There's a rental property out there with your name on it – the “sweet spot” property every rookie investor wants. It's the kind of deal that can give you cash flow, appreciation, and tax benefits and become the launching pad for your entire portfolio. In this episode, we’ll show you what these properties are and where to find them!
Welcome back to the Real Estate Rookie podcast! Today, we’re breaking down why buying a small multifamily property is often the easiest and lowest-risk way for a rookie to get started. We’ll walk you through the "stack” method that could help you scale from zero to nine units in just a few years, and we’ll even compare real numbers from a duplex and a single-family home on the same street.
But that’s not all. Stick around until the end, as we reveal some of the markets where these deals are penciling out right now. If you've been looking for a beginner-friendly way to start building wealth with real estate, this episode is the playbook you need!
00:00 Intro 01:11 Why Small Multifamily? 06:54 Self-Managing (Easier Than You Think) 12:34 The "Stack” Method 20:16 Duplex vs. Single-Family (Real Numbers) 25:10 The BEST Markets for Small Multifamily
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There's a property out there with your name on it,
and it's the sweet spot rental every rookie investor wants.
The kind that can give you the cashflow, appreciation, tax benefits,
and most importantly, a launching pad for building your own rental portfolio.
Single family homes, they're hard to scale and don't always cashflow.
Multifamily apartments, they're way outside of most rookies price range.
But this rental property is one you can buy even if it's your first.
And honestly, it's the exact type of rental property
we'd be buying if we were starting from zero in 2026.
It's often affordable.
It's less risky than many other properties.
And you can get in with very little money down.
If you haven't figured it out yet, we're talking about small multifamily.
And luckily for you guys, we have the small multifamily queen
on the podcast here with us today.
We're going to be talking about duplexes, triplexes and even four plexes.
And for the rookie without a ton of money or experience,
it might just be literally the easiest way to get into real estate investing.
And we're about to show you why and give you a clear roadmap for getting.
Let's start with some of the pros and benefits of going after small multifamily.
Right now, you can get better pricing on a small multifamily,
such as a duplex or a triplex than you can on a single family home.
And first of all, it's because it's a buyer's market.
But also not as many people are going after investment
properties as they are single family homes, single family homes.
You're competing with homeowners along with investors.
So you have less competition.
You can get into the property with low money down
by actually house hacking one of these.
So you have an even better advantage if you're going to live in the property
than someone who's just going to buy it as an investment property,
because you're only going to have to put down three and a half percent
if you do a VHA loan or just five percent for a conventional loan
versus an investment property.
We're going to need to put down 20 percent.
So so I think, in my opinion,
easier to house hack a property that has multiple units
than buying a single family home and renting out room by room
because you can have the entire unit to yourself and you don't have to share
space with anyone, share a kitchen, share a living room.
Maybe you have to share a little entryway into the the duplex.
But I would prefer myself to have a separate unit.
It's also easier to scale because in one transaction,
one purchase, you're getting two to four doors
instead of having to buy two to four separate transactions.
You have to go out and find four different deals.
You have to go out and make offers on four different deals.
You have to actually get funding for four different deals.
You have to close on four different deals.
So it's easier to manage because it's all under one roof
and then also less risk in that one property.
If you have one property with one unit that has a vacancy.
Now you have no rental income coming in and you have to cover
all your expenses by yourself.
But if you have two to four units, you have one vacancy
and you still have the other units bringing in some rental income.
So you're not out of pocket all of your expenses.
If there's a turnover in the property.
Now, I don't own any small multifamily,
but when we decided to move out of single family Airbnb investing,
we bought our first hotel a couple of years ago.
And two things ring super true for me.
First is like the easier to manage.
We have 13 rooms in the hotel
and managing those 13 rooms under one roof is so, so, so much easier
than managing 13 separate single family home Airbnbs.
We have a cleaner who can show up in one spot.
Go knock out all 13 rooms if they need to.
Back to back to back.
We have one centralized location.
We can store all of our inventory where we can do laundry,
where we can have maintenance supplies and all those all those other items.
But for like my portfolio of single family homes, it's spread out.
We have to have like cleaners have to stop by this one central location
to pick up supplies and do this and do that.
So the management is so much easier.
And the risk part you talked about, Ash, that's a big one for us as well.
As we were thinking about scaling our portfolio, we thought about
hey, do we go buy,
you know, like a two million dollar massive Airbnb property?
Or do we go buy a similarly priced or valued commercial property?
And the reason that we went commercial was the fact that I've got 13 rooms
in this hotel.
It's very rare that all 13 are going to be empty.
So on any given day, at least have some level of income
coming into coming into the property.
So that was a big one for me as well.
So I love both of those reasons.
But I guess just give us some of your experience, right?
I mean, because you you started off and you kind of made a lot of your early
portfolio was in the small multifamily space.
Why did you feel that that was a good place for you to start as a as a rookie
investor? Yeah, I never thought I was going to buy any single family
because I just thought, you know, one roof and you have four doors
underneath it, like way less overhead.
It's all on one property. It's easier to manage,
which we will talk about some cons later on.
And I've definitely delivered or, you know, discovered some.
But I started off with just small multifamily.
It was duplexes, triplexes and a four unit than a six unit.
So I definitely like the idea of having, you know, doing one purchase
and getting as many doors as I could in that one purchase.
And also, I felt like there was less risk as I was growing my portfolio,
knowing that if someone didn't pay rent, that the other unit
would be able to cover it.
And, you know, my first couple of years, I did go through like an eviction
and it was in a duplex.
And luckily, you know, I still had somebody
in that other unit to cover the majority of the expenses
where it wasn't as terrifying as to like, here I am
just in my second year of investing and I already have an eviction
I'm going through.
So I think having that kind of safety net of multiple units
under one roof really did like kind of get me over a mindset hurdle
to being able to jump into real estate investing.
I also was working for a property manager that had apartment complexes.
So I just saw like how much cash flow was, you know, possible
with just having one building with multiple units.
So obviously I couldn't go out and buy a 14 apartment complex a day one.
So I had to start smaller.
But the the idea, the goal was always to like buy that small multifamily
and maybe one day, you know, convert into large multifamily,
which I think I've pivoted and changed on actually wanting to go after that.
But I still love my small multifamily portfolio.
Ash, what do you think about the rookie who's listening
and they're they're telling themselves, I want to self-manage.
But the idea of self-managing one door, let alone two or three or four.
I just can't like wrap my head around like I've got a busy W2 job.
I've got a day job.
I've got a family. I've got children, community commitments.
Like, I don't know if I can do, you know, multiple units on my first deal.
What do you say to the folks?
I think if you have that mindset, sit down and write out why.
Why do you think you can't do it?
Is it because you're working a W2 job where you won't be available
to take a phone call?
Is it because you don't think that you would like it
and you aren't friendly and you would get nasty on the phone
with their tenants if they complain about something?
So what are actually those blockers that think that you can't do it?
Write to them out.
And then what would be a solution to problem solve that?
So, for example, you have a W2 job.
You can't pick up the phone and talk to a tenant,
you know, during the middle of your workday.
So there's property management software out there now
where all of your messaging is done through the app.
And so you could message back and forth with your tenant.
You can also set expectations of these are the times that I'm available.
I'm available from 5 p.m. to 8 p.m. Monday through Friday.
I actually just saw a reel somebody had done where they actually send out
a notification on holiday weekends and say, just a reminder,
we will not be available until this was for the 4th of July, until July 6th.
If you have, you know, maintenance requests or any, you know,
communication with us, it will not be answered until.
And this was somebody that just has a small portfolio.
It's not like a big company or anything, but they set out that expectation.
Obviously, if it's an emergency or something like that,
there was a way to to reach them.
But like anything else.
So I think there are ways around.
It's just like setting those expectations up front with your tenants
and then putting those restrictions in place.
And sometimes that's even easier for the tenants.
Like if I was a tenant, I would way rather submit a maintenance request online.
I'd rather just like message you and like text you through the app
than actually pick up the phone and and call you.
Now, I definitely have one tenant that's older
and refuses to use any of this technology.
But other than that, everybody else is usually pretty gracious.
So make that list.
What are your pain points?
Why don't you think you'd be good at it?
And if there are still blockers for you, then when you analyze deals,
put in property management in place and, you know, run the numbers
based on having that management in place.
Yeah, I think even for people that want to do short term,
that that same question kind of comes up.
And I love your your example of like, hey, you can kind of set the expectations
around what you want your guests to do.
And while I think telling your guests like, hey, don't bother me at all
for Fourth of July weekend's probably harder in a short term rental.
You can say like, hey, between the hours of like, you know, say,
as you're saying in one of my places, I would say something like,
actually, I'm super excited to host you.
And while I love giving great experiences to my guests,
I still do this part time in addition to to like my normal working job.
So just know that if you do reach out between the hours of nine and five,
I might be a little slow to respond.
But just don't understand.
I'm going to get back to you as quickly as I can.
And hey, if there's an actual emergency, call 9-1-1, right?
Or like, hey, here's my cleaner who can maybe help in like a really immediate
situation, right?
So there's always the opportunity to set the right expectations
to still make sure that you can get these assets,
get the cash flow, get the appreciation
without it turning into a full time job for you.
I think to a lot of the times, like
when it is an emergency situation,
it's more of an emergency for us
as the property owner than the actual person, either the tenant or the guest.
Like, for example, I went to Colorado and rented a condo at a ski resort
and I did a load of laundry during the night.
I woke up in the middle of the night and I went out to the washer
because it was like those all in ones where you start a wash load
and then you switch it to dryer.
And I went to switch it to dryer.
There was water all over the floor like the washer had leaked all over.
And I tried messaging through the Airbnb app
and it gave me this thing as we are only available from 7 a.m.
to 5 p.m. or whatever for the the host.
So then I start looking for the number to call and just I left a voicemail
just saying, hey, just, you know, like the property is flooding.
And they did not.
They messaged me back on Airbnb at their 7 a.m.
or whatever time it was.
And they just said, OK, thank you so much for letting us know.
Sometimes if you do this and they gave me a code to like
get to the water shut off and stuff or whatever.
But like when I thought about it, it was like, OK, for me,
not really emergency for them like I thought it was.
So like I didn't really care that much if they didn't want to come in
and take care of it, whatever, like it's their property they are ruining.
So like sometimes those things that come up, they're actually
if it's up to you to decide if they're emergency or not for you.
And sometimes it doesn't even really impact the tenant that much.
And like I think of something that or a gas that would really impact them
was they can't get into the property.
We have like three different backup ways that's like automated
through hospitable that they can actually get access into the property
where, you know, that's not going to be something I need to be available for.
So I think sometimes it's like worse for you
than it actually is for the tenant or guest.
Now we're going to show you exactly how you can get into that first property
and scale it up.
So let's talk a little bit about the stack method.
So the stack method popularized, as far as I know,
on the BPR, the Bigger Pockets Real Estate Podcast,
that's where I first started, at least.
But basically, the idea here is that you start with a traditional single family
home, then you buy a duplex, then you buy a fourplex,
then you buy an eightplex, then you buy a sixteenplex and you buy a 32plex.
And basically with every subsequent transaction,
you just get a little bit bigger on each deal.
And it's that kind of gradual growth that that allows you to scale up
your portfolio with each subsequent deal.
Now, in this case, we're just going to start with the duplex.
Then we buy a triplex.
Then we buy a fourplex.
And that even by itself is nine units in three simple years. Right.
So it's starting small, testing, getting proof of concept,
going a little bit bigger and going a little bit bigger
and going a little bit bigger and stretching our comfort zone
just a bit with every subsequent deal.
OK, so let's start with an example.
You're going to buy a duplex as your first property.
Let's say it's going to be a $300,000 home.
So if it's going to be your primary residence, that's three and a half percent.
So $10,500 down compared to $60,000
if you were going to do a 20% down payment with this property.
We're not going to house hack it where a single family home
where you have to rent out the rooms.
We're going to give you your own unit and then you're going to rent out
the other unit.
You can take it to the extreme and you can still rent out the rooms
in your unit to really, really maximize the potential of house hacking.
So the next one is going to get rented out.
You're going to live in the property for one year
because this is what most mortgages require
when you buy it as your primary residence to live in the property for one year.
Then after that, you are going to move out
and you are going to buy a triplex.
OK, by this point, you should have more savings
because you lived for very little in this property
because your tenants were paying the majority of your mortgage.
And you also probably have a little equity
in that that residence over the course of the year.
So you could even tap into a home equity line of credit
where you can go ahead and get that onto the property
before you go and purchase another one.
So now you have access to some capital.
So you can move out of the duplex and move in to the triplex.
You're going to rent out the vacant unit in the duplex that you just moved out of.
So now your duplex is fully rented.
Do you have a mortgage on it?
And then you also have a line of credit.
You could use that line of credit to be your down payment on the next property.
Or you can just keep that there for, you know, reserves, rainy day fund.
But other ways, that's like capital that you have access to now, maybe to do rehab
with a triplex.
You're going to rent out two of the units and you're going to live in one of them.
OK. And once again, we're going to do the same thing.
Stash away as much rental income from these properties as possible
and save up to buy quadplex, fourplex.
Same thing. Tap into a line of credit before you actually move into the next deal.
So you have access to the capital.
When I got started, I had bought a bunch of properties
using a partner, using the funds that he had.
Then afterwards, he liked it so much.
We did two properties together.
Then he went and got a line of credit on his primary residence.
Then we use that to purchase properties and then we go and refinance,
pays line of credit back and we repeated that.
Then I actually built up some equity in the properties I bought myself.
I went out and got a line of credit, a commercial line of credit
on those investment properties.
And that's how I was able to purchase and pay for rehabs.
And I still use it to actually funnel money through to buy deals, to cover rehabs.
And then when I refinance, I go and pay them back off
and I just have it there to be able to repeat.
So you can do this as you scale from a duplex, a triplex, a quadplex.
So once you, you know, this is year three already, you're a quadplex.
You got a four unit, a three unit and a two unit right off the bat.
Now, that's nine units in a rental portfolio.
And you only had to buy three properties over the course of three years.
Tony is maybe like a comparison to this as what did it look like for you
buying short term rentals to buy your first three short term rentals?
Because you weren't house hacking and wasn't your primary residence.
What did the difference look like as far as like capital
and how easy it was to actually acquire three compared to doing it this way?
Yeah, my situation was slightly different
because I did have like a decently high paying W-2 income.
And we were only living on like a fraction of what I was making at work.
So we had we had a decent amount of like just money set aside
to fund our first three deals.
So the first year that we bought it was it was truly just with money
that I had from from work.
And how much did you put down on each of them, though?
It was 10% down on each one.
So like just already there's a big comparison of like
if you're house hacking it, putting only three and a half to five percent down
compared to 10. Yeah.
10%. Yeah.
Like our first one, it was like a 60K down payment.
And the second one, I think, was like a 40K down payment.
And then the next one, I think it was even like 30K, a little bit less. Right.
So like, yeah, we just have to fund that with with our cash flow.
But like like the story that I think about often,
I was just looking at the episode number, but episode 596 with Matt Kruger.
I love Matt's story because he's just got like a super simple,
super unsexy process for stacking his rentals.
Now, he did all single family homes.
But the thought process is the same as like he was living in a property,
stayed there for a year, bought the next one,
stayed there for a year, bought the next one.
And he did that every 12 to 18 months for like seven,
I think seven or 10 years.
And now he's got a really great portfolio.
You could do that same thing.
But now instead of just buying single family homes,
you're buying a duplex and then a threeplex, then a fourplex.
And it's like each subsequent deal helps you fund the next deal, right?
Because now you've got cash flow coming from property number one
that helps you buy property number two.
And then one and two help you buy property number three.
So the time between each deal can actually get shorter.
So I love Matt's story.
So episode 596, if you guys want to go back and hear how he stacked
a bunch of primary residences and turn that into a rental portfolio.
And I think too, it's like, you know,
there's multiple different ways to get started.
And, you know, this is just one example.
Tony's way is another example.
Like if you are a high income W-2 earner and you're stacking away cash,
like that is a very simple also game plan to use
is just actually pay the down payment that most people try to avoid,
where you're not going to be, you know, over leveraged.
You, you know, have more equity in the property because you're putting more down.
So there's advantages to both.
But I think like no matter what your situation is,
there's multiple options to be able to get into a property.
But if you need a place to live, you don't have a lot of money.
This is a really great game plan as to doing this house hacking strategy
with small multifamily to get started,
or even Matt Krieger's example of going through his timeline too.
Now let's run the numbers to show you that it actually is possible in 2026.
So we're going to go through an example property.
So here's two examples.
They're both around the same purchase price located on the same street.
And B class neighborhood.
So these are actually in West Allis, Wisconsin.
Never heard of it.
Never been.
Tony, have you?
I actually grew up there in West Allis, Wisconsin.
If you didn't know that now, I've never heard of West Allis.
And no, you know, no.
You don't really have the West, the Wisconsin accent.
Actually, a lot of people think I'm from Wisconsin.
I, you know, you do, you do have a little bit of Midwest twang.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So again, these are two separate properties.
One's a duplex, one's a single family home.
So we just want to walk through these numbers so we can see,
hey, what does the difference actually look like
and how these properties perform?
So the duplex, and editors will have you guys throw up some photos
so folks who are watching on YouTube can follow along with it here.
But the duplex, it's a two one.
So two bedroom, one bath on each side.
It's a 330 purchase price.
We'll assume a three and a half percent down payment if we're house hacking.
On that, we'll have a mortgage of about $2,800.
And the rental income per unit,
and again, these are approximations, is about $1,575.
Now, if we were to just buy this as a rental, 20% down,
there'd be a $66,000 down payment
and your mortgage would be about $2,400 per month,
you know, ballpark at today's rates, right?
So if we're house hacking, again, three and a half percent down,
our numbers look roughly like this.
About $2,000 for principal and interest.
Another $150, give or take, for mortgage insurance.
$538 for property taxes.
$100 for insurance.
So we'll just call it about $2,800 per month, right?
So we got round numbers here.
Total rents of $3,150 minus $2,800 for your expenses,
we're at about $350 per month, okay, in cash flow.
Now, obviously, we're not renting out both units,
so like you're not necessarily making the whole $350
because you're going to pay that other $1,500 yourself,
your living expenses are still lower.
The other option at 20% down,
and again, just like ballpark numbers here,
we're at about $2,400 per month in total expenses.
Again, we'll just round that up there.
And if you've got $3,150 coming into rents,
again, $2,400 in expenses,
we're looking about $750 in cash flow on this deal.
So that's the duplex.
It's kind of what we're looking at
if we were to house hack the duplex.
So next, we're going to look at a single family home.
This one's built in 1925,
three bed, one bath, $300,000 purchase.
And we're going to say that we're doing a 20% down payment
at $60,000, and our mortgage payment
is going to be $2,180 per month.
In this area, you can expect to get about $2,100
per month for rental income on this.
So this property is pretty much breaking even
after your expenses.
But if you do factor in, like you should,
your vacancy and maintenance, it's actually negative.
So just to give you an idea,
we're looking at your principal and interest,
about $1,600, property tax, $475,
insurance around $100 per month.
So that's $2,171 per month.
And then after your rents are $2,100,
so $2,100 minus $2,180,
we're looking at negative $80 a month.
So traditionally, this does not look
like a good cashflow property
because it doesn't even cashflow.
So this is just in a comparison
as to how the single family home
actually compares to the duplex property.
So with the duplex, you actually have the opportunity
to offset your living expenses on day one.
So then when you actually decide to move out of the duplex
in 12 months and rent your unit out,
you're going to start cashflowing right away.
So that's just a comparison of same street,
same neighborhood, similar properties,
but yet one single family home and one duplex.
And Ash, I think you hit on a point that's important.
It's like people talk a lot
about how real estate investing is dead, right?
Like, hey, no deals work.
But a lot of times, it's the strategy.
We have two properties on the same exact street
with very different outcomes
in terms of potential profitability
and the quality of those investments.
So guys, a lot of times, it really just comes down to,
can you find the right strategy
in the right market and the right property?
If you can combine those elements together,
well then, yeah, there are deals to be had.
But yeah, maybe plopping down 20% on an A-class property
isn't going to produce the best cashflow today.
That's okay.
We adjust the strategy to find what actually is working.
But guys, there are people every single day,
every single day, people are closing on deals
that are producing cashflow, right?
You just got to find the right opportunity.
Now, we actually went through and found
some of these sweet spot potential markets
for you guys to save you some of the legwork.
But before we reveal them,
make sure that you are verifying
and doing your own market research on these markets
because just because they work for one investor
doesn't mean that they'll actually work for you.
Depends on what strategy, what asset class,
what type of property, the actual property you buy,
if it's going to be a good deal or not.
But oftentimes, these sweet spot markets
are found in the Midwest, Southeast, kind of the Sunbelt,
and even in a little of the Mountain West region.
So number one, Kansas City, Missouri.
Indianapolis, Indiana.
Then we have Cincinnati, Ohio.
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma,
which I actually took a trip to,
I think it was last summer.
And then Louisville, Kentucky.
Columbus, Ohio.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
where I'm actually going tomorrow.
We've got Chicago, Illinois.
Greenville, South Carolina.
And Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
So those are just some of the markets
that we put together.
Of course, there are many, many more.
If you are watching this on YouTube though,
let us know in the comments
if you are actually investing in any of these markets.
And maybe if you have the time,
like give us a little deal breakdown.
What do your deals actually look like
that you have bought in these markets?
So let's kind of recap here.
When analyzing markets,
try to look for small multifamily.
Duplexes, triplexes, and quadplexes.
The next thing you should be looking for
when doing market research is strong job growth
and also population growth.
You want to make sure that people aren't leaving the area
and there goes all your potential renters,
that there's actually strong jobs available
and make sure there's multiple industries.
I was actually listening
to a BiggerPocketsMoney episode the other day
and Mindy was talking about,
you know, market that she had lived in
where there was like one big factory
or industry in the town and it shut down
and literally everybody left
and the town just kind of like depleted to nothing.
And so make sure there's several industries
actually supporting that town and that city
and not just one industry.
And guys, you can go through the catalog.
We talked about so many different episodes of,
okay, what makes a market a good market?
BPRE, the BiggerPockets Real Estate podcast on the market,
it's a lot of like topical market-related things.
But the piece of advice that I always share
with rookie investors is that I think oftentimes
they overcomplicate market selection.
The truth is that there are 20,000 plus cities
in the United States.
So the chances of there being only one right market
for you to invest into, that's not the case.
There are hundreds, if not thousands of places
that you can go across the United States
and still be a successful investor.
So the goal isn't to find the one specific market.
The goal is to simply find, again,
three to five markets that align
with your specific goals of investing
and then focusing on those markets.
And if you can do that, we can take away
some of that analysis paralysis that folks tend to feel
when it comes to choosing the right market.
So when you're looking at your new market,
just a couple other things to kind of look at
is just make sure it's within your budget.
And also that the prices are actually affordable
to what the rents are.
So the rent to price ratio is as to,
you're not paying 500,000, but you can only rent it
for $500 per month.
And then also look at kind of the supply
and the demand in the area for not only rentals,
but also what is new development?
Are you going to be competing with new builds
that are coming into the area that are going
to saturate the supply in the area?
There's so many other things you can look at.
You can go to biggerpockets.com slash resources.
And we actually have a page of checklists,
templates, downloadables that you can download.
And there's several on there that can help you,
guide you through selecting a market
and different things that you should look at.
So when selecting a market, you have two options.
You can try your own market.
That's how I started.
I didn't know any better.
I just thought you had to invest
because you needed to be near the property
to go look at the property, to manage the property.
Or you can invest, they call it out of state,
but out of your area, so means, and both work.
I would start, if you're going to start not where you live,
start picking markets to look at,
to analyze where you already have an advantage or a leg up.
Maybe you have a boot on the ground.
You have somebody there.
Maybe you've lived there in the past.
Maybe your family is from there.
So use those as a starting point
where you already have an advantage,
or maybe you have a great agent already
that knows that area.
But either way, get started
because there are deals out there in 2026.
Thank you guys so much for joining us.
I'm Ashley, he's Tony,
and we'll see you guys on the next episode.