SPEAK UP for REAL HOPE with “World Peace Clown” Susan Carew

Welcome to Awake to Oneness Radio. I am Caroline Chang, your host. The mission of Awake to Oneness Radio is to inspire the world to awaken to the universal truth of oneness. Science and spirituality are both telling us that we are all connected, that we are all one. So what you do to another person, you're literally doing to another aspect of yourself. And when mankind awakens to the universal truth of oneness, there will be peace on earth. Today's show topic is Speak Up for Real Hope with World Peace Clown Suzanne Carew. This is Suzanne's second time with us on Awake to Oneness Radio. I invited her back because she is, like I said, a World Peace Clown and she has a wonderful program for children, for students that she's trying to implement in the schools in Australia. She is connected live from Australia, it's Saturday morning down there, and we'd like to welcome Suzanne to Awake to Oneness Radio. Welcome, Suzanne. How are you? Hi, Caroline. How are you? Good. I hear you're good now. Yes. Suzanne's connecting from her computer. When I have international guests, we have to use what's called a direct link. And sometimes that link works very well and sometimes, you know, we have to pray to the computer gods, but we're connected now. Thank you. Thank you so much. Go ahead, Suzanne. You're welcome. I was just going to say to you, we'll just have to take it a bit at a time because it may sort of come in and out. It might be my computer, not so much your program. So we'll do the best we can. Okay. Well, I'm hearing you okay now. Like I said, talk. I think if you talk slow, don't talk too fast because sometimes the audio is going in and out. So if you talk slower, maybe we won't miss a word. And like I was saying to the audience, to the listeners, you have a wonderful program. You have authored a series of books called Awakened the Fool. But I really want you to go into detail. And you have a manuscript, I'm reading notes now, a Fool for Peace manuscript. What I'd like for you to do with tonight's program, if you can, is just share more detail about the program that you have for children. Yes. Are you still there? I'm here. Great. Because you just went quiet for a moment, Mayim. I went quiet. I actually went quiet to hear you talk. So that's a good thing. All is good. Great. The program that I was inspired, I actually dreamed I was teaching these. And I remember at the time I was in Canberra, and I wondered if anybody taught peace in school. And I rang a teacher who is a friend of mine, and I asked him, does anybody teach peace in the curriculum in school? And his answer was, we teach war and peace, you know, through the general curriculum. But there isn't a sort of a foundation to education grounded in universal values. Peace, of course, you can imagine peace like a white light fragmented into colors. Now the colors of my program, which is called Real Hope, are universal values. So Real Hope is an acronym for responsibility, empathy, awareness, love, honesty, oneness, peace, enjoyment. And if a school gives me a ninth week, the last letter would be an S, which is Real Hope. And S, of course, stands for circle. So when you integrate universal values, which are not the same as cultural values, you know, or ethics, we tend to talk in terms of ethics, but they tend to be culturally defined. With Real Hope, the universal values are universal for every human being on the planet. So when children learn experientially each of these values, it will bring them into alignment with Real Hope. Another way of envisaging this is it's a model. So if you look at real, the word real, and the word hope, the way I see them is real is authentic. So if you want to know, when you're looking at a particular issue, if you want to look through the prism of Real Hope, you would look through that and you would say, okay, if I look at what is real or authentic, is the person being responsible? Or what is the responsibility in this issue? Is there empathy? So if I look through the prism of empathy, what do I see? So if we're dealing with a person or an issue, we put on the glass of empathy and we stand in the shoes of the other. Awareness is, well, what do I know about this? Where is my awareness on this? And of course, as you and I both know, awareness has many levels. The next value is love. So if I put on the glasses of love, what do I see about this person or issue? Now, that gives me a sense of the authenticity, right, of that particular subject matter. Then if I want to look at, do we have hope? And of course, we could use any issue for this. We could say terrorism. We could say violence in the world. We could say, you know, planetary ecology. So we put on glasses of part of that model. So look at honesty, which is the first letter. So if I'm truthful, if I'm truthful and I put on those glasses and I look out onto the world or onto the person, what is the truth? If I'm honest, what is the truth? And of course, Byron Katie comes up in my mind right now. So is it true? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love that. The next letter is you put on the glasses of oneness, which is what you and I particularly love. And you look out onto the world in a sense, and you could say in a meditative sense of oneness, what do I see about this person who is the mirror of me? What do I see in the world? What do I feel? And so this connects us to innate, universal feeling. Then we look out through the glasses of peace. Now, if I'm sitting within that energy of peace and I'm looking at the issue, with peace in my heart, not in mind, peace in the heart, or I'm looking at that person with peace, suddenly all the things that we thought were negative drop away because in a space of peace, you only can see with love anyway. So you start to see more clearly. And the last one there is enjoyment. So if I feel joy and I look out upon the world, even in the midst of crisis, I add, perceived midst of crisis, where I'm sitting right now in this one moment, there is no crisis, right? So I look out with enjoyment. I'm feeling very happy. What do I see about terrorism? What do I see about violence? What do I see about when I'm in a state of joy? Well, funnily enough, I feel no fear. And I can see humor in this. We'll work it out, won't we? We'll just have to find the funny in this. And what that does, of course, because these are virtues, these are universal virtues, what this does is it lifts frequency. If you're problem solving, it lifts frequency. So rather than allowing the prism of our mind to be influenced by fear, we shift into universal values, which is intrinsic. It's not thought-based, it's feeling-based. Then we look with real hope out onto the world. So that's the model. Yes, it's beautiful. Yes, that is so beautiful and it's so true. Actually, I think to teach these universal truths to children, actually, I think it's easier than teaching them to adults in the sense that children are more open already to universal truths because I think they're closer to it. They haven't been here long enough to be pretty much trained out of universal truth. So I think they're closer to the truth than people that have been here for a much longer time. And society, cultural society, is just telling us something totally different than what universal truth is teaching us. Like I said, for children, I think they just... Actually, I've had my grandson. He's gone now. He's back in school. But I had him his whole summer break. He only had six weeks. He's six years old and he only got six weeks out of school. He goes to a progressive charter school in New Jersey and they only have six weeks summer vacation. So he spent his whole summer vacation with Mima. That's me. And I was teaching him. I have all of Neil Donald Walsh's children's books. I have all of Dr. Wayne Dyer's children's books. And actually, he's to the point where he's reading himself. So I let him read them to me and we talk about it. So he has a very good understanding of what oneness is. And he'll tell me, well, Mima, that oneness is that we're all connected. We're all one. And it was very easy for him to grasp that at six years old. So I understand this is a beautiful thing you're doing. And I envision it taking off and really spreading globally. To all of the schools and every education system in the world. Because we do need to start teaching these true values, these universal values to children at a young age. I think so because the problem is that when we are taught in such a way that's putting knowledge into us, which the conventional education system, with respect to the teachers out there, I feel great love for everyone. And I know that everything makes its own contribution. But because we're at a point in the world's history where it's clear we have to change the way we think. And I think most people are recognising that the way that we are thinking today is not working. And it really is asking the question, what works? Not what is the educational outcome? Because we have outcomes in education systems that have been designed in bureaucratic frameworks. What we really need to ask is what works? Now, when we use values, values are not just a subject to be taught in order to attract parents to register in that school or enrol in that school. Values have to be seen in a much deeper way. They are the absolute foundation of who we become. So if we don't get that right at school, then children are going to grow up with a different prism which sees the world through an analytical thinking process which can easily be subverted by a range of ideas through the media, through the movie industry, through online violent video games, through parental break-up where they see the conflict and unhappiness within their own families, through a mentality that believes that defence is creating security rather than inner security, which means I'm going to sit with you and let's work out this problem together. Problem solving, conflict resolution, are absolutely critical because most people, if not every single person, is often wrong when they're in conflict. And in fact, I might reframe that and say, every person is wrong when they're in conflict. Now, people will say, no, I'm not wrong. That person did the wrong thing. Now, that's looking through the prism of morals. Now, morals have come from religion and that's a history that we've got. That comes from a right-wrong mentality. That's from morals. When we're looking through the prism of universal values, it joins us. It doesn't separate us. When I say that you are a non-believer and I don't like you because I can feel a contraction within myself, then I am operating out of human morals. When I look at you through the prism of love, real love, there is no way I can reject you because when I see you for who you are without a story, I actually see that you're just the same as me. But we're thinking differently. We're speaking differently. If we're very aware of embracing diversity, so it's okay for you to think differently rather than me fighting you, we can sit down and explore the difference. Isn't that exciting? Wow, we see differently. That is the prism through the universal consciousness that absolutely celebrates diversity. It's fun. Diversity is fun. It's the spice of life. It actually makes us... Our differences make us stronger because it's the spice of life. It would be a very boring place if we all liked the same thing and we all did the same thing. We'd be so bored to death. But the spice of life... I say all the time, a person doesn't have to see things exactly the way I see them. I'm just sharing like I do with this show. I'm just sharing what is in my heart and I'm just sharing my story that maybe someone can get inspired from. So it's not about anyone having to agree with me and say I'm right. It's not about right or wrong. It's about just sharing and sharing in love. Just like you said, when you share in the spirit of love, love sees no right and wrong. It sees only the love in that other person because we're all divine, all divine love. And that's all love sees, is love. It's so true. So it's never for me... I always say that it's never for me a matter of right and wrong. It's a matter of, okay, let's just share. And some things we may say, oh yeah, I think that way too. Or he's like, okay, I think a little different on that. But there's no need to have animosity because I think differently, I believe differently. We're still all one. We're all connected to God. We're all connected, literally connected to each other. So it's so true. So yes, and teaching that to a child, that a person doesn't have to agree with you, but you can still be their friend. You can still love them. You don't have to agree on the same thing. And you don't have to argue about it. So true. Sue? Suzanne? I hope I didn't lose you. Suzanne? I don't hear you. Do you hear me? Okay, I was hoping that we weren't going to run into the technical difficulties. The last time we did a show together, we actually did an hour and 15-minute show. And then she got disconnected. But Suzanne, what I'm going to do is just stay on air. Oh, there you go again. I see you. Okay. All righty. She connected again. All right. Hi, Suzanne. Are you there? Yes. I am. Great. No, I'm glad you were able to do that. I said, let's just hope she connects back. So were you able to hear me okay? No. Look, the problem is not you. The problem is my clunky computer. I know it is. And what happened was I was actually trying to set two computers up this morning because this one seems to have a problem. Every now and then the wireless goes out, so I have to reconnect. Right. Right, right, right. Please don't think that we Australians are that backward. We're not. It's just me. No, I don't think Australians are backward. No, I think that happened to us the last time, too. But the last time when it happened, we were already an hour and 15 minutes into the show. We had gone over 15 minutes. And then all of a sudden you were gone. I'm like, okay, well, I guess that means the universe is telling us it's time to end the show. But I'm glad if that happens. If that happens, just do what you did. Just call, you know, connect back in. That is great. Amazing. We'll just persevere because, look, the reality behind all of this is that none of us can control anything. If we don't panic and say, oh, it should be working, the reality is it works when it works and it doesn't when it doesn't. And even that is fine. Yes, and the reality of what you're saying is the is-ness of it. I love Katie Byron's book, Love What Is. And that is simply because what is is exactly what it's supposed to be. We put judgments on it by saying, oh, it shouldn't be this way. No, if it is, it should be exactly the way it is. And it is perfect. It's perfect the way it is. We sometimes in this illusion, this movie that we're creating, we don't always see the perfection in every moment. But there is perfection in every moment. And every is-ness moment is perfect. We just are not able to see it from that spiritual realm now. From spirit, we can see, oh, that was a perfect moment, okay? But we're actually in the thick of it. We are. And I just wanted to make clear to people listening to this who don't understand the oneness concept or actually the reality of oneness. It's not even a concept. The thing is, when we say it's all perfect, and I know that there are people who go, oh, these people, they say it's all perfect, you know? It's like, it's not perfect. And what I would say to them is we're not saying, you know, we're laughing at the fact that you're suffering or that someone's starving in somebody's arms or we're witnessing very violent scenes on television through Syria or what have you. We're not saying that, oh, it's all good, you know, great. But what we're saying is that we're not in control in the sense that we're living in a reality that is a separated state of consciousness. And what I mean by that is that I appear separate from Carolyn, and Carolyn would look at me as a separate person from Australia. But the reality of oneness is that we are all consciousness looking out upon the world through what feels like separation. So when we see the suffering of the child who's starving in Africa, obviously we feel great compassion. And I say act on that, by all means, act on it. Go and send something to that child, help that child, or talk about it. But to not enter into the sorrow of the other, because all you're adding from a consciousness perspective is you're adding your own projection of pain onto the world. And it literally, as an energy, moves into the world as fear, and it is actually a real phenomenon. It's not just you thinking by yourself and no one knows. It's like if we all think the world is a terrible, terrible place, then we look through the prism of fear, we see a really, really terrible world. But if we start to become conscious and go, hang on a sec, is it true that my world is horrible? Well, actually, no, I'm sitting here in Australia, I'm on a computer talking to my good friend Carolyn, and it's actually not a terrible world. It's a wonderful world because we're going to talk about this and help people to release the fear and operate out of love. And I'm just thinking of Peace Pilgrim here. I had a look at her video last night. Actually, I went onto your Facebook and I thought, oh, beauty, Carolyn's been putting it out there. Yes, yes, yes. And can you believe, Carolyn, I was dreaming about Peace Pilgrim all night. Really? Oh, I'm addicted to Peace Pilgrim right now. Me too. We can be groupies of Peace Pilgrim. Together, yes. Peace Pilgrim, and I really recommend people Google her, have a look at her. When I say greater than Gandhi, I don't really mean a comparison. I just mean that she was awake and Gandhi was working on it. Gandhi was working on it, he was on his way. But Gandhi is known, of course, because he walked to the Sea of Gandhi in India and he was protesting assault. So he's very well known for someone who's walked long distances. But Peace Pilgrim, an American, a great American lady, she was the one that walked more than 25,000 miles over 28 years in the United States. And she was one of my first inspirations when I became aware of peace. I read her book. I have her book now. I'm going to read it. I've got to read it, yes. Got to read it. Mm-hmm. Now, what she had in her mind is, she was walking 5,000 miles for peace, to remind people about peace in the world. So she said, all I have to do is get up and walk. Now, I premise this by saying that she spent 15 years in internal preparation for her awakening to oneness. Now, that 15 years was all about getting her mind right. Now, when we're looking out upon the world, if we're in a very confused, very painful mindset, we're going to see more and more of that. When we change our mind or when we, if you like, change some of those or question some of those beliefs and we start to look out upon the world with love, then we become proactive. Now, what she did was walk through many, many towns and cities in the United States. She walked across the state seven times and talked to people about peace. Not only world peace, she talked about peace in yourself, which she saw as the highest peace, inner peace, peace in the family, peace in the community, and peace in the world. She discusses that she actually, in her earlier life, through her preparation, she actually worked with disabled people and unwell people. And on her journey, she did actually hook up with a guy who decided to walk with her who was mentally unwell. And she said that he was very frightening. He was a very big man and very violent. And she just walked peacefully with him, talking to him, listening to him with great love. And he did hit her. Like, she got bruised. Right. But she didn't flinch. She did what Gandhi did, turn the other cheek, or Jesus did, turn the other cheek. Nonviolently, she just looked at him with love. And he apparently completely changed from that moment on. Yes, yes. It was from what I know the story. Actually, he was a young man, I think in his late teens, early 20s, and he liked to hike. So she went hiking with him up in the mountains in the woods, and he did get violent. But she didn't, like you said, she didn't respond to his violence. And that shocked him. That surprised him that most people would be fighting him back. And she didn't fight back. And since that moment, he never was violent again. So, yes, just his experience with her changed his life. So what does that tell us about violence? It tells us that you cannot meet violence with violence if you want it to stop. Now, I really want military people to hear this. I want those in the police to hear this. Those who are carrying guns, and I know in the United States most of you carry guns. I just learned of that by an Australian friend traveling there. We don't carry guns here in Australia. I just want to repeat that. Okay. I applaud Australians, then. I applaud you. And we did have a massacre down in Tasmania. We had, what was it called? I can't remember the name of it now. It's the famous massacre where a guy shot a lot of people down in Tasmania. But rather than panic and go, oh, we all need to be armed to protect us, thankfully here in Australia they said, we actually are going to take the arms out of the community is what they did. So they actually did an amnesty here and they disarmed people. So what I'm saying is I remember when I studied peace studies, we looked at the weapons. Now, the weapon itself is inert. If nobody pulls the trigger, it's inert. It's just a gun. If you've got no bullets in it, it's just a piece of metal. The problem is the consciousness holding the gun that says, this extension of myself will protect me from the bad people in the world. Now, that's a very good guy, bad guy view of the world. The world is not like that. Every human being has goodness in them. If they're in the wrong environment, they can be trained by their parents or their schools or their media that the world is a dangerous place. It's actually not dangerous. And I know, having travelled the world by myself to 20 countries, that I'm living in a very beautiful world. And what I can say to people, and this is, again, linking to Pilgrim as well, when you look out through the prism of love into the face of what you fear and you don't mirror it, you don't mirror it with fear, you mirror it with love, what you're doing for the other person is you're saying, I don't believe your lie. I don't believe your lie that you think that you're a bad person and that you have to hurt me. What is within you that feels so much pain that you feel you have to hurt me? What is it within you? Now, this is a very, very powerful question. The moment I ask that question of that person, what is it that makes them feel so much pain they want to hurt me, that person, you will reach them because that's the real reason why they're intending violence against you is because they're suffering so intensely that they're projecting their pain onto you. And when they look at you, they see you through the prism of fear and that's why they create the enemy or they create the other or they create victims. Now, if you don't mirror that and you see a person suffering, then compassion naturally is there and then you will reach out to that person and they will be disarmed. Mentally, they will be disarmed. Now, Peace Pilgrim did that also with a guy that was about to molest a child in a barn. Do you remember that story? I do, yes. You do? Yes. She was looking after the child. She saw him going into the barn after the child and she went and stood between the man and the child and she looked at him with unconditional love and she stood there for a long time. Now, he obviously wasn't expecting this woman to be standing there and he was confused. He would have been confused that her not going, get out of here and screaming at him and protecting the child, which just parents would do or adults, instead she just waited and Byron Kaye would do the same thing. They'd wait and look at the person with love and the lie of their story is what falls away. That's the transformation in the art because you're not mirroring them that they're ----, that they're a bad person, and if they think they're bad, that will provoke the violent attack. If you're looking at them with love and the mirror is you're actually beautiful, I love you, I'm not condoning the action but I'm loving you, they can't hold the story. They can't hold the story so it falls away. Yes, it transforms. That's the power of love. So love, for those who think love is a fluffy feminine concept, it's not. It is the absolute substance of who we are. It is who we are when we stop thinking. Yes, it is. So true. So love is the answer to every problem, every question. Love is the answer. And love is the only thing. It's not just words. When you say love is the only thing that will conquer hate. You can't conquer hate with hate. The only thing that conquers hate is love. And like you said, it is a mirror. The outer world is a mirror of our inner color. You're talking collectively. Collectively, the more we look at the world, we're thinking it's a horrible place. We do that collectively because we are each cells in the body of humanity. I like that, to think of that analogy. So we're each cell. And so each cell has the power to project onto the canvas of reality. And if every cell is projecting an image of, you know, this is a bad place, then that's what is going to manifest. But if every cell says, no, this is a beautiful world, and every cell starts to resonate and project that this is a beautiful world, what are we going to manifest? We're going to manifest a beautiful world. It's all about energy. I love to say science has proven this. Science has proven this for so many years, maybe close to 100 years. Science has proven that everything is energy. There is nothing truly outside of us but energy. And we're all energy. And we're all, you know, resonating and vibrating, like you were saying, at certain frequencies. And the higher our frequency, we raise our frequency, the more we're going to experience who we truly are, which is the essence of love, and that we all are that. So it's so true what you say. I love the fact that so many people in this day and age, in 2016, there's so many people every day waking up to the truth of oneness, the truth of who they are, which is an inseparable spark of God. You are love. You are the essence of love. That is what you are. And when you wake up to that truth, you have no fear. And you see that the world is beautiful, and everything is beautiful. Like you said, you don't condone, of course. We're not condoning anything that a person might do that is, I don't like to use the word positive or negative anymore because I know that everything is neutral, and we put labels on it. But I don't condone anything at a lower vibration. That's it, because it's all vibration. Higher vibration is what I reach for, a higher vibration moment. And so if something is lower vibration, which is, like you say, pushing against, it's restrictive, so that lower vibration energy, you don't condone it, but what you try to do is raise your vibration and your frequency so just like Peace Pilgrim. And I agree with you. I believe everybody should know Peace Pilgrim's story the way they know Gandhi. I really do. I think she's so amazing that I am just newly watching these videos on YouTube and hearing her speak. I love hearing her give lectures in her own words. And she's just an amazing inspiration, and I think she should be as well-known as Gandhi or the Dalai Lama or any of these wonderful pilgrims of peace, because she was just as influential in her day. And it's all about, as I was saying, it's all about frequency. So what she did is she was vibrating at such a high frequency, anyone around her, their frequency would have to ride. Their frequency would meet that love. Susan, are you still there? I am. I know you're probably thinking, oh, no, she's gone again. All right. I just wanted to make sure I didn't lose you there. But, yeah, it's all about, like what you said, the love. The highest frequency is love. And when you shine that love on another, it's going to tap into the love that they are, and it's going to disarm them. That's how you disarm people, is with love. Yes. Absolutely. And just going back to frequency, it's not even that people will necessarily rise to your frequency. It's just that your frequency will actually create a reality for you that mirrors that frequency. So when I went around the world, I met nothing but nice people. And I kind of smiled because there could have been, maybe there was someone that was negative, but they weren't attracted into my space. Right. Exactly. So I was travelling to, you know, Thailand and India and Egypt, Greece, UK, Ireland, United States, down through Central and South America, and not one negative thing happened. Not one. And that was over six months. Yes. And I clowned on the streets, and I met people from all walks of life. Now, they would have just seen, I brought my local with me, so I would dress them up as a clown and go out and meet the people. And what you see through the eyes of a clown, which is the same as what you would see through the eyes of Peace Pilgrim or Byron Katie or Jeshua, you would see the same thing. So if people who aren't awakened want to know what awakening feels like, go and be a clown. But, you know, be a clown, you have to be in a loving space. You can't be, you know, I was just going to use an Australian acronym there, ---- scared. You can't be scared. So you have to be in a place of I love everyone and everything. Then you get the feeling of what the true oneness is. When I'm a clown on the street, I can only see beauty, and I am fear, I feel no fear of anyone. I can sit with someone who's on the street, who's a drunk or drunk, you know, what are they, a-drunk? They're labelling. They're not a-drunk. They're drunk a lot. Or perhaps someone who's on drugs, you know, and, in fact, those people who are on those substances, by the way, are simply trying to get what I've got. They're looking for, they are, they're looking to feel good, and they're also looking to thin the bad feelings that they're feeling inside, and that's why they drink alcohol or take substances like, you know, marijuana or heroin or whatever. So what I'm saying is I sit with them and I only see beauty, and because they see me as a clown, they mirror back to me love, and they laugh, and they know that my intention is innocent. So typically they're positive, but sometimes, every now and then, I'll meet someone who really is not in a good space, and I just blow them a kiss and I move on. But ultimately, going to the scenario that we talked about, about being a cell in the body of God, I was thinking about cancer, and I was thinking how people who are not well, who are in hospital, who are sick, typically those people, if they were to examine their thinking, may well find that their thinking is the mirror of their unwellness. So out of balance, they're out of balance. So when we come into hospitals as clowns, we project to the people love, which actually can have an impact on how they feel inside themselves. Now, if you're feeling good, if you start feeling good and you start laughing and you do it a lot, you'll actually lift the frequency in the cells in the body, and that's how we can go into remission. And I know that from my discussions with an Italian priest down in southern Thailand, I was at a HIV clinic with Rotary when I was on the Rotary program in Bangkok. We actually talked to prostitutes about their experiences in Thailand, and these were low-class and high-class prostitutes. When I say the word class, I'm not saying that one's better than the other. I'm saying that they had a market. You know, the high-class prostitutes went to the very wealthy men, and the low-class were in a situation where they couldn't stop servicing, if you like. And it was a privilege to meet these women and to learn from them. And also to... Yeah, go on. Did you want to say something? No, no, no, I just wanted to say you were breaking up a little bit, so I wanted you to repeat what you just said, because you were breaking up. All right. What I was saying... Is that better? Yes. Can you hear me now? Yes. Okay, I'm just checking. What I was saying was when I was in southern Thailand at a HIV clinic with the Rotary program, we were talking with high-class and low-class prostitutes. Now, the high-class prostitutes, they have clients that are very wealthy, and the low-class prostitutes tend to have an experience where they're serving one man after the other. It's a very harrowing experience. All of them are doing it for economic reasons. They're not doing it because they want to. They believe they have to. But if we look at frequency, their frequency is low. They're in a situation where they believe they have no power. I decided to dress as a clown and visit the prostitutes in their 40-bed facility, and I got to play with some of the women. These women were very, very skinny because they were close to death. It was very sad for them. But nonetheless, as a clown, when I walk into that space, I feel no sadness. When I'm in a space of playing with them, all I'm looking for is where we can connect, where we can relate. I always remember one of the prostitutes. She will always be with me. I remember I could see the spark in her eye. You were saying before that everyone has the divine spark. Well, I see that spark in the eyes of people when they're really happy. She was really happy. Typically, if she wasn't so far down the road, I believe if she had some interventions early with humour and positivity, she might well have gone into remission. The guy who ran the facility was an Italian priest. He said that they started to use humour in the facility. He said, do have cases of remission because the people are feeling better within themselves. Of course, your whole medical kit is within your body, your mind. If you believe very powerfully with all your being that you're well, and I believe that there are stories from Jesus who says that he looked only upon wellness. He didn't really heal anyone. His belief was unshakable and they believed him. Because they believed him, they became well. But if they changed their mind later, then that wellness disappeared again. So, the power of the mind is unbelievable. I mean, how many people have we heard that have lifted cars off children because all they could think of was saving the child? Yes. So, imagine that sort of power if we would actually really tap into that. It could be very interesting, couldn't it? Well, there have been. I don't know. Are you familiar with Dr. Bruce Lipton, the biology of belief? Yes. Okay, yes. Yes. He's been here on Awake to Wellness Radio. He is amazing. His work is amazing and it's so true. There's so much that has been, so much study has been done with laughter and just, you know, laughter and healing. Laughter is the best medicine. When you really are feeling that joy within, not just laughing. And I say that because I recently had a guest that is a comedian and he said it's not just laughing to be laughing because they have this thing called laugh yoga where, you know, laughter is contagious. They just start laughing. But he's saying what he feels that the laugh yoga also needs is humor to actually to have a funny joke, something that really makes you laugh, not just to be laughing to be laughing, which I get what he's saying. It's to be laughing from a true level of enjoyment is the best medicine. I mean, I think everybody in the world would be cured if they just started laughing. Steve Bremmerman, wasn't it? Steve is right to some degree. But the reason the laughter yoga people go laugh for no reason is because people interpret jokes differently. And the power of the laughter yoga is to be taken right across the world without insulting anyone. You and I might find a joke funny, but someone will look at us and go, that's really outrageous. Very true, very true. Yes, we have different sense of humor. But I do understand with the humor because I did see, I don't know if you saw the DVD, The Secret. And I'll never forget The Secret. I have to watch it again because I have it and I haven't watched it in like over 10 years. But I'd love to watch it again because there is a section in there where a lady was diagnosed with cancer and all she did, she went home and she watched comedy after comedy. And she literally cured herself with laughter. She didn't do any traditional Western medicine. She just knew that she could cure, heal herself with laughter. And that's what she did. So I think that's so amazing. And I think you'll find with Indigenous people, like in Australia we've got the Australian Aboriginal. They would, you know, some of the, I think it was the medicine man who would point the bone. He'd point the bone at a tribe member and that tribe member would go away and die. I see that. It's not the power of the bone. You can pick up any bone and point it at someone. But it's actually the power of the belief of the tribe person to believe that bone has power. And you can say the same with the gun. We can say the same with government. We can say the same with anything that, you know, these things have power. Well, they only have power if you believe they do. Exactly. The power of belief. That is so, so true. And I hear, I listen to people talk and I hear people will say, well, it can't, this can't happen or that can't happen. And the only thing I think, and I don't say it, I just think it most of the time, is that is your belief. You know, that is so, and it's true. If you believe you can't, you can't. If you believe you can, you can. That is so true. And often people think what they believe. And I just met someone recently who I could see really clearly his beliefs. And his beliefs were quite negative. And it was good. He was a teacher for me in that moment. And I was thinking, yes, there are various, you know, mindsets that really believe what they're thinking is true. And they believe themselves. They believe that's who they are. And that's the unconsciousness, you know, when you're so locked into your own thinking and believing the whole world thinks like you when really the whole world doesn't think like you. The world thinks very differently. You know, I have a lovely mother who for years she was a great teacher for me because she really believed everyone should think like her. And I used to say to her, mom, mom, I'm not thinking what you're thinking. And the flip side of that was that I had a partner for many years who I really believed I knew what he was thinking until one day he said, no, that's not what I'm thinking. And then I went, oh, okay. Okay. But that's so, no, you hit upon something very key. I mean, a lot of times, especially like in relationships, a lot of times we want the other person to be able to read our mind. We don't, like he said, he finally said, no, that's not what I'm thinking. So when a person's like, I know what you're thinking, and they say it, and if it's not accurate, then you should speak up and say, no, that's not what I'm thinking. That's what you're thinking. And I do that all the time with a friend of mine. I tell her all the time, we see, she's still a dear friend of mine. We talk all the time. I love her to death. We don't see eye to eye in almost anything. We see things totally differently. But, see, that's an example of what I was talking about before. I mean, I can love her. I can spend time with her. But we see things. We could be experiencing the exact same thing or watching the exact same movie. We have totally different viewpoints on what we just saw or what just happened. But I have to remind her all the time, your perception is very different from my perception. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with it. I can still love you and we can share and like, no, I didn't get that from that. I got this from that. It was totally different. A lot of times it would be opposite. What she got from something, I got the exact opposite from it. So it's funny. But that's a perfect example of how two people can coexist in love without being clones of each other. You know, you don't have to be a clone. You can still love the person for just who they are. And that, I think, what's true, too, is that... Go ahead. No, that's okay. I was having a humorous moment. And when you were saying clones of each other, I was thinking clowns. Yeah. No, but it's like, I think what it is, the more, I think the more you awaken to truth of oneness and who you really are, the more honest you are with yourself and with others. And I think that's key. Because when you can be honest with yourself first and then honest with others, people will perceive you as you are. And they either, you're like, okay, here I am. Love me, you know, for me. This is me. Love me for me. It's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing when you awaken. And it is, like you said, with Peace Pilgrim, it took her 15 years to prepare for her walking, for her journey, for her pilgrimage. It took her 15 years of preparation. So, it is a process. I always say it's a moment-to-moment process. Now, I hope I didn't lose you. Are you there? Ah, Suzanne. Okay, I think we, and you know, we have about, you can call back in, but we have about two and a half minutes left in this show. I wasn't planning on going over an hour tonight just for the fact that I have been working so much this week. I am just so exhausted. But I think we did lose Suzanne. But, you know, I'm going to see if she calls back in. She's wonderful. Actually, I've become very good friends with Suzanne. She is on the other side of the world, and she's like my sister. We talk. We Skype. You know, we Skype a lot. We email each other weekly. So, she's amazing. We are very much in alignment. But see, this shows you. I have Suzanne who's on the other side of the world who is completely in alignment with me, and I have another friend right here in the Poconos, and we're like water and oil, oil and water. But I love her to death, you know. So, that shows you that you can love someone and not always have to agree with them, and that that is a good lesson to learn about peace. Because that's what really oneness is all about, is peace and love and just living each moment from a place of love. So, I actually think we have lost Suzanne. She is not coming back, but it's all good. We had a wonderful show with her, and we will be talking to her soon and probably having another show. Okay, and hopefully she may either come to the States soon, and that would be amazing. So, Suzanne, I love you. Thank you so much. Thank you, listeners. Have a great weekend. All the best. Love you. Good night.