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>> I'm in the situation where I very much
want to trust my husband's judgment on
finances in our future, but we've hit
like a rocky patch here where uh we just
keep well, he just keeps kind of digging
us into more and more debt in the in
like the hopes that we'll get out of it
one day with some just risky real estate
world stuff.
>> And I don't know how to dig ourselves
out of that. like maintain respectful
marital boundaries doing that. And I
don't I just my opinion kind of gets
thrown aside because I'm not as risky. I
don't want to take risks. I'm not
>> Well, it's not the risk. It's the
get-rich quick, right?
>> The get-rich quick. I'm not a fan of
that strategy.
>> Yeah. So, here's the deal. You're not
called to respect your husband if every
time he gets in a car, he drives it into
a ditch.
You go, you suck at driving.
>> That's not disrespectful of your husband
as a husband. It's disrespectful of his
driving ability cuz he sucks at driving.
So don't get this confused that somehow
respect is I'm supposed to turn a blind
eye to idiocy.
That's not respect. That's just that's
just enabling.
Then when you give respect and and you
give a compliment for something that he
actually does right, we don't know if
it's real cuz you also endorse stupid
stuff by call and call it respect.
>> No. No. He can't drive a car. He keeps
running in the ditch. Honey, you need
driving lessons and I'm not riding with
your butt until you learn how to drive.
You suck at driving. That's not really I
mean some version of that nicer than
that is not disrespectful.
That's not disrespecting the position of
that you love your man, you love your
husband, you think he's a good guy. He
sucks at driving.
>> Telling him the truth and even a good
friend would do that
>> and he sucks at handling money.
His his his uh his views of money are
broken. So, uh, that's how you balance
it. You don't balance it. You get you're
getting confused about what respect
means. It doesn't mean turning a blind
eye to misbehavior or incompetence.
That's not respect.
>> So, tell us what he's what hole you're
in and what he's thinking of doing next
to get out.
>> Yeah. I'm So, it's this week that this
would be happening and my answer is like
I I don't want to do this. And so, and
he his opinion is we have to do this.
And so, that's why I'm so glad you took
my call. Um, our hole that we're in is
that he has a very problematic property.
It's always been a problem property and
it always takes the cash flow of my
small business and his other cash
flowing property. But it's hit the point
now where we have to max out credit
cards, which is against my everything to
basically use those as to pay for all of
the construction, all the things. And
now it hit a point where the threshold's
so high we have to take out uh a bigger
loan to just cover everything to try and
get it to sell.
>> How many properties how many properties
do you have total?
>> We now have three and we've been trying
to get rid of this one for a while.
>> It's just a troublesome property.
>> What do you owe on it?
>> Uh $6 million.
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for 10% off your first month. What do
you owe on it?
>> Uh $6 million.
>> And what's it worth?
>> Uh it just got appraised at like like
just over six. Not much though.
>> Is it residential or is it uh
>> it's an apartment complex residential?
>> Yeah. And so um you you can't sell it
for what you owe on it.
>> We we can sell it. It's it just takes so
long to sell them. Like it's always
takes over a year to like get the
packages put together. So So he says
like again I I'm not in this world. I
don't know what this all really means.
Which is why I wanted to ask like if we
just walked away from this mortgage and
said here take it. Like we're not
personally liable for it. It's business
liability.
>> Yeah. But that's
>> No, I'm not doing that. Are you sure
you're not personally liable for it?
>> I am I'm I'm 90% sure.
>> I'm not. Okay. Again, I This is why I
need you guys. I don't know what I
>> They make They make non-reourse loans,
but seldom as small as $6 million. If
it's a nonreourse loan and you can walk
away from it, yeah, I just walk away
from it because it's not worth what you
owe on it.
>> If it's a non-reourse loan, put the keys
in a shoe box and tell them to come get
them.
>> Um, but I don't think it is. I I want
you to be sure you're not personally
liable.
Just because it's in an LLC doesn't mean
he didn't sign it personally.
Yeah, I'm I think it's a non-reourse
loan, but I can be sure before I did
that. But if if if your if your numbers
are correct,
>> okay, if it's an $8 million property,
it's going to take a little while to
sell it, then let's sell it for 7
million or seven or 6 and a half and get
a little bit out of it and sell it. But
if your numbers are correct that it's
worth what you owe on it and your only
option to keep the thing running is to
go deeper in debt again and this time
personally in order to fix up this
property. Um
>> yeah, that's the option.
>> No, I'm not doing that. Um it's good
money after bad is what you're thinking
and I am too. But I don't know that, you
know, I want you to verify the numbers
and
>> um I'm not sure if you're just pissed
off or if that's the real numbers. So
>> those are the real numbers. I want you
to get in there and Well, I want I want
him to say it.
>> Yeah. Because what if happens if you
tell them, "Hey, I want to start the
process of of selling this today. I
don't want to do
>> I'm not I'm not gonna borrow money on
it." No, we're not. That Okay, that's
off the table. Now, what are we going to
do? We're either going to give it back
or we're going to sell it as is. What
are we going Which one are we going to
do? Well, we can't give it back. I did
sign personally. Oh, crap. Now, then you
got to sell it, right? Because you're
gonna get your butt sued. So, uh, but if
you got if it's a non if it's a
non-reourse and it truly is worth six
before I put another million into this
sinkhole.
>> Yeah. And and this is a lower income
property and it's a pain in the butt to
manage. I can tell by the way you're
talking about it. Um, you got a bunch of
crummy renters and it's not it's not a
it's not a fun property to own. And by
the way, if you say your opinion on this
and and do what Dave said and your
husband says that that doesn't matter
and he goes ahead and does what he wants
to do, that's also your signal that you
guys need help beyond this is no longer
a a money problem at that point, right?
>> Yeah. We don't do big deals. We don't do
deals of size, whatever size is at the
Ramsies without both being in agreement,
period. and at the wash house as well.
>> Fast,
>> you know, I mean, we we don't give we
don't give large sums to a charity or a
ministry. We don't buy things of size uh
without talking about it. And the things
that we buy that aren't of size, we have
talked about it in the form of it's a
category and a budget, so it fits. And
so, you know, um you can buy that beef
tenderloin, it's in the food budget, but
that's, you know, whatever. So, um but
because yeah, that that that's the whole
thing. So Nicole, the deal is this. You
guys are running on two different tracks
and you need to get on the same track.
That's first and foremost as far as the
particular property goes. Then that if
you get on the same track, that'll
better inform what to do with the
property.
>> And you'll feel better about if you
decide to keep it and work it
>> and you use some of the cash flow. But
so far, it's not been a blessing, it's
been a curse. But Dave, I liked how you
set up the very beginning because we get
that call a lot about a spouse feeling
like it's being disrespectful
to go to go in the opposite direction of
what their spouse is saying.
>> I don't know. Art we're we're
hillbillies, so arguing is an art form.
So I I don't know. Um, I mean, we
I I do not think my wife is a bad
Christian wife because sometimes she
looks at me and goes,
>> "No, I don't like that."
>> Absolutely.
>> That means like she's a full- grown
woman with an opinion is all that means.
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