The Lindsay Clancy case is one of those stories that becomes more complicated the deeper you look.
On January 24, 2023, three young children lost their lives, and their mother, Lindsay Clancy, was accused of killing them. Since then this case has sparked an enormous conversation about postpartum mental health, criminal responsibility, medication, marriage, and what was happening inside the Clancy home leading up to that night.
In this video, I’m going down the entire rabbit hole... the timeline, Lindsay’s reported mental state, the events surrounding that night, Patrick Clancy’s account, details that have raised questions online, and the arguments coming from both sides of the case.
My goal isn’t to tell you what to believe, but to lay out the information, separate documented facts from speculation where possible, and talk about the questions that still remain.
This case involves the deaths of children, suicide-related content, and discussions of mental health. Please watch with care.
After watching, I want to know what YOU think. Did anything stand out to you? Is there a detail you think deserves more attention? Let’s discuss it respectfully in the comments
This video examines the tragic case of Lindsay Clancy, a nurse accused of killing her three children. It contrasts the official legal narrative—which focuses on an insanity plea rooted in postpartum psychosis—with alternative theories suggesting her husband, Patrick, may have been involved or framed her. The analysis weighs medical evidence, digital forensics, and timeline discrepancies against the harrowing reality of mental illness.
I'm starting to get convinced that this trial is going to make history.
Okay, I think that he took the kids, had them go in the basement.
They don't want me to talk about this and I think it's because I'm onto something.
These are the two blood marks you can see zoomed out where you can see the window.
This is what it looks like to me. This.
That she was hanging upside down out of the window.
I cannot be the only one that thinks something is off.
You know what the nail in the coffin for Patrick is?
Not knowing his wife could not speak.
I really didn't have any desire to cover this topic because I don't love true crime.
It's kind of a draining topic.
It's just so depressing, especially this specific case.
For obvious reasons, this one is very difficult to cover.
I also think that this is one of the most interesting cases I've ever seen because of what it's doing to online communities.
I've just never seen anything like this where someone who is not even a suspect is being absolutely crucified online.
If you've been living under a rock and you have no idea what I'm talking about, I will give a brief summary of what this is about.
I'm going to assume most of you know what I'm talking about.
And I'm also going to assume most of you already have a pretty solidified opinion on what you think is going on.
I feel like I'm pretty open-minded and my opinion has kind of changed day by day.
Sometimes I'm like, oh my gosh, like this makes sense.
And then other days I'm, I don't know.
I don't know. I have a lot of opinions on this, so we're going to get into that.
I've had a sore throat the last few days, so I needed to have a drink on standby.
I can already tell we'll probably be talking for quite some time today.
Oh, I did not clean my laptop.
Dang it.
If there's like disgusting fingerprints on this thing, I'm sorry.
Noted next time.
I will make sure that it's not disgusting.
All right, so here's the thing.
I am not trying to LARP as Nancy Drew.
Okay, I know I'm not a detective and I know that I don't know pretty much anything about this.
All I know is what has been shown throughout the trial, the evidence that has been provided, and also the insane amount of rabbit holes through TikTok that have gone down.
Okay, so I've seen everything you could possibly see regarding this case.
And I do think there is a lot of misinformation.
And this is why I want to bring this up because there have been many times where I have stumbled across information and I was like, oh, my gosh, smoking gun type of information only to find out it was not true.
And there is zero evidence of that.
So what I think is going on is a lot of people take that information that they're just finding without finding the resources and then they continue to talk about it online.
So everything I am sharing, I will have resources down below.
We're going to first talk about, oh, I have not even mentioned what we're talking about.
I mean, obviously, if you click on the video, you know, but we are talking about the Lindsay Clancy case.
This is a trial that is ongoing.
So as you are watching this, there has not been a verdict reached.
And this is regarding the deaths of her three children.
Again, I've already mentioned I don't want to really get into true crime because I'm not, I don't love, I don't love it.
I have also wasted so much of my existence on this topic that I'm like, I might as well share my findings with you guys.
And I really want to know your opinions as well.
So that's why we're covering this.
And maybe I will do a follow up.
We will see when everything is said and done.
Question in this trial is not whether or not Lindsay Clancy did this.
OK, she is pleading not guilty for reasons of insanity.
Also, no, Patrick was not home.
Her husband, Patrick, was not home during these murders.
He came home to discover the most horrific scene you could imagine.
And as of right now, he is not a suspect.
OK, he's never been a suspect.
Now we are going to get into weird sus things, OK?
We're going to cover that.
But I'm just saying right now, he's not a suspect.
Lindsay Clancy was on leave from Massachusetts General Hospital, which is one of the best hospitals in the country.
And she is a labor and delivery nurse.
On January 24th, her husband left to pick up food and a prescription.
While he was gone, she killed three of her children and then attempted to take her life by jumping from a second story window.
Obviously, she lived, but she is paralyzed from the waist down.
She has never claimed that she did not do it.
In fact, she does have a written testimony, a confession.
And this is something that I want to read because a lot of people are like, when did she confess?
I don't see a confession anywhere.
And I did find it.
So Lindsay Clancy and her husband filed a civil medical malpractice and wrongful death lawsuit against her doctors, nurse practitioners and health systems that treated her prior to the January 2023 death of their three children.
The complaints allege that her medical team failed to diagnose postpartum bipolar psychosis, overmedicated her with a dangerous combination of drugs and ignored escalating warning signs.
So this is the 29 page document.
And on page, I will have this pulled up, page 19.
Let me get it.
This is where the confession begins.
This is the events of the day.
Here it is.
On January 24th, 2023, Lindsay woke severely depressed with suicidal thoughts.
She gave the children breakfast.
She took Cora to the pediatrician because Cora complained of a stomach ache.
Later, she went to the backyard with the children.
She built a snowman and sent a picture to Patrick and her mother.
The suicidal hallucinations continued all day, nonstop.
Later in the afternoon, the voice began saying, you should harm the children.
Lindsay thought about dinner and realized she had not prepared anything.
She asked Patrick about takeout.
She looked at a map to see how long it would take because she did not want to be alone and needed help.
As soon as Patrick left to pick up the food, there was a loud, demanding, repetitious voice.
This is your last chance.
Kill the children so you can kill yourself.
This is your last chance.
You have to kill the kids so you can kill yourself.
Lindsay felt a force come over her.
Lindsay experienced command auditory hallucinations.
A demanding, powerful male voice explicitly ordered her.
She felt an overwhelming, irresistible compulsion to comply,
entering a disassociative, dreamlike state where her physical actions felt utterly disconnected from her conscious volition.
I don't know what that word is.
She perceived her body was just acting and she was merely watching herself do it.
She reported she had no choice but to follow these compelling directives.
Lindsay described, I lost all control.
My body started acting without any control on my part.
I was just following commands.
All action.
The voice demanded action.
I don't want to read this sentence, but she uttered, go to God, baby.
This is what she said that she said to each of her children.
Following these acts, she undertook a severe suicide attempt, ingesting a substantial quantity of various medications,
self-inflicting lacerations to her wrist and neck and jumping from a second floor window approximately 20 feet below to the ground.
She's now paralyzed.
Line 83 says Cora and Dawson died on January 24th, 2023.
Callan succumbed to his injuries and died on January 27th, 2023.
Lindsay consistently maintains her actions were compelled by a hallucinatory voice, not a conscious decision,
and she expresses profound, enduring love for her children.
That is the confession.
And this is, we're going to get into this lawsuit here in a minute.
But the argument online is pretty 50-50.
Okay.
I've seen a lot of people saying there's no way that she did this.
This was 100% the husband.
He framed her.
The crazy thing is there's I can see both sides because I have seen enough odd,
suspicious behavior or things that have come to light on Patrick's end that I can see why people think this.
But we also can't discredit the fact that she did confess.
Now, people's argument on this is, is she confessing because she might have thought she did it, but she actually didn't.
Now, as far as the case goes, there isn't a debate on who did it.
They have the confession.
They have the evidence against Lindsay.
Lindsay's lawyer is arguing something the law calls lack of criminal responsibility.
Most people call this the insanity plea.
Also know this trial, I think, is supposed to be six to eight weeks.
And I think we're on week four.
We might be on week five right now.
So this is still ongoing and we don't have a verdict.
Here's another thing to note.
Massachusetts does not use the word insanity.
It uses a test from a 1967 case called Commonwealth versus McCall.
So this document that I mentioned earlier, this is the front page.
You can see right here, Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
So this is actually what this entire trial is about.
There's a researcher that I have been following pretty closely and his name is Neil K. Shaw.
And he explained it like this.
Picture two doors.
The defense only has to go through one of them.
Door number one is at the time, did she lack the ability to understand what she was doing was wrong?
And then door number two is even if she did understand it was wrong, did she have the ability to stop herself?
So it's either did she know what she was doing or was she able to control herself?
Those are the two doors that the defense can go through.
All of the news stories are discussing door one.
Was she understanding of what she was doing?
But nobody is really covering or talking about this second door.
Was she able to control herself?
And if you read that concession, it doesn't sound like she was.
Based off of that, I think she has a really strong chance of the insanity plea.
40 years ago, Congress passed a law that removed that second door from all federal cases.
A lot of states copy this within a few years.
And Kansas, Montana, Idaho, and Utah got rid of the insanity plea altogether.
Massachusetts, on the other hand, kept both doors open.
So there are some states that don't even have this law.
And then Massachusetts is over here with both.
Another thing to be aware of is in federal court, if you claim insanity, you have to prove it.
On the other hand, in Massachusetts, once the defense shows enough evidence to raise a real question about mental illness,
the burden of proof moves to the prosecution.
That means the state has to prove she was in control beyond a reasonable doubt.
What are your thoughts on that?
Actually, I would love to know your opinion on that because based off of what I've seen so far,
I do think that her defense attorney is giving exactly reasonable doubt.
And I don't see a jury coming to the conclusion that she was in control.
That's what I personally think.
Again, this is not over.
So there's a lot that still could come forward.
But my personal opinion is I think that she will get off on insanity.
Again, based off of everything that we've seen so far.
Before we continue, I do want to share this clip from Neal K. Shaw's video discussing postpartum psychosis.
Because ultimately, I think that bringing awareness to postpartum psychosis might be the one good thing that came from this case.
I had never heard of this.
Obviously, we've all heard of postpartum depression.
But to recognize and understand the signs of this, I think is the most important thing, again, that could come out of this.
The defining feature of postpartum psychosis is that it comes and goes.
Someone can be perfectly clear at 2 o'clock in the afternoon and deeply confused by it at night.
Then clear again in the morning.
If you've cared for an older adult, you may already have seen this pattern.
There, it's called delirium.
And it's extremely common, especially in hospitalized older adults.
It also gets missed constantly.
And people miss it for one specific reason.
They say she seemed fine an hour ago.
I think that sentence is a trap.
In both of these conditions, the good hours are not proof that the person is okay.
The coming and going is the illness.
Being normal part of the time is a symptom, but it's not reassurance.
So here's what to actually do.
And it works for a new mother and for an 80-year-old facing delirium.
Don't just judge by one moment.
Write things down over several days and write down the time.
If someone is sharp in the morning and confused at night, that swing is what to report to the doctor.
Not just the good hours, not just the bad hours, but the on and off pattern.
And if someone tells you about a thought that frightens them, the most important question isn't what the thought was.
It's whether it still frightens them.
When a person stops being scared of a thought like that, get help immediately.
That is the greatest moment of risk.
Please share this part with others.
Most people have never heard it, and I think it could be genuinely useful.
I'm going to now leave up this medical treatment timeline.
So this is from the moment that Lindsay was claiming like something is wrong
to January 24th of the day of the murders.
So September 12th, three days prior to her first formal appointment,
detailing increasing anxiety ahead of her planned return to work as a labor and delivery nurse.
I'm leaving this up on the screen.
You guys can just take a screenshot or push pause.
I don't want to go through all of this, but she did try.
I've seen other videos where they're like she had every resource and she clearly did not try.
I think the opposite is true.
I think she really did try because she was a nurse and a labor and delivery nurse at that.
She was fully aware of the signs and symptoms of postpartum depression.
I believe she was really trying to fix this problem.
This just is awful.
This whole thing is awful all around. I hate it.
Okay, sorry, guys. I had to take a break.
My camera only records for 30 minutes at a time, and then it shuts off.
And it doesn't tell me when it shuts off. I just have to hopefully time myself.
I think this might be a good time to now shift over to all the sus behavior, okay?
I see why people are up in arms and thinking they want to blame Patrick.
Okay, the Internet is absolutely, again, crucifying this man.
There are some people that are like, there's no way you could convince me it was Lindsay.
I've definitely had my moments where I have like made phone calls to friends.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I think Patrick did it.
And then I wasn't actually aware of the confession.
So when I found that, I was like, oh, well.
But then there's people that are like, did she make that confession?
Or is this like, did the lawyer write this for her?
Trying to sue the medical staff.
Again, I'm not going to pretend like I actually know everything about this case.
These are just things that the online community is talking about.
And so I want to get your opinion.
What do you think is going on?
The next part of this video, I want to go through the holes or the sus behavior of this case.
And this is why people are confused or think that there's more to the story.
And I am somebody, again, I'm a very open-minded person.
If you're going to show me facts about something, I will 100%.
I can change my mind at any time.
Show me weird sus things.
I'm going to think things are sus, right?
Here's one of the first ones.
Okay, so she apparently searched.
And do I know how to say this word?
Carotid artery.
Carotid, is that the right way to say it?
During Lindsay Clancy's ongoing murder trial,
digital forensics testimony revealed that her phone history included a Google search
for where is the carotid artery.
What do you mean?
This woman is a nurse.
She knows where your arteries are, okay?
Her defense attorney, Kevin Reddington, highlighted this search along with others,
how to slit your throat and die.
The defense presented these searches to illustrate her severe psychiatric crisis
and support an insanity defense based on postpartum psychosis.
So what they are trying to say is, look at these searches that Lindsay made.
She is fully aware of where these arteries are.
She knows how to slit a wrist if she wanted to die.
She already knows.
Her brain must not have been operating correctly for her to be Googling stuff like this.
Does that make sense?
So that's what the defense is saying.
However, the rest of the Internet is saying there ain't no way Lindsay's making these searches.
This is Patrick.
Patrick is looking up how to kill her, and he's using her phone to do the search
so it'll come back looking like it was her.
Does that make sense?
This is the online argument.
That is a little bit suspicious, but the defense is using it against Lindsay,
saying clearly she wasn't well.
Okay, let me actually clear this one up too,
because there was a time where Lindsay supposedly was searching something about suicide.
And this was back in August 2023, I believe.
August 23rd, 2022, for this specific online activity that I'm referring to,
involved a search using suicide methods,
which prosecutors initially cited as evidence and early planning.
However, during trial testimony, the defense revealed a conflict with this narrative
by proving Lindsay Clancy was actually getting her son Dawson checked for an ear infection
at a doctor's office at the exact time these searches were occurring.
Now, also, there was actually never a search of how to commit suicide.
This is what people are thinking and what the online community is repeating or regurgitating.
That was actually not the case.
The extraction only pulled that the term suicide was pulled.
You go back and look at every single movement that was made.
Patrick had searched up Tom Hall, who had died by suicide in 2021,
which then he looked up how he died.
So there was never an actual search of how to commit suicide.
It was Patrick was looking up Tom Hall.
And from that, he then looked up how he committed suicide.
They basically threw this out because this was not anything.
Hopefully that clears that up, because that was something I was very suspicious of.
I'm like, wait a minute, so we can pin Patrick doing these searches.
But then if you actually look into it, he wasn't searching suicide.
He was searching Tom Hall and then clicked a link from there.
So that's that's the series of events.
But that doesn't mean there aren't still sus behavior, because we're going to get into that.
I also think it's odd that her body temperature was 82 degrees when she got to the hospital.
All right. Some people assume that this shifts the timeline quite a bit.
And that's safe to assume that.
I'm going to show you here.
This is how long it would take for your body to drop to that temperature.
So if you are just in cold air, it can take eight to 12 hours of being in prolonged exposure to get to that temperature.
OK, so in cold water, water conducts heat away from the body roughly 24 times faster.
So in near freezing water, severe hypothermia and unconsciousness can set in within 15 to 30 minutes.
And then the role of trauma and shock.
If a person suffers a severe spinal cord injury, which is what she did,
the nervous system loses its ability to constrict blood vessels and protect core heat.
And these rare trauma scenarios, the body loses heat much faster,
though reaching 82 degrees still typically requires at least one to two hours.
And it can be longer depending on like what kind of clothing that they're wearing.
I remember this clear as day because it was the coldest I'd ever seen a human body.
And they were 87 degrees.
87 degrees after over an hour in glacier water, fully submerged, blood loss.
I'm sure they were in shock.
I'm sure they were dead.
They were dead.
They had been dead in that water for over an hour.
And they were still warmer than Lindsay Clancy was after 15 minutes in the snow.
I am losing my mind.
I have never seen neurogenic shock cause more than three degrees Celsius of change
in the human body, in a living person.
Dead bodies do not even cool that fast.
Dead bodies do not cool 16 degrees Fahrenheit in 15 to 30 minutes,
which is what they are saying happened to her.
And then after transport to the hospital,
during which time they would have been trying to aggressively rewarm her,
her core temp after reaching the hospital was still 82 degrees.
That does not make any medical sense at all.
Someone is lying. Someone is lying.
There is no amount of drugs, trauma, and neurogenic shock,
even when combined, that will make you cool faster than a dead body.
That is not possible. Period.
Okay. So this is why everyone, I think it's like,
this is a huge part or a huge hole where people are trying to make sense of it.
Because what do you mean?
She's 82 degrees and this whole crime happened.
We're going to get into the timeframe of that actually.
Let me pull that up.
The other frustrating thing for people is there is 15 minutes that are unaccounted for,
for Patrick.
So this is the timeline of events.
According to everybody,
he went to go, go get food and run to CVS to get some Pedialyte.
He was first stopping at CVS because at 5.15,
Lindsay had text him to go to CVS and get this Pedialyte.
And he claims that he left before that or around the timeframe.
So we're going to say he left the house at 5.15 PM.
He arrived at CVS at 5.32.
However, CVS is three minutes away.
So already people are like, that's weird.
Why did it take you so long?
I will say there are many times where I run an errand and I sit in the car for a long time.
Again, I'm not saying he is or isn't lying, but how many of us sit in the car sometimes?
As far as I'm aware, they do not have any video surveillance of the outside of CVS,
which is a little annoying because that would help us know when he actually arrived to CVS.
Again, the drive is three minutes.
He walks in the doors of CVS at 5.32.
The other odd thing is at 5.24 PM from his Surface Pro, which is his laptop at home,
there was an email sent.
He had sent an email at 5.24.
So it's like, okay, were you still at home?
Which that could be the case.
Maybe you hadn't left yet.
But in his testimony, he said he had already left at 5.15.
So that's why people are like, well, what's the truth?
Where were you?
And how did you send an email at 5.24 PM from the home if you were not home?
So there's 15 minutes of missing time.
While he was at CVS, he tried to call her because apparently the PD light was out of stock.
Again, online sleuths have proved that wasn't true because you can see surveillance and it wasn't out of stock.
I mean, these people online are going hard.
People are claiming that he changed his shoes and his coat.
Okay, so I'm going to pull up two different images, him at the restaurant, him at CVS.
What do you guys think?
Did he change his shoes?
I don't actually know.
I don't have an opinion on that.
I don't know if he changed his shoes.
I really, I don't know.
They're like, the soles are different.
Those soles are white and these ones are black.
I don't know.
Again, the internet is not letting this man.
He ain't getting away with anything.
He's not a suspect right now.
So apparently there was a phone call once he arrived to CVS that he called Lindsay.
She didn't answer.
Then she called back and he said, can I get the generic brand?
And she said yes.
And he claimed it sounded like she was in the middle of doing something.
So it was kind of a quick phone call.
The online assumptions are that he actually took her Apple watch with him and he did the crime.
He went there for an alibi to get him on video surveillance and he was calling himself.
That's what he's being accused of online.
That he took her Apple watch and was calling himself.
The other really strange thing is the nanny cams were not working that day because apparently the Wi-Fi was out.
The Wi-Fi had been working earlier that day because he was working from home.
But at this time of the killings, the cameras just weren't working, which of course everyone's like, how convenient.
The cameras weren't working.
Why?
Here's another thing because of the Wi-Fi being out.
Patrick claimed when he got home and discovered this horrific scene that it took him several minutes to call 9-1-1 because he could not connect.
Now I've seen so many people claiming that 9-1-1 calls can bypass Wi-Fi.
I would actually have agreed.
However, I am someone that can actually defend this and let me explain.
The last house that I lived at, we lived there for 10 years.
If you were not connected to Wi-Fi, there was zero service.
It did not matter if you try to call 9-1-1.
You could not make a single phone call.
And all of my neighbors can attest this is true.
There was a time a few years ago where I was out in the street and I was trying to call 9-1-1 and it was not going through.
And I shouted at my neighbor who was going into her house.
I shouted for her to call 9-1-1.
She had to go in her house to call because there is zero service if you're outside.
I am one of the rare people that has actually experienced this where I've tried to call 9-1-1 without Wi-Fi and it didn't work.
I can at least defend in this particular situation.
Originally, you know, I'm like, yeah, you can still call 9-1-1.
I'm like, wait a minute.
I'm actually somebody that has tried when I didn't have Wi-Fi service.
If I was here, I can call without, I can call anybody without Wi-Fi service.
But the last house I lived at, you couldn't.
Okay, the next suspicious thing people are claiming is the phone call, the supposed phone call of him calling 9-1-1.
They claim that phone call was suspicious.
Now the judge is holding that where we cannot hear it.
The only people that have heard it are people that have been in the courtroom.
I am going to play this video from a woman that was in the courtroom.
You can take it with a grain of salt.
Obviously, people are going to come in with like there.
Maybe there's people that are in there that are totally supporting Lindsay and maybe their opinion would be different.
This is one that I found.
She's claimed she's unbiased and this is what she has to say about the phone call.
So what I'm hearing some people say about Patrick Clancy is not supported by the 9-1-1 call.
You may have heard that he sounded too calm or that Lindsay Clancy was speaking incomplete sentences.
The whole thing doesn't add up.
Maybe it was staged.
Well, let me tell you.
I heard the 9-1-1 call.
I was in the courtroom when I played with journalists from mainstream media, independent media, citizen journalists, members of the public court staff, and the 18 jurors.
We sat in the same room and listened to it together.
And I completely understand why the fact that you can't hear it creates a vacuum.
The judge has impounded the 9-1-1 recording, the media.
We can report what we heard, but we cannot play it for you.
And when you don't have the evidence yourself, suspicion can sometimes fill the gap.
But some people have filled this particular gap with a story built on things that aren't actually on the call.
So let me tell you what I heard.
But first, I want to give you a little context.
In the 1980s, a lot of my friends were dying from HIV, AIDS-related illnesses, and most of them were under 30.
And one afternoon, I went with a group of people to tell a mother that her son had died.
I waited outside the apartment while his family went in.
He'd been terminally ill for a while.
She knew it was coming.
And still, the sound she made when she heard that her son was dead is a sound I have carried with me for 40 years.
Now, I've also sat in beautiful theaters and watched extraordinary actors perform grief.
Some of the best actors in the world, gifted, coached with incredible scripts.
And what I heard from Patrick Clancy when he found his children did not sound like a performance to me.
The screaming, the howling, the crying.
It immediately took me back to that doorstep in the 1980s.
And I'm never going to forget that 911 call.
Now, you can check me.
The published accounts from other reporters in the room described the call the same way.
Anguished, frantic, harrowing.
Now about what Lindsay said.
People online are saying things like she was coherent and clear and she had a conversation.
That's not at all what I heard.
She was moaning.
Her speech was difficult to make out.
The one word I could hear clearly was basement.
That's very different from the online claim that I keep seeing that she was calmly speaking in complete sentences.
Back to Patrick.
At the beginning of the call, it's chaotic.
He's panicked.
He talks over the dispatcher.
He's trying to find out where his kids are.
He's trying to deal with Lindsay.
And then his voice changes.
He becomes functional.
He listens.
He follows directions from the dispatcher.
That does not mean he became calm.
And then he goes into the house.
You can hear the moment his world changes.
He screams and howls for minutes.
And eventually gets out the words, she killed the kids.
The recording is impounded right now.
And maybe someday a court will allow it to become public.
I don't know.
But here's what I do know.
As someone who was in that room, what I heard does not support the version that is circulating online.
Now you can be skeptical.
You should be skeptical.
But skepticism means checking the evidence.
Not just filling in the parts you can't see with a theory.
Cora, Dawson, and Callen were not characters in some true crime story.
They were real children.
And Patrick Clancy is a real father who walked into the worst moment a parent can walk into.
So before you build a theory around what you think he should have sounded like, take a beat.
I'm Sue O'Connell.
I'm a commentator for NBC10Boston.com.
And I'm the courtroom insider for Commonwealth Confidential, the Lindsay Clancy trial.
I do want to include that the fact her thyroid was crushed.
She could not speak.
And so anyone that's saying she was like speaking in full sentences, that is a little bit suspicious.
Because according to all of the doctors that saw her after the fact, like when she got to the hospital,
she could not speak for I believe it was six days.
The woman on the phone call claimed that she heard the word basement.
She could hear Lindsay say basement.
And when Patrick is explaining what he heard her say, the children are in the basement.
Like that's a full sentence.
And I tried to commit suicide.
If she was able to utter a word, I don't think it was in a full sentence.
It probably was just like basement.
Maybe could hardly get that word out.
So I don't know.
What do you guys think about that?
And also, is it possible, I actually don't know this, but is it possible that maybe her condition worsened
and she could speak a little bit and then it got worse?
I don't know.
Another interesting thing is Patrick's DNA was all over the bands.
And apparently Lindsay's was not.
Okay.
Also fingerprints.
Now let me show you this.
The fingerprint evidence was not found.
It says state police investigators testified that they could not find usable fingerprints or impressions
suitable for comparison on either the exercise band or the knife found in the bedroom.
That's just weird.
Right?
How are her fingerprints not found on any of this?
Obviously that's another like people are like, that's a smoking gun.
Oh my gosh.
How do I bend him?
Because his DNA is all over the bands.
Also, maybe you weren't aware of this, but he did remove all of the bands from the children when he discovered them.
So obviously there's a reason his DNA would be on the bands.
And there is DNA of hers found on the bands, but it's like inconclusive.
It's not solid DNA in the way that Patrick's was discovered on the bands.
Was Patrick's fingerprint on the knife?
I don't know.
I don't know if they've even looked into that.
They just said that Lindsay's fingerprints were not found on the knife.
What do you mean?
What do you mean her fingerprints weren't found on the knife?
What the heck?
The other thing that's a little sus.
So Lindsay was found.
She had crushed pills in her system, which again, people will claim.
Obviously she didn't know she was taking this.
Like it was said that she had crushed pills in lemonade.
You could argue that that makes it work faster.
So maybe she did crush the pills, but this does make sense.
If someone's trying to take you out, they would put crushed pills in your drink.
So the crushed pills are a little bit weird, in my opinion.
The wrists that were slit in the wrong way.
And then she jumped out the window.
The other odd thing was the youngest child was able to be revived.
It does make the timeline a little interesting.
Because if you look at the timeframe of when the ambulance arrived
and how long it took for the youngest to be revived.
We're going to share this.
This is a TikTok.
Okay, we're going to share this video.
I want to know your opinions on this.
It is not scientifically possible for Lindsay to both have strangled Callen
and for her body to have been at 82 degrees.
I have been up for the past three nights until 2 a.m.,
trying to put this together like a puzzle because of my ADHD.
And I can't like not solve a puzzle.
Let me tell you guys how I got here.
Patrick claims to have left the house at 5.15 p.m.,
but he sent an email from Surface Pro at 5.24 p.m.
Very early in the trial, Patrick said Surface Pro was from his laptop.
When Reddington mentioned it later, you sent an email from what was it called?
Surface Pro?
At that point, Patrick responded from my laptop.
So this is the second time he said Surface Pro was from his laptop.
Once Patrick sees the email and the timestamp,
that is when he backtracks and says, well, it could have been from my phone.
But Reddington already knows that it was sent from his laptop
and not his phone because he has the forensics.
And that's why it was submitted to evidence.
So that puts Patrick at the home at 5.24 p.m.
That means the soonest he could have left would have been 5.25 p.m.,
which means the latest he could have left would have been 5.29 p.m.
because he walked through the doors of CVS at 5.32.
From 5.25 to 5.29 is when Patrick actually left the house.
Now, there's been no CVS footage from outside when he pulled in and at what time.
And there are cameras outside.
So we need to see when he pulled in to give us a more accurate time of when he left the home.
That means at maximum, he'd been gone for nine minutes.
At minimum, he'd been gone for five.
At 5.32 p.m., he walks into CVS.
At 5.33 p.m., he calls Lindsay to say they don't have Pedialax, but they have Generic.
We now know this is a lie because on the crime scene,
you see the name brand Pedialax through the bag.
One minute later, 5.34, is when Lindsay calls him back.
So the moment that Lindsay calls Patrick back,
this is when her movement in the house stops being tracked,
and it leaves her at the top floor of the house.
We do not know that she left upstairs after that.
That gives her a maximum of nine minutes from the time he left until that phone call.
Her toxicology reports say that the Seroquel levels in her system were double that of a therapeutic dose,
which is sedating, so is that why she stopped moving upstairs?
All of that brings us to 5.35 p.m.,
which is the soonest time it would have been possible for Lindsay to jump.
5.55 p.m. is when Patrick leaves the restaurant.
The drive time is between 10 and 12 minutes.
This places him at the home somewhere between 6.05 and 6.07.
At 6.11 is when 9-1-1 is called.
Patrick claims he was having trouble calling 9-1-1,
but we all obviously know now that this is a lie
because 9-1-1 calls bypass any sort of service errors you may have.
Okay, so this is really where it shifts.
At 6.15 is when the first responders arrive.
Callan arrived to the ER somewhere between 6.30 and 6.40,
but because I'm trying to, like, give everything the benefit of the doubt,
I'm using the earliest times possible, so let's say 6.30.
It is on record that 10 minutes after the ambulance arrived to the emergency room,
10 minutes after, they were able to start Callan's heartbeat backup.
In order for them to get the heartbeat back with an infant in those circumstances,
the longest his heartbeat could not have been going was 30 minutes, right?
And that's already rare.
Like, the most rare, like, one-in-a-million chance would be 45 minutes.
So if Callan's heartbeat restarted at 6.40,
30 minutes, which is extreme, would have been 6.10.
Patrick was home at 6.07.
There is a psychotic, like I said, once-in-a-million shot
that they're able to get the heartbeat back after 45 minutes max,
but even that puts his strangulation at 5.55.
If he was strangled at 5.55, that never would have given Lindsay time
for her to jump from the window and for her body to drop to 82 degrees.
Even with all of her injuries, it is scientifically impossible
for him to be strangled at 5.55 p.m.,
for her to jump and her body to be at 82 degrees,
even with all the injuries she had.
One of the claims that they're making is that she got off the phone with him
and that that's when she jumped.
But if that were the case, if Callan had been out since 5.35 p.m.,
they never in a million years would have been able to bring back a heartbeat.
Feel free, if you were a medical professional, to correct me on any of this,
but I know it was him. I know it was him.
Now, when it comes to Patrick, the question is,
what would his motive be? Why would you do this?
And this is why everyone is calling him Chris Watts.
People are actually calling him Chris Watts,
because this is kind of what Chris Watts tried to do.
He tried to frame his wife and said,
she's the one that killed the kids, and then he killed her.
But the truth is, he wanted a new life.
And if you're looking at a motive, he has raised 1.7 million in a GoFundMe.
He is remarried. He either has a child or she's...
Let me look that up real fast, actually.
Does he have a child or is she pregnant?
Because it's saying that there's not any confirmation showing he has a new child.
I've heard she's either expecting or they already have a child.
So he's remarried. He has a whole new life.
He also moved from Massachusetts to New York four months after the fact,
and he had been traveling there for some time before.
That's where his new wife lives.
So there's obviously people accusing him of having an affair
and was wanting out of his life.
I don't know. What do you guys think?
Some people think, you know, Lindsay did it,
but Patrick should be charged with negligence.
He should have known and should not have left her alone.
You know, it does say, yes, Lindsay Clancy did tell Patrick Clancy
that she was having intrusive thoughts about harming their children.
And again, the problem is with postpartum psychosis,
you can look totally normal one minute,
and within 20 minutes, something could trigger a psychotic outbreak.
And I think that's what's so sad and what's so scary about this.
Again, in Patrick's defense, he was like, she was having a great day.
I had no reason to be concerned about her.
When the reality is those children should probably have gone with family for weeks.
Like they should have been removed from the home
until she got out of whatever this was.
And that's the thing, like this is the debate
because Lindsay did check herself into a hospital
and then she left, I think, after five days.
She was trying and she kept thinking she could beat this.
And then the worst thing that could happen is what ended up happening.
I guess I want to leave it with this.
What are your thoughts on this case?
I have never seen anything like this in my life.
Do you think Patrick should be charged with negligence?
Do you think there's more to the story?
Do you think Lindsay even did this?
Do you think they were having marriage problems and he was cheating on her?
Like, what are your thoughts and opinions?
And then if there's anything major that I missed,
please leave that below in the comments as well.
I'm so curious to see how this turns out.
So curious.
You know, some of you might say Patrick won
because he ended up having a whole new life
and has millions of dollars.
But if he's innocent, which he is, he's not a suspect,
how awful to discover your family this way.
I honestly cannot even imagine.
I don't even want to repeat it.
I cannot think about it.
The actual, like what the actual crime was.
I'll get super emotional and that's not what I intended to do.
Not that I can be lighthearted about this topic
because you kind of can't,
but this is why I don't think true crime is my thing
because I'll get too invested and emotional in these stories.
It's awful.
Anyway, those are my thoughts.
Curious about yours.
Drop them in the comments.
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