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A woman seeks advice on how to discuss financial arrangements with her fiancé before their upcoming marriage. Despite a significant income and wealth disparity and a seven-year relationship, they have not yet established a formal plan for their assets, debts, and daily expenses.
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I am engaged to a wonderful man.
We've been together about seven and a half years.
We've been engaged for about four.
We're getting ready to get married next year.
And I just have a question really about how
to approach him with saying,
hey, what are we going to do financially?
Are we going to join our money?
We're going to not join our money.
He has his.
I have mine.
um second marriage for me third marriage
for him what what's the um what is the income disparity
what's the what's the total wealth picture disparity okay
so i make about 50 000 a year
i'm getting ready to retire next april i will be 59
and a half at that point okay he's 62 he makes
about $350,000 a year.
He has $4 million inheritance.
He has $2 million in his IRA.
I have $1.5 million in mine.
I would strongly recommend y'all sit down and do a prenup together
to make sure the assets are... And here's why.
Y'all have been together for seven years,
almost a decade. I trust that y'all,
you know what you're getting into and he knows what he's
getting into. I'm more worried when you're talking that level of money,
I'm more worried about
something happening to him and his kids or his cousin
or his brother's friend's roommate coming
in and tying you up legally. And you don't have a place to live.
You know what I'm saying? And
so coming up with, here's the path.
Do you have kids from a previous marriage that you would take
care of well they're on their they're they're 27
and 26 okay um but i do i do support them a little
bit okay well i i'm just saying like
if if something was to happen to either one of you
yeah you're you would both be okay
because you both have significant nest eggs right right and
so unless he wants to say i just got
this four million inheritance i want to gift you half of it
as my fiance or you want to sit down with him
and say i think that should be our
four million dollars to build our life
with right it's just having that big conversation
that four million is in a trust okay
so it is completely off the table okay because that's
the inheritance right yes
so then he has another two close to 2.5 let me ask you a different
question y'all this is neither of y'all this is your first rodeo
y'all been down y'all had
hard conversations before y'all messed y'all
y'all been in the throes of uncoupling legal
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to think i'm a gold digger like oh so now
we're getting to the money part of our relationship
because i pay for my after seven years after
seven years yeah i know so here's the thing
but he funds i mean he we also have a home together
vacation home together okay that he paid for that's 1.2 million okay
so when you say we have
it together did you put any money into it
or he just bought it and you both live correct we
correct we yes he bought it he paid for it
um we still owe six hundred thousand on it when you say
we explain that to me
because you're saying sometimes it's you guys together and sometimes
it's him so if he bought it i guess he owed owes
the bill right unless he put you on the title are
you on the title i'm on the deed
so you're on the mortgage too yes oh you're on the mortgage too
oh that's messy yikes okay um and so yeah you what you want
to do is like this is where i think
a prenup would be really helpful for y'all
because it allows you to sit down and say i want us to do
life together meaning i want us to have
a single checking account that we're paying our bills out
of that we're paying light bills and phone bills
and grocery bills i don't want us to be venmoing
each other money like hey you owe me for the light bill
and i want us to go into this thing
with established who's covering what.
And since you're on the hook for a half a million dollar
mortgage right now on a second home. Yeah.
And if something were to happen to him,
you don't know that you'll get any piece of his wealth,
but you will be on the hook for that
mortgage. And so I think you'd be right to say,
I want a piece of this just to clear the mortgage
on this. Right. I mean, I would probably have
to sell the vacation home right now. He has a house.
I have a house, and then there's another home,
his mother's home, who's passed away in Michigan.
So once we sell all our homes, and then we'll move
into the vacation home, which will be our retirement home.
And then are you going to take the sale of your home
and put that in a trust that you've established,
and he's going to do the same on his side?
I don't know.
Okay.
Yeah, I think it's fair.
I think it's fair to sit down with an attorney and say,
we want to do, well, first I'd talk to him.
and say what do we want to do here because
and and just express some of the places where you
feel exposed he can express some of the places where he feels exposed
and then you guys can say
either we're going to do a trust
or we're just going to say we're married and it's a 50 50 deal
and i'm willing to say that i'm willing to put
that on paper whatever we have when it goes down
it's split 50 50 and that's that on that that's fair too right right
but i i i like the idea of
you leading that conversation with we i want
to have this big conversation we're getting older
how old are you now oh you don't i'm almost 59 yeah
so we're getting up in our late 50s early
60s like it's time for us to have grown-up conversations
and i'm really nervous that
you're gonna think i'm a gold digger
so i just want you to know i'm not he yeah i know and i
said to him look if i was a gold digger i would
have married you after dating a year a year and a
Yeah. Has he ever joked about that?
If it's come up before, um, yeah, a little bit. So that's why you're like,
how much of this is a joke and how much of this is a real worry of his.
Right. So that conversation
needs to happen too. Are you worried that I'm a gold digger?
Are you, you made this joke and I
wasn't sure if it was a joke or not.
I really want to talk about that because it's been sticking.
It's stuck in my mind and it's actually causing me
to like reconsider having another conversation.
I really need to have with you. These are, I love Olivia,
that this is coming up and I love that
it's coming up before you're married for you guys
to have these real conversations to see
like the full picture of who each other
is and where they stand on these things is really
important and here's what I, here's what I don't
love Olivia, what I don't love that after this
long together y'all haven't had
this conversation yet. I agree, it just, it just because the disparity
has been so great and he funds, I mean he, we go on vacations
and I think that bothers you deep, I think
you feel like a little like, like you owe him, yeah
and I think it's fair to say, hey, if I'm going to
be your wife we're doing this thing together
if you're gonna be my husband we're doing the same
together and also let's go ahead and just clear things up
so that we both know where we stand
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