ABEL MUTUA MKURUGENZI ' MY LIFE AS A YOUNG FATHER ' CLICK CLICK BANG MOVIE - THE PRESENTER ALI SHOW

Welcome to the second episode of the Presenter Ali Show And today I have with me Abel Mutua Msiyoka, a.k.a. Freddie. a.k.a. Mukuru Genzi How are you? How did you find out about the government? I googled it. There was a guy who asked me to google you. All of you? How are you? Let me just say, Kumba, I'm a huge fan. And you're doing an amazing job. and right now I have Abel Ikitajo. The first thing that comes to everyone's mind is click click bang Before I even start Let me start by offering my sincere apologies. We are in the Click, click, bang A lot is happening. We met today I think I was deeply engrossed in so many things. that I missed the meeting I didn't have to pick you up. It's totally fine I am truly sorry. But yeah Click, click, bang. We have been talking for almost a year and more. The news came through. On July 15 when it premiered It was a hit. We recorded a lot of people. who have watched cinema in 24 hours What kind of cinema? Kenyan We recorded over 2,600 people Who came to the auditorium? between Friday and Saturday Never been done before That means on that day you were able to make Over 2.5 million? Correct In 24 hours The show was the following day. I want us to understand It's so hard. seeing a team that is very dedicated to one thing and you chose to die with it Looking at it You decided to die with Kenyan and you decided You're going to make this for you. Because when I look at it I don't see endorsements What is the reason? We have lost the power to Endorsements are excellent. They are nice. When they come to you Take them and run. Don't be afraid Take the endorsement and run with it. But what has taught us is Everyone who enters the game now is chasing endorsements If you studied basic business when the supply is high demand decreases So when we enter the same corporations It will be hard. and we will lose I can tell you for a fact the amount of money we used to pay when the show started that money I'm not kidding you. It has been divided into creators. Yes But when you are dealing with the masses directly You can't finish that cake. People have access to the internet. Last year there were more than 22 million people Who had access to the internet? When you get to design people can give you their one or two hundred My problem is content creation is a culture that we have not instilled to Kenyans When you go to the US or UK You realize that People are accustomed to paying for content. Kenyan people are accustomed to downloading video audio, content for free So what exactly do you do? to make Kenyans Understand that? The very first what we did was to show them the process Apparently, many Kenyans don't know What goes into content creation So we were very deliberate. to show them the process what goes into making of that show How many people have watched it? What are the dynamics? So when someone sees 300 people have watched it They go to the cinema. It took them three months to create. He will feel ashamed to watch it for free. because he has seen the process He has seen what it entails. so that for us was the first step and once we were immersed in that process It was very easy for them to say We have seen what you do. So let's do this even if it's just a small amount In fact, even the comments I am reading right now after people have watched ClickBang They come back to me and ask Why are you charging KSh 250 for this? This has to continue for at least five years. but we tell them Let's just start there. First of all, to get as many people as possible then eventually we will grow step by step What amazes me about Feel It the fact that It's not the people we have met It's the people we have met for the first time. and I want to ask you Where did you get the idea for Feel It? Oh, very nice. Some of you may say my age will tell you But it's okay. so in 2005 I was a very young and vibrant 19-year-old Yes our audience when they hear 2005 They think I was 19. so in 2005 I went to College KMC I met a boy. He is a visionary. He has ideas. We were in the same class. Same hostel, same room from 2005 until I graduated from college so every place I went We were in the same class. even when I was working at Citizen TV We were in the same class. so we talked about having our own outfit our own production house because we felt since that time Productions are carried out the way we want them to be carried out. so even when we took up Tahiti High For us, it wasn't that we had reached It was just a stepping stone. towards our goal which was to start our own production company and that is what made you stand out due to the rest because after you got that opportunity you felt like this is it This is it for me. at that time when we saw Freddie That was a young girl. Yes, we knew. We have a seat at the table. where productions are discussed We need to have our place. because at that time We were feeling very helpless. We had ideas, but we couldn't carry them out. because the industry wasn't there People were still a bit rigid. They wanted to experiment. so we said to ourselves Let's start our own outfit. You still meet people who call you Freddie. absolutely especially the generation we are talking about the show at the time was so popular It took a lot of time. It took a lot of time to shake off that gender. By the way, people have been calling me Freddie until very recently. until just about Mkuru Genzi Mkuru Genzi, I think it's changed. That is when it changed. but I also want to tell you when you become so deeply immersed in a character you find yourself You are the character even off set correct It took a long time to shake off that character. It took a lot of time. At that time we were from Tahiti. We were in Tahiti for four years as students. so after we left in 2011 It took a lot of time. from around 2011 to 2013 Every time I audition I get into that vibrancy of being a student And sometimes I want to be like you. Yes so later on I started getting hired. By the way, you're a student. Ground yourself. Be flexible You can't go to the bank. You can't go to the bus. You can't go to school. You know So it took a little time. but after about 2-3 years of being completely out of the game that skin but I also want to tell you because You have distinguished yourself as one individual for lack of a better word You've been a jack of all trades. You have acted, you have done the scripting. You have been a producer. You have been a camera operator. You've done stand-up comedy. You are right. Now you are a storyteller. You're still doing films. is it something that You love all those things as a whole. or are you just doing them towards finding your purpose Very good so you are going to believe especially now that you are alive if you have the opportunity You can try this. if it's scriptwriting if it's cinematography, if it's acting It has catapulted me to the next level. In fact, the Zungus have a saying. a jack of all trades is a master of none but you are saying a jack of all trades is a master of none but still much better than a master of one What? That's the full saying. Is that from a book? Even on TikTok, there's a lady Who sings that? In life there are people called polymaths. Polymaths are people who naturally have the ability to do more than one thing so if you tell her a jack of all trades is a master of none You're wasting her. she has the ability to do a couple of things I can give you a very good example. There's a guy named Jamie Fox. He's a brilliant actor. Jamie Foxx is an actor. Jamie Foxx has done stand-up comedy. He's deadly. And I think he's now in production. I think it's the same thing with Kevin Hart. He's now on the radio. He's acting, he's in production. He's in comedy. if we had asked him to do comedy We would have wasted him. Let's talk about fatherhood. because I think You became a father at 22. very young 23 would you say being a father when you are young is an advantage or a disadvantage when you are young many people hear Someone has become a father at the age of 23. It's scary. for me Being a father at 23 I would laugh a lot. I know what I am trying to say is It's a double-edged sword. at 23 when you have a child and you have prepared yourself You're okay. You have the resources. Psychologically, you are prepared. It's the best thing ever. because you grow with the child by the time you reach 40 The child is about to finish high school. You know you're an adult. You can sit down and talk. Discuss ideas It usually comes at a time when you're not okay. You are not psychologically prepared. You lack resources. Then it becomes very tricky. because when you start raising a child if you're not okay the effects of the child can be felt They can be absorbed. It can be felt when the environment is not okay. and that makes us raise the child They are not okay. They have issues. So it's both an advantage and a disadvantage. advantage if you're okay is a defeat because in terms of resources At least I wasn't bad. even if I didn't have much money at that particular time I had a job. So I knew it would come Actually, it was a minor incident. By the time the child was born, I didn't have any money. At that time, we were doing a show. of a comedy called Top Comic So Top Comic When we were shooting, I couldn't go to work. Citizen So, Citizen because I was on contract Whenever I don't work, I don't pay. So I left it. because we had promised a show and there was a door fitting So I said, let me take this risk. So I quit the job at Citizen. Then I went to Top Comic and I lost it. You were the second CB? I was the first runner-up. So the first runner-up gets nothing. not even a single cent nothing because I wasn't going to work, Citizen I was just running NTV I was not receiving a salary. so by the time the child was born The one who lost He came through. He gave everyone KSh 40,000. You were the sixth finalist. Everyone went home with KSh 40,000. Imagine we had said We have come so far. on this journey and the fact that we are here means that we have come so far so the one who is struggling He has the strength. He gave everyone KSh 40,000. So Oyo gave them KSh 40,000. everyone and at that time he had a sick mom and he had lost his brother dwarfs So he was begging me. but he insisted He said no. We reached an agreement. and I said the one who is struggling I will give them your relationship with your daughter We can actually see it online. It's a very amazing relationship. and How is she related to your mother? and I just want to know your relationship with your daughter what made you That strong Is it because you and your mom were strong? Or how was it? so me growing up I went through some phases. At some point, my biological father abandoned us a father figure It is very important in a family. so when my dad passed away I became useless I went through a lot. I was a mob and when I look back I lack a father figure. so I don't want to subject another child to what I went through because God helped me At the very least, I was able to Get her back Right now I might get it wrong. with my child She can't come back. She can kill me. So I said I'd have to be there for this girl. I want to be among the first people I know whenever anything happens to her when she experiences anything I want to be among the first to know I don't want to be in a relationship with her I don't know what they are doing I don't know who they are interacting with. It's very dangerous. because when things start going south You are most definitely the last person to know. which is extremely dangerous as a parent because for me fatherhood is something that is I can say I have experienced it. It looks like a scary experience. I know, man. especially if you've never been there from outside in It's scary. and when you enter It's like when you pick up a dog and throw it into the water Somehow it will look for water. and it will come out That's fatherhood. when you enter You somehow find your footing and you maneuver by the time I sit down and look back I don't know why I was scared. because when I meet a man who has just given birth And he is not a bad person. He has a job. He does not work in these organizations. but he has just given birth for selfish reasons If you tell him I called you because of the baby He will laugh. The baby can be very expensive. but it can still be reasonably affordable extremely But the baby wants food. You don't sleep outside. You don't have a roof over your head. He won't use that. You buy him food and clothes. even if it's just three That's it. Normally it's the baby. when it comes to the conditions when it comes to issues but a healthy baby You have no reason to run. Imagine maintained now People don't know Click, click, bang You have written a book. Really? Tell us about that. the writing process There's a show I have written Click, click, bang. It was just phenomenal. every time you do it We have a team called the Think Tank. it has 6 or 7 people So you don't meet in advance. The advantage is I already had the story of click click bang. I even posted it on YouTube sometime in 2020 so I went and Wrote it down in prose In point form then I came and went through the entire story about the think tank so their job was to look at What can we improve here? What can we change here? and so on Then I went into the bush. for 5 days Why the bush? Let me tell you when you are writing a script You don't want disruption. You can't write in the office. every 2 minutes You are asking for help. You can't You can't write at home. because the wife is the one asking questions neighbors What do you want? You are looking at your landlord. And he's looking for me. So you want to go to a neutral place. a place of serenity So you want a place with grass? like this design You can't find me when I start writing for 5 days I leave my phone at night. I look at who came I talk to my mum. Where do you live? This time I went to a place. called Lukenya escape I know Lukenya getaway is a place where You can see two planes. There are even planes. if you have a routine I have written from 4 to 5 or 5 to 6 You go for a walk. to refresh When I walk I see zebras and wildebeests there It means I am fit. even TNT In this round, we wrote there and JLL JLL I wrote where so So right across Lukenya motocross when you enter Mombasa Road There is a place called Stony Earth Resort. Do you know Stony Earth? Wait, Abel, are you okay? Abel This is actually the first time I've heard it. Someone go to those places to write Have you ever seen someone? Write normally? But I don't know how I don't understand it. because I can't So you will look for those places. and go there alone Let's go back We have a lot of stories. So stay tuned I want to know They will give you a trailer. Of course growing up, when fame comes in an instant It can come with challenges. You get confused. You don't know how to handle it. How was it for you? I thank God because He has given this to me twice. people rarely get Second chances I tell people There is no such thing as a comeback. in this country There are two people who have returned. Nyashinski and Abel Mutu this comeback thing has helped me because of the mistakes I made during the time of Tahiti I can't go back. Tahiti taught me something very valuable Even you because you're a big deal I want to show you the reason why People want to be close to you. the reason why I quit my job. I came here. because I feel something valuable can come from you and the moment Something comes from you the moment you have nothing to offer I'm not kidding you. No one will look for you. Those are the things. I learned the hard way Naturally, I am very generous when someone gives you something I go out of my way to do things for people until I left Tahiti I worked for a whole year without a job People left me. My phone was like that. No one was calling. when I call someone even from the way we speak You can tell This person wants me to hang up. and get back to business so that thing has grounded me deadly In fact, I was privileged to meet a former cabinet minister I won't name him. he was among my favorite politicians ever I don't even want to call him a politician. because he is a technocrat He got the job because he is very sharp. He was a cabinet minister. When I was in college at that time When I was in school the government forced people to cut their hair So this side had to bring their ministers. The other side had to bring their ministers. He lost his job. because the other side I had to get a job. The minister lost his job. like this for the next week I was just telling him Don't worry, you'll be fine. After that silence his phone didn't ring for almost for one year because he had nothing to offer It was ringing off the hook. because it's always ringing off the hook so when I remember His story and my story After I left Tahiti That thing has worn me down to death. No artist can stop me I even reached the level of Diamond Platinum at the back of my mind I still remember people are with me because of what I can offer them There's nothing else. That is very important. for us when we sit in the industry We think someone is my friend. Yes You will be shocked. I have been there myself. now They say My fans are terrible. and we are in the offices They say They are watching. You can see their bosses. They are watching. So you know People have found me deadly. I was looking for funding. to set up Premiere I went to some of those offices. where people were funding me poorly Do you know I didn't leave even one office. the moment you need something People are always ready to receive. but not to give the most random people will give you You can't even expect They will tell you You've set me up. I remember When I left Switch I used to be at Switch. I used to perform shows. so when I left Switch I went online I think I was depressed. for several months No one was calling me. The artists were calling me. They wanted to interview me. I couldn't see those people. the only person who truly stood by me was director Trevor that guy because I am a mentor into content creation That's the time he came through for me. He taught me things. and I completely understand when you say that This phone does not ring. That's very true. It happens. when I see an artist out here I feel sorry for them because they have no idea It only takes an illness like this Diamond is now big. continental the day you hear Diamond is in a wheelchair. That's it. and that is the saddest truth about life The art of storytelling I want you to know when you were a kid You used to tell stories. I am at the heart of it You used to tell stories. But you sure do get into trouble for it. Of course We used to be called young CEOs. because The teacher used to come in. Abel and your company You already have a company. You know the CEOs who gathered here to listen to stories They used to be called my company. but it's something I have had since I was a child but when you have grown up It hits you that it's something unique because you've been like that since you were a baby so during this time of COVID My wife told me Why don't you try telling a story? It took me so much time. to try and understand Why has this story gone viral It's just a guy. sitting on a chair telling a story I thought it was normal. but it isn't It's hard to find someone. Who captivates you? extremely difficult So I thought It's a good opportunity. Let's go with it. You have many stories. You tell There is the young and foolish. There are the headline hitters. among my favorites What's the other one? Which is your favorite? My favorite because I am very interested in history when it comes to headline grabbers Who do you love? my director He loves headline hitters. religiously the day he doesn't watch or he has stopped watching He continues the next day. For me, I think it's young and stupid. so this is the majority the majority of the people Love the young and the foolish I can learn a lot from that. and I can also relate some stories when I tell them It's not like mine, but I can relate. And I think that is the beauty of it because if most people love it it shows that It's made by a Kenyan for Kenyans Not many can relate because they were young They have made mistakes. but I want to Explain one thing. apart from the fact that you Njugush, Phil and of course the spouses have been in the same school true There were many people in that school. but There was someone. No one really expected but right now he is there What brought you together? the closeness The family grew slowly. So of course it started with me and Phil because we were in the same school then our wives came So they have no choice. We have to love each other. then along the way We met like-minded people. like Njugush Njugush came and our vibes got mixed so wherever we were going Njugush was going and since he got a wife His wife has no choice. We have to love each other. That's how it started and the family is very beautiful and amazing Looking at what you guys are actually doing in terms of the fact that you all are in the same field Is it challenging? to be with a spouse in the same field in the same field We are a bit different. because right now My wife is in management. She manages talent. I am here in production So we are not the same. so maybe Njugush and Kavinye They can answer. that question even Philip and Kate because there was a time when Philip was already a director in a show where Kate was an actress so I would love to know how does it feel to be You know, you wake up in the same bed You get in the same car. You go to the same place. Let's go back to click bang click click Click, click, then bang. You know the sound of a click. You're okay. OGU is here OGU is here, Calligraph Jones God bless that guy. so that you understand The impact of Calligraphy and the heart of the band in this production one of the most expensive elements in film production Believe it or not And this is a surprise. is music Let me tell you There is nothing expensive in cinema. like music the moment you watch Hollywood You hear a song you know Money has been poured. you can get total budget of the cinema 100 million dollars half Fifty million dollars to secure rights for music It's extremely expensive. extremely expensive actually I was with the Cardinals. because I wanted their song In Click Click Bang They have a deadly song. called Geri Nengi Scar by then That is very true. but now the Cardinals have gone to management You know management has to teach them the law so they went and they got for us to get 30 seconds of Geri Nengi in our cinema It will cost us no less than 450 Gs. which is actually true It costs that much. for 30 seconds of music So imagine Hollywood They have Kangos worth 10. How much have they spent? It's ridiculous. It's crazy. So Calligraph told us It's okay. I have seen what you are doing. and where I can offer my Support is in music Do you know He gave us his entire catalogue And this boy has nearly 5 songs. He told us you go through my catalogue. All the songs will be hits. Send them to me then our music helped us because Calligraph has never been signed Blue ink is his In fact, last year our school men provided us with music Our school's men's team is Sauti Soul. Sauti Soul told us Take our music but Sauti Soul had a minor challenge because they were signed with fooled and before they were signed with Underpenya So we had no window. to play with them Those songs were released at the same time. before Universal and after Penya but all of Calligraph's catalogue Is he and I own Same with Hat the Band The Band told us We have Soulfly Solo Look at how many songs you have In fact, when we watch the first draft of our movie we will create They made two songs for us. Imagine those two people, Calligraph and Hat The Band have saved us millions of dollars Yes, true. You would have spent way more Way more Random question out of nowhere It was a silly mistake. So what happened? He met this artist. His name is I always get confused. Bamdogo I don't know if he is in Kisumu. Kisumu, Eldoret one of those places so Bamdogo He changed his name. To Zeze Maestro Zeze, I know. So Zeze He made a song with Dr. Eddy. Dr. Eddy He saw this song Here in Kurugenzi he put 2-3 lines Don't tell me you got the story Because I used to love that song In Kurugenzi, he wrote 2-3 lines. This song could be a hit. So he called me. and told me to write 2-3 lines in this song So I went and put it there. After a while, he called me. and told me we have stopped filming videos I said okay So we started Westlands by the time we finish Westlands, Giza It was around 5:40 p.m. and you know solar by 6:30, 6:40 pm It's deep. You are lost that night our next location We were supposed to leave Westlands. if you go along Kiambu Road You will find a place with tea. There are a lot of people. who love to take photos So we were supposed to leave Westlands at 5:40 pm. and go all the way past Ndumberi and shoot before solar hits 6:40 pm even if I am not an angel That's a different story. So we left Westlands. We came all the way to Muthaiga. Dr. Eddy said I have an idea instead of going all the way to Ndumberi Let's go to Muthaiga North There's a place with no people. because the road is empty Let's go and shoot. at the estates with no people Let's finish the shoot there. I said okay. Muthaiga is this we have reached Let's go. So we went to Muthaiga North We parked the car. We got out. Dr. Eddy set the drone He told me. reverse the car You come Let's shoot the driving scene. Let's not even bother with the second take. the guys from GSU They pointed at us. and told us Put everything down. Put the drone down. Put all the cameras down. Everyone put it down. So I went back with the car. They told me to sit down. We sat down. They came and took the drone. They even knew how to operate. They took out the card. They gave it to us and started calling. No one was talking. They started calling. We were not shooting. Nothing was wrong. within 30 minutes The cars started coming. One car, ATPU They came and started talking. Let's talk. They talked to the GSU guys. They left. the Subaru Forester came They talked to the GSU guys. at this time No one was telling us anything. then after an hour We saw Mariam. the police Land Rover Muthaiga Police Station They came and told us Put everything down. Put the drone down. The one who was shooting was me. The car does not have a license plate number. I took it out. I heard them talking. The license plate number was hidden. so that the CCTVs can't see They wanted to pay us. So I got in the car I made it in with one cup The rest got into the Land Rover. all the way to Muthaiga When we arrived at Muthaiga, we were told the place we went to shoot was the residential of the National Intelligence Service What? We went to shoot. They were certain. They were the guides. They can't be other people. if I'm not mistaken when you look at the picture I had closed my eyes So they were certain. They can't harm us. profiling So we went to Muthaiga. Who was there? me, Dr. Eddie There was a lady there. She was wearing a bure. She was coming to style me. I was wearing a shirt. and I was taking the first take She took the first take. She went to jail. I knew the three of them. after I got to know The problem was the National Intelligence Service. I called one of them. I told him I didn't know our residents were here. So we came to shoot. We bought a drone and we got caught. He called two or three times. and we were released Have you ever met someone you don't know? many How is it with you normally? because you've been in the game and you meet people you know Either it's Freddie or it's Mukuru so when you meet someone you don't know How do you introduce yourself? I introduce myself My name is Abel Mutua I am a cinematographer. Is it difficult? no you compare introducing yourself as I know you. My name is Abel. This is what I do I'm used to it It's something you do. whether you know me or not because I don't know You can assume you know me. So everywhere I go, I introduce myself. So it's better if you tell me what you know It's better if you tell me but I do not assume Some artists do that. because they are ashamed because you know me because I came to Europe to meet people The other day we were talking to Miss Trudy. There's a conversation that came up. of doing what you do and what you love and at the same time being able to Find the purpose Do you feel like you're on that path? 100% my purpose in life to make this industry make sense And that's what I learned in 2020 after COVID This industry has so much potential. It would be such a waste. When we retire to leave it as it is God has to call me on my knees and not listen to me because we've got people This industry has ruined God has helped us We have an idea. We have to change this industry. Let me tell you There is no industry that has the potential to boost the economy It's the film industry. in Nigeria A filmmaker opens a jam. The governor is stuck in traffic. The governor tells the producers to stop because film is number one It generates revenue from oil. and Nigeria is one of the largest oil producers on the continent actually in the world It shows the potential of a filmmaker. the reason why film has so much potential is because film is one of the very few sectors that employ people from many other sectors When you create a story about banking You deal with money So you deal with bankers. but when you make a story into a film You deal with everyone. Your cinema doesn't have accounts. You handle money. So you need an accountant. Your cinema doesn't need the technical crew. camera operators like the director editing people, sound people lighting people They are there. when people come to shoot They have to eat. There is a catering department. Actors have to dress up. There's a designer. There's a makeup artist. Those are the sectors. Your set does not create itself. It's built. There is a set construction. multi-million Let me tell you There's a cinema called Pirates of the Caribbean. Pirates of the Caribbean the very first one They announced. We want to make a movie called Pirates of the Caribbean. it will be based on the coast We are looking for places with good coastlines. so that we can shoot a very small island called Barbados I think that's where Rihanna came from. they heard Do you know the Barbados Film Commission? They don't have many people. They have two people: Mdosi and his secretary. They went straight from Barbados. Straight to Hollywood They told them we are an island. Our entire country is a coastline. Come and do whatever you want. The executives sent people. to come and see How is Barbados? They saw that the coastline was okay. Everything was fresh. They said we're doing everything from Barbados. There's nothing we will do to state to ship Everything will be done there. my friend Let me tell you when you go to Barbados if pirates are shooting You won't even get a person to show you. because over there they show you wearing a Jack Sparrow costume I'm telling you They all went to Barbados. Everyone got a card. Can you imagine the cinema? that employed more than 10,000 people almost the entire country Was there They solved employment with just one movie. with just one movie It's like You are looking for a job but they don't give you That is just an example. of how a film can solve I have seen people Go to debates and say we will create jobs Do you know the line? We will create jobs. We have heard it. even today It's a punchline. So it's like a movie. the economy that has given the arts It grows tremendously. Brazil has done the same. It has moved. I am not surprised to hear It has entered the first world. because it has given priority to the arts you have talked about the fact that it's a multi-million investment It's a business that can generate a lot of money. but looking at what you're doing I don't know if I'm wrong but I feel like You are not looking at money. You are looking at the long term. Yes when you are trying to make a change anywhere You have to be willing to take risks. so we know to have private jets and to live in Kitsuru and Runda but it will not pass our children We might be wrong. but our children They will enter. the very first time I met Krazy Kena I told him. this crazy money that people are making in entertainment Our generation may have passed. but not the generation of Kina Kena Kina Kena will be the first people. to build their houses Here in Runda to build their houses there amazing It's growing and I love it. Mombasa President Ali I can see your house. I can see it. on the beach You can see the reflection. of the stars Yes People are asking Who is this guy? He is a prominent doctor. and President Ali And it's actually happening. right now looking at content creators They're living really large. Look at MrBeast MrBeast He has a wife. He has a girlfriend. MrBeast They are in Dubai. Mr. Muscle and MrBeast the guy who gives people money He is deadly. Someone is making a clip. for 30 minutes or 18 minutes and it's millions of dollars and it's meant for YouTube Imagine If he is given millions of dollars How much does he get? Entertainment has reached the next level. It has become deadly. There is money in entertainment. Do you ever feel like the past generation? has failed Not at all when I meet them I tell them There is a culture we need to leave. this culture not just Kenya We have a problem in Africa. we almost always feel like Our problems will be solved. from outside The first thing they tell you Is this your cinema? You need to find a way to access Netflix. their solutions are outside They don't have solutions. when you ask them What do you want this industry to do? the very first thing they say We need to find a way for them to come. and do their jobs I understand. We can't just blame other people. for our problems We need to start from within. How are you solving your own problems? because we know our problems Now we have the solutions here What has been happening? I don't want to talk about Flack. because they have been through this It's a route, and it has worked for them. Very well then. They take a lot of time. Sourcing for funding not even creating They waste a lot of time. sourcing for funding A producer can go for 4, 5, or 6 years. sourcing for funding then when he gets the funding He does his movie. He holds on to it. then when it's released He sells it. They don't need to market the movie. because they have the profit so they can make their money there are a whole lot of Very good movies out there that we are not even aware of I'm in the industry and I've never seen them. because the producer screened them called his friends Fifty people came to the auditorium. watched the movie and went home and the movie was on the shelf so when you are going that way Most of us operate as beggars. We keep on producing So the industry grows. but when you take this other direction where you know, for you to make money From this thing you must toil You have to put in the work, you have to sell. That's how the industry grows. because people don't know that we have a film industry Now they know that Kenya doesn't have people. making a fuss about it because we are making a fuss about it We don't make noise because no one has funded us but the thing about funding that we don't work because once you secure your funding You think the main problem you have to solve is poverty I am sorry. this week I have been to Mombasa. and I remembered This week something is happening. correct after our premiere last week That thing was crazy. So they said we want to watch it again. In cinemas We will buy the tickets, but we want to go back to the cinemas. so we decided Let's go to the junction here. and Garden City on Thursday and Friday You are from Mombasa. so our industry in Nairobi is on its own Why are you sidelining us? so we decided Let's go to Mombasa. and screen our movie there so this Friday and Saturday while the movie is playing at Garden City and at the junction, the same movie will be playing at Nyali Cinemax The people of Mombasa want to watch it there. Yes, we have to do this. People of Mombasa know how we do. Mombasa gives us a time date and everything So Mombasa, we'll be there. Friday and Saturday the 29th and 30th of July at 10:30 p.m. 6 PM because the movie is Two and a half hours so when you get there at 6 p.m. We're done by 8:30 p.m. Then you go to Dunda. Friday and Saturday turn up Nyali Cinemax so guys Make sure you go there. and when you get there Tell them we have sent you with a presenter. We have sent you to show love and support because this is something made by Kenyans for Kenyans And that is just the beauty of it everything we are doing as Kenyans We try to support you because when you come and watch this movie an actor somewhere has put food on the table and I think that's one thing I love about film It's not yours alone It's everyone's when the movie ended We counted more than 348 names. in the credits They were paid directly. Some were paid indirectly. so maybe the movie was screened Nairobi Cinema We have written Nairobi Cinema as a single entity. but that Nairobi cinema paid approximately KSh 10,000–15,000 because some people cleaned so very many people and it's just one movie So imagine if we had an industry where we produce cinema like this KSh 1,000 per year It's crazy. Thank you so much. Abel, I can't finish my story It's been amazing. I have learned a lot today. And it's nice. that you have gotten something from this interview but the most important thing is You watch, click, click, buy Of course, I'll take a link. of those who want to book a house and the people you want to book How much is the ticket? the ticket for going to cinemas according to the location you want to go so if it's Garden City The payment bill number is 4076195 then In the account you put CC click, click Then G, that's Garden. so CCG1 is on Friday, CCG2 is on Saturday So that's your account. Pay bill for 4076195 account CCG1 or CCG2 I will send you the details on the screen Garden is CCG Junction is CCJ and Yanyali is CCN Okay, amazing. Thank you very much. Always a pleasure I have learned a lot. There are people who have been holding your hand From Tangu, Enzi, Afredi Talk to them. those who have been with me those who have believed in the dream I don't know what they will do the day this thing is over We will all go to the Maldives. I don't know if you guys know what you're doing In fact, there are T-shirts. we have printed with the words Feel it It says Eshimu Mgongo because he has been in the stream those are our fans who have been with CC from the beginning because their support is the reason We are doing things like this. which pays people KSh 300 So let's continue with that. Let's accept this thing. We will continue with CC. but my kids and your kids will not have a problem when the industry moves forward Thank you very much. I just want one favor I want to tell a story. with Phil I want to tell a story with Kate. I want to experience How it feels to be a source of inspiration and I want everyone Who will watch future episodes? I'm ready. I will start with Philo When Philo comes, you've got Kate. Thank you very much. Say hi to Amina Hussain. Say hi to that other guy. Kev Basil Mungai Hi everyone Keep doing what you're doing. Thank you very much. I want to tell a story with Abel Mutua Thank you very much for watching The episode has been sponsored by Hodari Homes We have land in Malindi. and Laikipia County 50 by 100 is KSh 90,000 if you want to pay in cash or KSh 110 or KSh 115 The deposit is KSh 10,000. or KSh 15,000 We have land in Laikipia County. Land is KSh 99,000 or KSh 120 if you wish to pay in installments The details are on your screen. Call us and we will check How will you acquire your land? Thank you to Mr. Walk for the location Thank you to my director The director's name is Captain. The name of the presenter is Entertainment. is for amazing See you all in the next episode. Nice If only I had the final say Send my CD I will come and put you on watch You had the last word.