Last Night on UFOTwitter - Assessment w Dan Zetterstrom - UK Drones

200 years ago, 2,000 years ago. This isn't going to work. She's picking up a massive object in this video. Ships that might be cloaked, I can sense them in my vicinity. So I guess I'm just very tuned in. Vulcan head honcho walks out, ear reveal. Yeah. The crowd goes, oh my God. Was to protect the secrets from the Air Force that were not out there in public. So. Hello everybody. I am back with another KGRA radio last night on UFO Twitter. So tonight we are actually going to be doing a bit of a drone update, but we're also going to be discussing some other stuff happening on UFO Twitter. I hate to be like the bearer of bad news and I hate to be somebody that's, you know, possibly going to be saying controversial things, but the truth is the truth, right? And everybody's truth is, let's say, a little bit more skewed these days. A lot of things are happening, a lot of change. And I don't blame anybody for their own version of the truth, it's just sad when it's, you know, completely bonkers what people are saying these days. And when is the truth, you know, something we want to protect? When is it just one person's truth? Or I just feel like consensus reality is kind of being thrown out the window right now. And I'm a little bit worried about how people may be getting their information and just taking it for granted. You know, like, what can I say? I mean, we don't live in like a perfect world and everybody wants to speak their piece, but the UFO community can be its own worst enemy sometimes. I am having some issues with my computer today. So if you see some video lag, but you hear me, you know, stand by, I'm gonna be connecting to my Twitter space here and I'm gonna pipe in people here, hey, Twitter folks, how's everybody doing? I am bringing in, I'm gonna bring you on to KGRA for the night and we are going to start discussing some information that Dan Zetterstrom has brought to me. But, you know, there's lots of other people out there that probably know this. I just wanted to give a bit of an update. We got people coming into the Twitter space right now and I'm just gonna wait for Andy Marciel, who's one of the co-hosts. I'm gonna invite my friend Jason, who's at UAP Studies as a co-host for tonight. Everybody, if you want to follow a really good YouTube account, check out UAP Studies, fellow Canadian, great guy. We got Dale coming up, Dale's gonna do his thing and kind of discuss, you know, something positive and then we'll just get right into it. Andy, I think I can see him coming in there. Coming in here. Oh boy, lots of interesting things going on, man. Lots and lots. There we go, we got a little disclosure memes there. So, let me just get Andy up here. Are you guys hearing me? Hello? Yeah, we can hear you. You can hear me, okay, cool. So, we're just waiting for Andy, Dale. Let me know if everything's. I hear you. You can hear? Okay, Dale. Brother, why don't you take it away, start off the space with your wonderful words of wisdom as we always do with our shows and then I'm gonna get to some other stuff. That we need to discuss tonight. I would love to. Today's catchphrase is give more and take less. I mean, think about it. It's the season of giving. If you haven't already done it, I'm sure you're in the process of buying Christmas presents for your family members, your loved ones and your friends. But think about this, that's an act of giving. Now, here's how much people gave this time last year. In 2023, 964.4 billion dollars. Was spent on Christmas presents. I mean, think about that. That was like almost a trillion dollars. But it's worth it. I said, it's worth it. How do I know? It's by watching the kids. I love seeing their little eyes light up as they open their favorite toy on Christmas morning. I mean, that's priceless. If that doesn't get to you, nothing will. It's just a reminder to give more and take less. The cool thing about giving is what you get back in return. I mean, it makes you feel so good on the inside. For example, years ago, I was helping a church in Boise, Idaho. And one of the things that we did is we'd take Christmas presents to single parent homes. And it was amazing when we got there and we knocked on the door and the mom would open the door. And the second she saw us, tears would just start running down her face as she realized that there would be presents under the Christmas tree. That the kids would be able to open presents on Christmas morning. Let me tell you something. There's no drug that can give you that feeling. I said, there's no drug that can give you that feeling. Now here's another reason why we need to give more and take less. It helps us to not be selfish or self-consumed. In other words, it's good for us. Now you might be wondering, well, how exactly does that apply to the UAP community? Well, here's an idea. I think we should take a collection for John Kirby, the White House press secretary. I think we need to buy him some hearing aids. For some reason, he's not able to hear what the mayor and the state officials in New Jersey are telling him about these drone incursions. He can't seem to hear. So I think maybe we should take a collection and get him some hearing aids. All kidding aside, how about this? How about the next time you are in a conflict with someone on X? How about you take a pause? How about you even do this? You offer to buy a coffee from Dutch Brothers for them, and then you watch what happens. Remember, it's the season of giving. And so give more and take less. Some of you are wondering, how do we get to disclosure? Maybe the answer is to give more and take less. Maybe, just maybe, those who think we're not ready for disclosure or those who don't think that we can handle disclosure, maybe they'll see that we can. Let's show them that we are ready by giving more and taking less. Give more and take less. I like that message. Look, you can give somebody something and not expect anything back. I think I've probably, just like many people around the world, have given a lot. And I think deep down, everybody kind of expects something back. But to give something to somebody is the truest love language, right? It's your way of saying, I care. And I think everybody here, I think a lot of people that I've surrounded myself with, they do care. Not everybody cares. And some people take and they don't give back. That's fine, no worries. Maybe down the road, they'll see your value and see that you meant well and they'll eventually give back. But I think Twitter is totally screwed up. I think a lot of people are having a hard time connecting to this space tonight. Yeah. I had to come in a couple different times and then the last time it finally worked. Yeah. Yeah, it's cutting in and out for audio. I had issues. I'm not sure if that was on my end or if it was Twitter or what it was, but I wasn't able to hear Dale at first and then I had to come back in. There we go. We got NYUAP discussion coming in here. I'll invite him to co-host or speak. I just want to say hi, everybody. Hey, how's it going, Jace? It's going pretty good, Darcy. I was going to say, because we're in Canada, we don't seem to be having this technical issues. Maybe the drones are affecting everybody's X spaces this evening. Who knows? Twitter is a bag of nuts, man. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but people are hearing us on Facebook right now. We got 175 people tuned in from the interwebs and different locations. Like either it's people showing up on Twitter, people showing up on Facebook, YouTube. There's a few people piping through. And yeah, like, and then we got the peeps here that are in Twitter, on Twitter. Yeah, it's really weird though, just like seeing all the issues. Andy, how you doing, man? What's up? I had to literally start a new account just to join this damn space because it wouldn't let me log in. That's insane. Well, we're glad you're here anyways. So NYUAP discussion, welcome, welcome. The first thing I wanted to kind of discuss is an update I got from Dan Zetterstrom. So Dan, like myself, likes his sleep. He's in the UK. It's probably like two o'clock in the morning or something there right now. So I got him to prerecord a message. And this is about the, remember the Orb video that was recorded over Manchester International Airport not too long ago? Yeah. So that video has been a point of contention in the UFO community for a little while now. And it just so happens that Dan got the inside scoop on that video. He posted on Twitter not too long ago. And like yesterday, basically. And he actually spoke to the pilot that recorded that video from within side of the cockpit. He also had a chance to look at the photo and all that stuff. He got the metadata. So this is actually pretty important because whenever we see UFO footage, it's usually just like TikTok, Instagram, YouTube. And we don't know if that video has been tampered, the source content. We don't know where it's been. There's no, let's say, chain of custody for the history of that video. When you have the metadata, you know the date, time, the location it was recorded and on what kind of device. So I see Carlos's hand there. I'm just about to play the Dan Zetterstrom message. Is there something, Carlos, you wanna talk about real quick? Yeah, Darcy, hi everyone. I just wanted to let you know that there's a lot of people that the space has been glitching and they keep getting kicked out of the room. So should I stop the space and then jump back in or what do I do in this case? That could be a solution, but I mean, I don't know. I don't know what to do in this case. Yeah, mine, it was like the sound was just cutting off completely. It seems like there's been a cyber attack over the weekend too, because Instagram was down, Facebook was down, ChatGPT was down, a whole bunch of other sites were down as well. So yeah, it seems like we're either under a cyber attack or just getting over one. Yeah. So that might be it. Well, all of this stuff that's happening is very relevant. I think there's a lot of stuff going on. I feel like I gotta do this space for KGRA anyways, and we're gonna discuss what we're gonna discuss for the next 50 minutes or so. I'd love to have people jump in and be active, but if they can't, because things are getting really glitchy, maybe I'll just, you know, for the last half of the space, I'll relaunch it. I don't know, but here's the thing. Dan's got a message for us. So I see people jumping in, getting booted out and all that stuff, but I can't really do anything about it right now, just because it would interrupt the flow of the show. Carlos, did you want to tell me one thing there, brother? Is that a glitchy hand? Yeah, it's probably a glitchy hand because I didn't have mine up. Oh, okay. Frig, man. Anyways, I'm gonna play this message from Dan Zetterstrom, and this is regarding the drone over Manchester International Airport, okay? Not too long ago, someone released some photos that a colleague, a pilot, had given him whilst at Manchester Airport. The photo showed a mysterious object on the ground, and there was also a video of the object in the air. The object on the ground was resting on the runway, and the photos were taken from a cockpit of an airplane. It is being discussed whether this photo and video were hoaxed, what they showed, and whether we could even prove if they were real. Skeptics have put forward many, many different solutions, and Manchester Airport eventually issued a statement saying that the photos were, in fact, hoaxed. Once the photos were out, I reached out to the gentleman who posted them, who, after posting them, deleted his account. He was able to send me the original files with the metadata attached, and those files prove unequivocally that the photos are genuine. I can't really speak to what the object is, but I can absolutely say that the photos and the video are real. They are not hoaxed in any way, shape, or form. Now, there's been a lot of discussion around this case because the metadata wasn't provided, and the metadata usually provides things like location and date and time. This kind of clues us into where and when it happened, and it can help with analysis of the photos and videos. In most UFO cases, you wanna see this kind of metadata provided before you start diving in because it's really hard to prove the authenticity of something without it. When the person uploaded these files to the internet, he didn't include the metadata, and that caused a whole bunch of, well, arguing in the community between the usual figures. I just wanted to give this statement to say that they are real. The fact that the person who posted them's account was deleted after the fact doesn't mean they were hoaxed. It simply reflects the fact that the gentleman was concerned for his job. These images garnered a lot of attention. They kind of went into various places like the Daily Mail, and if you can use the metadata to trace back to where and when they were taken, you can figure out the plane, and therefore, who the pilot was, and really narrow it down as to who took them. Now, I'm told that the pilot shouldn't be taking pictures from inside the cockpit, and therefore, the person's job was at risk. So this person was kind of happy for the photos to just go away, really. Something else that the person who provided me the photos addressed was the fact that sometimes in the UFO community, we have a kind of a passion, we'll say, for getting to the bottom of something, and so we want all the details, and we dig in on things really fast. I hadn't really considered it until speaking to this gentleman, but that kind of ravenous appetite, which is caused by the lack of information out there, which isn't the gentleman's fault. This is because of the DoD not being transparent, as we're seeing with the kind of drone flaps in the UK and Germany and America and so on and so forth across USA bases. The lack of information causes that hunger for information to come across as kind of entitled, and I think we should all be a little bit more sensitive towards these experiences and towards people providing media evidence of these experiences. We should be a little more gentle and consider the human on the other side. It's not always about stigma. Sometimes people don't care if it shows a real UFO or an alien or something like that. They just wanna get to the bottom of it, and that was the case in this, in the Manchester Airport object. I know people say, oh, but I'll just say object because I really don't know what it is, photos. But yes, I can absolutely say they are real photos and videos. The person who took them, their job would be at risk if it kind of came out that they were taking pictures while in the cockpit, and the person who posted them kind of just wishes for this to go away. Like I said, it's worth remembering the human angle when we're ravenous for answers. And all the while, bear in mind that though we may have a hunger, it doesn't always entitle us to all the information for various reasons that have nothing to do with hoaxes and stigma around the UFO issue. People just wanna get to the bottom of the mystery, and that's understandable. But piling on and just immediately declaring, it's UAP, it's anomalous, doesn't always help the issue. Anyway, that's all the information I have on that sighting, and thank you for having me. For what it's worth, if this is out of context, the person speaking here, I am Dan Zetterstrom. You'll know me from the breakdown on that UFO podcast and the forthcoming show, What It Means to Be Human. There you have it, folks. So we do have Dan's report on that UFO video. One second, I'm just gonna turn down some of that source audio there. Jason and, I guess, Jason from UAP Studies, your co-host in here, buddy. Do you got the ability to see who's asking to come up and stuff like that? Well, right now, I see, what, there's eight of us that I could see on my screen. I don't see anybody requesting a hands-up, but again, they might be. We might just not be able to see it. Yeah, it's kinda messed up, bro. I have my headphones on, guys. It's truly, I don't know how I'm doing. Yeah, you just glitched out big time. I don't know what you just said, Andy. Are you like on the road? Yeah, he's on the road. Oh, they got him. They got him, the MIBs. All right, so who wants to chat? I mean, Llama Llama, jump up, whatever you want. All right now, can you hear me or no? Yeah, we can hear ya. Does sound like you're in a tunnel. Anyways, it's so weird because when I'm looking on Twitter, I see the Live on X feed on the right, and it says that 213 plus people are in this space right now. And like, you know. I don't see anybody who's not a speaker. I was gonna say the same thing. I don't see anybody who's not a speaker, and it just shows me five people. It's probably, there's probably people listening right now, but you know, we're talking. So if they asked to be a speaker, maybe that's when, I don't know. But anyways, Dan had that update on that Manchester International Airport UFO. What do you guys think of that? I think it's pretty interesting that this pilot actually took that, took that video, took these pictures, but he's just frightened to lose his job. They're not supposed to take that stuff when they're in the cabin, apparently. Especially- Yeah, that's very true. Yeah, especially when they're on the tarmac, probably because they're, you know, they gotta be super aware of other planes and so on and so forth. Dale, I've got your hand up here. What do you think, bud? The one thing I didn't hear, maybe I missed it, but I wanted to add that there's some confusion, and it was brought up, I heard him speaking yesterday, and that was that this is, that the sphere that was seen in Westminster or whatever the name of the place was, that was a couple months ago. Okay. That wasn't at the same time as the drone sightings, and so that's one of the misinformation that he wanted to make sure that he clarified. I didn't hear it when he talked about it this time, and so I wanted to make sure I covered that, that this is not related to the drone incursions. Right. So something, I was on a space with Jace earlier today, and Digby, who does the Man on the Run podcast, quite eloquently stated that November 20th to November 26th of this year is when this drone incursion activity really started to kick off in a big way, and that was in the UK. That was over Royal Air Force Lake and Heath, Royal Air Force Middle Hall, Mildenhall, and the Royal Air Force Feltwell, and Fairford air bases. So if we look at what actually happened in chronology historically, we launched, like the US and the UK, they launched ballistic missiles into Russia just before that from Ukraine, and Russia said that they were going to retaliate. Today, we just killed the Russian, like, biologics and nuclear warfare general. There was an attack, and they blew up a building he was in. So- It was a scooter. Yeah, it was a scooter. Or a scooter. It was a scooter. Yeah, it was a scooter, and the scooter was near, it was about a few blocks away from the presidential palace, and it's absolutely crazy what they did. I mean, that could have turned way worse than just killing one general. Yeah, but I think the point is, though, Aaron, is that we are basically in the midst of what seems like a war, okay? And everybody's quite aware of the drone situation. We are getting drones. There are man-made drones all over the United States being sighted right now. There have been announcements from officials. We have heard an announcement from, I think it was the CBP, and that, like an intelligence agency said yesterday that there are no weapons of mass destruction lost or loose that these drones are sniffing for, right? They wouldn't disclose that either way. That would be information that's not, okay, I can't. Well, Berchak said that it wasn't true. Yeah, I think we're getting a lot of communication from people now that that is a rumor. And straight up, over the weekend, I was getting information that it was possible, and I was sending it to friends because I was scared, worried about where things could go. Andy, could you mute your mic, brother? I'm sorry, I was just gonna say, Kat, please raise your hand before you speak. I have been raising my hand. It's not appearing. It's all good, it's all good, don't worry about it. So I'm just trying to discuss all these things. But at the same time that we're seeing all these drones over New Jersey, Nevada, Arizona now, everywhere, it's just happening all across the United States, I'm getting friends sending me videos from Australia on Instagram and stuff like that. What is happening, in my opinion, is we are basically at war. And it seems that there's the media trying to prevent an outright panic of this situation by getting out to the general public and basically markets crashing, business world being worried. But at the same time that all this stuff is happening, I think the drone activity would be, look, here's the truth. These days, we have aircraft carriers, we have ballistic long-range missiles and thermal nuclear warheads that can be launched from submarines and all that stuff. But the truth is the military is starting to literally invest in less of that super dinosaur, big budget military equipment. And they're going after drone tech, satellite tech, lasers, like space-based warfare stuff. This is the honest truth. That is- That's- Plasma balls. I don't even know if plasma, like, so I'm convinced- In 2020, there's an article on it. I'm convinced- I can show you it. I'm sure, I'm sure that they're using all kinds of different warfare means, but I'm just saying they can put their money into drone warfare tech, and that goes so much further right now because it's lower cost. It's unmanned. It can be flown autonomously and pre-programmed to carry out certain objectives from a computer terminal and come right back to where it flew off from and get recharged to do its next mission, right? I don't even know if you need drone operators these days. Probably for some models, you do. So I'm just throwing out my opinion of that situation. I also think it's very possible that because people are looking at the sky so much now, they're so focused on all this drone activity that they're seeing real UAPs. They're seeing UFOs. I mean, if you're going to be turning your eyes to the sky that much, you're going to notice more things, right? You're gonna notice satellites. You're gonna notice planes. You're gonna notice weird-looking drones. So on top of that, we also have a bit of hysteria where people are literally seeing planes or seeing satellites or seeing drones and they're calling it aliens or whatever, right? I believe there are extraterrestrials. I believe there is non-human intelligence. I'm fully with the community on that, right? But I think that just like Dan was saying in his message, Dan Zetterstrom, we're kind of becoming our own worst enemy at ruling out certain things and going with the strongest evidence. I mean, people have been saying that this is the Project Bluebeam playbook, right? Dude, we are at war with Russia right now, the West, okay? It has nothing to do... All of that drone activity, this is how wars are gonna be fought in the future and this is how you're gonna protect your country and protect your land, your ground, your air. Drones are gonna be thrown up in swarms all around countries to protect. May I say something, Darcy? Yeah. Well, as a veteran, I'm really pissed off that none of our politicians have... I mean, they're all saying different things. They're different narratives. And Bert Shedd just recently, yeah, I get it that we're probably at war with Russia dead on, but Bert Shedd just said, I think it was yesterday, that the Chinese have bought up a lot of land close to our bases here. How the hell have we permitted that in the first place? That is a major failure and I fear that a lot of this obfuscation and a lot of dishonesty that's coming from the government is them trying to protect themselves from us finding out their failure in basically their very first task, which is our protection. How can you let an enemy buy land close to our defenses, close to our bases? That's crazy. Yeah. It's insane. I'm glad you brought that up. I'm sorry, Darcy. I just want to say something really quick. I'm glad you brought that up because, I mean, I don't think a lot of people are really paying attention to that. And I don't want to sound like a fear monger or conspiracy theorist with what I'm about to say, but I almost get the impression like someone is allowing it to happen. You understand? I think they damn well know that Chinese are buying all this land out and it's being allowed to happen because it's obvious they're the enemy. It's obvious they're not our ally. So why would you allow it? You understand? The fact that it has been happening to me smells like it's been allowed to happen and it's been allowed to get to this point. I would agree with you on that. I think why it's been allowed to happen is purely for profit. Like the greed economy. We want to sell as much as we can. Sell the shirt right off your back if it's going to make you a good amount of money. And so I think it's not just in the United States. Jason probably even knows this. In Canada, China got busted because they were buying all these companies in Canada which own large parts of land and strategic resources. So for example, Canada, we provide a ton of potash which is an integral ingredient to create really powerful fertilizer around the world and fertilizers make our crops and we grow our food. And so it's part of that whole process to supply the world with potash. Well, in Saskatchewan, the province of Saskatchewan, Chinese companies have been flooding in and buying all the potash companies and kind of taking over the potash strategic reserve of this part of the world. There's three other places in the world that they produce potash in large amounts. And the Canadian government kind of said no. And I think they even took the companies and took the land back and said, you can't do this. We also had, I don't know if people heard about this. You can look this up. The Canadian government busted China because at one point they were setting up their own police stations within Canada secretly. And they were going after wealthy people or people of influence or fugitives of the law from their own country that had fled to Canada. And they were basically committing their own external arrests within our country. Oh yeah, policing within Canada. It was Chinese government policing within our own country. Yeah, so you guys can say whatever you want about Trudeau. It's fine, everybody loves to hate him, but he exposed that. And there's a Canadian intelligence group or service that's kind of like our FBI, CSIS. They exposed that to the government and then the government started outlawing and kicking these Chinese nationals out of our country that were setting up police stations that were basically Chinese national intelligence agents operating and setting up serious intelligence business within Canada. So look, we've talked about that. The drone issue to me is threefold. It is one, partly to do with something that's going on internationally in terms of world power conflict. I think it's true. I'm not saying that there is like a loose nuclear bomb or something like that. I hope to hell there isn't, because I did, it's part of the historical record that 20 nukes went missing in Ukraine and intelligence agencies apparently still don't know where those are. And that was back a couple months back now. So you can look that up, but you got Ryan Graves going on, Joe Rogan. He's saying he's talked to all the who's who in intelligence and border security and weapons, anti weapons of mass destruction, security and stuff. And they're all telling him that's just a bad rumor. It's not true. I hope he's right. I hope they were telling him the truth. I hope they know. But I think, I still think the drone situation is a symptom of something they don't want us to know. Is it they're searching for UAPs in the sky that we're having a UAP incursion? Are they UAVs from another country? People have denied that. They've said no to that, but we know they're up there and everybody's taking this video footage of it and it's becoming a serious problem. So, you know, let's just keep it real and be honest about the situation and not like super delusional. I feel like that it goes there sometimes. Can I say something, Darcy? Yeah, somebody look at the hands for me and let me know what's going on. Yeah, go for it, Kat. So if the US was to acknowledge that this was China, we would be at war with China. So they're playing this kind of game where it's a balancing act of transparency and also watching these drones in the sky. And this is my speculation, that they're using orb technology, which is reverse engineered technology from NHI or plasma balls to take out these drones in the sky. We saw several videos, some out of New Jersey, some out of, I think it was Arizona, where there's these orbs shooting drones out of the sky. And I think there was also a video that came out in the UK as well, that was very similar. So over the weekend, a lot of people are unaware too, we actually had a major cyber attack that took off Facebook, Instagram, chat GPT and a number of other services. So that's following the Chinese dragging a anchor for miles. I think it was like 100 miles or something like that to basically destroy a underwater cable, internet cable. And there's a lot of other things that have been happening with the Chinese and the US in the South China Sea. So there's been a lot of incidents that have happened over the period of the last couple of months that people aren't aware of. With the Philippines, and there was a ramming of a ship a few months ago. It was, I think it was a cargo ship. There's all these kind of escalations that are happening. Yeah. And a few months ago, China and Russia did a joint flyby, I guess, above the US in Antarctica. And they scrambled jets after that happened. So it's not out of the realm of possibility for these to be Chinese drones. And I said this last week that I had talked to a source who I used in my promise series. He's a former state department guy, and he said China as well. And that was about a week ago. So I believe that these are China, but there is missing nuclear material that is cited that happened on December 2nd here in New Jersey. Really? Yeah, I did hear about that, but then everybody's saying that that's not true. Well, it is true. What I heard was it was a medical device and it does not have the potential. That's what Birchette and that scientist said. So I don't know if that's the exact same thing, but I know they said it really didn't have any major threat that whatever that letter was that came out, if you read it all the way through, if that's the same thing, I think we need to make sure that that's clear. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably the same thing. But I mean, it's also possible that these drones have radiological material on them. There was a spike in radiation. Like there was a, you can view kind of the radiation over different states and there was a spike in North Jersey and New York. So something's going on there. Okay. So Christian, I think your hand's up there, bud. Do you want to say something? Hey, Darcy, sorry to kind of break the flow. I just want to let you know that a lot of people are trying to join to listen into the space and they're getting kicked out as listeners. So the space is a bit glitched. I was having that trouble when people are messaging me, asking me why they can't stay, keep saying space closed out. Yeah, yeah. I know that is feedback I've gotten. I've got all these people messaging me about that. I honestly have about nine minutes left on KGRA. So I think after the nine minutes, I'll try and like reboot the space. What do you guys recommend? Do I just like close the space or close Twitter and jump back in and hit reconnect? Close and reboot. Yeah. Or do I end the actual space? I would end it. Just end it and start another one. All right. So there's some other stuff we could definitely talk about. And I think it is kind of important. Andy, did you want to kind of bring up the next topic for discussion? I mean, I'm not sure if you guys heard what Ryan Graves is saying on Rogan in regards to the new thing. He also stated that he spoke to some sources of his that would have been the ones investing time into researching and investigating if this was true. And he stated that basically they told him that that wasn't the case. So I don't think this is a nuclear thing. I have heard that the sniffers that are supposedly out in Jersey are there because there was something legitimate seen in the skies. And I mean, this is what I was told from one of my sources and that that's why they were there. They were actually trying to see where or what it was that was up in the sky during that time. But one thing I was telling Darcy earlier, I think it was yesterday, was that the hysteria part of this is I think important because it kind of gave us a glimpse of exactly what would happen in the event of an actual scenario where let's just hypothetically speaking, these things actually present themselves. If the public reacted in this way with just this situation, I have a real good feeling we're really not prepared for an actual event when the time comes that these beings or whatever they are decide they wanna present themselves. But I guess we could talk about that after this portion ends. Yeah, yeah, totally. Actually, I was just gonna chime in. The part that scares me the most is they have a F, what was it, an F-16, F-22, highest, the best the money can buy for a jet. This guy gets surrounded by three orbs and they dictate where he can and cannot go. They control the flight. Only three, four feet away from his cockpit and whatever he did, they mirrored it instantly as if they're locked into his mind. Again, Michael Schoenberg or Schoenberger was talking about an incident that took place on a warship where everybody on deck was mesmerized and could not move and just watched this orb above this military ship. So really the military ship is completely useless if all of your people on board are just in a trance. So it humbles us to the point of saying that we can do anything about it. The Hollywood films like Independence Day, that's a load of crap and that is never gonna happen. We are at the bottom of the totem pole here, unfortunately, but seeing the incompetence of the administration that's currently in power, that's the part that to me is the biggest offense is how inept are these people? They can't even get anything done. One says one thing, one says the other. They don't know whether they're coming or going and what's happening is gonna cause that hysteria that Andy was talking about. It is gonna create trust or lack of confidence in our governments because now we're not getting the answers we believe they had this whole time and they're playing stupid or, I don't know, I don't quite know what the plan here is, but the states have never looked more bad than they do right now. Honestly, I think this is- Agreed. Yeah, I think this is kind of like, it's just control. It's like information management, social control. I think people should be a little bit worried right now because if everybody's seeing all this activity in the sky internationally right now and the powers that be are constantly saying there's nothing to see here, nothing to worry about, that seems like a cop-out and that seems like a very dangerous thing to be doing. Considering you have Putin vowing to strike back, you have China at his back and they've surrounded Taiwan. North Korean soldiers sent to Ukraine and it's escalating, everything is escalating. The escalation has gotten to a point where we see things flying around our skies and they're still saying, don't worry, there's nothing to worry about. I would be worried. I think that's the worst part is that it's gotten to that point where we just don't trust a damn thing that they say because it's been this way for so long and people are now, people have finally woken up to it and I think it's largely in part due to the internet. It allowed people to have access to a vast array of information. So I think it got to the point where they're now understanding, they're losing the control that they thought they had with the public, which is why we're at where we're at. There's basically nothing, I mean, literally every time they speak, all I hear is lies. It just, you can't trust them anymore and that's not a good thing. Yeah, I agree. So guys, what are you thinking? Cat has his hand up and then myself. Yeah, yeah, Ken, go for it. Cat. Yeah, so there's also the fact that Russia walked back their ambassadorship with the US and all their ambassadors left the US and I think it was September or October of this year and then they did not replace their ambassador. That's not normal activity. That's like wartime stuff. And that was after the Biden administration authorized Ukraine to bomb inside of Russia with long range missiles. So you're kind of seeing like a crescendo effect of everything happening at once. And it's not only Taiwan with China, it's also the Philippines and the South China Sea and kind of that whole entire situation that's been going back and forth since the Obama administration. And it's escalated and I think we're getting to a point, I think what's happening now is a warning. I think it's a warning to the US and the West that we have advanced drones, we have possibly NHI reverse engineered tech that they're using that is being used to send a warning message to the West. Could be very true. I mean, it's one of these situations where you don't know till, like I feel like it's gonna be one of these situations where they're not gonna be announcing it on the news or from the government until it's too late, like till there's actually battles going on over your skies. You know what I mean? That's what I'm worried about. I mean, my question is what needs to happen before the United States actually take some kind of action? Like it didn't make sense like with the whole balloon situation. Like, I mean, what are they waiting for before something actually gets done when things like this occur? You know what I mean? It's just to me, I don't understand what the fear of engagement is. Like, just doesn't make any sense to me. You know, it just makes us look like a bunch of pussies, honestly. Fair enough. I mean, I think that is a fair assessment. I'm gonna go off KGRA. I'm playing my outro here. So give me a sec here. 200 years ago, 2000 years ago. This isn't going to work. She's picking up a massive object in this video. Ships that might be cloaked, I can sense them in my vicinity. So I guess I'm just very tuned in. Vulcan head honcho walks out, ear reveal. Yeah. The crowd goes, oh my God. Was to protect the secrets from the air force that were not out there in public. So. Okay. Let's see if we can try and fix this Twitter thing. I'm gonna close the app. Stay here, guys. I'm gonna try and jump back in and see if that removes these glitches. Give me a sec. Hey. What's talking about? How's it going, everybody? Is this, is this? Yeah, because like I said, it's live at the beginning. Afterwards, ----, all hell can break loose. But just because of that, you know, it just doesn't sound good, you know, on live when people are cutting in, that's all. Hey guys, I'm gonna end this. I can see it now, yeah. Can you guys, can you guys hear me? I'm gonna end this session. I would end this face, Darcy. Yeah, I know. It sucks that this has turned out this way. But I'm gonna end it and we will go from here.