Jonathan Kuminga & Jimmy Butler Shine + how Golden State Warriors Will Adjust for Size, w/Rick Barry

It was an incredible start to the NBA season and the action continues tomorrow. Welcome to the NBA where it never stops. And after this last summer, I can't have enough of it. The Hall of Famer Rick Barry is going to join us to recap the excitement in LA. And what's next? The Denver Nuggets. Let's talk about all of that stuff with the Hall of Famer, the man I respect more than just about anyone else in the NBA scene. He knows his hoops and he's just an awesome dude. Let's do it. Golden Days brought to you presented by FanDuel, the official sports book of Golden Days and the Believe Network. [Music] Let's go. And before we bring the Hall of Famer on the show, it's going to take a minute to get used to that abbreviated open there. Uh let's give some love real fast to our sponsors. First up is Delete Me, which makes it easy, quick, and safe to remove your personal data online. 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You bet, uh it's it's it's even money pretty much. So, uh in my opinion, if you're going to bet on the Warriors, if you feel good about them, take the money line. The U is 232 and a half. Again, courtesy of FanDuel. And let's bring the Hall of Famer on the program here on Golden Days. Always a pleasure to have the Hall of Famer Rick Barry on the program. One of my f not one of my favorite individual in the NBA scene and a dear friend that and I'm I'm absolutely privileged to say so. You can follow Rick Barry on all social media platforms at Rick24Berry. How are you doing, sir? And your immediate reaction to a fun opening night of NBA basketball, at least it was fun for me. >> Well, uh I'm doing great. I just got back from the uh Huntsman World Senior Games, played pickle ball there and got a couple of gold medals in the silver. So, >> congrats. >> Not I was hoping for the triple crown, but uh a guy that I know that's a heck of a player just turned 80. And uh I'm not I wasn't quite good enough to beat him. I had him 74 in the first game, but uh came up a little short, but uh two out of three is not bad and two golds in the silver is pretty good. And then I've got the world sen I have the USA pickle ball nationals coming up in a couple of weeks and then the seniors next in December. So, I'm into the pickle ball as you can tell. And then, hey, I want to give you some information because I'm also going to start doing for people who are listeners and want to do something, >> I'm going to be actually hosting some cruises on uh uh for pickleball pickleball cruises. Uh yeah, that's going to be really cool. And hopefully I'll I'll get more information about it and I'll be able to let uh let everybody know. It's going to be and they have some cool stuff now on the uh uh Royal Caribbean Royal Caribbean cruise lines in covered pickle ball. So when you're cruising, you can actually play pickle ball. It's not outdoors and exposed and then play in Cabo in the day, you know, like a five day five night cruise. >> God, >> hopefully get your pickle ball. And if people follow you on social media, again, Rick224Berry, it doesn't matter what the platform is, you will promote it there, uh, when you're good and ready, right? >> For sure. For sure. >> Beautiful. And and hopefully once you have all the information, >> I get all my stuff going. I got a lot of stuff going on. It's like crazy. I mean, I'm It's very excited, you know. I got my potatoes company that I have with Pat the Potato product uh doing this. I'm involved with the with the AI and AR and and a company that does some amazing stuff. I was actually I was talking with it's called the synth human. I was talking with Albert Einstein. He was responding to me answering my questions. It was him. It was his voice. It's mindblowing. If I were playing today and I had the kind of followers that Stephan, these guys had, those guys should be doing this. I got to reach out to them because it's so cool the message you can give to people. Uh, we've got a lot of Anyway, that's another cool thing that I'm involved in. So, I'm busier now than I've ever been. I probably wouldn't be if I was making the kind of money that these guys make now and made $300 million for five years, but whatever it is, it is. Uh, but I'm I'm healthy, which is the most important thing. And, uh, I'm happy for the Warriors to get a win. I mean, I would have been very disappointed if they lost, you know, with LeBron not playing. So, uh, you know, that was good. We could talk a little bit about that. I I'm curious. What did you think of Kaminga today? Yesterday. >> Chef's kiss is what I thought. It was borderline perfect. Apparently, Jimmy Butler has taken him under his wing as a as a in a in a mentorship relationship, and I'm seeing it pay off. But more importantly, what was what were your thoughts, sir? >> Well, uh, I was very pleased, especially shooting the three the way that he did. We always talk about that if he ever got himself to be a really >> um proficient three-point shooter that that would be unbelievable for him, especially with his ability to get to the basket. I would have to say if I were to talk to him, I would I would take him and bring and and watch the videos and I went over it a bunch of times after I watched the game again and tell him he has got to look to be more aggressive offensively. >> He's too willing to just catch the ball, pass it to the next guy, and move. You know, yeah, that's fine. If you're swinging it to somebody wide open for a shot, you want to do that. But if that's not the case and you get it, you want to put you want to put a lot of responsibility on the defender, make him worry about you, and you need to look and especially with his ability to get to the basket. Because if you can get by that guy quickly, right away, and penetrate the defense, you've broken down the entire defense. Then you can kick it out. He sees the floor. He's not a selfish player, and he can either go in and finish it, get fouled, or create something else for one of his teammates. I think he has to have a little bit more of an aggressive attitude. I'm not saying a selfish attitude. I'm saying a little bit more aggressive. >> Fine line, right? >> That's what's that. Yeah, it's a fine line. And uh and talking with my son Scooter, who's, you know, out there in the Bay Area doing some cool stuff now. Um and we had a conversation about it and he said he would like to see him, and I agree 100% with this. If you ran Kaminga off of staggered double screens and the Warriors do a lot of that where they run move and pass and run their man off of other teammates. >> Yes. >> Utilize that and have him coming off >> back towards the middle of the court on the wing either wing and give him the ball on the move. He's gonna be really really difficult to guard. I I just would love to see him getting the ball in the move doing it because the players have to talk about it whether they switch or not. they can make some other mistakes. The guy can slip inside and get a pass to him if they're worrying about him. It used to same type of thing when when Steph runs and comes off of those when they did that a lot of times. I always remember one of the games against Cleveland, a critical game against Cleveland at home. I think it was Steph who ran from the left side, ran off of two of his teammates, came out, somebody came and and was there to run off and go to the right corner. And it was LeBron James actually and J.R. Smith who didn't communicate well. and they both ran out on Steph and the pass went inside for a dunk. It might have been Looney or somebody else. Those are the kind of things that forces the defense to make numerous decisions as to how they're going to guard it. And if they don't communicate properly, stuff like that can happen. The two guys could stay and then guy's going to come out and be wide open for a shot. If it's Steph, of course, they're so worried about him shooting the ball that both of them they didn't talk enough and they both jumped out and they passed it inside for an easy layup dunk inside. So, I I'd like to see I'd like to see Kaminga getting an opportunity to to run off of those types of setups. I think it would make him much more effective and and for him to look to be aggressive, to look to get to the basket. I'm not saying catch it and jack it up all the time, >> but I'd like to see a little bit more of that. I I agree with my son Scooter on that 100%. >> Well, first of all, I was pleased overall. Pleased overall. Oh my god. But they shot the ball out of their freaking mind. What? Almost 43% from two three-point range. I mean, they just were killing it. And here's another one of the things, you know, drive me crazy stuff that we did all the time over the years. Here's another one that drives me crazy. When the hell is the NBA going to wise up? Why do they put down field goals attempted and made and include the three-point shots in that in the to That's insane. It should be two-point field goals attempted, two-point field goals made. Three-point field goals attempted, three-point field goals made, a percentage for each of those two. You don't combine them. It is absolutely stupid to do that. makes no sense whatsoever. It just confuses everything because if you look at it like Steph was three he was he was 33% for that's not a great for him for for most people that's 50% in twos that's 50% in twos for Steph Curry that's bad night shooting >> fair >> okay that's a bad night shooting for Steph Curry >> but it it's you know but it's showing his overall percentage of how many and he was I think he was two two for would have been to me so he was three for six three no three for nine and So, and he had 15 shots. So, six shots and he had So, he and he had eight eight free throws. So, that's nine 17 20. So, what did he go? He went three for five or something like that only from two-point range. So, that's that's a good shooting percentage there. But, it didn't look like when you put it down as his field goal percentage, it didn't look as good as it would if it had been just three for five, 60. >> He was three. Exactly. He was three of five shooting in in terms of two. And I I follow you cuz they have that stat called true shooting which I don't like that stat either because it also factors in free throw percentage and and and it gives a weird balance or a weird weight to free throws versus field goals. And I'm with you. I don't think the NBA is ever going to do anything about that. But but Rick, going back to Jonathan Kaminga, I I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment 100%. What I want to add to that though is something tells me Kaminga what he's doing this year is largely trying to make Steve Kerr happy. And Steve Kerr wants Jonathan Kaminga to be a differential player as someone who when Stephen Curry is out there to be looking for Steph. And that's what I'm seeing in terms of his play is is trying to become more of a facilitator. Those six assists really stuck out and he's been >> Well, and nine rebounds. That's the one that I like too. >> Yes. And that too. Yeah. >> I mean, he >> What's your take on that? Like, like in terms of trying to make your coach happy while while at the same time knowing you have the talent to really take over if you want to. I I feel like that's what he's trying to do. He also told Sham Shnie I saw on ESPN today uh that the he straight up attribution the game is slowing down. It's always beautiful to see that. Do you remember the moment in your career, or maybe you never had that moment because you were good right from the get-go, but was there ever a moment in your life where you felt like everything just slowed down and became easier? >> Uh, on the nights when I went big time, it's like all of a sudden things happen in slow motion. But no, I I I mean, I always I always had great confidence in myself and what I was doing. And but the nice thing about Kaminga, I mean, he got the minutes. He got almost 33 minutes. Uh, >> yes. Second of the team. played. Yeah, basically he played he played a little bit more than Steph, almost a minute more than Steph, a half a minute more than the the pod man and just a little bit under what Jimmy played. And so, uh, yeah, I mean, so I think what happened that game just showed, wait a second, he can be on the floor with Jimmy Butler and produce and play well. That was the biggest factor because if you remember last year, you know, Steve said that, you know, he couldn't see him on the court with those guys. Well, he he was on the court with those guys. Got, you know, as many minutes as they got and produced probably as well or actually better than them. He had more assist than than Jimmy. He had more rebounds than Jimmy. He just didn't have as many points because, you know, Jimmy took what 14 and Jimmy got 16 free throws, which you know, 16 for him, eight for I mean that's like crazy. That's I love that. I mean, you know, >> look at LA and LA that they got killed. That's That killed them. The free throw line. The free throw line. >> The Warriors were >> Warriors had more free throw attempts than LA. >> Yeah. 17 for 28. They were They only shot 61%. >> Yeah. >> And And they got killed from the three-point range. I mean, if it wasn't for Luca having the big game that he had, they would have gotten crushed. Now, the I I'm always very optimistic, very positive. What bothered me the most, and this is something that's bothered me over the last few years, and you and I have discussed it many times. Yes. >> I hate them getting 15point leads and blowing them. >> Yeah, >> they did that. They had double digit leads a bunch of times and let them come back into the game. You just And they got away with it on the road. Okay. You know, but and they didn't have LeBron on the other team. You just you can't afford to do that. You can't give teams a chance to get back. You can't give them life. when you get that kind of a lead, you'd have to actually play even better than you played to get the lead and be more focused and just play smarter basketball when you get those situations. And that's something that they have a propensity to do that. And at times they're crazy turnovers. Now, I mean, the turnovers weren't crazy bad, but they weren't great. I mean, they had 19 for LA and 18 for them. I mean, you don't want to have 18 20 turnovers or more a game. That can kill you. And the other thing that they did well is that their assist baskets made to assist was great. >> That means you're playing great team basketball. >> Yes, sir. The Warriors had 29 assists collectively last night. That's that's a great number. Uh you brought up the turnovers. Draymond four, GP23. That that represented almost half the turnovers. Rick, uh I know you're only here for a few moments, so before you leave, I I I desperately want to pick your brain on tomorrow. Uh we're recording this on on uh on Wednesday or Tuesday. No, Wednesday, October 22nd. Uh tomorrow, uh the Warriors have their home opener against the Nuggets and they're one-point underdogs in that game because of how good most people forecast the Nuggets being. They got Nicola Joic. Obviously, the Warriors had lost, I believe, nine straight be before they finally won that match near the end of the season last year to end that slide. But that's a hell of a matchup. The Nuggets are deeper than they were a year ago. They are a threat. What do you foresee in that game? Yeah, that's going to be an interesting one to see. I've always felt that they had difficulty. That's one of the teams that caused them problems over the last years was the Nuggets. And you know, you know, I love the Joker. I mean, two of my favorite players will be playing in that game. I love watching the Joker and I love watching Steph. I mean, >> yes. >> You know, and and I thought Jimmy played a spectacular game as well, you know, last night. So, but now what happens because now they got size. You know, what do they do now? They're not going to go. I don't think they're going small ball like they did last night against the Joker. I mean, Joker will go inside and just destroy somebody in there. But is it going to be Draymond on the Joker in the post? >> And that's a pretty tough matchup right there. Yeah. So, it's going to be it's going to be a it'll be an interesting challenge, an interesting game to see who who uh Steve comes up with to the lineup and what kind of substitutions he makes because a lot of it has to do with the matchups. But, uh the Joker, but hell, he causes a problem for every team. I mean, >> the guy's, you know, multiple MVP guy. He's I always just said I always kind of like fantasy. >> What would the Warriors be like if they had the Joker? Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my heavens. I mean, it would be just insane. I mean, as great as they were and what they could have done if KD K, you know, if KD didn't leave, h but the Joker, oh man, that would be just something else to see. I would love to see that. Of course, that'll never happen. But it can always f I used to fantasize. I used to fantasize about being able to do some of the things that you know like Michael Jordan and beat my I knew I could beat the first guy and be able to jump over the second guy and dunk it, you know, jump over the guy and do I mean I Yeah, that would have been unbelievable. So I I had I had to trick the second guy. I I don't know. What are your thoughts on this trend in the NBA that size is coming back? Like I don't know if you saw the first in the double header last night with with the Rockets and the Thunder, but the Rockets have this monstrous lineup. The Nuggets have a monstrous lineup. Like do do you see Steve Kerr adjusting to that or do you see Steve Kerr forcing them to try to adjust to the Warriors speed? Like like what are your thoughts on on this this uh reemergence of bigs? Well, I mean, you always want to try to make them have to adjust to you, but you have to be prepared to make an adjustment if your adjust if your lineup isn't working well. You got to make some changes and figure out what's going on. Um, we always used to play games where the bigs against the smalls, I mean, you know, in scrimmages and stuff, and it's kind of fun to do that, but win. >> It's tough. It's very It's difficult because especially if they just go in and hammer you. Now, if the Warriors can shoot 43% from three-point range, then the other team's going to have some problems with the bigs trying to guard that. So, I mean, it works both ways and that's the way that's what you do. It's kind of like a chess match and you start making little changes. So, >> if they go small, >> what is the other team going to do to try to combat that? Are they going to send the Joker down in the post and just try to abuse whoever's guarding him down in the post and do that? Uh, but then again, who's the Joker going to guard? He probably would not guard Draymond and just let Draymond have wide open threes the whole time. So if Draymond's knocking down the three-point shots, they got to make an adjustment there, right? You can't just let if he's shooting and knocking threes, you got to go up and guard them. >> But I coach I I would that's what I would do. I would say, well, let's let's let Draymond shoot threes. I mean, if I'm going to lose somebody shooting threes, I don't want Steph shooting them. I don't necessarily want Jimmy shooting them. But I certainly, you know, would live with the fact that Draymond Green beat us because he made fi six three-point shots out of 12 shots or something. So, I would live with that. That's what makes it fun about basketball is the adjustments that you make to how the game is going. And you can have a game plan, but if the game plan isn't working your way when it starts, you bet damn well they'd be ready to make a change to that game plan. You know, uh, you brought up the adjustments and and you and and a moment ago you brought up the fact that the Warriors, they get complacent, uh, often when they have these these big comfortable leads and and they let the opposition come back. I forgot to mention on last night's postgame show, Draymond Green hit that huge, uh, corner three late in the game that that prevented the Lakers who were making a run late from from it sealed the game. That that was the death blow to me. Uh, and I just wanted to acknowledge that. Draymond with a clutch three-pointer. Who won those scrimmages, by the way, between the bigs and the smalls when you were playing typically? >> Well, if I was on the small team, we won. >> So, whoever side you were on. Okay. >> But listen, even when we listen, even when we script, we used to play one-on-one to do something. I honestly I've never wanted to lose. Even practice one, we do one-on-one and do stuff. I never wanted to lose. I mean, so whatever team if I played under the bigs and doing stuff, I'm trying to make us win and do it. I I I think I think the teams that I was on won the majority of the time. And you know, that's >> I have a one-sided biased memory, but other than that, yeah. Yeah. You know, your name your name came your name came up a week ago because uh Kaminga's agent Aaron Turner was on the program and we started having a conversation about the players in the league throughout his history who had that killer mentality that just that ultra alpha, you know, drive where where winning meant everything and and it epitomizes greatness. And there were only a few names that came up. It was you, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Stephen Curry, and and Aaron Turner. like his argument through a lot of this this back and forth uh you know debates that go on about his client is that's what Kaminga wants to be but at the moment this is Steph's team and Kaminga is growing and he's learning to be a more a part of a team as a whole versus you know trying to be that guy that just takes over. Um and and and again, yeah, it's just your your your drive, sir, I I to me is endlessly underrated because you were one of those players. I I I wish you played a little later so there was just more footage and more people. >> I would have like I would have liked those three extra zeros on my mind. Uh so his agent, how long has he been his agent? Has he been his agent the entire time for command? >> No. Uh no, no. His he became his agent in about right around the pandemic. So I think he became his agent right when he was getting out of high school. >> It was years ago. And when Kaminga came out, how many years ago now? Like four. Four or five. >> It's about five years now. Yeah. About five. >> So all I'm saying is he needed to be his agent then because I went to Jonathan after the season. >> Uhhuh. >> And when I saw him when they won their championship and I said, Jonathan, I said, if you're interested, there are some things I can show you that will take your game to an entire new level. And and and I never was taken up on it. So, uh, and I've I've offered that to a number of guys in the NBA. Never had anybody take me up on it, which to me is kind of dumbfounding. I mean, >> well, I have a direct contact now. >> Jerry West, I got to know Jerry West. I picked Jerry West Brain. I had so many questions and stuff for him. I mean, if somebody who was really good at what they're doing and I'm trying to do what they're doing, I'm going to try to learn. If they have something they could tell me, I want to hear about it. I mean, my god, you don't have to necessarily do it, but why would you not want to hear about it? and see if it really makes some sense and if it could be helpful to you. And so that's always been surprising to me. I did the same thing for LeBron years ago when he was when he was first couple >> Rick the gist I get from these pro aletes at least nowadays is they have so much going on that they have other people take care of right? So if you come to the player directly, >> this is you. This is you. This is you taking care of you. >> I know. I know. >> You want to get better. That's the one thing I kept hearing LeBron all the time talk about. Well, I'm going to get better at work. He spends a million dollars doing something. He has somebody a hall of fame basketball player plays the same position basically that he played. He's a basically a 23. If I was playing today, I'd probably want to play point guard. But, you know, similar, you know, who can do stuff. >> Why would he not want to hear what the hell I had to say to him? Hopefully help him. My my point is like he like these I'm not defending him like, you know, not taking you up on the offer. What I'm trying to say is that most athletes nowadays like you chances are they forget everything everybody tells them. Like unless their their direct assistant comes to them and says you have this on your calendar at this time like it's probably just going to just be be forgotten really fast. I'm going to give his agent your contact information and I'm going to relay this exact message. If you're still right now he's got to do it. I would just just tell him what I said. Just tell him he needs to look to be a little bit more aggressive. Not to the point of trying to take over, >> but don't just catch the ball. If I'm defending you, I'm not even with it. You just read his body language. He's not going to do anything with the ball. The way I mean, when he gets the ball, the defender should have to worry, oh sh, you know, oh, you know, crap, whatever. You know, what's he going to do? I mean, is he going to come and attack me right away or do it and that's what you do. You catch it and boom, and you attack or at least make it think you're going to attack. You know, you got to pass and do something. You put some Pete and heat on this guy. Make him have to worry about you a little bit. It's going to help his game. Just that little simple thing alone. >> Yeah. you know, and hopefully when they run some stuff and maybe, you know, because I know the Warriors that do a lot of that moving and passing without the ball, that's one of the things they thrive on. And, you know, bringing Jonathan off of, you know, like Scooter said, two, you know, double triples, you know, move and get him the ball on the move. He's going to be so much more difficult to defend because he's so quick, so athletic, and he really does attack the basket exceptionally well. >> Yeah, I I I just like to see a little bit more of that. But I was very pleased overall with the Warriors performance on the road. Even though LeBron didn't play, it was very impressive. Now, you can't expect that they're going to shoot the ball the way they shot it. That was crazy shooting on their part. 43% from three-point range. I mean, they just >> Well, Kamingo was a huge part of that, Rick. Kamingo. >> I know. He hit, you know, he was big. I mean, that's probably the best three-point shooting game he's had in his career, I would think. >> Career high for for three-pointers made. Yeah. And again, but the good news is there's a very strong possibility Kaminga, if he doesn't replicate that, Stephen Curry, who by his standards, it was a pedestrian 33%. Will probably go up, right? And maybe it'll balance out a little bit. And Buddy, >> here's the thing. Here's the thing, too, for Jonathan, he has to understand is that now you use that, you just made it down. You knock the threes, oh my god, wait a second. He's worked on his three-point shot. the first, you know, first impression of the start of the season is, oh my god, Kaminga shooting threes and he's hitting him. Okay. So now when he gets it and he's got a guy doing coming, he can go and just give him this like just like you're going to go. The guy's coming. You can blow by him so easy because now they're worried about his three. Whereas before you more or less let him shoot the three because he wasn't that good. But now you're worried about him. So now you want to get out there and your forward momentum's coming. He just gives a little move like he's gonna go into the shot and that guy takes that half step or just moves his body the least little bit forward. He can get that half a step on him and crush him going to the basket. You can utilize that. >> Absolutely right. And and it's so when you met him after that title, he was only 19 years old. It's crazy how young he still is. And look, I any person with half a brain would take you up on that offer, sir. You're one of the greatest ever to do it. your son is a legend too. >> Well, because I I he could be such a big factor for this team. Then, of course, throw into the equation, you know, Mr. Inconsistency, as everybody said last year, but when he's on, he's on. Was Buddy, you know, Buddy was crazy last night, too. I mean, >> five of 10, five. >> So, I mean, the way they shot the ball from three-point range was was incredible. I mean, the fact that the that the Lakers, give them credit, too, to fight back like they did and get it as close as they did, that was pretty impressive on their part. And then Draymond Green hit that corner three again and that that's what really sealed the victory. Do you have to run, sir? Do you have time for one more? >> Yeah, I have. Yeah, sure. >> Al Horford, what was your impression of his first game with the Warriors? Because there were some highs, there were some lows. What did you think? >> Well, I mean, it's going to be high and low. It was that way when he played with Boston. I mean, you know, he's in shoot the back of the three. I mean, they're going to need him. I mean, he's probably I would assume he's going to play a lot more, you know, against the Joker >> and pull him out, you know. I mean, that's I'm there. I'm thinking I got to play Horford because now the Joker's got to guard him and you have Horford out, you know, and get a lot of threes. Hopefully his three-point shot is if his three-point shots going in, that's going to cause a lot of problems for uh for Denver. >> Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So again, >> I'm looking forward to that. >> Hopefully next month I think we're gonna I think they're having this out from what I've heard that they're going to have us the 75 championship team out and have a recognition 50 years, you know, because it's 50 years this year from our championship. Is the documentary going to accompany that? >> Documentary is supposed to be coming out. I don't know when that's going to get shown. Okay. What's going to happen with it at this juncture? I don't know. >> So, it's ready. It just has to be. >> I think it would be great to have it the premiere or whatever. >> Hell yeah. You know, in the 50th year, 50 years. >> Hell yeah. That would be perfect. You mentioned a potato rig. You mentioned a potato company at the beginning of the segment. What is that about? That's news to me. >> Potato product. You know, Stephen Cowell is a guy that did it from up in Oregon area, but uh it's a great it's awesome product, but it's not something you can go into the retail store and buy. It's being sold to convenience stores. Actually, Alama School District is using it for the kids there in school. They absolutely love the product. It's got it's got cheese inside of it. We're doing something with Egglund's Eggs. We're going to have it. So, you can get that. You got a this potato. It's almost like a big giant home fry, but really, really good. You have you can put cheeses in it. You can put uh bacon in it. You can put sausage in it. It's just it's a great great product. If you love potatoes, you're going to love this product. And great breakfast, great even for lunch. The difference than basically, you know, having French fries, you can have this product. It's a great thing just as a snack when you're needing to do it. You throw it in the >> I I I put it in my air the air fryer, cooks it up right away. It's It's just a hell of a product. So, I'm really excited. >> The air fryer >> for sale, you know. >> The name of the product. I mean, as if I wanted to go go find it. >> Yeah. No, you can't go buy it in the stores. It's not It's not >> Oh, okay. Gotcha. This is a private thing. B2B type thing. Okay. >> It's sold wholesale to convenience stores, to school systems, and trying to get it into the cruise lines, which would be an amazing product in the cruise lines for their buffet. Yeah. >> Look at you. Go Warriors. Go Warriors. I'm going to talk to you about something because we Well, well, you'll end my segment and then we can talk for a second. Okay. >> Okay. Sounds good. Sounds good. Uh Rick, thank you as always. People can follow you on all social media platforms. break 24 besides the potato company. Anything else you want to promote at the moment before uh we let you go? >> Well, they can always go to ghostsleeves.com. RB24 is the code. Goleeves.com. Medissolaf.com. Me- DIC laf.com. Same situation there. And you can go for now I'm using now I'm doing Titan Pickle Ball. I'm using great great paddles, unbelievable paddles. And in fact, your $80 paddle is as good as 1500 $200 paddle. Great technology. And that's titan pickleball.com. And if you put RBT TP for Titan Pickle Ball, RBTP24, you can get a nice discount on on the products on that uh that site as well. >> I'll get some graphics set up for the next time you're on, sir. Sorry about that. So, I I need >> I got to play pickle ball. I did my The only reason I don't play is because I don't have a partner to play with. But again, I was almost in the Olympics for for uh for ping pong table tennis. >> No, if you did that, you'll you'll you'll you'll you'll >> Yeah. Yeah. You're going to love you're far away. I'd play with you all day, every day if if we could. All right. >> You're gonna get hooked on it. Anyway, >> always a pleasure. Thank you so much, Rick. Thank you. >> Always a pleasure to have Rick Barry on the program, the Hall of Famer, the legend. Uh he's the man there. There is no way to spin that. Um Bill Simmons still owes the man an apology. You know, instead of apologizing, Bill, if this message gets to him in some regard, just invite Rick on your show. Bill Simmons like literally slandered Rick in his book. Like it was the start of a chapter talking about the game seven of the 1976 Western Conference Finals. And there's Bill Simmons attributing Al McCoy, the radio play-by-play voice of the Phoenix Suns, slandering Rick, blatantly lying about him. Bill Simmons has also called Rick on multiple occasions on his podcast a prick, an a-hole, and he's never once met him. He's never once had a conversation with him. Everything Bill has ever said about Rick is secondhand. That's that's a that's a joke. And and Bill, this has been going on for years now. Do the right thing. Invite Rick on your show. You call yourself an NBA. the man has a vote for NBA awards, yet he won't interview one of the greatest to ever play the game. Make that make sense. So, I hope uh I hope Bill Simmons get that gets that message because it still bothers me to this day. Um and also I want to hear Rick with Bill. I'd love to that'd be a phenomenal segment. Anyways, uh thanks as always to Rick Barry. Thanks as always to each and every one of you. Uh we're going to be back at this tomorrow night. Again, we're recording this on Wednesday, so Thursday night. uh the home opener for the Golden State Warriors. They uh they're hosting the Denver Nuggets. That's again the start of the season for the Warriors ain't easy. This is a this is g this is a gauntlet. Uh and if they could survive this early stretch, which is going to include, I think, three backto backs in the first 10 games. So, it's it's going to be challenging, but uh we're here to cover all of it. And we can't thank you enough. Always appreciative. Um we're always grateful for your support. And we're back at this soon. Thank you everybody. We're done. Bye-bye. [Music] friends.