"You're A Total Beta!" - 3 Things Men Should Never Do | Charlie Kirk

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AI GeneratedThe speakers debate whether men should pay for the first date and the broader implications of financial roles in relationships. While one participant admits to splitting checks in his youth for frugality, the primary argument emphasizes that men should always provide as a sign of leadership and honor, suggesting that women deeply desire this security.
Women want to be able, they want to be taken care of. I know this is like super provocative,
but like deep down they want a man to be able to provide for them financially.
Should a man pay on the first date?
A hundred percent! Like what kind of a wuss beta male is splitting the check?
Like who are you? Do you agree with me?
Listen, with Macy, I pay for the check.
On the first?
Yeah, the first.
It's like, I'm just sorry, it's so much. I would go into debt and like pay,
like scrub dishes before a woman pays for it.
Let's see what this is.
Didn't you go on a date like years ago, like a decade ago with this
woman whose mom gave you $20 to take her to the movie theater?
Yes. Yeah, I made money on that date, actually.
Well, so there's a good financial deal for you.
Explain how you made money on a date. That sounds different though.
That's not what we're talking about though.
Yeah, yeah. Her mom gave her, and by the way, this was in high school.
Okay, so that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about like 24 years old,
serious dating, right?
I split the check quite a lot, quite a lot.
I'm sorry. I don't mean to offend you. You guys are great. That's incomprehensible.
To me, I thought it was a great financial decision.
From your prism, I totally get that, and you have really good financial discipline.
I'm sorry. I would be so humiliated if I-
I did not care.
I find that to be the greatest beta male humiliation.
To save money?
No, no. To like the idea that a woman that you're trying to court...
Now, if it's like a friend thing or-
As a first date, you don't even know if she's like the quality-
It doesn't matter. It does not matter. I'm sorry.
By the way, that money you save is not worth the honor that you compromise.
It is such a big deal.
It's a massive deal. I'm not trying to give you a hard time.
I don't know. I'm sorry.
But here's the thing. In fairness, for your point with Macy,
I paid for the whole first date.
Well, hold on. Why'd you do that one though?
At that point, I was at a level where that felt like the right choice to make.
But throughout my early 20s-
Was it because you felt more serious with her or-
I was also in a point where I was ready to be able to-
Financially.
Yes.
Legit. I get that.
Early 20s, saving five bucks here and there, I would do it.
Okay. So you're manic with saving money.
I am.
We have Blake on my team is like you.
He goes and he'll eat the snacks for lunch to save money here at-
It's funny. I brought food from home today.
No, no. That's, by the way-
And coffee from home.
Frugality is a virtue.
So we as Christians believe that there is an order of virtues and above frugality is honor.
And so we as men must lead. We must provide.
Under no circumstance ever should a man ever let a woman pay for a date or-
Ever?
Ever. No circumstance.
Even on this third, fourth, fifth-
What if it's the first date and you're just nodding for anything?
Okay. Well, let me-
Well, let me-
Okay. So I-
What kind of world are we living in?
Hold on a second. I agree with you. If I'm dating a girl, I would pay for everything.
Yeah. Everything. However, I could see for other people that might be in a different
financial position. You pay for 10 dates and then she's like, you know what? I want to treat you.
Well, that's fantastic.
That's totally different. No, no. What we're talking about is like,
oh, we're going to alternate. What's your serious? And she wants to take you out to
something for a nice dinner. And you might, by the way, if you have the intent to marry,
you're already like kind of blending finances. Like I get that psychologically,
but like, if you're like, oh, we'll take turns. Like, oh, well, you know, you pay this time.
I pay this time.
So what's your advice to a girl who's, who the guy she's currently seeing, he says that.
Oh, do not marry that man.
But here's the thing. I feel like they should always break off.
That's great.
But they should offer, they should pull out the credit card.
The woman?
Of course.
Just to offer.
No.
It's a nice gesture.
No, by the way, no, no, no. This is feminism. Feminism is that you have to be this like
self-independent. This is a nice gesture. It's you trying to be like egalitarian. No,
you as woman should want to be provided for. In fact, you should have an expectation
that you as a woman are so important and so critical and so necessary and beautiful
that it shouldn't even be a question that if you're in a date now, if it's a business lunch
or like friends on 50 50, we're not talking about that. Right. Like it's all of a sudden
they're like, Hey, I want to buy insurance or like, you know, you're going to, you know,
I'm going to go do business. I totally do. I still think the man should pay, but that's that.
But see, to me, when I was dating, it would be a huge turnoff if the check comes
and she just looks at it and then looks at me and looks at the check.
I totally disagree.
I at least want to see like I'm reaching for something and I'm like, don't worry.
I want, I want a woman that wants to be led by a man. I don't want a woman that's all of a
sudden going to be competing financially in a marriage. I don't want a woman that's going to
be like, Oh, you know, questioning financial decisions or a woman that's going to be like,
all of a sudden Jeff, no, the man is the leader of the household.
The man is the leader of all the financial decisions. The man is the,
is the primary should be the primary provider. Again, there's exception to this. That's all.
Charlie, you're so sexist. Sorry. It worked for 2000 years for 5,000 years and it should work
again. And by the way, what we're doing right now is not working. Let me just repeat again.
This is not working and I'm not trying to like bash you. Like this is fun. It's in really good.
No, I love the banter.
No, it's great. But like this idea, if a woman on a date were to pull out a credit card to go pay
for something like I would be, I would be like, Oh, so you're like one of those boss babes.
No, that's, that's not what that's saying though. That is no, that is completely missing. I, I,
I think, no, I think if I'm on a date and she reaches for it, like, I just think,
Oh, that's really nice. You're trying to be kind here. You're trying to alleviate
what you perceive to be a financial burden on me. That's a generous interpretation.
And so, so we're bringing something to the table. And so I think women are not bringing
money to the table that they're bringing something else.
It's a nice gesture.
I agree with Graham. I think it's a nice gesture. However, I agree with you. I think the guy should
pay. I think, I think the woman going into that should have an expectation that the man takes
care of what should, should she be grateful if the guy takes a hundred percent? Oh, okay.
Cause if you're, if you're expecting gratitude, no, no, no, no. The woman should be, you know
what she should say? She's like, thank you so much for doing that and not having to put this
unnecessary pressure on me because you have just, you've just freed me.
That's what women want, by the way, read me. No, no, no, no. Like, like what?
Do you know how many women are secretly miserable that they have to be as financially
successful as men? A lot, like a lot. It drives them insane. Deep down. A lot of women want to
be mothers. They want to be wives. I tend to agree with that. Not every woman, by the way,
if you want it, if you, but if you want to go be a boss, babe, go do that. Like with a free society,
there's a lot of great people to do that. But generally we've over-corrected. Okay.
We have a lot of women that deep down want to go be moms and they would love to have their man
come in and just grab the check and be like, no, I got it. And by the way, you know what?
They see that as a signal. It's going to be okay. When the bullets start firing and there's chaos
and things start falling apart, this man is going to protect the family. Boom.
Wallet on the table. No, even better. Paying 26% interest on that. It's got to be even more alpha.
You go to the, you go to the waiter before the meal and you just give them the credit card. It's
not even a conversation. It's paid for. It's done. Like you don't even allow it to be a thing that
is introduced there. I would agree with that. I actually, I agree with that. Full alpha is like,
you go straight up where you are like smooth move and the girl is so stunned and she'll be like,
oh, don't we have to be like, no, I got it. It's done. Boom. Are you kidding? From a woman's
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