Watch Wrong? #2 - Vintage Omega watch issues, Can you spot them!?

Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Watch Wrong. It seemed like you guys really enjoyed this series, so I have decided to do a part 2. And before I get started, I do apologize for the delay on my YouTube video. That's because I have been really busy recently repairing more watches for my site before Christmas. Anyways, this series will be a bit longer than the previous one, and I hope you guys will enjoy it as well. So, for the first example, I just have a picture of an Omega watch movement. Can you spot what is the issue? So, if you look carefully at this movement, you can see that where the center, where the weight sits, besides the weight, you will see a smaller screw, and that screw is missing a clamp. And without that clamp, this weight will just fall right off if you turn the watch over. And if you look to the top, the case clamp is also incorrect as well. So, that's the issue on this piece. This next watch is an Omega Seamaster manual wind watch. And by looking at the case design, you know that this is a 1950s Omega watch. However, if you look at the dial on this watch, you'll notice that where the Swiss made is, there are two Ts. Two Ts will indicate that this watch should have trillium luminous. However, there are no luminous on the hour markers or on the hands. So, that's an odd sign. And trillium is only on watches during the 1960s. And this is a 1950s watch. So, this also indicates that the dial on this watch has been refinished. This next watch is an Omega Seamaster DeVille watch. And the issue is very simple to spot. That's because the case design is not for an Omega Seamaster DeVille. The case lugs are incorrect and the bezel is a fixed bezel. On a genuine Seamaster DeVille, the bezel is removable. So, by looking at the case in this photo, I know that the case back can also be open. And on a genuine Seamaster DeVille, the case back cannot be open. It is a one-piece case with the movement loaded from the top. So, that tells me that the dial on this watch definitely has been refinished sometime in the past. This next watch is an Omega Automatic watch. And there are two main issues on this watch. The first issue are these set of hands are not genuine vintage Omega hands. They are brand new set of hands. Generic hands that are made to fit vintage Omega or any other brand names with the same hole size. And if you look at this dial, which indicates the second issue, is that the dial is a refinished dial. And the simplest way to find out on this dial is that there is some imperfection on the minute track in between the 7 to 8 o'clock position. And not to mention, if the hands has luminous, the hour indexes should have luminous as well. So, this watch has been poorly restored. The issue on this next watch was a giveaway. If you actually saw the original post for this watch, the seller provided a picture of the movement. And it was a manual wind movement. So, right away, that was a giveaway telling you that the dial on this watch has been refinished. That's because if the movement is manual wind, the dial should not say automatic. And if you look at this dial, it does say Omega Automatic. So, basically, this has been a refinished dial. And those set of hands are also incorrect. This next watch is an Omega Seamaster Chronograph. So, first, I'll show you the front view of this watch. As you can see, the dial is in excellent condition. The hands are also in very good condition. But the case, if you look at the case, it seems like it has been overly polished as the lugs are all rounded. So, next, I'll show you the case back. And from looking at the case back, you will probably know there's some issue with this watch. And here's a picture of the case back. And if you look at the case back, that purple stuff is the original lacquer that came with the watch. Well, came with the case back. And usually, on a vintage watch, you will not see this original lacquer anymore because over the year, it eventually will fall off. So, that's a sign that this case back is most likely brand new. And if you compare with the front of the case, well, the front of the case has been overly polished. So, it's telling me that the original case back that came with the watch probably got replaced with this one. So, if you look forward to buy a timepiece like this, I suggest you should just pass. Here we have an Omega Seamaster DeVille. By looking at this picture, can you see any odd sign about this watch? Well, by looking at the dial on this watch, you know right away that this is a refinished dial. That's because Omega Seamaster DeVille does not make a dial with the word DeVille above Seamaster. This next piece may take someone who is more familiar with vintage Omega. That's because when you look at the dial on this watch, it's a Geneva Seamaster. And if you look at the case, if you're familiar with vintage Omega, you'll know that this case does not belong to a Seamaster watch. And then the next thing, well, the next issue will be looking at our indexes. They are all raised. Raised out indexes means the date window should be there and also raised. And if you look at this dial, the date window is missing. So, it indicates that the dial on this watch has been refinished. This next watch is an Omega Seamaster DeVille. This one, I would say, can be quite tricky because the dial is very, very well done. So, it might fool a lot of people thinking that this may be a factory original finished dial. But they did make a mistake while printing this dial. And that's because looking at the Swiss made, there are two Ts. And again, two Ts indicate that the dial should have luminance. And if you look at this dial, there are no luminance at all. Even on the out indexes and all that, they only have the black paint or it could be black onyx. So, this indicates that this watch has a refinished dial. This next piece is in our original Omega Constellation C case model. And by looking at this watch, there's nothing wrong with the watch itself if you're looking from exterior wise. However, once I provide you with the inside of the watch, like the picture of the movement, you'll notice that there's something wrong with this watch. By looking at this movement, you'll notice that there are two areas that you can pick up right away that tells you this movement has been modified and, well, has been switched with the original constellation movement. Because caliber 565 is never an Omega Constellation caliber. And if you look at the automatic bridge, it does not say temperature or adjusted. So, that means the bridge is correct for caliber 565, but the movement itself does not belong to this Omega Constellation watch. This next watch is an easy-peasy one. So, by looking at this watch, you'll know instantly that this dial has been refinished due to the fresh luminance that's on the dial and the font is also incorrect. And then by looking at the hands, you'll know that this set of hands most likely does not belong to this watch because of the length for the minute hand and also the hands do not have luminance. And if the dial has luminance, the hand have to have luminance as well. And if you look at the sub-second hand, that hand is way too short. So, it's probably cut off or, well, most likely does not belong to this watch as well. Here's an Omega watch with the black waffle dial. And if you are new to the Omega watch market, well, vintage watch market, you'll probably buy this watch without second thought. But if you do your research, you'll notice that the case on this watch is a Beefy or Fatlux case model, which belong to an Omega Seamaster watch. But if you look at the dial on this watch, it's a Constellation. And if you look at the cross here on the dial, it is poorly printed on. So, this tells you that the dial has been refinished and it should say Seamaster originally on the dial, not Constellation. And one other thing is, if the dial say Constellation, below the Constellation should have a little star to represent this is a Constellation watch. So, watch out for something like this and don't get, well, don't let the black waffle fool you. Here's an attractive vintage Omega 30T2 watch. This is a rare watch due to the special set of hands and the salmon two-tone dial. However, by examining this watch, you'll notice that there's one major issue with this watch. And this issue is actually pretty bad. By looking at this watch, it's probably hard to spot if you're not familiar with vintage Omega. But if you look at the top right lugs, it's actually missing a piece. So, it's probably broken off. And in that case, it makes the watch not that attractive and it takes away a lot of the value. And you probably don't want to wear a watch with a damaged case. So, do examine the case when you're looking at a timepiece. This next watch, I do not have a picture of the watch itself, but I just have this extra picture of the movement. And what I want to say is, on this post, the seller described that he has serviced this watch. But if by looking at this picture, it is a nightmare to our watchmaker because nobody would repair the watch under a bounty sheet of paper. So, that's very unprofessional. And I also have another photo that he provided, the seller. And if you look closely, there's a piece of hair. So, that's not very professional either. And the seller himself described that this watch has been professionally serviced. But by looking at the two photos, no, it is not. This next watch is an Omega Constellation with black dial. Once again, don't let the black dial distract you from examining the rest of the watch. Basically, if you look at this watch, the case and everything seems to be correct. However, if you look at this black dial, you'll find that next to the Swiss made, there are two Ts. And this case model was produced in the 1950s. And 1950s would not have Swiss made with the two Ts. So, instantly, this black dial has been refinished it. Here's another 1950s Omega Constellation watch. This one is very easy to spot the issue. Besides the incorrect crown, if you look at the case on this watch, some things, it's odd. And that's because the solid gold bezel is missing on this case. On this next Omega watch, can you spot what is the issue? This one may be a little bit tricky because the seller, I guess, trying to be clever or smart or sneaky. If you notice that he set the hand so that you cannot tell that the minute hand is incorrect, has been replaced. Because the minute hand should be the same as the hour hand, which is a dolphin type hands. But on this watch, it is not. Here's another watch with hands issues. This is a beefy or fat lugged Omega watch from the 1950s. And if you look at those hands, the hour and the minute hands are both incorrect. That's because for this case model, the hands should be dolphin type hands. And if you look at the hands on this watch, they are both index hand. And if you look at these index hands, they're not even Omega index hands. So incorrect replacement and also not genuine Omega hands replacement as well. This next watch is an Omega Seamaster calendar watch. And whoever did the dial refinish on this watch did a very good job because the luminous is actually orange. So a lot of people were mistaken that this must be a genuine factory original finish dial. However, it is not. It is a redial. That's because if you look at the cross here, it does not go right through the Seamaster calendar. And it does not go right through the Omega automatic as well. So instantly, you know, this has been refinished. Last but not least, I've saved this 1950s Omega Constellation for last. This one actually gave me a big laugh because whoever did the dial refinish on this one, not only that the font are very incorrect, but how the guy set back our markers are also incorrect as well. Because on this watch, if you look at all the hour markers, well, the one o'clock, two o'clock, and then the four o'clock and the five o'clock and so on, they are fitted the wrong way. And they are supposed to be fitted the other way. So they need to flip these hour markers so that the watch look correct again. And I do have an example. So if you look at this one, this is the correct way to set the hour markers for this dial. And of course, supposed to have luminance as well. So yeah, this one is quite a funny one. That's the end of this video. I hope you guys enjoyed it. I hope I was able to educate you guys some more. And I do hope that I can produce more of these videos in the future. 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