Megyn Kelly is joined by Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief of National Review, and Charles C.W. Cooke, senior writer of National Review, to discuss the ridiculous backlash to the UFC event at the White House, a Resistance historian claiming it's actually about racism, Sheryl Crow's absurd comments, and more.
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The video discusses the polarized reactions to a UFC event held on the White House lawn during the Trump administration. While supporters view the event as an outreach to working-class Americans, critics—including celebrities and historians—condemn it as a display of corruption and a reflection of historical racial violence.
The meltdown over the UFC event on the White House lawn continues on the left.
The latest is from Sheryl Crow. So people are mad. They're mad that that one fighter
said Michelle Obama is a man at the end of his fight. They don't like that. I get it.
That's not a nice thing to say. And if you're a Michelle Obama fan, you definitely don't like it.
I mean, it was a joke, whatever. But they're not really mad about it. That's not
why they're ripping on this thing. They're mad that UFC fighters were on the White House lawn,
that President Trump had this big event, that he's in office for the 250th. They're mad about that.
They don't want him as the emcee of this celebration. And that brings me to Sheryl Crow.
So she readers for this is a lot. She posted the following online. Okay. She said she wrote
to stay quiet in response to this means to turn a blind eye. And so I am saying this.
What happened on the lawn of the White House was disgraceful and void of decency.
Powerful rich people filled the lawn to watch a violent sport that ended with a violent racist
comment. All while the average American cannot afford health care, gas and cost of living.
Do not be fooled. This administration is corrupt and does not give a damn about the American people.
It only cares about making money hand over fist as the at the expense. And in spite of our
democracy, if we continue to support this kind of distraction from reality, we are no better
than them. Let's be better, America. And it wasn't just Sheryl Crow, guys. There is a guy posted this
on the Daily Wire. It's a great article called Leftist Hate Americans Who Love America. And
he pointed out that Mark Thiessen, back to Mark, had been praising the UFC event as Trump opening
the doors to regular Americans, the kind who enjoy motocross rallies and monster talk shows.
New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg, we've discussed her before,
responded by sneering that if you're OK with that, you're an elitist snob in reverse,
quote, like ultimate fighting. Porn is extremely popular, but I somehow doubt
Thiessen would defend a Democratic president who invited a bunch of only fans creators
to the Oval Office while he was losing a war. Then there's Jim Acosta, who had on his show
historian Heather Cox Richardson, who's extremely popular with leftists, who said the following,
quote, it's not really a stretch to say that the same impulse that created the UFC fight on the
White House lawn is the impulse that really pushed lynching in the late 19th century.
Wait, we have that on camera. Let's watch that together.
In the Gilded Age, you did not have this open display of denigration of American symbols and
American values. And that, you know, for all the facts, you might have disagreed with Carnegie
about how you should build up the United States or with J.D. Rockefeller. They still argued that
they were offering a way forward for the United States that would make it better for everybody.
Now, and they were quite open about that. I mean, again, you don't have to agree with them,
but they at least said that what you are watching Trump do right now is deliberately tear that
apart. And he's doing so on the same cultural argument, of course, that people
used to back the first Gilded Age. That is these cultural wars that turn white Americans against
marginalized people of color. Right. That's the bottom line there. So, I mean, I mean,
it's not really a stretch to say that the same impulse that created the UFC fight on the White
House lawn is the impulse that really pushed lynching in the late 19th century against
black Americans overwhelmingly. I love Acosta's reaction. Make it make sense.
So wise. Look, we talked about this the other day in our podcast. I wouldn't do it. I think
it's a little gauche. I would just do Easter egg rolls and Christmas decorations and signing
ceremonies. But we passed that a long time ago. They light up the White House for different
colors, for different events, et cetera. And the imagery around this thing is just extraordinary.
The ones you showed that they're so well done. They're so patriotic. And this is a mainstream
American sport that's extremely popular, overtook prize fighting a long time ago.
And it wasn't just Jeff Bezos there. I know Zuckerberg was there, but wasn't billionaire.
It was a lot of military guys and a lot of military guys got tickets through a lottery
or whatever it was. We have a colleague in Washington, D.C., who's not a big UFC fan,
but managed to go. Her boyfriend invited her and had a great time. And by the way,
something that's been weirdly underappreciated or underplayed, there was no kidding, really serious,
as far as we can tell, terror plot around this event to attack this event and not just a lone
wolf, one crazy person, but apparently was a really serious cell that had a multilayered plan
to create mayhem and death around event that ultimately, yes, about Trump and glamorizing
himself and doing what he likes. That's his character and his persona. But also the flyovers
and flags, it's patriotic imagery that shouldn't be partisan, but unfortunately is.
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It's just like, what, slavery and Jim Crow to have the UFC?
Okay, what do you think of it, Charlie?
All of those people are crazy with the exception of Heather Cox Richardson, who's a disgraceful
cynic. Heather Cox Richardson's job is to tell credulous upper middle class white women,
including Jim Acosta, that their conception of this president is backed by the worst parts
of American history. That is what Heather Cox Richardson does. She finds things from history
and then connects them to what's happening today and tells people who've never thought
about history in any serious way that their instincts are correct. Now, I wouldn't have
done this because I don't want our imperial presidency. You know my views on this. I'm
a Calvin Coolidge guy. I would like the president to be quiet. But it didn't matter. I don't like
it, but it didn't matter. It's a bit like the Kennedy Center. I don't think Trump should have
put his name on it. I think it's probably illegal. But it's not the most important thing in the
world. Jim Acosta, did you see the video of him outside the Kennedy Center when they were supposed
to be taking Trump's name off it? So this behavior you've just seen with this UFC fight is now
reflexive. Jim Acosta was there late at night, waiting for the construction crew to take Trump's
name off. He's got a camera on him. And he says two things in quick succession. One, he says,
this is just like being at the fall of the Berlin Wall. And then he says that this shows
what we can do when mankind, and then he corrects himself and says, I mean humankind, because of
course you can't say mankind. He says when humankind stands up to tyranny. So the problem is
not people who are criticizing having a UFC fight on the lawn. And it's not people who don't think
the Kennedy Center should be the Trump Kennedy Center. The problem is the escalation of these
very small and unimportant things. To that, comparing them to Jim Crow and lynching and the
East German walls and tyranny. I mean, this is one reason, incidentally, I think Trump was president
twice. It's just no one can ever hold their fire. They can never put what Trump actually does
in context and tell their allies to shut up about everything else. It's just stupid.
I mean, well, the whole Kennedy Center thing, it didn't go well, I grant you. But Trump was trying
to fix a center that had been pandering to the left for decades. All the acts that went there
were Democrats who had supported the most recent Democrat in whatever election we'd had.
The people who got honored every year were open and committed Democrats. Once in a rare blue moon,
you'd see a right-leaning person over there. But almost never, nothing's coming to mind.
I think the reason, I mean, yes, Trump loves to have his name on everything. We all know that
about Trump. But I think he was also trying to telegraph. There's a new sheriff in town.
This is not your grandfather's Kennedy Center. Like, hey, conservatives, give us a shot because
you're gonna see your people here now that we've renamed it and Rick Grinnell is running it.
We're trying to get the word out. But of course, his worst detractors always go to the most
negative place with him. It's all about self-aggrandizement. And I realize with Trump,
there is an element of that. But no credit for just trying to actually maybe reach out
to a wider audience, which again is what he was trying to do on the White House lawn with UFC.
Not in any way some homage to Jim Crow, which is like freaking crazy talk.
Now, speaking of Crow, Cheryl Crow, this isn't her first foray into politics. I was at
the 2008 coronation of Barack Obama at Invesco Field out in Denver when he accepted the nomination
with the Greek columns, remember? And she was there. She played. And so did James Taylor.
He's always at these Democrat things. But she, wait a minute, who was the guest? It was James
Patterson came on the show last Friday and told me that he worked in a psychiatric facility.
And when he was there, James Taylor was there as a young man in the psychiatric facility
singing songs. This is before he's famous. I never really got to find out what was he doing
in the psychiatric facility. Whatever. Back to Cheryl Crow. She posted this video not long ago
on her social media of her waving goodbye to her. Wait for it. Tesla. Remember in 2025,
that's crazy. Watch this.
OK, so now she wants us to understand like she's the person who's going to be the spokesperson
rich for, like, working class Americans and their plight. And that's why this whole thing
was so inappropriate at the White House. Meanwhile, she waved goodbye to her, what,
$70,000, $60,000 automobile because of the politics perceived of the owner of the company.
Not that many people can do that. Yeah, your car shouldn't be political. It's a wonderful car. If
you liked it enough to buy it, it's quite pricey. Not that price matters to her. It's probably
subsidized by by the government. Why are you getting rid of it? Just because you don't like
Elon Musk. And by the way, that the idea that Cheryl Crow is lecturing us about how UFC fight
isn't working class, you know, someone who's never been to a UFC fight, whereas this is a sport
that indeed has a lot of working class appeal. It just it just gets to how this celebrity politics
is so twisted and so out of touch. You know, another element of the Obama plex, Obama library
thing we could hit on. He's got legit like A-list singing talent performing at the opening or
whatever it is right in a way that Trump never could score. So it's always good for them putting
on shows. But it also misleads them because they think that's the real world and they think people
actually listen to what those people say and follow the political directions. And they just
they just don't ever.
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