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I'm 25 years old. I'm living at home. I make around $56,000 a year and cash flow in college.
So recently I started investing in a brokerage account and I was wondering,
is it wrong to primarily invest into a brokerage account?
Just in general?
For what purpose? I don't understand your question.
Why would you only do that?
Yeah, so recently I was thinking more about it. I should put money into the retirement accounts,
of course, but I was kind of wondering, is it wrong to put more money into the brokerage account
versus retirement accounts for the purpose of saving for like a down payment on a house or
being able to use that money before they get denied?
Well, the first thing we would tell you to do is be debt free. Are you?
I am.
Good. And then we would tell you to have an emergency fund of three to six months of expenses.
Do you?
I do.
Great. You're way ahead of the game. You're 25 and you're in college. What are you studying, sir?
Business administration.
Cool. And when will you graduate?
This fall, but I'm thinking about going for a master's degree.
Why?
I haven't been able to find an opportunity in the field that I'd like to pursue.
What field is that?
Merchandising.
You don't need a master's degree.
Okay.
That's not what's keeping you holding you back. Are you working full time now?
I am.
What do you make now?
Fifty six thousand.
Oh, you told me that. I'm sorry. You told me that.
All right. So 25 years old, you make a fifty six thousand.
What are you doing now, Connor, for a job?
I'm a deli manager at a grocery market.
Great. Well, I would start pursuing your merchandising career now while you finish up your...
Are you finishing a four year degree or a two year?
Four year.
Okay. Good for you. Okay. Excellent.
Yeah. You got some pretty good basic business tools in your belt academically.
All you would need for merchandising for sure.
And what you need to do, though, is get in with a good company that
lets you mentor and be apprenticed by some fabulous
people that have been in the business a while, and you can kind of walk alongside them and learn
from them, be discipled or mentored, so to speak. That's what I'd be looking for.
And I'd be looking for that hardcore and just working it like crazy.
I'm going to send you a copy of Ken Coleman's book, The Proximity Principle,
which will outline a good way to land that kind of position,
which is where that's what I would focus on.
Now, having said all that, back to your question,
you're debt free, you have an emergency fund, way to go.
When you've settled in on your permanent career, maybe by this time next year,
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People do two things at Baby Step 3B.
That 3B is before they start putting 15% away for retirement,
they sometimes take a gap period of time and pile up money for a down payment.
And you could use a brokerage account to do that.
Sometimes they put zero in retirement.
Sometimes they put a little in retirement.
Sometimes they put the whole 15% of Baby Step 4 in
retirement while they're working on their down payment.
If you've got the margin to do both,
save a good strong down payment and start putting your 15% away at your new
big time job that you've landed by next spring,
and you're loading up that Roth 401k, I would love that for you.
But if you want to take a couple of years and do no retirement
and just stack cash for your down payment, that's fine.
And then, you know, you do need to get the Roth long term working in your benefit.
Because from age, let's say from age 25 to age 65,
the amount of money that is in the account that is growth is about 90% of the money.
So let's say you had $2 million in there,
then somewhere around a million eight of the $2 million is growth.
That means it's all taxable.
You're gonna pay taxes on $1.8 million if you've got it in a brokerage account.
If you've got it in a Roth 401k, zero taxes on that 1.8.
And taxes on 1.8 sounds an awful lot like six or $700,000.
So long term, you don't want to only have a brokerage account.
Long term, you also want to have the tax savings of a Roth 401k Roth IRA.
And the question you're asking is fair to say,
hey, do I want money tied up till I'm 59 and a half?
Yes, some of it.
And so that's it.
So I would front load your retirement, take care of the Roth IRA,
take care of the 401k and then anything beyond that,
that you want to be able to save in a brokerage account,
you know, get some index funds, whatever that is for you.
That's great.
Then you can take it.
But I would do that second to all the retirement.
Go ahead and get all that behind buying a house.
That's right.
Yeah.
Sometimes Connor, we get the question like a 40 year old one is worried about,
okay, I might want to retire in 10 years at 50
and I can't get to anything till I'm 59 and a half.
And in that case, you do what Rachel's talking about.
And that's your third step, what we call bridge investing.
And you'd have some, a brokerage account, you know, a S and P 500 account,
whatever you want to put it in.
And you build some wealth there that you can use for those in between years
until you get to the Roth tax free, but don't avoid the tax free growth.
That's a million dollar mistake minimum for someone your age,
that would be a huge mistake.
So long-term it has to be part of your decision-making,
but it doesn't have to be the whole thing.
And today, if I'm you, I'm, I'm landing that big job
and I'm gonna stack cash for at least 18 months,
maybe two years and get me a nice house.
And, um, then you can start loading 15% in and get the house paid off,
work the baby steps.
And I think you're gonna be in great shape.
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