Brian Keating joins Shawn Ryan to discuss alien disclosure, the search for evidence beyond Earth, and the line between scientific skepticism and public belief. Keating breaks down recent UFO claims, government transparency, the role of physics in evaluating extraordinary evidence, and why he believes much of the disclosure conversation still comes down to “trust me, bro.” The conversation also covers his work building telescopes at the South Pole and in Chile’s Atacama Desert, the military origins of astronomy technology, Galileo’s telescope, the Big Bang, the Nobel Prize, faith, AI, moon landing skepticism, and what science can and cannot prove about God, the universe, and humanity’s future.
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The discussion explores the intersection of technology, spirituality, and government secrecy. The speakers compare the modern pursuit of AI and the belief in aliens to ancient religious patterns of \"creating gods in our own image.\" They further debate the implications of non-human intelligence, the mystery of Antarctica, and the suspicious loss of moon-landing technology.
I call these aliens of the gaps.
It's a form of almost religious worship.
Same is happening with AI, by the way.
You see this worship, this power, these people involved.
Look at the people involved in AI, Sean.
Everybody will be a lot more powerful.
Everybody that embraces technology
will be a lot more powerful.
But that's actually okay.
That scares me much less than a small number
of people getting a ton more power.
What do you mean worship in AI?
What are you talking about?
Worship in AI is creating a god in our image, okay?
So just what God did with us, God created us from dirt.
Adam, in Hebrew, it means earth, it means dirt.
God carved us out of earth, created.
We can believe it literally.
I'm not here to proselytize.
I'm not gonna say anything about anyone
who believes literally or doesn't believe literally.
But the point is, gods that we create in our image,
it's one of the oldest stories of all time.
Tower of Babel, what was the Tower of Babel?
It wasn't just like, oh, we're gonna make this tower.
It was humans developed technology.
They created the first composite building material
with straw, with earth, with dirt.
That's a composite building material,
like rebar and concrete, right?
That's come out.
And they said, hey, we have technology now.
We don't need to go on top of a mountain that God made.
We can build a tower ourselves to go to the sky,
like a Twin Towers.
We can do this.
We're so powerful.
We're so mighty, right?
It's an old tale that we can compete with God.
Why does the Bible, why does the Torah,
the Old Testament say they did it?
They wanted to fight with God.
Why?
Because God had restricted the knowledge
that human beings were capable of having.
The point is, these stories are eternal.
They have something to teach us 3,000 years ago.
They can teach us stuff to this very day.
With aliens, what is happening with aliens?
Mr. Grush, why is it that you refer to the phenomenon
as non-human intelligence?
Why deviate from the basis of extraterrestrial life?
That there's some external force that's being suppressed
that has the power to transform the world.
I agree 100%.
What's interesting is all of the witnesses
that we have talked to call these things interdimensional.
If everything they said was going to be disclosed
was disclosed, we would have to reconfront a new reality.
I mean, we would be in an environment
that is so unstabilizing.
As I've stated publicly already
in my News Nation interview,
biologics came with some of these recoveries.
It would make the Catholic Church burning Bruno alive
and imprisoning Galileo, all the things it would look like.
We would be so revolutionarily displaced.
The question is, if that's real, if these aliens exist
and they have technological capabilities
to travel light years across the galaxy,
why is it that Congresswoman Luna or somebody else
is capable of either suppressing it or disclosing it?
Dude, you went to Antarctica?
I've been there twice.
I spent months of my life.
What's going on down there?
Hi, I'm Brian Keating.
Be like me.
Watch my episode early on Vigilance Elite Patreon.
So Antarctica is one of the most fascinating,
otherworldly, just like extraterrestrial kind of planet
filled with some of the most hard-charging people
outside of the military that you probably ever want to meet.
It's harder to get to the South Pole to work there
as a cook than it is to get into Harvard University.
There's so many people that want to work there,
that be there.
They love the isolation.
They love the desolation.
It's like the movie Star Wars
with the ice planet Hoth covered over,
frozen over in snow.
Isolation, desolation, sounds like my dream place.
This battle in 1911 and 1912 was every bit as intense
geopolitically, national pride, scientifically.
It was the last continent.
No one had ever seen Antarctica.
You know when Antarctica was discovered?
Antarctica was discovered
after the planet Uranus was discovered.
You talk about aliens and you're in government?
That's like an immediate PR boost.
Boom.
The vast majority of people have no trust
in any of our institutions or our government at all
because they've been caught in so many ******* lies
and nobody knows what to believe.
Nobody even knows if these are lies.
Well, a lot of them are lies.
Nobody knows about this alien ---- yet.
You know what I mean?
For example, it's like, do we believe them?
Why would we believe them?
I just want to know, why don't we just land
on the ******* moon?
We did it in the 60s.
Okay, would you get?
Why are we doing all this crazy, wild ----?
Let's just go back.
I'd go to the moon in a nanosecond.
The problem is we don't have the technology
to do that anymore.
We used to, but we destroyed that technology
and it's a painful process to build it back again.
I think it's ******* weird that we haven't been back
since the 60s.
But do you know why we didn't go back
to the South Pole?
Or anybody on Earth?
So, first of all, it was-
The belt thing that you just brought up,
I also think is very odd.
As we get further away from Earth,
we'll pass through the Van Allen belts.
What is your take on that?
I'm just curious.
