Rebuilding The Pro Player In A Wurlitzer Rave On CD Jukebox... Finally Fixed It!

Ladies and gentlemen, this is Joe's Classic Video Games back with another cool jukebox repair video for you this evening. We are working on a Wurlitzer Raveon jukebox. But wait a minute, you probably don't have a Wurlitzer Raveon jukebox. If you've got a CD, a modern CD jukebox, almost all of them have the same CD player in them. And we're going to work on that today. So if you have a Rowe jukebox, which is much more common, if you have a Rockola Legend, something like that, all of these have similar CD players. So we're going to work on that today. And if that's your machine, hopefully some of this will be applicable to you. So the problem that we're having on this box, we got this from a gentleman a while back, and we've got the mechanism working where you can make a selection and it picks up the CD and tries to play it, but we get an error code on the pro player down on the bottom. So I'll show you what it's doing. There is a zero down there. You see that? I'm going to try to play a CD and you can see what happens. So let's do disc four, track six. So it goes up, grabs the CD. Again, your setup will be a little different probably. And then we get an eight error code. We get a popping noise. Sounds horrible. There's an eight. It spins it a little bit and then it stops. You get another popping noise. Yours may pop, may not. Basically the reason it's popping is because it's turning the amplifier on and off. Unmuting it. Spins around. Nothing happens. No matter what CD you try, it'll do the same thing. Eventually it gives up and stops giving you the eight error code. That eight, according to the manual, means that there is a table of contents error, which basically means that it can't even try to read the CD. So it's trying to read it and it can't even read the table of contents. So typically that means you've got a problem with your pro player. So we're going to have to take that out of there, see what it is, and see if we can actually replace the laser in it. Hmm, that'll be fun. So the first thing I'm going to do on this particular model, and it's different on each model, on the Rose, it's right there where you can get to it. On this particular one, we have the, they call this the sledge on the Wurlitzer, on this tower setup. These are the German made Wurlitzers. I basically have to move that out of the way so that I can get to that pro player. So let me do that. You just literally turn the machine off and move it out of the, out of the way by hand, the best I can tell according to the manual. And then we'll see what's holding this pro player in place. Okay, folks, so here it is after removing it. Now on this particular machine, there was a screw in each corner that held the whole piece down and we had three plugs. One here and two here. I believe this is a CDM-12. Let's see if it tells me. It says VAU-12-52-0-0-0. I am not a, well, no, here we go. CD Pro version 2.6. Mm-hmm. So the hope is that our, that I have an optic for it. Now, it doesn't necessarily mean that the it could be that the, this board is bad. And if you look, it's even a little scorched right there. So I don't like the looks of that. There's a capacitor on the other side. Basically, if it's a board, there's nothing I can really do about it. You can send these off and have them repaired by reputable companies. I have seen them. I can't really suggest any of them though, because I don't, I haven't really ever used any of them. This is another one I've got. That is a CDM-12, but I believe this one had the, the board swapped off of a different model or something. So I don't think this one works at all. So these are my parts that I've got. And I'm going to try to make, make work. I wonder if there is a date where I can tell for sure. See, this one actually says Phillips CDM-12 on it. But again, I think it had the wrong bottom board swapped onto it. This one, VAU-1252. So I don't know. Again, I am not an expert at this. We're just going to see what we can accomplish. It says CD Pro, so I would assume that's a CD Pro. The way I understand it, there was the CDM-3, the 4, and then the 12, and then the Pro Player, which may be this one, and then the Pro Player 2, the CD Pro 2. And I believe that they're all compatible. The 12, the Pro, and the 2 basically supersede each other. So we'll see. So, if we can figure out how to get those apart, I actually have a new laser assembly here. This is what we may end up swapping. Well, we're definitely going to end up swapping it, because I've got to try it, unless the one that's in there is completely different and it won't work. But we'll see. I also have a used one here that I think I figured out worked or something. I can't remember why I saved the used one, but I did. It definitely looks like a used one. Okay, so we're going to attempt to take this sucker apart and put this new laser in it. So, step one, I have no clue. I need to get that plate off of there. Can I do that from the back? Yes, I can. So, it looks like on this one, and again, this is a little different setup, because it's in the Whirly, which is a little bit different than it always were. So, that screw down in there and that screw down in there, it looks like we'll take this black plate off the top, and then it should say on the actual aluminum what exact brand that is. So, let me pop that off. Not brand, what exact model number. They're all Philips players. Let me pop that off and let's see what it says. So, that's what was under it. It does not say what it is, but this is a CDM-12. It's much bigger, but the Pro Players are this exact same size. So, I don't know. I guess maybe the early Pro Player ones had this bracket with it that made it the same size. Whatever. We're going to get down into it, and then we'll figure out once we get down into it if I've got the right looking laser, and if I do, we'll go through with it. Okay, so next up, for my next trick, we need to remove the board. There are one, two, three, four screws here that take like a Torx bit. So, I'm going to go get a Torx bit, and we'll pop this board off. Okay, so the screws were all T10, and I was actually just able to take them loose by hand with a bit. They were tight, but I was able to make it happen. T10. Okay, so now you have the ribbon cables to worry about, but it's no big deal. Don't sweat it. So, it's the type where you have to pull these little releases forward, and once you get a little bit of space, the ribbon will pull all the way out. So, this one does say CDM-12, but on the back, it says CD Pro version 2.6, but I think the CDM-12 actually is a pro player. It's all very confusing, and it made it very, very confusing. Let's find the place that's heated up. You see, so there's a heat spot right there, and on the other side, there is a surface mount capacitor. A 330 microfarad capacitor, six volt. There's also an adjustment right there. I'm not going to mess with that adjustment. It says EBU, whatever that means. So, basically, we've separated the brains from the mechanics, and so we're hoping that our problem is on this, because if the problem's on that, not much I can do about it. You'd have to try to get another one of those. Yeah, it's going to be tough. They don't make them anymore. That's the main problem. The optics, they do still make, but they're Chinese crap. But it's better than a broke one, so that's what we're going to try to do. Okay, so there was a trick to these. I figured out last time I messed with one. Let's see if I can remember said trick. I think the trick is basically, I need to start taking the screws loose. There was a way to do it without taking all of them out, but I don't remember. If you look, basically, it comes with the whole setup. Okay, and see how these hook under the rail that's down in there? And on this side, you've got this long piece here. It's geared teeth. That's what we're trying to do. Okay, so I think it's unfortunate that it's all the way that way. If we can get it all the way that way, we'd be better off. Let's see if turning this does it. I believe it will. We're moving, people. We're moving. And by the way, static electricity, I'm sure, is a horrible thing. So whenever you do yours, you take all the static precautions you want to take. Go ahead and chain yourself to the ground. I'm in South Carolina. There's a ton of humidity. We don't get much static. If you are in a more less humid climate, you may get tons of static. The only static I get is people bitching on YouTube that I'm not doing it right. And I get a lot of that. I'm sure some of you are getting your keyboard fingers ready right now to tell me how wrong I am. Okay, so we got that moved a little bit. Now, basically all that's holding this in is this little plastic piece and then the two rails. The way I figured out before was there's a way to actually do it where one of the rails you don't have to take out. Why don't we just take all four rails out? It's not going to be the end of the world. So yeah, let me figure out what Torx bit that is and then we'll start popping some of that stuff off. So T6 seems to have done the trick. That frees up that side. On this side, I think the bar actually goes through that side, this side, so you can't do it. Okay, so I'm just going to loosen the little hole down there and loosen the little hole down there and then I think I can move them out of the way and pull the whole beam up. Okay, so I took this one off and just moved that one like we talked about and then I gently pulled it up and it came up light as a feather. And whenever it came up, it left that down in there, which I don't know if that should have been like that. That was just laying in there. Okay, and this one came all the way out. Now if you look, see the little pieces of plastic on the end of the rail? You have to pull those off so that you can get the rail out of there and install it on the new one. So let's compare this old one with our new one. We've got a number here. 7-1-1-0-7-0-5-1-1-V-O-0-5-7-2. That's what our part number was, I guess. The chip is upside down. It is a TDA1302T N72EK9 HFH97401. Now I have heard that the reason we can still get these is because they fit other items. So there are other CD players from the 90s that use this same exact setup. So here is our new one. Looks almost identical. TDA1302T. Now is that exactly what we were just looking at? Yes, it is. Now that says right on it 20-0-4. No, what does that say? It's hard for me to read it through the camera. 29-0-4-93. I'm wondering if this is one I pulled out of one of the other ones. Hmm. Hmm. Boy, it sure looks new. And it's got the little thing on the end of it. I really shouldn't be handling it this much. 3067EF20. 3067EF20. These things are very similar. Well, I don't know man and woman. This thing might be used. I may have pulled it out of another one which means our odds of fixing it with this one may be lower than I wanted. We're going to see what we can do. I'm pretty sure this one I definitely replaced. So if that other one doesn't do it, I can always take this one out. Okay, so we're going to take this one, we're going to swap the rail over to that one, and then pop it back in. Yeah, I see see how this one the rail is kind of held in there by that little piece of metal to give it the ability to flex. Okay, so we'll see what we can do. Okay folks, so we got it all back in there. It's really just four screws. Okay, that one, that one, that one, and that one. But you kind of need it in the middle. Whenever they ship them, they have this little clip on it. The reason for that is because it's static. It's like I was poo-pooing earlier. So with that clip on there, what it's basically doing is grounding all of those pins on the other side. I can't tell if that's used or not. I cannot tell. Okay, so you leave it on there the last second, and then I'm going to slide it in the connector, and we're able to put the board back on it. Okay, so we got it all back in. I don't know if that's a used one or not, or if I figured out that one was still fine, so I kept it. If that's not a new one, the one in that one is, so I can take it out. But that's what we're going to do. I'm going to put the plate back on it, and then we're going to pop it back in the machine and see if we get the same error, or if we get a different error, or nothing happens, or what's the deal man. All right folks, well believe it or not, you have been in the past. Welcome to the future, which is actually the current, but it's the future from where you just were. So the video before this one, and the one that you just watched, we filmed years ago. We got this machine in several years ago, and I wasn't too familiar with the CD ones, so I messed around with it a little bit. You saw on the video where we put a new laser, basically an optic in the Pro Player, and then we put it back in, and it just did the same thing. So messed around with it a little bit. We have a shop here in Rock Hill, South Carolina, that is full of arcade games and video games, and we get a few jukeboxes. So all that to say, this thing sat around for quite a while, and we got such a good deal on it, and I really like the name of it, the Rav1 jukebox, because it's like a Buddy Holly thing, you know. So we've had it sitting around the shop not working for years. You may have caught it in the background of some of our other videos. Well, the other day I decided, hey, let me work on that jukebox a little bit. So I got it out, I started messing with it, and I found before that sometimes if you've got a problem that you can't figure out on repairing something, if you just wait until you forget what you were doing, a lot of times when you go back, you look at it a different way, and you're able to fix it. So let me show you why I was able to fix it, because it's up and running. We got in some of these Legend, Rock Hollywood Legend jukeboxes, and someone has turned it off in the middle of a song. These people were in here like plugging it in and unplugging it and stuff anyway. So someone's turned it off in the middle of the song, but the way these CD players work, the pro players, is that see that little round thing on the top? That's actually a magnet. So it clamps down on top of the CD to hold the CD in place as it's spinning. If you don't have that, the CD has nothing to keep it from just flying off of the spindle. So that magnet fits through that hole in that orange flap, and when that flap comes down, the magnet centers itself over the spindle and kind of clamps in place. And then it spins inside that orange thing the whole time that the CD player is spinning. So that magnet is magnet attached to the spindle, the turntable. So as the turntable is spinning, that thing is spinning the whole time. So we've had a couple of these legends, and the last one that I had in had an issue where that thing rubbed. So it made a noise. So you could hear it going because it wasn't quite centered. So the whole time it was spinning, it was rubbing against that orange flap. So I adjusted it, and there was an adjustment in the manual for it. Well, the other day when I started working on this one, I was like, where were we? What were we doing? So I got it to spin a disc again, and it was making the same noise. That's not good, right? So I thought, you know, that can't be, that can't really be the laser. That might be the rails that the laser rides on, but that's not the actual laser on the Pro Player. That sounds more like that magnet on top of it. So on this particular one, you see where it says Wurlitzer Tower there? That is the magnet. It's inside that little clamp. So I took that whole thing apart and messed with it. And when I did that, I found something strange. See those two screws in the back? Well, do you see that little hole right there? Underneath that hole is a screw, and it's just the head of the screw kind of sticking out underneath that. It actually looks just like that, right? So if you take a little tiny flat screwdriver, a regular screwdriver, and put it in that hole and turn to the right, you lower that screw head. And whenever you do that, it lowers that Wurlitzer Tower logo down closer to the Pro Player. And when you turn it the other way, since this whole thing's plastic, it raises that Wurlitzer Tower thing relative to the Pro Player. So all that to say, it was making a bunch of noise because the little magnet inside of there, like the one over there on the Rockola, was rubbing against what it's mounted in. So I took a screwdriver and I turned that screw a little bit to raise it up slightly. And as I turned it, when it got to the perfect spot, it stopped making any noise and the jukebox started playing the song. So we've been playing with it for about two weeks now, just listening to it, and it worked great. So the whole problem was a little tiny screw on that mount for the magnet. Now there may have been other issues. Maybe the Pro Player was messed up and putting a new lens in it fixed that, but all I know is it's working now. So let me show you a couple other little things about this box and then I'll show you it kind of doing its thing. I can't play the songs for you though because YouTube won't let me play copyrighted songs, which is anything that's ever been on the CD pretty much. If you want to see this thing actually playing, if you go to our Patreon channel, there's a link down below. On Patreon, I can upload songs and if they copyright strike it and all that, you still get to watch it. So on YouTube though, if they copyright strike it, they run ads on it, take all the money, and then won't even show it in some places. So it just doesn't work on YouTube, but it'll be on Patreon. So the link is down below. But let me show you a couple other little things on the Jukebox and then we'll play it a little bit. Okay, so I'm going to show you what it does when you turn it on. Let me slide it out a little bit. Reach it. Alright, so when you turn it on, the computer is going to come up and it basically does like a little initialization thing. So the tower goes up, comes back down, and it stops right at the CD player. Now the way that it does that is there are little optics. Let me see if I can see where it's at. We've got this cover on here, but you can't see it as well. Yeah, that right there. So that is a little optic. You see there's a little blade in the middle of it? That's how it tells that it's in the right spot. There's also one on the left and one on the right as that moves back and forth to grab the CD. I'll show you that too, just how it does that. And I'll show you it put the thing on the turntable and start spinning. I just can't show it playing much. Let's see here. Let's get in disc 22. You hear how quietly it spins? So I'll show you it canceling. I mean it's actually a really efficient way to do it. They have to figure out some way to move the CD or move the turntable. Now if this was a 100 disc box, there would be another stack of them over here on the left. A magazine there. And it's set up where it can do that. It's just a 50 disc so they're all on the right. This thing has a bunch of kind of strange options though. One of the options is you can put I think 20. Is it 20? I think you can put 10 backup music CDs in it that are also accessible. And I think it can do autoplay where it just plays non-stop the backup music but then you can also pick from the regular CDs. But for whatever reason there's 10 CDs. Basically the ones from 50 to 60 are just for background. The bill acceptor works fine. Didn't have to do anything to it but of course it's outdated. It'll just take the old bills. You may have seen on the earlier video that I had a whole bunch of wire hanging out of the back because they had moved the volume control where they could mount it remotely. And so I took all that apart put the cable back together and just made it the short normal size cable that plugs in right there. And that is actually it mounted right there. I'll show you on the back whenever we slide it out. I had the toughest time with this center gas spring. This thing is a 250 pound gas spring which is way too strong. So I ordered a hundred pound gas spring. I couldn't find any kind of information online about what strength it was supposed to be. The hundred pound one isn't strong enough to lift it up. So figure out what you want. So what I did was I just put a chain over here that kind of hooked the thing into place whenever it's down and holds it down. The door will actually hold it down but the problem is it's kind of riding on the door whenever you do that. So whenever you open it the thing tries to come up with it and everything. It's just not that great of a solution. This thing also has a really weird free play. The free play is it gives you 47 credits and the way that you do it it's in the manual. The manual actually is online too so you can you can get a rave on manual online. Let's see where it says GP. If you put a jumper from zero to F that sets it on free play but it only gives you one credit and then the B5 from 0 to 2, 0 to 3, 0 to 4, 0 to 5, 0 to 6 gives you 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 credits. If you put it from 0 to 7 and 0 to F on GP that gives you 47 free credits every time you turn it on. So you can turn it on you can turn it off and back on you got another 47 credits. Why they did it like that I have no clue. I don't think they really intended to do it exactly like that. It's probably just a limitation of how they had designed the the hardware. The thing sounds fantastic. Again I'll put a video up of it playing something down on the Patreon channel down below. Let me show you kind of how the the display how this stuff works. So these there's five or six actually six triangle shaped they call them prisms in the manual. Six prisms with three CD room for three CDs on each one and you know it says disc numbers the first two digits track numbers the next two digits. We just used the same cards that we used in the Rockola Legends and typed them up. You have to go into the setup all this is in the manual again and tell it that this is a hundred that there are a hundred discs on this because since that includes the odds and the evens but this particular box only uses the evens. Whenever you hit the the thing to turn the pages and both of the buttons move it down you can't move it up but there are only three sides because they're like triangular and then at the end here these four aren't used so you can just put whatever you want on that I guess. The only animation is this little thing there's a little motor turning a little pinwheel and if you look I thought this was interesting on the coin slot they have put a slit in the top of it so that presumably in the dark the coin slot will change color because of that pinwheel. Why they did it why they went through all that trouble I don't know but it's kind of cool. We cleaned it up the best we could let me slide it around so you can see the remote volume on the back. So if you saw it before there were a bunch of cord a bunch of wire hanging out of here that was all looped up and everything all it was was five wires that were extending this out so that you could mount it somewhere and they had this cover here still mounted there but the box that's inside they had outside so that they could screw it to the wall or something over by the the bartender or something. So after I messed with it a little bit I was able to figure out how it went back in there and the same exact box will just mount inside. That bottom switch is for two channel or stereo and then you have a left volume and a right volume and then the top button is a cancel button power switch right above it. So it's just a cool little box. I like these these german-made brulettes. Let's see if it gives us a date or something. It's been so long since I filmed the first video I'm not sure. Type cdi 84. It wouldn't be uh that's the part number it wouldn't be from 84. I would guess 91-92 if I was gonna guess. 98 it's newer than I thought. That makes sense because it's got the pro player. Made in Germany. Very cool. All right well that is that. I guess I'll show it to you starting the song and then I'll put the whole thing on Patreon. Oh I could show you I could show you how it looks with the lights off. That's the best part. Somebody's gonna have this in their home game room and they're gonna love it. You might not be able to tell on the camera but the light on the cds down there at the bottom is actually multi-colored and again it's kind of overdriven but this has kind of a prismatic effect. And you can kind of see that you know the coin slot lights up a different color but uh it also the bulbs have like a purple cover on them um which matches the purple on the side or the pink I guess you might say pink purplish pink um but really cool look I think. Beautiful jukebox and I hate to say it I'm gonna say it on this video I might not say it on the other one it sounds a little bit better than that rockola legends that's just my opinion. Now there's no speakers up top everything's down here so um I'll show you just how quiet I wonder if there's nothing in here I can play that won't get blocked. I guess what I could do is try one and just see if if it plays any of it. It will go so loud that you can't get near it uh with it that loud. I'm 80 feet away and I can hear just fine here and we're at like five.