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Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:23 The Roadmap: What We’re Sniffing Out Today 02:06 Free Resource: The 25-Page Private Credit Report 03:15 Private Credit 101: The "Shadow Bank" Explained 04:34 The Valuation Trap: Grading Their Own Exams 05:42 Why You Should Care: How It’s Hidden in Your 401k 07:04 Masterclass Promo: Learning Wall Street’s Secret Rules 07:52 The Lockdown: BlackRock’s "HLEND" Fund Freezes Redemptions 09:38 Cockroach Number Two: Blackstone’s BCRED and the $400M Injection 10:58 Canary in the Coal Mine: Blue Owl’s Software & AI Crisis 12:32 The Maturity Wall: The $1.3 Trillion Refinancing Crisis 13:43 Framework: The 3-Step Crisis Detection System 14:04 Step 1: Follow the Fees (Misaligned Incentive Structures) 15:05 Case Study: How "The Dark Fund" Profits While You Lose 17:51 Step 2: The "Trust Me" Valuations (Enron & 2008 Parallels) 20:01 Step 3: Watch What They DO (Jamie Dimon’s Cockroach Warning) 22:12 The Doom Loop: From Corporate Defaults to Global Recession 24:30 The Credit Crunch: How Bank Losses Hit Your Daily Life 25:51 Baseball Analogy: Are We in the 4th or 9th Inning? 26:33 Opportunity Knocks: How to Profit From the Fallout 27:45 Action Plan: Auditing Your Portfolio for Private Credit Risk 29:10 Outro
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There is a two trillion dollar time bomb buried deep inside America's retirement system,
and Wall Street is praying you don't find out before it detonates. Right now, literally right
now, the biggest asset managers on earth, BlackRock, Blackstone, BlueOwl, have locked
investors out of their own money. Billions of dollars in redemption requests, basically,
I want my money out of your fund, denied. And here's the part that should make your blood boil.
The fund managers who lost the money are the same people who get to decide what the losses are worth.
They're literally grading their own exam, and at the moment they're giving themselves an A,
because why not? So if you have a 401k, an IRA, an annuity, or a pension, there is a real chance
your money is already trapped in this mess and nobody told you. I'm Felix Preen, I'm an ex-investment
banker and also the founder of the GOAT Academy, where over the last six years, my Wall Street
mentors have taught well over 20,000 regular investors Wall Street's institutional strategies.
And those guys deliberately keep behind closed doors. That back there is Winston, most importantly.
He's got the smartest hounds, smartest nose for sniffing out when things are a little bit
smelly. And this one is definitely a little bit fishy. So here's what we're going to cover.
I'm not going to hold you hostage. I'm going to give you a full structure. First, what private
credit is explained so simply, you know, Winston understands it. Second, the Black Rock, Blackstone,
and Blue Owl meltdown and why your money might already be trapped in it. Third, I give you my
three-step framework for spotting a financial crisis before they blow up, something I learned
from my mentors. And fourth, the doom loop that could turn this into a full-blown recession. This
is not a doom and gloom video, but we need to understand the worst case. And then finally,
what are smart retail investors doing right now and how do you protect and profit from this?
Let's get into it. And I appreciate this is a little bit of a heavy topic. So I've done one
better for you. I put together a little 25-page research report that explains the whole thing
in terms anybody can understand what this is really about, like the full thing broken down.
You can download that for free in our free community. There are well over 30,000 people
in there already. It's phoenixfriends.org resource. It'll bring you into a WAP community. There is a
section in here which is called video workbooks. That's where I'm going to post it straight after
I record this video. There's a ton of research reports in there already. These are all completely
free. If you want to also get access to our full dashboard on this, because I've literally also
built out all the data, we're going to pull it all together. You can keep tracking this.
This is like $6 a week or something like that. There's also a link down below to that,
which we'll also put on the screen for you somewhere. But this is not about you joining
that. Just I want to make sure you guys get all the information. You can take it away. You can
read it. So you really understand what the heck's going on here because it is not intuitive.
Okay, let's start with the basics. What is private credit? Forget the jargon for a second.
Imagine you want to open a restaurant and you go to a bank. Let's say you go to
Wells Fargo and you ask for a loan. Now the bank looks at your credit score,
your business plan, your collateral and says, no thank you. You're too risky. So what do you do
instead? So this is your restaurant business. Here is the bank, right? And the bank says,
no thank you. Your risk is too high. So you then go down the road and you go to a private lender
and they look at you and they go, yes, we're going to lend you money. Now, where is the money coming
from for the private lend? Well, a lot of that money is coming from the bank. I kid you not.
They lend to the private lender who then lend to you, even though they said no at the outset.
But it also comes from pension funds, insurance companies and regular retail investors. So why
does it exist? Well, banks got very conservative after 2008. Banking regulations got tightened up
because we had a Ponzi scheme of a housing market and private credit just sprouted up
and it's grown to over $2 trillion. Moody says it's going to hit $4 trillion in the next three
years. But where it gets really interesting and interesting, I mean, terrifying if you have a
retirement account. These private credit funds charge a lot of fees, management fees, performance
fees, origination fees, and they don't trade publicly. So we don't know what's going on behind
the closed doors. There is no daily price, there is no ticker symbol, there is nothing you know.
So only the fund managers get to decide what the loans are worth. Let me say this again,
the people who make the loan to you, the people who are lending you money, they are the same people
who get to grade the loans. It's like letting a student, maybe you have a child, and say to them,
how about you grade your own exam? What grade do you think they're going to give themselves?
Now, if you think that sounds like a bit of a Ponzi scheme, put Ponzi in the
comments down below, because I certainly think it does. It sounds like 2008 all over, doesn't it?
Now, you might be thinking, Felix, I don't invest in private credit funds. Why should I care? It's
a great question. Here's why. Over the last few years, Wall Street's been aggressively pushing
private credit into retirement products. Target date funds, 401k options, insurance-linked
products. So if you have a pension or a 401k annuity, very, very likely there is already
some private credit in there and you don't even know it. Reason number two, some of the biggest
private credit firms, Apollo, Blackstone, KKR, they've bought insurance companies. So they take
the premiums from regular people's life insurance and annuity policies, and then they invest that
money into the private credit funds that they own. So your retirement savings flow into their fund,
they collect fees on all ends, and if the loans go bad, guess whose money is at risk? Not theirs,
it's yours. And then number three, and this is perhaps the most important and the real lesson
from 2008, even if you're not directly exposed, if the private credit market blows up, it does not
stay contained. The banks have lent them, the stock market is affected, the job market is affected,
everybody is affected. Now look, understanding that your retirement money might be trapped or
that your portfolio could be hit is step number one. Step number two is knowing what you actually
do about it, and that's exactly what we're going to teach you. So if you want to learn how those
lovely Wall Street professionals actually pick stocks and manage risk so that those secret
rules that they have, not the stuff you see on Reddit or YouTube, I'm going to do a live free
training for you. And I'm going to teach you what I learned from my Wall Street mentors over the last
10 plus years, and it's free, and it's just part of our mission to elevate and up-level the skill
set of ordinary investors like you and me, and Winston is very much going to be behind that. So
join us at felixrenze.org training, that's on Saturday at 8 p.m New York time, and it'll be fun,
it'll be fun, and it'll open your eyes to a whole new world. So let's understand what's really
happening right now. Let's start with the biggest asset manager on the planet, BlackRock, right?
They manage over 10 trillion dollars, with a T. They're sort of the, I was going to say death
star of finance, but I guess champion of the little man is probably the way they describe it.
And they have a private credit fund, it's called HLend, it's 26 billion dollars in size.
And investors got nervous about what's going on in the private credit world, so they wanted their
money back, which sounds like a reasonable thing, right? Does that sound reasonable? I think so.
So 10% of people wanted their money back, so that's one in ten dollars, but the fund says,
sorry, you can't do that. So they only let half of that get withdrawn, 5% could get out, the other
5% denied, that is up to them. Now BlackRock's official statement, and I of course love and
cherish BlackRock, this is it, they say we're placing limits on liquidity, which is key to our strategy.
So we designed the trap, you walked into it, and now we're telling you the trap is a feature, it
isn't a bug, and don't worry, everything is just fine, right? But it gets worse, because there are funds
out there. We were saying that everything in the fund is just fine, we are valuing everything at 100
cents per dollar, which is sort of like perfect credit score, right? Three months later, it got
written down to, well, zero, absolutely just evaporated in one quarter, literally worth
nothing. It's a bit like, you know, you go, you take your car to a mechanic, and he says your car is in
perfect condition, and then the engine falls out three months later. You probably wouldn't go back
to that mechanic, would you? But there isn't just BlackRock, there is also Blackstone, who are also
named after the happiest color in the world, which apparently isn't a color. Someone's going to
write down in the comments, aren't they? Some nincompoop. Anyway, so BlackRock is cockroach number one,
which is not my phrase. This is how Jamie Dimon describes this, by the way. The JP Morgan CEO
says private credit is a cockroach, a bunch of them. There's a Blackstone fund called BCRED,
the name isn't important. It's an $82 billion fund, just a little bit bigger, right? It's the
biggest in the world. Now, eight percent of people wanted their money out of that one. I guess they
know what's going on, and they actually let most of the money escape. I mean, sorry, get withdrawn
seven percent, and they even added $400 million of their own money into the fund to allow these
redemptions to happen. Think about what that signals. When the fund manager has to put their
own money in to stop investors from panicking, is that really a sign of strength, or is that sort of
a, well, you know? Now, Blackstone's El Presidente, he's called John Gray, another happy color.
He defended the withdrawal limits that they have, and he says it is a feature, not a bug. That's
actually a quote. Now, you might have also seen this one in the headlines, Blue Owl. Blue Owl Capital
is, to me, the canary in the coal mine. They have a very heavy concentration in software and technology
lending. Sounds great, right? Until you realize that AI is disrupting the entire software industry.
So, companies that were taking out loans to grow are suddenly finding that their business model is
being eaten alive by AI. I mean, literally. They saw 15% of the money wanted to leave their fund.
15%. That is not normal. What did Blue Owl do? They basically said, we'll give you your money
back when we feel like it. We stopped making payouts. So, actually, no, they didn't quite say
that. They said, we're going to make periodic payouts, which is sort of, you know, good luck
getting your money back. But it's not just BlackRock, Blackstone, and Blue Owl. The stocks
of every major private credit managers have been getting hammered. KKR, Apollo, Ares, and I
appreciate these are not household names, which is one of the reasons I put the main ones in here,
so you can actually track and see what they're doing, because this is a sentiment. This is a
sentiment indicator, like nothing else, and so you can get access to that throughout our
private community. It's about $6.20 a week. And I'm not going to run you through every one of
these. I guess it's going to get really, really tedious. So, we've established private credit is
in trouble, right? Well done, Winston. What I'm worried about is what comes next. There is
something called the maturity wall, and it says exactly what it sounds like. Over the next couple
of years, an estimated $1.3 trillion in corporate debt has to be repaid. That means companies that
borrowed the money during an era of zero interest now have to refinance, but at much, much higher
interest rates. And if you think about it, you borrow $100 million, and you pay 3% on that.
Your interest payment was $3 million, right? Now, if you have to refinance at 7% or 8%,
suddenly your interest payment is $7 or $8 million. And for a lot of companies, that's the
difference between surviving and maybe going bankrupt. And what happens when those companies
can't pay? Well, the private credit funds holding those loans, they take losses. The investors in
those funds, including potentially your retirement accounts, are holding the bag, right? So, this is
the part of the video I really want you to pay attention to. Please take notes or just go and
download the research report at least and highlight stuff, because what I want to share with you isn't
just about private credit. It's a framework you can use to spot any financial crisis before it
blows up in your face. I call it the three-step crisis detection framework, which sounds rather
grand, but once you see it, you'll start recognizing the patterns everywhere. Because to me, that's what
I learned from my Wall Street mentors. It's all about patterns, right? The way we pick stocks
as patterns, the way we pick industries and sectors as patterns, the way we decide where to get out as
patterns. All patterns. So, what is pattern numero uno? Well, it is follow the fees, not the returns.
Every financial crisis has one thing in common. Someone is making enormous fees regardless of
what investors are making. Now, if we apply this to private credit. In private credit, the fund managers
collect management fees on the total assets under management. They collect fees when they make a loan,
they collect performance fees when things go well, when things go badly, they still collect the
management fee. They get paid no matter what. So, ask yourself this. Does the fund manager make money
even if I lose money? If the answer is yes, you've got what I call, well, economists and one of those
they call it a misaligned incentive structure. Very fancy. It's a red freaking flag. The fund
manager is not motivated to do something for you. Let me break it down for you with an example. Say
you have a fund and we kind of call it the dark fund because they seem to all like those names.
So, the dark fund does what? The dark fund borrows money, that's what they do, from banks and other
people and they borrow at say five percent interest, right? And then they lend the money out to
risky lunatic businesses and for that they charge 20 percent interest, right? So, how much money do
they make? Well, there's a great big beautiful profit here which is 15 percent, which is pretty
good, right? So, they pocket the 15 percent but they don't stop there. There is also a two percent
management fee. So, now they're getting 17 percent and if the risky company pays back the loan,
great, right? Dark fund keeps its 17 percent but if the risky lunatic business goes out of business
and doesn't pay back, guess what? Dark fund collected all the fees up front. They don't
really care. You see what I mean? It's the borrower who put up the money. So, this these guys's money
while the profits of 15 and two percent are guaranteed to dark fund. So, those guys are
going to get paid no matter what but the people lending the money are the ones who get screwed
and that might be you directly, that might be your pension fund, that might be a bank.
Either way, it hits the market and maybe you think that sounds a bit extreme, all right?
Remember what happened in 2008? Mortgage brokers, the ones who addition out all the mortgages to
people who had absolutely no money and they're hoping hell off of paying it back. What happened
to them? Well, they got paid fees as soon as they did the mortgage. It doesn't matter that people
couldn't pay them back, right? Or how about, you know, the crypto exchanges when they were all
collapsing? What happened to them? Well, they got paid per trade. Whether you were panicking,
whether you were buying or you were selling, doesn't really matter. Whether the token is
worth zero or something doesn't really matter. So, it's always fees. Follow the fees. Step two
is, apologies, Germanic origins here. Half the audience just left the room and the other half
are only staying because Winston's snoozing very cutely. This guy is just on a four-hour hike.
This is why he looks like that. Winston, Winston, hey, are you still awake? Winston, are you paying
attention? Not so much, right? A four-hour hike up and down some mountains. So, step number zwei
is the trust me valuations. Whenever the person selling you an investment is also the person
telling you what it's worth, run for the hills while you still can before you're as tired as
this guy. And if you are buying something publicly listed, stocks or bonds, prices are set by millions
of buyers and sellers every single day. Well, let's be honest about it, by Citadel and a bunch of hedge
funds, but you know, there is still a price discovery. So, you can look up the price of
Apple stock right now, right? But in private credit, there is no market price. The fund manager
tells you what the loans are worth, which essentially makes, which essentially means
we made up numbers using a spreadsheet and you're just going to have to trust us. And when the big
banks, the JP Morgan chasers, the Goldman Sachses start marking down the value of their loan
portfolios, which they've just done, they started admittering that, you know, the emperor has no
clothes. You know this is actually serious. There's a quote from Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JP Morgan,
and he says, I take a deep breath and say, watch out. Oh, now we feel good, don't we? Ray Dalio
says we're on the brink of a capital war. So, do you still trust the fund managers? If you do,
if you don't, write no trust in the comments. If you do, write yes, trust in the comments.
Interesting to see how trusting our audience is. Now, maybe you still think I'm a lunatic
spouting doom and gloomer. Do you remember Enron? Do you know that Enron valued, they put a dollar
value on its own energy contracts, which was the business, the mortgage-backed securities of 2008.
Beautiful film made on that. Guess who valued them? The banks. The very banks that,
excuse my writing, that created MBSs, you know, major BS, valued them. There was no
independent price discovery. If there is no independent price discovery, run for the hills
because the hills are alive. Step best, and this is the big one, write this down. Watch what the
smart money does, not what they say. That's my entire investment philosophy. I didn't come up
with that. People came up with that 50 years ago and they taught me. Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JP
Morgan, the most powerful banker in America, in the world. Just ask him, he'll tell you.
He has publicly compared private credit to the conditions before 2008. He's called the problem
cockroaches and said some firms are doing some dumb things. And then he says, I take a deep
breath and say, watch out. Now, here is the beautiful irony. JP Morgan's own private bank
published a report saying private credit fears are overstated. So which is it? The CEO warning
of a crisis or the bank telling clients everything is just pie? The answer, of course, is both. The
CEO is warning his shareholders. He has an obligation to do that. And the bank is keeping
its fee-paying clients calm. Welcome to the wonderful world of Wall Street. And then you
have the guy who built the world's largest hedge fund, Ray Dalio. And he says the current environment
resembles the period before World War II. He's advocating gold as the safest asset.
And the guy is worth like 15 billion dollars. And he starts talking about gold. That's a bit
odd, isn't it? And then you have the Fed who's refusing to cut interest rates and raising their
inflation forecast. Again, all the data to this is always and forever in our dashboard. Look at that
inflation data. Look at that inflation data. It's actually going up. That's not a good thing. That
is not a good thing. Because it means higher interest rates will crush more and more of these
funds and more and more borrowers. So the lesson, not just for today, but for every time, is
the smart money always knows first. In 2007, Goldman Sachs was selling those mortgage-backed
securities to clients while they're betting against them. The lesson isn't that Wall Street
is evil. It's that you need to watch their positions, not their press releases. Now,
what I learned from my Wall Street mentors, the guys who literally worked in banking for decades,
is the real danger in any credit crisis is not the first domino. It's the feedback loop,
the doom loop, where each problem makes the next problem worse. And these are the same mentors that
my students get access to inside Goat Academy. Literally one-on-one sessions is what we run with
it. It's incredible. So let me walk you through exactly how the private credit doom loop works.
And once you see it, you'll understand why this isn't just a Wall Street problem.
It's a problem for you. It's a problem for me. It's a problem for everybody.
So it starts with defaults. As we discussed, the default rate on private credit is about
just under 10%. So companies that borrowed at high rates cannot keep up payments. Therefore,
you default. Step number two is the funds take losses, and then they restrict your ability to
get your money out. So at first, they pretend there aren't any losses because they're grading
their own homework, right? But eventually, the truth leaks out. Videos like this get made,
and investors start to get a little bit, well, they start asking questions. They start asking
for their money back, right? So the fund says, no, you cannot have your money back. It is ours,
right? And then investors start to really panic. And then you get to step number three, which is
to meet even some redemptions. In other words, to hand some money back. And they need to,
otherwise the headlines get really bad. The funds are forced to sell assets. But there is no buyer
for these loans. So they have to sell these at a huge discount. And then suddenly, the trust me
valuations get replaced by actual market prices. And those prices are really ugly. We're seeing 30
cents on the dollar. It's a fire sale. And then step number four, banks, the traditional ones,
the traditional ones, the Wells Fargo, JP Morgan, Citi, they're connected to private credit. They
lend money to these funds. They provide credit lines. Some of them even hold private credit
assets in their own balance sheets. So when private credit funds take losses, the banks take
a loss too. Now what happens when banks take a loss? This is step five. Are you getting this down?
Let me know. Let me know if this is landing for you. Just write an L in the comments down below.
And it's a lot of stuff. That's why there's that free research report. That's why there is a,
in our premium community, also a whole dashboard on this, right? So when the banks take losses,
what do they do? They tighten lending. They pull back on business loans, mortgages, consumer credit.
So credit gets harder for everybody. And that leads to step number six. When credit tightens,
businesses can't invest. So they stop hiring. They can't grow. Consumers can't spend as much.
The economy slows down. One of the reasons that we've got payroll data in here on our dashboard,
because this is so important, right? Tells you what our business is actually doing. By the way,
there is an explanation for each one of these dashboards, because I appreciate they are not,
you know, necessarily easy to understand. Just click on that and it explains to you what it
actually means for every single one of those. So click into that. It'll, it'll make you,
that's at FelixFrenz.org slash, I actually don't know what the link is. There's a link down below
to it. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll make it really clear in the, in the description or in the comment.
Now, when the economy slows, companies that were struggling anyway, they now start to fail. So we
get more defaults. And what happens? Well, you go back to step one and you repeat the same process
just a little bit more quickly. So how bad could this get? Let's be realistic about it.
I want to be balanced here. Is this definitely going to be 2008? No, nothing is certain.
There are some legitimate arguments that the risk can somehow be contained. At least that's
what JP Morgan says. And in 2007, people also said that subprime mortgages are only about 13%
of the total mortgage market. And it is contained. Don't worry about a thing. And
we all know how the global financial crisis turned out, right? So if this were a baseball game,
and I'm borrowing an analogy because obviously I'm not a baseball player. And, but I've looked
this up and I'd say we're about on the fourth or fifth inning. The boom is over. The bust has
clearly started in credit, but the worst, the seventh, eighth, ninth innings are still ahead
of us. So what do you do about it? Well, guess what? Every crisis creates an opportunity.
So what I've spent the last 20 minutes scaring you, and that's never my intention, but you have
to understand it. And at least you could look at Winston. He was very sweet. Let me give you
the good news because every crisis in history has created enormous opportunities. I remember making
a lot of money 2008, 2009, because I had some smart investment bankers who said, Felix, you
should buy that. That's going to do a lot. And it did. So of course, I'm not a registered financial
advisor. I'm not telling you what to buy or anything like that. But give you maybe a public
example. In 2008, Warren Buffett invested 5 billion to Goldman Sachs at the height of the
panic. And people who bought quality stocks at the bottom of that crash made 300, 400,
500% over the next decade. So the question is not whether there will be opportunity.
The question is whether you know how to find them. So here's what I want you to do. First
of all, join me live on Saturday for a live training on exactly how do we find winning
stocks in this situation. But what you can do, and there's a link down below, felixfranz.org
slash training, it's completely free. Now, if you want to take some action right now,
something you can do right now, log into your 401k or your retirement accounts,
look at every fund that you invested in. If you see the words private credit, direct lending,
alternative credit, senior secured, floating rate or anything like that, dig a little bit deeper.
You can also just take a screenshot, dump it into any AI like a Gemini or something and say,
is this any of this related to private credit? Is there any exposure direct or indirect? And
it'll give you a fairly good answer. I would generally speaking avoid chat GPT. I just think
I was going to say evil. And I think that's exactly the way I describe it. But Gemini seems
to be all right. And then do the same for your target date funds, your annuity, your insurance
funds, all that stuff. Just dump it all into something like Gemini and say, is there any
exposure here direct or indirect? And then remember that there is always a pattern to this.
We have had credit downturns before. And these patterns tend to repeat. Quality tends to win
over risk. Blue chip companies with strong balance sheets and low debt tend to outperform. Cash is
always king. Now, you don't have a lot of cash because inflation is going to erode it. And no,
Warren Buffett does not hold $300 billion in cash. He has it in debt instruments that are
paying quite a lot of interest. But if the credit crunch gets bad enough, the Fed will eventually
cut rates. And what benefits from falling rates? Treasury bonds, which is probably why Buffett's
there. And once you get out of the valley of death, the high risk stuff comes back a lot.
But it can go down pretty nastily from where we are. So you might want to look at how much
high risk stuff you have currently. Think about what Ray Dalio is saying. He's screaming,
buy gold, buy gold, buy gold. Again, I'm not telling you to do that. But there's some sense
in that. But the most important thing is don't predict what's going to happen next. Nobody can.
Be prepared for all the outcomes. Know how to watch the institutional money and where it goes.
And don't be 100% in one thing. So what have we covered here? $2 trillion market showing some
serious cracks. The big boys, the black rock, the black stones, the blue outs are restricting
their investors' ability to get their money back. Default rates have hit record levels.
The smart money is issuing the warning bell. And we might only be in the middle innings of this
credit bust. So follow the fees, not the returns. If the fund manager makes money, whether you do
or not, the incentive is to create a Ponzi. And the good news is that you already understand more
the situation than 95% of return investors. Knowledge is the ultimate hedge. But skills
are what allow you to act properly. And we're going to instill those skills for you on Saturday
at 8 p.m. New York time. I'm going to teach you Wall Street's, I'd say, secret buying rules. That's
really what I call them. They're just two or three. They're very simple to learn. I can teach
them to you in under two hours for sure, hour and a half or so. You can ask me lots of questions.
Winston says, come and join us. Don't you, Winston? Winston, is there any energy left in
that little face of yours? He's so pooped, which is lovely to see. That's always our goal, by the
way. Some people think, oh, he must be really old or something. No, every single morning,
7 a.m., he hits the mountains for a couple of hours with his pack, usually a bunch of dogs,
and they go nuts. Or they just go on a three, four-hour hike. And there are mountains here
and waterfalls and porcupines and pigs and all sorts. And he absolutely loves it. And then he
comes back like this, sleeps for a couple of hours. And then in the afternoon, he's full of
beans again. So there he is. I thank you guys for watching. If you got some value out of this,
share it with some other people. You might benefit from it. I know it's not the sexiest
topic in the world. You prefer me to say, boom is here tomorrow. I ought to make a gazillion
dollars by Tuesday. But we also have to really stick with what's going on in the world. And
there is an opportunity in this. But you need to understand it. So join me Saturday,
FelixRenz at OxlashTrain. Thanks for tuning in.