Anders Corr, Publisher of Journal of Political Risk, Principal at Corr Analytics Inc., and Author of "The Concentration of Power," discusses with NTD the high-stakes meeting between President Donald Trump and Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leader Xi Jinping this week. Corr also spoke on the future of U.S.-China relations and the CCP's next five-year plan. -- 🧶More NTD Programs: https://www.ntd.com/programs?utm_source=YouTube&utm_medium=SocialM
Welcome back. I'm Tiffany Meyer.
President Trump met with Chinese regime
leader Xiinping this week in a highly
anticipated meeting. Before this
meeting, the Chinese Communist Party
trying to impose curbs on global rare
earth exports, but it let up after the
negotiations with Trump. The CCP also
published its new 5-year plan this
month. So, what does the future hold for
USChina relations? Can the Chinese
economy survive Trump's reordering of
global trade? And who holds more cards
in the trade war? Joining us now to
unpack all of this is Anders Core,
publisher of the Journal of Political
Risk, principal at Core Analytics and
author of the Concentration of Power.
Anders, thank you so much for joining
us. A lot of focus on the Trump meeting.
It covered a lot of ground from
fentinel, soybeans to rare earth
according to reports. Now, given these
are verbal agreements, no deal has been
signed yet. Is it more of a trade truce
than a trade deal? How are you reading
this?
>> That's a great characterization. Uh the
devil is in the details here. You know,
Trump decreased the uh fentinel related
tariffs by 10% from 20%. Um you know, so
clearly there's some very hard
bargaining here. Um and the you know,
we'll see what happens as far as whether
China actually makes changes to its
counter narcotics enforcement, but um I
don't think anyone's really holding
their breath. And I think that uh the
10% drop uh in that particular one is
probably a goodwill gesture. I think
Trump was really making an effort. I
think you see in his relation his his
relations with she that he's really uh
bending over his backwards essentially
to you know extend the best hand put the
best foot forward uh try to be friendly
uh despite all of the problems uh which
is to his credit um you know but I
didn't see Xi Jinping returning the
favor at all really
>> now fentinel of course huge issue
another of the key aspects people were
watching for in that Trump she meeting
was the issue of rare earths While China
has agreed to delay the recent rare
export controls for a year, the ones
from April appear to still be in place.
Now, those covered seven of the metals
as well as magnets that are critical for
automakers and defense companies. What
do you make of these verbal trade
agreements? Is it back to the status quo
before the recent escalations?
>> I think that's a good good uh approach
or thought. uh you know it's
these rare earth uh element um export
controls are really kind of boiling this
the frog slowly as it were. It's um you
know we're starting to get used to the
idea of China imposing export controls
on its rare earth elements. It it had it
it didn't do that in a serious way
before it did it a bit to Japan in 2010
and um some some other minor stuff but
um you know we really should have been
on this decades ago in terms of
stockpiling everything that was
necessary getting our own supply chains
in order um you know as soon as we saw
them do that against Japan a decade and
a half ago we should have we should have
taken more action but we didn't and now
we're caught flatfooted essentially um
and we're a bit over the barrel in these
negotiations. So what Trump is doing is
really a buying time so that we can get
our own supply chains going that are
independent of China. B we are uh you
know engaging with uh Japan, Australia,
Malaysia, even Cambodia which is usually
thought of in China's court um to uh ink
deals on rare earth elements. problem is
that the the key there's a lot of rare
earth out there ironically but uh the
refining of the rare earth elements is
the key issue and there's a couple of
rare earth elements that are in China
and Myanmar only so uh we should really
be looking uh to another Trump deal with
Myanmar if we can get it but of course
Myanmar is in a civil war there was a
coup recently um so it's a it's a very
dynamic situation and we're going to see
what happens essentially
And on that global roll out of China's
export controls, we are seeing American
allies like Canada leading the charge of
the G7 summit to launch a new alliance
in a bid to reduce China's rare earth
monopoly. In your view, does that signal
a growing coalition of freedomloving
countries banding together against
authoritarianism?
>> I think so. um you know the the
rare earth element export controls from
China are a real eye openener for a lot
of countries because it's a glo it's
essentially a global law they're they're
trying to impose their will uh globally
on the entire uh rare earth element
market um and that would obviously have
major implications for uh military
industries, defense industries um
everything from missile defense radar,
uh, drones, uh, you know, even AI
semiconductors, all these things are
affected by would be affected by a
rarest element export ban by China. And
so they could be pickers and choosers in
terms of which defense industries win
and lose, which would of course be a
disaster for Taiwan. It would be a
disaster for the United States and
Europe uh, in its fight against Russia.
So, um, countries aren't going to just
roll over and let that happen. But at
the same time, um, it's a very
difficult, uh, road to hoe because, uh,
again, we don't have our we don't have
our supply in order. So, we're in
trouble. We better get moving.
>> And switching gears a little bit, you
have a piece out on the Chinese
Communist Party's new five-year plan.
First, what stood out to you in that?
>> It's a bit more of the same. I mean they
they're they're picking and choosing uh
which industries are going to be the the
the winners, which ones are going to be
subsidized by the state. Um and those
include AI, semiconductors,
um you know, drones, all of the things
that one would expect them to expect to
be the next big thing uh in you know,
world technological development. They
wanna they want to control things in the
same they they see what the power is of
controlling something like rare earth
elements or semiconductors. The US
currently along with Japan and the
Netherlands controls the best
semiconductors and semiconductor making
machines. So they want to put themselves
into that position of uh you know
essentially being a gatekeeper for a
major global technology um and being
able to leverage that for immense
amounts of power. Um and that that's
what they're doing is subsidizing but
the people who pay the biggest price for
that is the Chinese consumer and the
Chinese citizen uh because they have you
know their their uh purchasing power in
terms of what percent of it drives the
or what percent of that Chinese economy
is driven by consumer purchasing is you
know around 50% and that's a lot less by
10 20% uh compared to uh the rest of the
world. So unfortunately for the Chinese
consumer, the Chinese Communist Party
has a has a lock on them and is able to
squeeze them for everything they got in
order to for the CCP to try to um use
that economic power instead of for
buying consumer goods for its citizens,
use it for their own malign purposes.
>> Well, Anders Core, as always, thank you
so much for joining us.
Thank you.