I wanted to touch on real fast oh here uh Nick do I try to pronounce that last name chazza pentelis please forgive me if I messed that up writes could you touch on Stephen Curry's contract extension news uh you're right not many people talk about it my understanding I don't know if you know if you're have much information on this Sam but my understanding is he's eligible for a one-year contract extension at the absolute max amount um and and wouldn't surprise me if the Warriors gave it to him but the one weird thing about Stephen Curry in contract extensions is the last time he got his extension which was a max deal for a brief moment he was the highest paid player in the NBA but Joe lob and I read this column recently I forgot who wrote it but Joe lob supposedly Prides himself on contract negotiations um not surprising to hear that and with the Stephen Curry thing he he initially did not offer that fifth year and he quickly changed his mind and offered the fifth year probably to avoid the negative feedback that would come on him if for whatever reason Stephen Curry made an issue of it but the point is I have no idea if they're going to give him that contract extension I have no idea if Steph wants it do you know anything about that I just wanted to touch on that real fast since it was asked in the chat and obviously no yeah I mean EXT extension eligible but don't know where where negotiations stand not sure where where things stand with that yet um as of right now what we do know is that Steph Curry Steve Curry Draymond Green contracts um line up together so that's that's where things stand right now we'll see what happens in how those negotiations progress if they progress in the coming weeks absolutely man and we got Sam Gordon here if you're listening on the podcast you can follow him on Twitter at by Sam Gordon Sam there is a lot of chatter I I have yet to see any of it rooted in reality what I mean by that is I haven't seen an actual uh substantive report indicating that there is any form of truth behind this but it's a sexy topic it's big name and I'm talking about Paul George quite a few people and they're all pundits and they're just throwing it out there in the same way that I've been throwing Yannis to the Warriors out there for about a month now I still want that energy out there I have no idea why Giannis uh thinks things are going to magically turn around in Milwaukee Giannis it's over the Warriors will sign your your your little brother and they could actually give him more than the veteran minimum so we can steal him away from Milwaukee Giannis come right after please but again it's the same vein in this cas it's it's a a hypothetical trade Paul George going to the Golden State Warriors I don't think this is going to happen when Mike dingy Jr said trades are hard that's an example of a trade being hard you would the the matching up the the numbers uh Paul George who knows if he wants to stay with the Warriors Beyond next season which is important um so I don't think there's this is rooted in reality but everyone's talking about it I'm bringing it up Sam your thoughts on a potential Paul George for the Warriors trade um it's it's interesting to think about right and and to talk about I mean you you I guess as it pertains to Paul George in general and I'm not you know the first person to make this point we've seen this as a kind of a talking point nationally as well but a real Domino he has a lot of Leverage here in his situation with the Clippers being that he can opt in or opt out and you know can essentially tell them look if we we could let's work something out here or else you're gonna lose me for nothing and and there's there are teams where he makes a ton of sense in free agency right Orlando uh could definitely use his his experience is shooting um him as a complimentary scorer to Pao banero Philly could use him for the exact same reasons um of course in Golden State I mean if you just take if you're just thinking about the the fit of the player and how he fits yeah he's he's a fit in Golden State as well the the Intrigue um would be obvious he's a what 41% from the floor or from three-point range uh he can he can do some you know some secondary creation stuff he's not doesn't put the pressure on the rim the way he once did but a very efficient shooter um still think a quality Defender again not the the defender he once was at his Peak but a quality Defender with length that can switch and can give you some things uh on that end but again there as you mentioned you know super complicated to make the trade work out and what would you have to give up are the Clippers just gonna you know send Paul George up to the Warriors and just for you know for expiring contract like I don't I don't know so I mean it makes I don't understand how that would work either you know it's it is but it's a fun topic right go ahead sorry go ahead yeah and just again if there are players available in the in in the trade market or if guys if if it's you would expect Mike Dunley the Warriors to at least do their due diligence whether anything is going to materialize or not so I think it's definitely worth doing your due diligence on any player that might be available for trade seeing what the the package would be what it would cost to give up but ultimately again yeah it's it would be I think challenging overall there's ways it could happen but a challenge to to bring them here nonetheless any other names out there that that stick out to you as as a player that in your mind if let's say hypothetically you're the GM of the Warriors is there anyone out there that you think would be fantastic on this team that has some plausibility in terms of a trade or free agency um anyone stick out to you that that you think would be a great fit for the Warriors I mean another I mean kind of perspective train candidate you've kind of heard you know around the room Jimmy Butler um I mean we we saw the Pat Riley's press conference a few weeks ago right I mean they've it's they've he's been there five years extension eligible um do the heat want to give it to him he seems like a trade candidate too how would he fit in Golden State um you there's a lot to like about what he brings to the table um at the same time 35 GNA be 35 when the season starts he's going to want a contract extension um those are things to think about as well but in terms of the archetype of player a wing that can score that can defend that can put pressure on the rim um that's I think the dream archetype for for who the Warriors want to add it's just are those players available and can does the Warriors do they have a package that's enticing for these other teams that might want to trade one of these players absolutely with you like I wouldn't give up kaminga for him but with for the right asking price and and he's he's a bit polarizing like there are some Warriors fans out there when you bring up Jimmy Butler they they bring up the age they bring up durability but I am with you I I literally the the excitement I get thinking of Jimmy Butler paired with Steph with Draymond and and that the postseason like because that's what Jimmy Butler is made for and this Warriors team is made for the postseason it it would it would make them instant contenders sign me up you'd also be attracting other free agents yeah he excites me too I'm I'm absolutely with you um and AC in the chat asking would you trade Wiggins for Bruce Brown I trade Wiggins for air I trade him PlayStation not a five of four um I I but that's me but that's me for the simple reason that by by trading him for nothing you're giving more space for kaminga for Moses Moody to play uh you know it's it and but if Bruce Brown is coming back hell yeah Sam I know I'm weird when it comes to Andrew Wiggins um what are your thoughts on this perspective trade and Wiggins General uh I mean I think I mean we saw the finals Boston and Dall we're only two year I know it was two years ago but Andrew Wiggins showed his value uh in that series and showed what he's capable of of course this past season was underwhelming he talked about that at his exit interview a couple months ago um but at his best he's the kind of guy you need to win in the playoffs that being said Bruce Brown is too he's really good secondary ball handler or tertiary ball handler good Defender um great cutter can knock down a jumper there's a lot to like about Bruce brown but I I I'm I'm still bullish on Wiggins as a as a winning player I I think I I he's only 29 he's playing again he's in he's in training camp with Canada um maybe that gives him a lift going into the season and again still only 29 and the archetype of player that you need I think to win at the highest level a two-way Wing that doesn't uh command a lot of volume offensively he can score in a variety of ways while not taking away from what you want to do offensively so um but again Bruce Brown he he brings a lot of likable traits too so a lot to like about both players in my opinion Sam let me know what you think about this I I know we're up against clock here I just saw the time I'm so sorry uh we're wrapping it up uh my thought is if Klay Thompson doesn't come back and you move Andrew Wiggins to Clay's old position Wiggins natural position the two 2022 was an anomaly man like like Andrew Wiggins was playing power forward that entire postseason there never getting away with that again right I mean it was just a weird year where size took a back step to athleticism to shooting and you can't do that again I love the idea of Wiggins as your shooting guard because defensively you're suddenly that much better Wiggins is not a liability shooting wise that that's the part of his game last year that he got back that really uh made me relieved in terms of seeing Wiggins minutes is he was hitting his three-point shot that percentage went up uh it was it was some astronomical number from February through April I think he was the he was the leading three-point shooter on the team during that span so I that under that scenario where you have a lineup let's say a starting five of Curry Wiggins kaminga Draymond Trace Jackson Davis or maybe you upgrade uh Trace Jackson Davis and I'm I'm only bring that up because as good as tjd is maybe hardenstein is someone you bring in and then youd probably have to bench Trace Jackson Davis but still give him a lot of minutes my point is I like Wiggins as the two I don't think he's a liability on this Ross that's my opinion I mean there's there's a lot of people like you who think he's just good period um but your thoughts on Wiggins as a shooting guard like do you see what I'm saying and do yeah yeah definitely I I think the most important thing in order for this team to to um get back to the competitive level that they expect it's about Shoring up their defense and I think he's part of this solution there uh it's not part of the problem and um again you mentioned his offense at the last at the last chunk of the Season he kind of found you know he found a Groove I think he was close to 15 a game the efficiency improved across the board and again we saw what he can do defensively so yeah the more Wing Defenders you can have on the floor at the same time I I think the better the more two-way players that's you look at Boston they had five two-way five more than five even their bench guys relative to opposing benches were two-way bench players and and that's ultimately how you win at the highest level the Warriors in their Heyday it was the exact same thing so um yeah I I like I like the vision there I see the vision there where you're coming from and and that I think increases um your you know what you can build on the defensive end of the floor for sure and and I think that's how you maximize Wiggins right I mean you want to get the most out of them currently he's your second highest paid player on the roster uh even I don't know how if that how that would hold if Klay hypothetically came back but there's he'd still be top two or three um real fast Bailey Bower in the chat again email me on future shows I started doing this last week I'm putting the link uh in the chat for people to come on this show so if you want to wait for a show in the near future I'll bring you on um otherwise shoot me an email uh I am available Warriors 24p pod gmail.com if you want to contact me um Sam I know you got a run man uh let's make this a regular thing I absolutely love having you on the show um before we let you go promote away sir you got the San Francisco Chronicle as your beat uh you're pumping out content there people can follow you on Twitter at by Sam Gordon anything else you like to promote please shoot away um well first and foremost Cyrus very much appreciate you having me I always enjoy our conversations as well and yeah it's going to be I mean the NBA draft is Wednesday Thursday that funnels right into free agency so um we got a lot of stuff coming it should it should be oh my God I we didn't even touch on that that those one of the big topics I wanted to talk about was the draft real fast real fast before you go is it even worth the energy to think about the Warriors have the number 52 pick I have never been more bored in my life of an NBA draft and disinterested uh it's also talent-wise lacking um your thoughts on the draft man is is is there anybody that sticks out to you is there anything you've heard or you think let's finish on that note because we didn't well you know they found uh they found tjd at number 57 right and and could you find I think the vision is is to find you find at that stage of the draft you're looking with some a player with a trait or two in NBA whether that's three-point shooting whether that's defense find a trait that can get you on the floor for tjd it was his rebounding his shot blocking you know his Rim rolling and then there's other things to like that you can develop around that but he was mature he was physically ready to play I would expect the Warriors to Target a similar kind of archetype and at that juncture in the 50s it's a it's a you know you it's more likely than than not that that you know said player isn't going to have a long career but there's always a chance and where with where the Warriors are at right now with their financial situation uh every opportunity like you have to take this this number 52 pick seriously there is a chance they find a shooter or a wing defender or another big uh that can play down the road so in terms of specific names I'm not necess we got to see how tomorrow plays out but I do you know the Warriors you look at who they brought in to workout it was a lot of Veteran Wing players and bigs that could that could shoot fourth and fifth year college guys um that that could that could shoot that can defend at least at the college level that you you you kind of want to take a flyer on so I think um that's the direction that they'll go and if you can find somebody that uh can jump in your rotation whether that's an eighth ninth 10th I mean if you spot minutes at that point that's a w so uh yeah it should be it should be fun I maybe not the traditional draft in the sense that it's loaded you have your Victor wyas your you know your Zion your slam dunk number one two three picks uh but the unpredictability of it from at least a watching standpoint a viewership standpoint knowing that we don't know a lot about you know who's going to profile as the best play that's what makes it fun so very much looking forward to the draft and and seeing who the Warriors take a flyer on I expect a veteran college player uh either you know most likely on the wing ABS yeah I'm looking forward to that and Sam I'm looking forward to your coverage follow Sam on Twitter at by Sam Gordon for everyone in the chat like Clarence beaks writing stay on there are some major wash bombs you're right but I'd rather let that shake i' rather let all the residuals uh you know come to Earth and we get their fact straight we we're back at this tomorrow Larry Krueger and I are doing a joint show at 12 a new episode of the Rick Barry show and we're on this every day uh Sam I'm I'm gonna get you back on I'm going to drag you here if I have to you're you're too valuable uh I I wor I treasure you sir so I want your contributions on this program regularly that's uh and thanks to everyone for joining the program as always uh again we migrated a little over weeko and to see the audience come over it it warms me man I cannot thank everyone enough and Sam I can't thank you enough for taking time to join the show we'll be back at this soon [Music] thanks Sam