Most car buyers make this mistake before they've even negotiated the deal. A dealership asks you to fill out a credit application before discussing price, and most people comply without realizing what they've just given away.
In this video, Kevin Hunter ("The Homework Guy") explains why the order of events matters and what you should do before allowing a dealership to pull your credit. This simple strategy can put you in a much stronger negotiating position and help you avoid paying thousands more than necessary.
Whether you're buying new or used, financing or paying cash, this is a step every car buyer should understand.
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Kevin Hunter warns car buyers against filling out credit applications before negotiating the vehicle's price. Doing so shifts the focus from the car's cost to monthly payments, giving dealerships leverage. To maintain control and save money, buyers should secure a written out-the-door price first and treat financing as a separate transaction.
Never fill out a dealer application without doing this first. Every day car buyers walk
into dealerships believing they're just taking the next step in the buying process. The salesperson
smiles, they casually bring over a credit application, and then they say, let's just
get this started so we know what you qualify for. Sounds harmless, right? But before you hand over
your social security number, before you authorize a credit pool, before you let that dealership
send your information to multiple banks, there's one thing you absolutely need to do first,
and failing to do it could cost you thousands of dollars. Hi, I'm Kevin Hunter, America's
consumer watchdog for car buyers, and today I'm going to explain why you must be careful.
If you're shopping for a vehicle right now and you'd rather have professionals handle
the entire negotiation for you, our nationwide car buying service works with buyers across the
Canada. We negotiate directly with dealerships, fight for the lowest written out-the-door price
possible, help protect you from hidden fees, overpriced add-ons, and dealership games,
and stay with you all the way through delivery. I'll tell you more about it later, but now let's
get into today's topic. Here's what most people don't realize. Once you fill out that credit
application, you've shifted the conversation away from the price of the vehicle and onto your
finances. The dealership now knows your credit score. They now know roughly what payment you can
afford, and they know whether you're likely to qualify for special financing. They may even know
more about your buying power than you do. That information can become negotiating leverage.
Instead of asking, how much can we lower the price? The conversation becomes, how much payment
can you handle each month? Those are two completely different negotiations, and that's exactly where
many buyers lose control. So what should you do first? Simple. Negotiate the vehicle before the
dealership knows anything about your credit, before they know whether you're paying cash,
before they know whether you're financing with your own bank, before they know whether you're
putting $5,000 down. Get a written out-the-door price. Not a verbal quote, not an estimate,
not a worksheet with mystery fees. A written out-the-door price that includes every dollar
you'll pay before financing is ever discussed. Now why would you do this? Because the price of
the vehicle and financing are two separate transactions. They should always be negotiated
separately. Once you've locked in the selling price, now you can compare the financing options.
Maybe the dealer has the best rate. Maybe your credit union does. Maybe your local bank beats
both of them. But at least you'll know you're comparing financing, not accidentally paying
more for the vehicle itself. Here's another mistake I see all the time. A salesperson says,
we can't give you the numbers until we run your credit. That is simply not true. Think about it.
The price of the vehicle doesn't magically change because you have an 820 credit score
instead of a 680. The MSRP is the same. The invoice is the same. The rebates are the same.
The market value of the car is the same. The selling price should be negotiated before credit
ever enters a discussion. Now are there situations where financing incentives matter?
Absolutely. Sometimes manufacturers offer low interest financing instead of large cash rebates.
That's perfectly fine. But even then, you should still negotiate the selling price first
and clearly understand whether you're choosing the rebate or promotional financing. Don't let
those discussions become one giant confusing package. Because confusion almost always
benefits the dealership. Here's another reason to wait. Some dealerships submit your application
to multiple lenders immediately. That may be appropriate later in the process, but not before
you've even decided whether you're buying the vehicle or not. If negotiations fall apart,
you've unnecessarily shared sensitive personal information, you've spent time completing
paperwork, and you've moved much further into the sales process than you had ever intended.
We always tell buyers, control the order. First, choose the vehicle. Second, negotiate the written
out-the-door price, generally from the comfort of home. Third, decide whether you're trading another
vehicle. Fourth, compare financing options and only then complete a credit application if financing
for the dealership truly makes any sense. That sequence helps you stay in control. It prevents
the dealership from bouncing back and forth between price, payment, trade allowance, interest rates,
extended warranties, and monthly payment until nobody knows what's actually being negotiated
anymore. That's not an accident. That's a sales strategy. The more variables they move around at
the same time, the harder it becomes for the average buyer to recognize where the extra profit
is being added. Remember, your goal isn't to negotiate a monthly payment. Your goal is to
negotiate the lowest total out-the-door price possible, then obtain the best financing available.
Those are two separate victories. Don't combine them. So the next time a dealership slides a
credit application across the desk before you've even agreed on a price, simply smile and say this,
I'd be happy to complete the credit application after we've agreed on a written out-the-door price.
Let's finalize the vehicle price first. That one sentence immediately tells the dealership,
you're an informed buyer, you're organized, and you're not going to let the negotiation
get out of order. If they have no problem with that, great. If they push back, you just learned
something important about them before giving them your social security number. If you're shopping
for vehicles anywhere in the United States or Canada, and you'd rather have professional
negotiators handle this entire process for you, that's exactly what our car buying service does.
We negotiate written out-the-door prices, compare dealer offers, help protect you from costly
dealership games, and stay with you all the way through until delivery. And if you've ever been
asked to fill out a credit application before discussing the vehicle price, leave a comment
below and tell us what happened. I'm Kevin Hunter, America's consumer watchdog for car buyers.
We'll see you on the next video.