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Welcome in to the latest edition of ESPN FC. I'm Dan Thomas, joined by Shakir Hislop and Stevie Nicol. We've talked about it a lot over the last few days. It was made official today. Marcus Rashford is a Barcelona player after making that lone move from Manchester United. This is what he had to say on his arrival in Catalunya. It's a club where people's dreams come true. They win big prizes. And what the club stands for really means a lot to me as well. It feels like I'm at home. Manchester United is in a period of change and has been for a while. I don't have anything bad to say about Manchester United. I wish them all the best and I hope they're successful in the future. No matter what happens, I'm not going to regret my decision. Neymar is with us. And it's interesting, Neymar, we've heard a lot from Shakir, a lot from Stevie as well. Not particularly positive, I think it's fair to say, about Marcus Rashford and his attitude over the last couple of years. What do you make about this move? I think it's a really interesting one. I don't think there's anything that's really happened in the last couple of years that should make people think that he's deserving of a move to go on, be with the champions of La Liga, one of the most exciting sides in European football. But clearly they see his potential and they see a player who's desperate to have an impact. I think similar in the way that we saw when he went to Aston Villa in January. You know, he arrived there, it felt different. He looked different. He was positive. And, you know, he got to see something which maybe we've not seen for a while in those colours of United. So, yeah, it's an interesting move. And for him, it's a big one because even the way he's talking there, it's so definitive, isn't it? You know, there's nothing else. There's no United anymore. This is me at Barca. I won't regret my decision. I mean, it's a nice thing to say at the start, but you never know for the way football is going to go, because soon I'm sure we'll be talking about, well, where does he fit in with this Barcelona side? But the fact is, for now, playing one of the best young talents in world football, Lamine Yamal, is in a system where everybody knows that Barcelona way. And they'll be playing at the Spotify Camp Nou not too long as well. So I think for him, it is a perfect move because it's clear to say that he wasn't going to be playing any football whatsoever at United this season. What will be a successful season for him, Chad? To contribute meaningfully. I still feel that Marcus Rashford, and while we are talking about an exciting talent, is by no means an automatic in this Barcelona side. I think it allows Hansi Flick the option to make changes, to rotate, just give a different look when need be. But for me, I think the starting front four is the same as we saw last season. Yes, Daniel Mo continues to deal with far too many injuries, I'm sure, as far as Hansi Flick is concerned. But Rashford gives an option. If he plays a part in big games in league, in the Champions League, especially in this extended format, that's a successful spell. Yeah, got there in the end. Listen, the only success for Marcus Rashford would be that they pick up his contract at the end of the season. That's all. That's what he has to do. You know, whether Barcelona wins the league. That would take a lot, considering the money that he's on. Well, exactly. But that that would be success. You know, regardless of what happens with Barcelona, whether they win the Champions League or La Liga, you know, he has to make such an impact when he's asked to play, because I don't believe he's going to start, that they pick up his contract. That's going to be success for him. As I said, we talked about Marcus Rashford a lot over the last few days. Liverpool, of course, breaking the bank to get that move from the Bundesliga to the Premier League. And we thought we'd take a look at where he stands in the Golden Boot odds. He's at 33 to 1, so suggestions he won't be the one getting the majority of the goals for Liverpool. Mo Salah comes in at 4 to 1. Interesting, those around him. Erling Haaland, still very much your favourite at 11 to 10. Alexander Isaac, we don't know who he's going to be playing with, of course, at the start of the season, coming at 8 to 1. Jal Pedro is impressed, hasn't he, since making that move to Chelsea, certainly in the Club World Cup. Comes in at 13 to 1. You're looking for an outsider. Saka is 33 to 1. Looking at those strikers, Nadim, Haaland favourite. I imagine you will agree with that. Yeah, I will. And I think most of the people probably would as well, just because of the fact that, you know, in this last season, we've seen him have some time out injured, seen a sort of depleted and disappointed Man City side for long periods. And he was still in the top three for scorers in the league anyway. And I think when you know that he has more to give and the club have more to give as well, it'd be a big surprise if he wasn't maybe getting up to 25, 30 goals again this coming season. And I think for Salah, we've seen what he did last year, which was truly remarkable. Will Liverpool continue to be doing that in the same vein year in, year out? I'm not 100% sure. I think if anything, you probably revert back to type. We've seen Haaland being the top goal scorer, as we've seen in the previous two seasons. So I'm a believe it will be him. I'd imagine other people think the same, but I think the Ekitika one's interesting just because as well, you know, he's got Salah, he's second behind Salah in terms of those Liverpool players. But will he be starting every single week? I'm not sure because, you know, what happens if Luis Diaz stays? What happens if Cody Gakpole stays? So he plays through the middle as well. Something he's very capable of doing. But it's a great option for Liverpool to have, and it's a really exciting young talent for them as well. How many goals will he score for Liverpool, Stevie? Well, if he's not starting, it's going to be a problem. Well, yes, that is the sort of logic, everyone, that we very much pay the big bucks for. You kind of caught me off guard because, well, why wouldn't he start? All right, well, don't understand why he wouldn't start. Right, he started. Right, he started, right. But I didn't ask if he's going to start. 20. How many goals he was going to get. If he's going to be playing regularly, he's going to be hitting 20. So that's 33-1, looks great value. Yeah, and I don't get the 33-1. I mean, João Pedro, for example, who I like, who I think is a real good player. Yes. He's not a goal scorer. This guy will contribute. So I don't understand why João Pedro is so high up. I suppose because of what we saw in the Club World Cup and the difference that he made and the goals that he scored. I understand why he may be sitting in third place there. And I suppose he's going to start. And the question is, will Eketike start? I don't see why he doesn't. I mean, I just don't get how he's not going to start. I think, absolutely, he starts. So is Eketike going to score more goals than João Pedro? I would think so, yeah. Do you think so? Absolutely. Really? Yeah, the guy's a goal scorer. João Pedro is more all-round than actually being a goal scorer in centre-forward. Right. That's why Eketike, in my opinion, if the two of these guys were to play the same amount of games, I would bet money with you that Eketike scores more goals than João Pedro. I'll take that bet. There you go. I'll take that bet. You'll take that bet? I'll tell you why, because... You'll take that bet? 50 bucks? Sure. Come on, then. Why, like, 50 bucks? Did you say 50? Yeah. For you? Yeah. Wow. If they play the same amount of games. No, you can't throw that... Oh, I just said exactly what I said. No, but that's... I said if they play the same amount of games, then Eketike's going to score more goals. You're already throwing in little caveats. No, I'm not. You are not. Coming from the guy who's just talking about he's not even playing. That was Nader! You backed him up. Don't get all panicky now that you made your bet. Let's start this show over. Let's start this whole show over. Thanks, Deidon. Somehow it's gone off the rails. You'll go Jal Pedro, Shaq. I'll go Jal Pedro, because I still think, and while I get Stevie's point about Eketike, I expect Mo Salah, and for me, I think Mo Salah will win the Golden Boot. I think he's going to get... Do you think so, over Haaland? I think I'm going Mo Salah over Haaland. Well... Let's not... Before we go off on some other tangent, I think Mo Salah will, again, get the bulk of Liverpool's goals. And then when you look at everybody else around that front three, come front four, you've got Gakpo, Virg, they will get their fair share. And as a result, I think Eketike's numbers aren't as high as maybe they would be otherwise. And now, while, again, to Stevie's point, Jal Pedro is a more all-round player, certainly in this Chelsea team, as it stands right now, with a month left in the transfer window or six weeks, whatever it is, he's the focus of their attack. And I think he will be Chelsea's leading scorer. And as a result, I think Jal Pedro gets more than Eketike. Where's your money, Nathan? I would go, on this occasion, with Eketike, just because for Chelsea, we forget Liam De Lapp. Surely he's going to be getting some game time as well. Whereas, you know, if Eketike ends up being the one that leads the line for Liverpool, then that's going to be great for him. And I think for Jal Pedro, the goals that he's scored over the last few seasons, I think a few of them have been penalties. Well, who's the penalty taker for Chelsea? Is one Cole Palmer, is it not? So I think that share is still going to go with Cole Palmer. So as a consequence, yeah, I think I'll go Eketike over Jal Pedro. Well, I like you throwing money around, Stevie. Not pennies, by the way. I'm not taking pennies. And Salah or Eketike, who gets more goals between those two? I would think Salah will probably get more goals, yes. Definitely. Will Eketike's involvement be a problem with regards to Salah's productivity? Absolutely not. I don't think so at all. I don't, you know, how many goals does Salah get standing in the middle of the penalty box? Or in, you know, everything is coming from the wide area. And Eketike, if he's going to be coming from any sort of wide area, he's going to be the other side. So, no, I don't see Eketike causing any sort of problem to the output of Mohamed Salah. Of course, no Arsenal players are involved in that, in the betting as of yet. Joker has, of course, been heavily linked to a move to Arsenal, who are in action. Saka was in there, Bakao Saka was in there. Oh, apologies. Oh, thank you, Shaq. Anti-Arsenal, anti-Saka way. Will he start? Doesn't count. OK, Martin Zoumendi could have gone to Liverpool last season. He didn't. Of course, he will be playing for Arsenal at the start of this campaign. Talking of the move, he said, The first question I had to answer was whether I wanted to leave Real Sociedad. And it wasn't the right time. I felt that Real offered me more opportunities and I still had a lot to learn. So staying at Real was the best decision for me. I don't know what Arsenal saw, Arteta saw in me, but I saw him as one of the top coaches in Europe. At the end of the day, I wanted a quality coach. When I left Real Sociedad, I take that, I suppose, slot. How important is it, Nadim, when you're in that situation, the timing of a move? Yeah, I think it's massive, to be honest, and I think it's interesting that he suggested, you know, Sociedad offered him more opportunities because the opportunity to win a Premier League title playing for Liverpool feels like a significant one and a significant draw as well. But in terms of those connections, like it's happened to me a couple of times to where, you know, when I signed for Queen's Park Rangers in 2012, they actually came in for me in the August transfer window. But there was a manager there who I wasn't really having the same connection with. Who was it? And then in that time, he ended up losing his job. I can't remember. But anyway, the next manager that went in there was Marc Hughes. And Marc Hughes was somebody who... Yes, I lied. Marc Hughes was somebody who I'd just worked with at Man City. And understanding how he trained, what he wanted to get from the side and so on, it was an easy decision to make. And as a consequence, you know, I made my move down there. I was there for six and a half years. So I think the connection and the belief that you can have in a manager can go a long way. And on the other side as well, this is all these years when I was really struggling at City. So 2010, 2011, I went on loan to Sunderland for the year. Really enjoyed the incredible year. But right at the end of it, it just felt like the tone and the feel around the club wasn't in the position I wanted it to be in because they didn't really seem to be that driven as such. You know, what was the expectation for the club? But were they happy to be where they were? Felt a little bit like that. And in my naivety, I thought, well, let me see if I can go back to Man City because I've been on loan and maybe try and fight to find a place in the Champions League squad, in this squad, in that squad and so on. So I went to Roberto Mancini towards the end of that season and asked him, is it possible for me to come back for the next year? Because I want to fight for my place to see what I can do and try and make amends to whatever could have happened before. He said, let me think about it. And then as soon as he was thinking about it, the deal that I potentially had with Sunderland disappeared. But little did I know, Dan, my opportunity at City was also in the bin as well. So it turned out maybe I should have taken the first option and stayed at Sunderland. Yes. And then, you know, stayed with the manager, which I knew, instead of decided to try and find something that just wasn't there. Stevie, you've spoken before about Graeme Souness trying to get you from Liverpool to Rangers. Yeah. What stage were Liverpool at at that time? Was that when everything was kind of falling apart? No, not at all. No, no. We were challenging to win the title again. We were a great team. So my decision not to go with Graeme Souness was to do with... Because financially, you would have been better off, yeah? Absolutely, yeah. Oh, I would have got a lot more money. Right. But in terms of... You just didn't want to live in Scotland. Why would I leave Liverpool to go anywhere else, particularly in the UK? Right. I mean, it just made no sense. We had a better team. I had Kenny Douglas as my manager. And as much as I respected and loved Graeme Souness, no, I was absolutely in the right spot. How did that conversation even come about? I think they call it tapping up. Yes. I was tapped up, as you say. I got a phone call at my house from Graeme. Oh, from Graeme Souness himself. And asked me if I was interested in coming. Right. And I pretty quickly said, look, I appreciate you. And did you ever have a conversation then with Liverpool saying, look, Rangers want to take me. Can I have a little bit more money to stay? Well, if I wanted to get Souness in trouble, that's what would have happened. Right. They would have kept me trap shot. They didn't know. Loyalty. They didn't know. Yeah. So, yeah, it wasn't even close. Absolutely. I was in the best place for me. And I think I made the right choice. Big time. Shaggy, you were in it about a bit. Yeah. Nobody tapped me up. There's a phone ringing out there, Shaggy. Is it quite big? Have we paid that bill? Have we paid that phone bill? Someone call it. Make sure it's working. Good. That's all right, Shaggy. Don't force a story if you don't have one. I've got none for you. Zouma Bendi, of course, it won't be for real. So, shut up this season. But, of course, our coverage of La Liga continues. You can see every single one of those games and every single one of La Liga matches from now to the end of the season. 380 in total live on ESPN Plus. Lionel Messi and Jordi Alba won't be playing in this week's MLS All-Star Game. They have been selected. They should be obliged to play. However, Inter Milan will not be releasing them. It's still being discussed as to what the punishment, if there will be any, for Messi and Jordi Alba as a man who, of course, had coached MLS All-Stars. Stevie, what do you make of this? I don't want to say. Why would they punish them? Well, because it's the marquee MLS game. You get paid a lot of money to play in this league. Surely, just coming in and playing a game against Mexico's best is the showcase that you have to be involved with. No, I don't see it that way at all. This is an extra game that it should be a choice. You shouldn't be forced into doing anything. Right. I totally disagree with that 100%. And if they, well, they won't. Number one, they won't. They will not buy. So, in theory, they could have a one-game suspension. See, the rule is they have a one-game suspension, right? That will not happen. I would, do you want another 50 bucks? No, no, no, I'm in total agreement. That is not going to happen. And absolutely, players in an all-star game, in my opinion, should not be forced into playing. If they want a break, they want a rest, they don't want to play, whatever it may be, they should have a choice. You agree, Shane? Yeah, 100%. Everything that Stevie just said, nothing would happen to Messi or Alba or anybody else who turns down the invitation. And to Stevie's point, yeah, you should have a choice. Now, many players want to take that opportunity because it puts them on a different platform. It kind of showcases they're standing within the league. But let's be honest, I don't think Lionel Messi needs much of a platform right now. Nathan? Yeah, I think it's fair what the guys are saying. And I think as I look at this MLS all-star game and so on, you kind of wonder, well, who is it for? And then when you look at it from the sort of player perspective, you do want to be in a position where everybody's the same. You know, we all agreed to this, we're all in the league together, we're pulling in the same direction, so on and so forth. But then it's the face of the league, it's the face of professional football in general, Lionel Messi, and he's making a stance it feels like with Jordi Alba and saying, well, how much does this game actually matter? And when he says that, it's very tough to tell him, well, no, you have to play. And I'm with the guys. You know, you can try and give that one game punishment, but that's probably of a bigger detriment to the league because the fact that Messi's played in every minute of the previous 19 games for Inter Miami is a huge deal. And if you want to take him away from that, watch the eyes disappear, watch the moment disappear, and all of a sudden watch this conflict between the fans of Inter Miami, Messi, and then the league itself. And from that, sometimes it's very hard to recover. Of course, they've tried to make it more interesting over the years. Big clubs have come over, or indeed, MLS have gone to big clubs. But lately, of course, it's been All-Star versus Liga MX All-Star. It's been three of the last five All-Star games. When you were involved with it, Stevie, did it matter? Yes. So what's changed? Well, when you say it matters, it definitely mattered to the players. Right. And there was never a game that wasn't sold out. So it clearly matters to fans. People in this country enjoy that game. And the fact that it's a Liga MX Select, I think the league is just guaranteeing it's going to be a sellout. So I don't think anything has changed. No, I really don't think anything has changed. But you've got your biggest star in the league not turning up. That's surely a problem. Well, no, as I said, it's still going to be sold out. And this time next week, do you think anybody, anybody's going to be talking about Messi not going? You know, anybody who's bought a ticket for this game, I don't believe are going to be next week still complaining that Messi didn't turn up. They won't be. Nothing's going to change. This time next year, whether Messi's still in MLS or not, this game will be a sellout and people will go and enjoy it. So nothing's changed. So for those people attending, I get it, it's a nice evening out. But for MLS, surely this is where you should be able to showcase your league to get people interested. This isn't going to do that, is it? Well, no, but to Stevie's point, and I think certainly the circumstances has worked well from an MLS or certainly from a ticket sales perspective in that you have a league AMX team playing in San Antonio, Texas. That guarantees that it's going to sell out. Now, we may never know exactly what percentage of that crowd or possible crowd was coming to see MLS All-Stars, including Lionel Messi. But for whoever does not show up because Lionel Messi is not playing, that seat will quickly be filled by somebody wanting to support their club or Mexican player of their choice. So I don't think the turnout in itself will be at all affected. I just feel from an MLS perspective, the interest would dwindle. Stevie was, of course, in charge of the 2005 MLS All-Star Game, and it is the subject of today's Stump Stevie. Look at that! Ha ha ha! Wow! Oh, boy! Oh, no. All right then, Stevie. Oh, no. You, of course, went to the Santiago Bernabeu to take on Real Madrid. This was Real Madrid when they were just full of superstars. I suppose they are now as well. We'll take a look at the starting 11. We've left out the big, big names and wondering if you can fill in the blanks as to who are the five players that are missing, and every single one of them is huge. See, I might get a few of these because who's talking about this? All right, you're allowed to get them right. I know. Well, Beckham. Beckham is correct, yes. Zidane. Is correct. Raúl. Yes. Roberto Carlos. Correct. And the last one, Michael Owen? No. It's a forward, right? Yes. Ronaldo? Correct. Yeah, Brazilian Ronaldo. It's not a bad team, though. It's not bad. The manager, Vonley Luxemburgo, as well. They won five-nil, Stevie? I think it was five. Yeah, five-nil. I'll tell you what, they scored after three minutes. Beckham pre-kick. One-nil after three minutes. I'll tell you, I was like, how long's the goal? That's correct. I've settled for five. Okay, should we continue? A little bit of quizzing? I've made a good start. Ekotike has something very special about him. Only four other Liverpool players have something in common with Ekotike. And we're wondering if you know what that is. The French. And we will give you the name of what it is. It is a palindrome. Do you know what that is? No. So have a little look and have a think. So focus, have you got it, Shane? No, no, no. Focus on the surnames. Listen, if the Nasa guy... No, no, no, you can get this. Focus on the surnames. Oh, I know what it is, I know what it is. I know what it is. Yeah. Ekotike, is that from a movie or something? Not from a movie, no. Cartoon? No, not a cartoon. Am I getting close? No. No, you're nowhere near. Keep throwing darts. The darts players? Okay. No, don't know. So no? No. So look at the first and last letter. And look at the second letter. Okay, what is it? Yeah, the first and last are all the same. No, well, yeah, so... Just tell him, put this all out of our misery. Put this all out of our misery. They are the same. First letter's the same, the last letter. Second letter and the second, the third letter and the third to last letter. You noticing a trend here? Which means that you can spell them both. The other way around. Yeah! Forward and backwards. Well, it was nearly a darts player. There we go. Let's take it back to football, shall we? You famously played in goal for Sheffield Wednesday, back in the day. Can you name the two goal scorers? Well, I know they were from Forrest. Yes. Because I was in goal. Oh boy. Pearce? No? What was the famous Dutchman? Oudonk? No. What's the other one? Give me a clue. The other one's Scottish. Well, it sounds Scottish, at least. He may not be Scottish. Not Wilson, was it? No. They weren't Gallendromes. No. The Mack somebody? No. First name was Paul? No. Paul McGregor? No. And Brian Roy? Oh, Brian Roy. Oh, he left winger. There you are. Paul McGregor. Yeah. By the way, you were the double for Kevin Pressman there, in your Sheffield Wednesday kit. What do you mean? Far? Thanks, Shaq. So we don't have Nathan? I was looking to shoot you. We had one for Nathan. That was the only thing I had on that day. Hopefully, Nathan will be back for extra time to answer some of your questions. England, of course, through to the final in the defence of their European Championship crown. And we learnt today that they will be facing Spain. Spain, the big favourites to win the title. However, they made to work extraordinarily hard by a solid Germany defence. In fact, Spain's goalkeeper pulled off a couple of great saves to keep them in it. And in the end, it was a late goal in extra time that sees Spain advance the final. They will be favourites against England. For a lot more on that, be sure to check out Football W. They talk about England on the latest edition of the show and whether or not they can defend their title. That is it then. That brings us to the end of today's show. Be sure to stay tuned as extra time is coming up. Welcome in to the latest edition of Extra Time. Shaq, we're here. Stevie as well. Nathan, can you hear us? Apparently, there's been some technical problems. I can hear you. Can you hear me, Dan? Yes, beautiful. There we are. Did you miss our palindrome game? I saw it straight away. It's a very, very nice bit of trivia there. I like it. That's great trivia, isn't it? It's very impressive. Not bad at all. I think we stole it from someone. I don't think... Well, definitely, we didn't get it from ourselves. Okay. Rodrigo to Liverpool is an upgrade or downgrade to Luis Diaz, Stevie? Ooh. I would rather have Luis Diaz. Listen. Yeah. If I'm picking a team tomorrow... Really? I'm picking Luis Diaz over Rodrigo. And you know my next question? Why? Quite honestly, Rodrigo, to me, has had some big moments, but I wouldn't say he's been the most consistent ever. I think Luis Diaz has been way more consistent and has had big moments. Yeah, yeah. Do you concur, Nathan? I think for Liverpool, yes. I think Luis Diaz has got a little bit more bite about him as well. Not to say Rodrigo doesn't have it, but I think in terms of some of the physicality of the Premier League and for the way that Liverpool need to play at times, I think Luis Diaz can match that sort of energy. Whereas I think Rodrigo might come a little bit short there. Yes, he has the talent, but as we can see in the Premier League, he almost needs to be a complete player to have a big influence for some of these bigger clubs as well. Stevie, as Liverpool's biggest critic, Stevie sent me a video and it was like, Steve Nicol, ex-Liverpool legend, hates the club. He's like, hey, attention seeker. Attention seeker. I was like, why has Stevie sent me this? And I just saw it, it's just all the... Oh, boy. Edited, all the abuse. Every single thing I've ever said against either a Liverpool player or the way they had played. It's been all edited together. All stuck together. Shark it, it's great. Oh, dear, you beat my bias. Right, over, under. One and a half trophies next season. Where are you going for Liverpool? I'll go under, I'll go one. Oh, Liverpool hates them. There's new signings. There's a set-up as well. Why? Which one? Okay, which one is my first question? Premier League. Okay. Yeah. So Champions League. Liverpool are not favourites for the Champions League, are they right now? No, I would say PSG probably are. So there you go. Because they're not favourites. Because they're favourites. They are favourites. Right, yeah. Premier League. Yeah, I imagine they're favourites for FA Cup and Carabao Cup as well. Well, the problem is, are they going to play the first team? I'm not so sure. Okay. All right, that's... In fact, I'm telling you that they won't. The Carabao Cup and the FA Cup will not be Liverpool's first team. Okay. And when you do that, you open the door of an upset and get knocked out. Okay. In the Champions League, absolutely, they're going to be going for it. But as you said, PSG will be the favourites. Yes. And Liverpool, I believe right now, would be the favourites for the Premier League. Wow. So that's why I'm going one. Wow. Despite reckless... Unless you want to start throwing in the charity shield and all that nonsense. No, I don't want to do that. Right. Okay. I'll buy it. Who should United sign as striker, Shaq? Mateta, Watkins or Jackson? No, it's got to be Watkins. What's happened to Ollie Watkins? He's just kind of fell off a little bit back in the last season. But I still think, certainly of the three, in terms of Manchester United needing an alternate finisher, Ollie Watkins for me is easily the best of the three. Mateta gives you a lot more from deep, but in terms of finishing, Ollie Watkins. That was a serious answer, Shaq. Yeah, I'm a very serious guy, Dan. In case you missed it, there was a bet that happened during the show. Shaq had bet that Jal-Pedro would score more goals than Kittikee. With Stevie, $50 of Stevie's money. And not pennies. I'm not, no. I've still got those pennies at home somewhere. Yeah. Who should United sign, Mateta, Watkins or Jackson? Natum, who are you going for? To be honest, I'll go against Watkins, just because Watkins is a fraction older than the other two. I think he's 30 years old. And I think if United are going to be doing that, they're not really building for the future as such. And I think we saw in January that Watkins, is he not an Arsenal fan? Did not want that move to happen. So maybe he's thinking that could be an opportunity for him somehow. I don't know. So I think I would actually go for Mateta. Because I think there's something to be built there. Whereas for Nicholas Jackson, is he a nine? Is he a wide man? We've not really seen it enough properly in the Premier League. Whereas Mateta is a clear nine. And when he's hot, he's super hot. Would Natum be okay with letting Ederson go and replacing him with James Trafford? I like Ederson, you know. I think some people rightly point out some of the mistakes and stuff that he's made. But I think what he's changed since he's been at Man City, is he's transformed the way that they've played football, transformed the way that they've made attacks. You know, this guy's got five, six Premier League assists, whatever the number is. Somebody who people don't really want to go and press anymore, because they know how good he is on the ball. And I think for James Trafford coming in, he can be a fantastic shot stopper. But I think that ability on the ball is something which at times can define City. Yes, he could make a mistake every now and again, but the positives to me far outweigh the negatives. So I'd be reluctant to see him leave. But if James Trafford comes in, then I suppose it's just okay trying to build on that legacy, I guess. Natum, what's going on with Ederson? Why is he only 3 million? I don't know. I don't know, Dan. I don't have a clue about these transfer fees and so on. He's 3 million, but there's somebody that's never kicked the ball before. It might be 10 million. I don't know, Dan. I don't have a clue. Well, I have had some offers. Shaka? Yeah? Ederson, what's going on? I'm with Natum. Natum Sidney has transformed the way that City has played. I think where Ederson has come unstuck over the last few years is Ederson's strength was his passing over distance, over range. And you couldn't press him because Sidney owned. The team couldn't press too high because Ederson would just drill a 60-yard ball over the top of you. And more and more, his mistakes have come when he's tried to pass short out to the back. And you've seen less of those long balls over the top of defenders. I would love to see Ederson go back to that because that forces the entire team to take a couple of steps back and allows City a little bit more room to develop their passing style. So if I'm keeping Ederson, I'm saying to him, go over the top. Look for Haaland and Mamosh and the likes over the top a lot more than he had been certainly over the last two or three years. I find that strange. We're talking about passing here. Yeah. We're talking about passing here. What a goalkeeper's level. Exactly, to save the ball. Yeah, exactly. And when was the last time Ederson made a big save that changed anything? All of those, that run of games that was ridiculous where they were going ahead, sometimes two or three goals ahead and let it all go. If Ederson had made some saves, they could have avoided all that. To that point, Stevie. Surely that's more important. Is that not more important? But Ederson has never been the top shot stop in the league, let's say. I'm not saying he's ever been the top, but I'll tell you what, when he came, he was making some saves. He was making some saves. I don't remember the last time he made a save, though. But it's not as though he was, you know, he wasn't like Alisson is for Liverpool. He was never that type of goalkeeper for Manchester City. Even when City were winning, what was it, five in a row or five and sixes, whatever it was. He was never that goalkeeper. Chakas, should play be stopped if the goalkeeper makes a save on a penalty kick? No rebounds allowed. Automatic goal kick. No. Ball's in play. Okay, all right. I mean, you'll know, because when I heard this first time, I thought this is a wind-up, right? I don't know. Is it possible that this is, somebody's come up with this and they've actually thought about it? So here's the thing. Here's kind of the frustration with how things happen in IFAB. It just takes somebody high up enough in FIFA or World Football to put something forward and you have to discuss it. Right. You know, it could be the most ridiculous thing. Like this. But as long as it comes from a confederation president or somebody with enough weight within World Football, you have to discuss it. You know? And that for me, yeah. But anyway. You all, of course, came to America to end your careers. Y'all. Y'all? Are you okay? Did you try and say y'all? No, I think I just said you all. It was kind of a cross between the two, wasn't it? I thought you were just having some sort of- It sounded like, y'all. I was thinking, so you're okay. Where would you go now? Saudi Arabia, MLS or Wrexham? Saudi Arabia, I don't know. Why don't you go there, Shaq? Warm. Sorry? It's warm. It's warm? Well, it's warm. You're in Texas. Yeah, yeah, it was. Actually, it was way too warm. Saudi Arabia? Yeah. Stephen? I'm sure. Saudi Arabia. Yeah, not Wrexham? No. Stephen's in the latest Wrexham documentary. Yeah? Yeah. What have you done? I'll probably criticise the zombie. Welcome to my world. He's criticising Liverpool. At least we don't have ex-players like this, guys. Nadim? To be honest, I think I'll be on the same plane as those two going to Saudi Arabia. Hold my hands up, I apologise. But it is what it is. No thinking about it, no thinking about it. Shall we do the quiz question now with Nadim? Or do you want to leave it for another time? All right, don't bother. Okay, that's it. He's been stressed. We're good then, all right? He's been stressed. Oh, boy. What a short show. We are done. We'll be back tomorrow for more. And no Nadim quiz. So sad.