TMZ Live - 8/31/26

Welcome to TMZ Live. A stunner today in court. David's lawyers have left the case. They are no longer representing him. And David is going to be represented by a public defender because he's broke. Yeah, that's exactly, that's the phrase that was used in court. They said indigent, but we call it broke. And which is stunning for a guy who has made a lot of money. We found out through this investigation, during this investigation, that he had made $11 million from Interscope. And just, that's just Interscope, not to mention concerts and everything else. Right. And you know, and the weird thing about this. He doesn't, he was not, we could see anyway, living in a lavish, he was in a rented home. Rented home, there's nothing you see that's luxurious about his life. The only thing luxurious about his life is the Tesla. Right, but that's it. And you know, you gotta wonder, how did this happen? But that's why the lawyers left. The lawyers told us that they still support him. And you know, I think this is a pretty clear case that lawyers just can't work for free. And this is gonna be a long, difficult case. And you just can't do that if you run a law firm. You can't do it. Can he do, get a, this is not reflecting on their ability as lawyers, but to have a public defender on a case like this, like what I've always heard is that public defenders, they're good lawyers, but they don't have resources. They're great lawyers. They have a lot of reps. They're very familiar with the system, but they have enormous caseload. And so to devote enough attention to a serious murder case like this, he assembled a top flight legal team. And without that, it's gonna be hard to sort of prosecute the case to his liking. Well, we don't know, and we don't know. I mean, they're very effective lawyers. We don't know, they're very effective. Absolutely. And one of the reasons they're effective is it's one thing to be a really good lawyer. It's another thing to be a good litigator, somebody who is in court. And public defenders are in court all the time. And look. They're familiar, repeat players, know the judges, everything. He had a really stellar legal team, private lawyers. But now that they're gone, there are, public defenders are in court more than most lawyers. Constantly. And when you're in court, you have experience. So they can do this job. It's just, what is their case gonna be like? That's right. They do this job all the time, but they have a lot of cases, and this is obviously, you want the attention of the lawyer on your case. We saw this for a few weeks with Nick Reiner, also was another high-profile murder case. His was a little different because there's a trust. Right. And he was trying to get at the trust money, which he's still trying to do. I mean, it looks like he's gonna get it. But he had a public defender. Well, this makes you wonder with David, whether the money, the 11 million from Interscope, and all of his endorsements, and whatever, is accessible. Whether the money is available to him to use. We don't know. Well, no, we do know. Well, we do know it's not. Right, it's not available. So what happened to the $11 million? That's a really good question. Baffled by this whole, and the only thing I can think, and I don't know what sums of money Interscope paid him, but a lot of times when labels pay an artist, they pay it as an advance. And they pay a portion as an advance. And they recoup it when they make money on the album. And then they recoup it when they make money, when they put music out. Well, at this point, if you're Interscope, wouldn't you be thinking, this guy's not gonna be putting out music, because there's a, at least, the evidence that they've seen so far, they may be thinking, he's not gonna be putting out music. We better claw back that advance. So what did Interscope pay David? Did they pay him part of it, all of it, a little of it? What did they pay him? And are they holding anything back? We don't know. But we do know that he's got a spreadsheet, and he doesn't have money anymore. And that's why his lawyer's left. That's right, and he's eligible for public defender. I'm Jasmine Herrera from Texas. It's not surprising seeing that the attorneys are falling away from David due to insufficient funds, even though David has the $11 million contract. It's interesting because the money's broken down by the company before it's even touched by the artist. So it is questionable for sure. The biggest question at this point is more so, what's going to happen going forward in this case, and what does this mean for the case? Well, it's not great for the case, for David, at least, because the lawyers he had were top-notch lawyers. And again, these public defenders are really, really good, but man, they have a massive caseload. And what is the, there's an actual public defender and then deputies, and is the public defender going to assign deputies just that case and say, just focus on it? I don't know that they can. If you're David, do you look at this as, hmm, maybe I should at least entertain a plea deal? Will the DA entertain a plea deal? Well, the DA is another thing, but if you're David, you start thinking. But that's the question, will the DA even do it? Because the DA came out, news conference afterwards said, we're still prosecuting this guy, public defender's fine. It doesn't make any difference to us. Yeah, it makes no difference. Very exciting space news for Nancy Grace Roman. Roman, huge news, huge news. This is life-changing. It will literally change the way we view the universe because a telescope was launched this weekend, the Nancy Grace Roman Telescope. And if you're thinking that this has something to do with Italians and their love of Nancy Grace and her crime programs, no. Nancy Grace Roman is the full name of the woman that it is named after. And she is the one who actually engineered the Hubble Telescope. There would be no Hubble, as one expert explained to me, there would be no Hubble without Nancy Grace Roman. And so this telescope is like 1,000 times better than the Hubble Telescope. And it is going to open us up to galaxies that we've never seen before. Well, no, they say it's going to, but the key is, is it going to change our theories about the universe and how it's created and what's behind our solar system? And that's just amazing. So joining us now to talk about what this is going to really do for us is an author and self-described science nerd, Kalpana Pott. Kalpana, welcome to TMZ Live. How are you doing? I'm doing well. How are you guys? Thank you for having me. I'm so excited about this. I didn't think I would be, but when I started hearing about it, it was just breathtaking. Why don't you describe what this telescope can show us? Certainly. So you guys hit the nail on the head. Nancy Grace Roman was NASA's first chief of astronomer in the early 1960s. And she was really the reason the Hubble Space Telescope became what it was. She pioneered for it. So she's often called the mother of Hubble. So it's only fitting that the next great space telescope from NASA is named after her. So you have to think of the Roman Space Telescope like Hubble, but on crack. So it has the same primary mirror diameter about eight feet across, but then its field of view is a hundred times larger than Hubble's. So think of Hubble as like a spotlight looking into the universe, while this telescope, the Roman Space Telescope, would be more like a floodlight. So it's gonna be gathering data from vast areas of space. And it'll show us the universe in a way we've never seen before because telescopes primarily focus very specifically on like, let's say one galaxy or one other solar system. But this is gonna be seeing a lot more. So you're gonna be seeing the universe how it's meant to be seen, which is its grand scale. And that's basically the difference. Also, just like a quick little other detail, this telescope is gonna be primarily looking in the infrared wavelength, which is what JWST looks in. This allows scientists to see objects that would normally be obscured by other objects because infrared light can pass through that. So it'll give us more of an in-depth view of the universe, allow us to look further back in time, but it does still have the same primary mirror length as Hubble, just a much wider field of view. So Kalpana, I'm sure you hear this a lot of times on your accounts and people hear all of that and they go, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we're gonna get some pretty pictures, but beyond that, what is that really doing? How is that actually gonna change my life? Other than, yeah, I get to see some pretty pictures of places that are very, very far away. Totally, that's a fair question. And a lot of people don't seem to realize the impact of exploring the universe has on our everyday lives. For instance, technology like the CAT scan, MRIs, even like, what is it called? Like astronaut food just does things that- The instant meals that they do. Yeah, exactly. Tang. Tang. Yes, Tang. Actually, Tang wasn't NASA apparently, but it's a similar kind of idea. But even like the cameras that we use in our smartphones, technology that firefighters use to prevent from being burned up, all of that came from space exploration and the types of studies that they do in the ISS greatly benefits the medical field, agricultural field, pharmacy field. There's a lot that they discover in space that directly helps us here on Earth. Okay. Yeah, with Nancy Grace Roman though, this is just gonna give us a better understanding of the history of our cosmos, which we are a part of. And we often seem to forget about that, especially because we don't see the night sky for what it is because of all the light pollution. But this is gonna remind us that we are part of something greater and help us understand the two biggest mysteries of our cosmos, which is dark matter and dark energy. We literally don't know that much about it, but by studying the universe on a grand scale, we'll be able to see how it's evolved over time and hopefully help us better understand those two big mysteries. Okay, the big thing, the big thing is this is gonna let us see other galaxies, places we've never been able to see before. Can this show us if life exists outside of space? Of Earth and our solar system? So yes and no, in the sense that since the early 90s, we've discovered over 6,000 exoplanets, aka planets that exist outside of our solar system. This telescope is going to give us maybe around 100,000 new exoplanet discoveries. Wow. Which is crazy. So we're just increasing the odds. I'm not sure, I don't think it has a capability of looking for like biosignatures. However, it could probably understand the atmospheres of these planets. And then from there deduce down like, is this world habitable? And then what's cool though, is having all of these telescopes on the ground and in space, they can all work together. So let's say it finds an exoplanet that's very promising, like very similar to Earth. Then you can use a telescope that's primarily designed to look for signatures to then concentrate on that. But it's increasing the odds. Like literally for 30 years, we've only discovered about 6,000 alien worlds. This is going to exponentially increase that number. It's going to be crazy. All right, now you're in. I'm in. Now you're in. You said the magic word, aliens. So now he's in. Now he's in. It is going to be fascinating. So Kalpana, when do they expect that they'll be able to get the first images? I would say in the next few months, it's going to take a little bit of time to travel a million miles to this region called L2, which is where JWST is. It's a great place outside of Earth on the other side of the sun. So you have to think of it like sun-Earth telescopes. That way their instruments stay cool. And then from then on, it'll probably be a few months when it starts gathering data and we'll get the first glimpses of what it's been able to see. But I'm just so glad it launched ahead of time, under budget. Leave it up to a telescope named after a woman to be very efficient that way. There you go. Hey, it is so good seeing you. Good to see you too. And thanks for breaking this down so clearly because I was watching and getting lost over the weekend. So this was great, thanks. Okay, I'm so glad I could be helpful. Thank you again, Harvey, for having me. And thank you for showing enthusiasm with space exploration. I think now more than ever, it just helps us, you know, ground ourselves a bit more in what matters in life. All right. Excellent. Thanks so much, Kalpana. You are going to say, oh, you were right. I'm telling you, I'm not going to be around. No, you definitely won't be either. Well, the NFL player that is getting talked about more than almost any. Well, not really the NFL player. Isn't actually an NFL player. He posed as one. Dejon Love is the man who was arrested last week. I noticed he wasn't on the roster very quickly because I feel like that's the first thing you should do. So I. Why wasn't it an end of story right there? Be right back. Well, the NFL player that is getting talked about more than almost any. Well, not really the NFL player. Isn't actually an NFL player. He posed as one. Dejon Love is the man who was arrested last week and charged with wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Guy who's claimed to be a member of the 49ers as he was, according to law enforcement, trying to get money, scam money out of women that he met online. And he, when we heard about the story, we just thought this bizarre. How could anybody fall for this? Well, now we have an idea of what he was sharing with his victims, his alleged victims, because we have some of the videos that he sent to one of the sent to someone he was trying to get money out of. She is going to join us in just a moment and we'll explain why her story is different from the victims. But this is one of the videos that he sent. I own a $15 million home in Malibu on the beach. I own a $20 million home in Beverly Hills that I just bought in March of last year, or this, no, last year, we're in 2023. I also own a beach house in Southeast Miami, Florida, and I own a penthouse on Billionaire's Row, downtown Manhattan in New York. This is my Lamborghini, Huracan, Evo. This car is $340,000. It's worth more than that now. This is my ZR1 Corvette. That's $190,000. Here's my Hellcat Charger Redeye. That's $140,000. Anybody that you can think of that sings, dances, athlete, whatever, we all invest. So I was thinking that maybe he used, like, maybe $1,000 from, you know, your savings or 401k to start the account. Once you see the account is making more money, or making a lot of money, then add more money. So that was his plea to her to basically give up $1,000. I've just showed you how much I'm investing. And when you give up $1,000. Okay, so when you see him tick off all the houses and the cars and everything else, how do you not know it's BS? I mean, it is just so over the top. And when you add up all of what he says he has, who in the NFL has that? Especially somebody whose name you don't know. No, they're definitely, well, you're right, that you would probably know the name of an NFL player who had all those things. All those things. Probably. But I don't know. Well, joining us right now on the phone is a woman named Kara. Kara received videos from Dajon, who was trying for years to try and get her to invest. She did not get hooked by him, though. So she's joining us right now. Kara, welcome to Team Zlot. Hi, nice to talk to y'all. So Kara, explain how you guys connected and what his pitch to you was. And then also, did you buy it at any point? Yeah, so we matched either on Facebook dating or Hinge in early 2024. And I mean, he claimed he was, you know, this tall athlete. So of course, I think any young girl in her 20s is gonna be excited about that. I kind of felt like, so it's like started as flirting here and there and gradually got, you know, more and more intense. He moves very quickly, promises a lot of things, a lot of luxury gifts, a different lifestyle. Personally, for me, I noticed he wasn't on the roster very quickly because I feel like that's the first thing you should do. So I kind of- Why was it an end of story right there? Because I live for the plot. And so like, I do like to entertain things, unfortunately, and see how far they go. So did you ask, so when you very smartly went and searched and did not see Dejon Love's name on the roster for the 49ers, did you question him about that? And what did he say? I did, and he sent me a five-minute voice message breaking down NFL contracts. And he claimed because he had a thumb injury that he couldn't pass the wellness part of the contract. So he couldn't be on the official roster, but he's still with the team. Okay, so let me stop you for a second. But in order to amass the kind of money, he was baronial with all these houses and cars and everything else. In order to amass it, he must have played at some point. Did you look to see if he ever played? No, I did, and I couldn't find it. But he claimed he was so wealthy and that football was just for fun. He claimed he's from like the richest family in Switzerland. Oh my God. Okay, I don't know that there's anyone in the NFL like that where they're like, they're just doing it just for fun. Like, okay. So, so what? So at a point, did you call BS on him? Did you just ghost him? What'd you do? So I ran a background check on him after he tried to pressure me to send him $1,000 and got really upset with me when I refused. And that's when I kind of saw he had previous charges. And I don't remember exactly what they were, but it was something along the lines of like theft and like robbery. And I was like, why would a person who comes from generational wealth get charged with robbery? So I kind of just stopped responding, but he'd hit me up every so few months and be like, hey, let's go on a shopping spree. Hey baby, did you forget about me and all these things? But I just didn't entertain it after that. Cause I was like something, you're just, you're obviously full of crap. So Cara, you just said something there that I think can be very useful too. Cause clearly there are people who don't do the kind of research you did. You said you did a background check on him. Can you share with the audience, just in case they're online and they're engaging with someone who is trying to get them to give money. How did you do that exactly? There's a lot of websites you can get background checks on. I think the one I use is called Truthfinder. It's like $30 and you can just run background checks. You can buy a membership to run unlimited background checks on for like a month. And I've done it previously just cause I feel like people act crazy these days. And yeah, I will give you like anything related to that person, previous addresses, charges, occupations, general information. That's smart. It's smart. Real quick, we're out of time, real quick. Have you talked to the authorities about your experience? No, because I mean, he didn't, I didn't give him any money. But he tried. He definitely tried. Yeah, yeah, tried for a long time. Wow, what a story. What a story. I will say Cara, and I know if the audience is wondering why you're not showing your face, we've heard this from other people who were contacted by Dejan also. You're just getting, some of their names are out and they're getting destroyed online. The internet's doing what the internet does. But she did it right. Was smart, right. But a lot of people have felt like, basically they're shaming the victims, saying that you were stupid. So you were not a victim, Cara. And I think you have some important information that everyone should be aware of when they're dealing with people online. Don't trust people with generational left from Switzerland. That's the takeaway. Especially when they don't have a Swiss accent. Yeah, there you go. With no accent whatsoever also. Okay, Cara, really appreciate it. Yes, of course. Thank you for your time. Thanks. This year's Met Gala is already upended. It is still gonna happen, but boy, did they make a PR blunder. Be right back. TMZ's got every freaking thing. Big celebs, big stories, big events. Donald Rawlings took TMZ DC on a city tour. You know what the irony of this is? A black man takes a white person to the White House. It's TMZ. This year's Met Gala is already upended. It is still gonna happen, but boy, did they make a PR blunder. So the exhibit, this year the Met Gala was going to center around a John Galliano exhibit. He's famous. He's certainly in the fashion world. And a very good friend of Anna Wintour's. However, John Galliano, years ago, was maybe the first person in the fashion world to be canceled because of some comments he made during an event in Paris where he said some very clearly anti-Semitic things. And a lot of people labeled him a Nazi. I don't know if that's fair, but that was the fallout. That was, again, more than I think 15 years ago. And now, for some reason, the folks behind the Met Gala thought that they could have an exhibit around him. It did not work. The backlash was enormous. And John Galliano released this statement, though he's taking credit for it. I really think the people in the Met Gala told him this isn't gonna happen. But he says, after much reflection and discussion with all those involved, I have decided, with great sadness, that it's best for the exhibition not to take place at this time. So it's not gonna happen. They have to change the theme of the Met Gala because of this. Now, you said something. You said, for some reason. So I started thinking about this today. And there is growing anti-Semitism. And I wonder if they thought it would be embraced. Not embraced as much as tolerated. You know, it's like, because there's been such a wave. And look, I mean, personally, there are all sorts of reasons for it. But I think that what, I mean, I'm just gonna get a little political, what Benjamin Netanyahu did, by bombing innocent Palestinians, that it contributed to this and allowed people who may not have said things, now they're saying, I will say things. So I wonder if the climate made the Met Gala and Anna Wintour think, maybe forgive and forget. Maybe, but I don't know. There are signs that they knew this was gonna be a problem. I think this is a reaction to the backlash against cancel culture that we saw sort of two, three years ago. And I sort of think there's an idea that now anything goes, this guy has apologized for what he said. Anna Wintour is a personal friend of his, I guess. And so that's what the reports are. But they knew this was an issue. They knew it, but I thought, maybe it is partially anti-Semitism, but I think it's more like, this was 15 years ago, you said, and I think they thought they could just get away with it because nobody cares about past conduct anymore. That's sort of the- Well, the donors to the Metropolitan Museum very much cared. Yes. And that's- Isn't this something that would have worked out in private before it was going to be an issue? In fact, there was talk about even moving the date of the Met Gala because it falls, I think, on the same day as Holocaust Remembrance Day. Oh, goodness. And so they certainly knew that wouldn't do well with him. So there are signs that they were definitely expecting some backlash, but maybe they didn't think it was gonna come directly from the donors to the museum. Does this diminish Anna Wintour's power, in a way? I don't know if it diminishes her power, but it's a mistake. Because she couldn't get what she wanted. It's a serious mistake. It really is. It's an unforced error. It's not necessary. There's a lot of designers you could have acknowledged here. And by the way, they don't typically do living designers. Oh, is that right? It's usually someone who's passed. You're anti-cancel culture. How do you feel about this? You are somebody who's ridden against cancel culture for a long time now. You know, I don't recall. I mean, I recall the statements were really bad. I guess what I'm thinking of is just that I think there was a sense that it might be tolerated. That, yeah, he said it, but look at what's going on in the world right now. Yeah. I mean, that's true. One of the statements, I don't remember this, but Jonah just told me in my ear, one of the statements was, I love Hitler. So. Kanye West said that and he's not canceled. Exactly. Hey, Kai from London here. Listen, right is right and wrong is wrong. By no means am I going to deny the fact that John Galliano is an extremely talented fashion designer. However, when it gets to a point where it's overshadowing, you know, what the fashion is all about and it's all about politics and political statements. I think this was the best move. Like stepping down was for a good reason. And to your point, I don't think it was him. I think it was like something to do with the Met, but I think this is, yeah, this had to be done. Yeah. It was definitely the Met. We are learning something new about Aaliyah's death. Allegedly, according to one of her family members. Be right back. Welcome back to TMZ Live. We are learning something new about Aaliyah's death. Allegedly, according to one of her family members. And this has come out in court documents because there is a lawsuit going on that doesn't really have to do with Aaliyah, but she has come up in this. So the lawsuit was filed by a guy named Jomo. Jomo Hankerson is Aaliyah's cousin or was Aaliyah's cousin. He is suing his father. His father, Barry Hankerson, was the head of Aaliyah's record label, and he is also Aaliyah's uncle. So that's how they're all related in family and business. Jomo is suing Barry, his father, because he says that they're unpaid. He didn't get royalties from a bunch of artists on the label that he feels he deserves royalties, except Jomo's father has fired back in legal documents saying, no, you don't get any royalties, and beyond that, you were a horrible employee, and I blame you for Aaliyah's death. This is the way Barry lays it out in his legal documents. He says that Jomo, at the time, in 2001, his job was to take care of Aaliyah's day-to-day travel. He was supposed to be with her anytime she was traveling to make sure that all the arrangements were handled. And he says he was supposed to be on the music video shoot in the Bahamas in 2001. Actually, the anniversary was just last week, and he was supposed to be there to arrange her travel, except he slacked off. He did not go, according to Barry, and ever since then, Barry has blamed him for Aaliyah's death because he's saying- The plane was overweight. The plane was overweight, 700 pounds overweight, barely got off the ground, and that's why it crashed. And it's harsh, but you have fathers telling son, that wouldn't have happened if you were actually doing your job. Whether or not that's true, I don't know, but man, that's harsh. Legally, that's a tough argument to make, that he's responsible because he didn't make the travel, and the travel arrangements, and they ended up getting a plane that was overweight. It's not gonna work. But it does affect opinion, and maybe the jury or whoever hears this, because in the exact document, Barry does refer to it as Jummo's compensated task. So Jummo's suing him for over a million dollars now for this agreement over royalties, and he's saying, look, I was paying you to do this job, which is what would have gotten you that percentage of those royalties, and you were terrible at it, cost me one of my most profitable artists, and a very beloved figure, and that also, of course, bleeds into public perception, is that she was very beloved, and he's now saying you killed her, basically. Yeah, except then the issue becomes, who knew that the plane was 700 pounds overweight? Because if this was something, say, that the pilot hid, then it wouldn't be on The Sun for not making travel arrangements, because- But if she'd been on a different plane, it might not have happened. Well, you don't know that it would have been. It's all speculation. The whole thing is that he wasn't there, and I get your point, is how can you prove something that didn't happen? If it doesn't prove he did it, it might just prove I don't owe him a million dollars. Well, it proves that he didn't do his job that day, but does that mean the contract gets canceled, and he doesn't get any royalties that were due up to the point Aaliyah died? And I honestly, I don't see- I don't know, but I will say it is a pretty slick move, if it is that, on the father's part, on Barry's part, to bring that up, because as you said, Eric, if this ends up going to trial, and you can say whether it's true or not, but if you can present this and attach Jomo to Aaliyah's death- That's not gonna work, I'm just telling you. Hi, I'm Jashayla, I'm in Portland, and honestly, I think all of this is just egregious. I mean, Aaliyah died 25 years ago, and while I understand her family probably still carries the weight of that with them till this day, this legal battle seems more like a last ditch effort to squeeze more money out of the situation, and I feel like if they sincerely cared for her, they would put more emphasis on preserving her legacy and allowing her to rest in peace rather than feuding publicly. Yeah, it's just amazing. This is a quarter century later. Right. Wow. So Mel Gibson popped up in Toronto at the Canadian Fan Film Expo, Fan Expo, rather, and very quickly, this appearance went off the rails- Two seconds. And forced him- Two seconds. Yeah, exactly. It's all it takes, watch carefully, but these two seconds led to Mel Gibson making an apology. Watch, you'll see why. The one, the only, the Oscar-winning, a legendary man himself, Mr. Mel Gibson. It's all it took. Just, so now when you see the full context at that angle, what he was doing with his hands- He was mimicking the- Mimicking the ASL interpreter who was there. Why would you do that? I mean, look, in the pantheon of Mel Gibson missteps, this one- It's minor. Is pretty minor, but it is almost sort of childish, right? Like why- He actually acknowledged exactly that. It just seems like something a teenage boy might do. And he says that. I mean, he issued an apology. He says, sometimes when you get pushed out on a stage in a spotlight, your mind is all over the place, and sometimes spontaneous, thoughtless idiocy is displayed. There was no intended maliciousness attached, and I certainly apologize to anyone who was upset by it. I don't think he was necessarily trying to be malicious, but it's just- No, I don't think so either. It's just such a weird thing to do, to mock someone who's out there that's signing for deaf people in the audience that, you know, otherwise can't hear what's going on. It's just, I just don't know what's going through his brain when he walked out there. I think that's exactly what he said. Yeah, I think it's what he said. He walked out, he thought, oh, that'll be funny, and he just did it. He was just looking for some credit by the time he got to the podium. But we've always seen those people a million times doing the sign language. I've never thought to mock them. But he probably never thought it either until he walked out and he thought, oh, that's a good gag. And then by the time he got to the podium, it's like, oh. Didn't exactly hit him. He probably knew immediately, well, that's not gonna land, that's not well. Hopefully it was only two seconds, nobody will notice it. People are filming everything. People are noticing. Coming up. Look who's over there. Yeah. Look who's over there. Hey, Nick Tuturo. It's called My God. Come on over, man. Okay. And he came bearing gifts. Listen, we would have been happy if you just popped in by yourself, but you brought food, so yeah, we're in. Be right back. Look who's over there. Yeah. Look who's over there. Hey, Nick Tuturo. It's called My God. Come on over, man. Okay. I think, oh. And he came bearing gifts. Listen, we would have been happy if you just popped in by yourself, but you brought food, so yeah, we're in. First, I was delivering pizza, and now I'm delivering chicken. Oh my God. This is where my life has gone. So this is the People's Choice. Why are you holding a platter of, really, what looks kind of delicious. Yeah, it is delicious. It's called box chicken. It's the People's Choice. It was at the Tenderfest last year, so. The Tenderfest is coming up. Tenderfest is coming up. Yeah, Tenderfest is coming up. I'm gonna be moving around. I was a judge a couple of years ago. I actually. Wait, did they not bring you back to be a judge again? No, they didn't. Wait, was there a controversy the first time around? Well, I swayed the whole, I swayed the panel. I think they were mad. Oh yeah? Bun B won, and I convinced them that that was the best chicken. Oh, okay. That was the best choice, sorry. I don't want to make you hold this whole time. I'm like freaking out right now. Try one. Well, I know, but which one? Are they all? It doesn't matter. The red ones are spicy, and then the regular. So it's just one or the other? Yeah. So box was the People's Choice award last year, so there's the contenders, which are like the big L.A. chefs, Nancy Silverton, Tim Hollingsworth. Which is Nancy Silverton? No, this is just all the box. This is box. So this was voted by the people last year as the best tender at the festival. Okay, I haven't eaten fried food in a long, long time. This is true. I doubt you were gonna, I didn't think you actually would. No, no, I'm gonna do it, but I need to know, should I do spicy or regular? I would do less, no spicy. Well, I like spicy. Okay, then do it. Go for it. The owner of the box is in there. Go for it. I mean, you know. The owner of the box is in there, and she recommended spicy. And this is what? Blue cheese? What is it? Ranch. Ranch? Yeah. Okay. Uh-oh. Oh, God, I haven't done this in so long. That's all right. It's really good. Oh, my God. Oh, man. That's not ordinary tender. No. That is really good. That's top, top notch. And I'm not even. Okay. I can't, I gotta resist. That is really, really good. I thought those were all for you. What the hell? What are you talking? Well, I don't know. Okay. Okay, that's delicious. Yeah. Tender Fest, September 19th in L.A. Nancy Silverton is a judge this year. Nick, you know that. I love her. Eric is our, like, tender. Yeah, I know. He's our man on the inside. Nick's mad at me, because we made a social video. He just duped me on my brother's five best performances. Oh, right. He's mad. Nancy Silverton is the best. She is so great. Well, Pizzeria Mozza is making a Parmesan chicken tender this year for the festival. That was so good. You have this thing of delivering happiness. And what is it? I was trying to, I mean. Delivering happiness. Aside from that. It's basically me showing up as delivering a pizza. And then I have, like, a basically get-together, one-on-one talk show. But I actually deliver the pizza to celebrities. Oh, to celebrities. Regular people, all kinds of people. So it's a. So it's kind of like hot ones, except pizza. Yeah. And it's a get-together. And people are like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm delivering happiness. Delivering happiness. I'm delivering the pizza. It's pretty simple. It's all right there in the end. Then we have a sit-down, you know? And it's turned into, like, a podcast talk show. That's really cool. Yeah. Can I tell you something? This was, like, amazing. I haven't had fried food in so long. Now I know why people go down the rabbit hole. No, it was. This is, like, delicious. You gotta come to the tender fest. Tender fest. No, I can't. I just can't do fried. I just can't do fried food. Can't do it? I can't do fried food. But this was really, really good. What do you got? Like, acid reflux or something? It's a Jewish thing. No, it's not. I'm Italian. It's a Jewish thing. I got stomach issues, too. Trust me. You only live once. Harvey? It is so good to see you. Nick, before you go, I gotta, thank you. How do you feel about the Yankees this year? The Yankees? How you feeling? I'm on the fence, yeah. We gotta get a little more hitting, but we got pitching, but, you know. I look forward to the playoffs just because I like to see you angry. Yeah, well. Ripping your shirt off. People are like, why aren't you angry? I gotta be angry about something. I can't just be angry to be angry. But I'm happy about this. Get your tickets, tenderfest.com. Yes, Tenderfest. If you're gonna be in LA. It's a great event, I'm telling you. And delicious. And it's delicious. And delivering happiness. Exactly. Thanks. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks, Nick. Good to see you. That was really good. Okay. Coming up. Sorry for the pun, but Donald Trump is between Iran and a hard spot because right now, the best he can do is reopen the Strait of Hormuz completely, which on some days he says is, and some days he says isn't, but it was before the war started six months ago. So where are we? Be right back. By the way, we should say full disclosure, Melissa, zero in here. We were gonna talk to Babcock. What? He's nowhere to be found, but he did grab two chicken tenders. But he did grab two chicken tenders. Yeah, that makes sense. All right, so President Trump and AI. He's used it time and time again on social media, and almost always it pisses off somebody, which maybe is the point. It's the intent. That's the intent. Which maybe is the point. And the latest AI target for him is the same target in real life, Iran. Yeah, those are not real images. And he's basically trying to intimidate, say, we're gonna take over. There is a lot of bluster here, but the reality is the United States did attack Iran. They came right back at us, and sorry for the pun, but Donald Trump is between Iran and a hard spot, because right now the best he can do is reopen the Strait of Hormuz completely, which on some days he says is, and some days he says isn't, but it was before the war started six months ago. So where are we? Right. I mean- We're not in a better position. Oh, look who's back. I completely disagree with that. We didn't want to interrupt the chicken dinner. I know. No, they're really good. Interesting. They're really good. Oh, so there was more than two. Yeah, yeah, there was three. And I had already eaten lunch too, by the way. The difference is that we have depleted their ballistic missile program, and hopefully we have stopped them from depleting nuclear weapons. But they still have the nuclear dust. Yeah, and that's something that's gotta be dealt with. It cannot be accessible. But that's the point. It's not over yet. But you said we're in the same position. I understand Strait of Hormuz was open before. Now, maybe it is, maybe it's not. We're not seeing the same traffic. It ain't. Right, but I think they are making strides there, clear their minds now. Been to the gas station lately? Yeah, I have. It's not good. It's not been good for a long time. Hi, everybody. This is MJ from Atlanta. Let's just be honest. At some point, we have to stop confusing recklessness with leadership. Honestly, posting an AI-generated video of another country being blown to smithereens isn't a sign of strength. It's irresponsibility and immaturity. When you give a clown a platform, a clown will give you a circus. The problem is when the president is running this show, the consequences aren't entertainment. They're real. Okay, real quick. We're out of time. Yeah. Taste one and give us a review quick. I wonder what he's going to say. Delicious. We don't want to interrupt you. And you have a salad coming, right, also? He's never eaten a salad in his entire life. Never met a salad he wanted to eat. Boy, Kylie Jenner was grilled in her latest interview. Tough, tough interviewer. Stormy. Her daughter, and she asked the hard question. Who has the worst dance moves in their family? Be right back. Boy, Kylie Jenner was grilled in her latest interview. Tough, tough interviewer. Like Mike Wallace, except her name is Stormy. Stormy. Her daughter, and she asked the hard question. Who has the worst dance moves in their family? Probably your Auntie Kiki, or yeah. I think she would be okay with me saying that. Did she seem nervous when she said it? She seemed like she was calculating, but she said Kim's the worst dancer in the family. Yeah. There is plenty of evidence to that. I think there was no reason for Kylie to be nervous. Kim got kicked off the stage by Prince. Yeah. At the Forum. When he was playing at the Forum years ago, and brought her up on stage. That's a solid answer. Yeah. Okay. Don't worry about it, Kylie. We will see you tomorrow.