A bigger paycheck can make you look successful, but it does not automatically make you wealthy. Anthony breaks down the difference between income and net worth, sharing how he once made six figures and still had nothing left by the end of the month. He explains how lifestyle creep, car payments, and consumer debt quietly eat every raise, then lays out the order for turning income into actual wealth: build margin, create a 3–6 month freedom fund, eliminate consumer debt, and start buying assets that work for you. Financial freedom isn't about how much money passes through your hands; it is about how much stays and what you do with it.
⏱️ IN THIS EPISODE 00:00 – Introduction 04:44 – The number most people never track: what you own minus what you owe 09:57 – Why margin matters more than a raise—and how payments keep eating your income 15:14 – The wealth-building shift: let your income rise while keeping your expenses flat 20:30 – How lifestyle creep can leave you looking successful but owning nothing 25:37 – Build margin → save 3–6 months → kill consumer debt → buy assets 30:18 – Why building wealth usually looks boring, unsexy, and consistent
Anthony O'Neill explains that high income does not equal wealth. He distinguishes between income (cash flow) and net worth (assets minus liabilities), warning against lifestyle inflation and the trap of financing luxury items. True financial freedom is achieved by building margin, eliminating consumer debt, and investing in assets that provide long-term stability rather than outward status.
There's a question almost nobody has ever asked you out loud,
and it is the one that actually decides whether you're free.
Not what do you make, but what are you worth?
The difference between making a lot of money
and actually being worth something.
If you have ever said, I made good money and I still feel behind,
this conversation is for you.
Here's what I believed for most of my 20s.
If the paycheck got bigger,
the wealth would show up behind it on its own.
your income tells you what passes through
your hands, your net worth tells you what stays
a payment is your income converting into someone else's asset
but that payment is your hard work a
piece of your first number leaves your account
and becomes wealth on somebody else's balance sheet
everything i have watched failed on sequences
not on effort i'm giving you your number the four
places that gap opens up in a working person's life
and the exact order you close them in. Go
find out what you are actually worth.
Stewardship is the foundation of wealth building. It's not
just about having a lot of money and being wealthy,
but it's about having and experiencing
freedom. My name is Anthony O'Neill,
and you're watching The Table with your boy, Al
Can you imagine what it would feel like to wake up
tomorrow morning and not worry about anything
around money not because you won the lottery
not because you suddenly became rich but because you
finally had a plan with structure
and a plan that gave you more margin peace and confidence that's
what exactly financial freedom really feels like
and this is exactly why i wrote my brand new book
Stop Living Paycheck to Paycheck
because if you're ready to stop surviving and start building
the life you and your family and your loved ones
actually deserve i need you to go to anthonyoneal.com
forward slash book and order your copy today
as a matter of fact order two copies one for you and
one for your loved ones again that's anthonyoneal.com forward
slash book and i promise you if you read
it and apply it within the next 12
to 18 months you're gonna see fruit from just you reading let
me ask you something uh that no one's probably never asked you out loud
and forgive me today
because man, I have been on tour.
So my body is tired, but I refuse to skip through today's
episode. The question I want to ask you that I've
been asking people lately is what are you worth?
Not, not how much money do you make?
Not, not what does your paycheck say? I'm asking you,
what are you worth? What are you and your spouse worth?
What is your last name worth? You can
answer the first one right now.
You could probably say to the dollar, I make X amount of dollars a
year, but most people cannot answer the second question at all.
And the distance between how
fast you answered those two questions is the whole reason a good salary
and a real net worth
are not the same thing. I know the distance personally.
I remember making $100,000 a year
and had nothing left by the end of the month.
Literally, I would get paid when I was making six figures,
my very first six-figure job, get paid on the 15th,
and no later than the 26th, I was broke.
So here is what we're gonna be doing today
on today's episode.
I'm gonna be giving you your second number
in the next three minutes.
Then the four places, that gap opens up
in a working person's life,
and the order, you need to be closing them.
That's what we're talking about today.
Let me let me say this or put like this.
Let me say what is true about a pay rate,
because here's the truth.
Income does matter. And anyone
who tells you your salary is irrelevant has never tried
to build something on thirty two thousand dollars a year, period.
But here is what I but here's what I believed for most of my 20s.
and a lot of you believe it too even today
that if the paycheck got bigger if the paycheck
got big enough the wealth will show up behind it
on its own if I could just get to six figures
if I can just get to making a hundred two hundred thousand dollars
a year the rest of it will take
care of itself and that is the belief I gotta take apart today
that is the belief that kept me stuck
for a while. That is the belief that when I was making $20,000 a month,
I was broke by the next
one. Because here's the truth.
I don't know if we can put this on the screen, put this in the
comments, take a screenshot of this,
but your income tells you what passes through your hands.
Your net worth tells you what stayed.
I'm going to say that one more time. Your income is going
to tell me about yourself, how much money you made,
but your net worth tells me how much stayed,
how much margin you had and how you were using your margin
and here's how you can run it here's
how you can run it i need you to add up everything
on your own checking savings retirement accounts
what your car would sell for today
and your home if you actually own a home then watch this then
add up everything you owe credit cards
car loans student loans yes your mortgage anything finance
anything that you owe money to. IRS. Watch this.
Child support. Subtract the second one from the
first. Family. That's your number.
Family. That is what you are worth.
Some of you are going to run
that. Some of it, actually, a lot of us are going
to come out to the negative. And I got you. I need
you to stay with me because that is not a cause for alarm.
That is the most common result in the
united states of america and i have personally
lived it i'm gonna say it one more time and and
and and and i want you to notice how you feel
when you do it because the first number you knew
instantly it's printed on your paychecks up
when you get it on friday it's it's sitting inside your
account sometimes on friday you'll see it for a split second
but that second number you gotta go
digging for that number your job does not put it
on your offer letter the whole world is is is built
to ask you what you make
and never once ask you what you kept.
We're in 2026 and let me just go
there. I'm going to say this again.
I'm not a relationship coach. I'm only speaking from
experience, but in dating,
we want to ask what's your credit score and how much money do you make?
When those are the two questions I really don't give a crap about.
I'm going to tell you two
questions that I would love to get to eventually within dating.
How much are you worth and how much
do you tie you see
because we've never once asked how much
you've kept never once asked how much
you're worth and that is how a person works 20 years watches
the first number climb the entire
time and never notices the second one has
not moved you've never noticed that your net worth
has evolved stayed the same or gone down why
because we're not trained to think about net
worth we're trained to think about how much money we make
and what's our credit score does he or she
have an 800 credit score and does he
or she make at least 80 100 000 a year if they got those two
things i'm happy you can have
an 800 credit score making 150,000 a year
and be worth nothing let me
let me let me start at the top people who already
have a big second because what happens to them
tells you what the number is for.
Wait, we ain't going to start at the bottom today. Now, let me go to
the top. Currently today, there are roughly 24 million,
I said it correctly, 24 million
millionaire households in America.
Only about 6 million of them have a 1 million, I would say,
have 1 million they can actually touch investments,
retirement accounts, cash. So, wait, wait, wait.
24 million Anthony, but you said there's only roughly what six
so Anthony that's leaving out
about 18 million people absolutely
so what about those other 18 million huh they are millionaires
inside a building they sleep in let's sit right there i want
to see if you can understand what
i'm saying before i even break that down they're
a millionaire inside a building they're sleeping
in no let me say this up front i believe
in in home ownership i am a homeowner owning your home
bought responsibly is one of the strongest wealth building tools
an everyday american can honestly
do that does not change it will not change
but a house you live in does not pay you it charges you
the roof the water the heater taxes the insurance
that climbs every year whether you ask for it or
not the number on the appraisal is real
and it does not put one dollar in your account on the
first of the month so so so watch what happens
to somebody in that group they're worth 1.2 million
then the transmission goes out
and they are putting four thousand dollars on a credit card
at 22.4 percent interest because there
is a uh uh there there's 1.2 million sitting in the walls
of the home and six hundred dollars sitting
in the bank you're living in a million dollar house
but you only got $500.
That changes how you look at your own second number.
You see, I believe this.
It is not a scoreboard.
It is a measure of whether you own anything
that works for you, anything.
You can have a paid off house
and 90 days before you cannot make the payment
or anything else.
You can look like the most successful person on your street
and be one emergency away from starting all the way over.
What makes you free is not the size of the number,
it's how much of it can show up when
you need it, when you need it.
So run yours in two parts,
the total and what part can you actually touch today?
Go run it.
If you go over to anthonyoneill.com,
there's a free wealth calculator on there.
It'll take you maybe about two minutes.
The link is going to be inside of today's show description.
Now, the rest of today's episode is going
to land a little differently when you actually
know your number.
every single day, I'm asking myself questions.
How am I evolving my net worth, not my income?
How am I building my margin, not my income?
Before you invest a single dollar, build a
business, or chase any goal,
there's one thing that has to be true first. You have to be consumer
debt free. Most people try to build wealth before they even know where
their money's actually going.
They have no budget. They have no plan, aka they have no strategy.
Just consumer debt piling up
in the background while life keeps moving forward.
That's why I built In The Black,
the app that gives you a daily money coach in your pocket.
It walks you through my five-phase
escape plan, builds you a zero-based budget,
and tells you exactly, watch this, exactly what to do
with your money every single day.
Not every month, not every week, but every single day when you wake
up. You see, this isn't just theory.
It's the same process that has helped over a hundred thousand
families get out of debt.
Real people like yourself are paying off thousands of dollars
using this app. One guided step at a time.
All you gotta do is go to anthonyoneill.com forward slash
app right now. Take a two minute quiz and please be honest
and get your personalized plan. Fix your
foundation first, then go build whatever's next.
Go to anthonyoneill.com forward slash app and let's
get back to today's show this is something
that i'm teaching my students at Virginia Union University
like yo i don't want you to really more
so worry about your income income is important but the most
important number is margin because margin builds
your network now let's have a conversation about
let's talk about my car you see when i was homeless
in oceanside california in my early 20s
i slept in a 1987 nissan maxima that could not go
in reverse i had two 12s and a thousand watt
amp in the back of that joint it was five years later i
was making a hundred thousand dollars
selling nissans and i was driving
a brand new nissan maxima right off the lot i don't think
i think it just got off the truck
and i bought it two days later watch this same badge same car
about five to ten years apart i said about five
years apart stuck both times i want you to sit
with that because it took me years to really understand this.
The car changed, but the plan
did not. I upgraded the thing everybody could see.
Watch this. And never touched the thing
nobody could see. When I think about that,
I get so frustrated with the younger, immature self of
me because here is why the 26 kept arriving early.
I got paid on the 15. By the 26, there was nothing
left. 11 days of a paycheck,
but I still had 19 days left before my next paycheck. And a large
part of the reason was sitting in my driveway
with a payment attached to it. Nobody, when I was
younger, ever explained to me what
a payment actually is. No one.
I want this on the screen
some kind of way, team. We can put this up there.
I want y'all to, I really want you to understand
this, what I'm about to say, because what I'm about
to say is it is going to offend some of
you. It's going to hurt some of your feelings.
But when I realized this for myself, I changed my
whole life. I'm going to say it slowly.
Ed, I want this on the screen. People, I want this on the
screen. I'm going to say it again.
Do not edit this out of the show. A payment is your income
converting into somebody else's asset.
I'm going to say that one more time. Let me say this.
Christian people, forgive me. I'm so grateful I'm not a pastor.
I love the Lord with everything on
inside of me. But look at the hell
that you're going through.
You look good, smell good, pulling
up good. Brothers, the lady's looking at you like,
dang, but that payment is your income that you
work Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
some days, Saturday and Sunday. You're busting your
rear end for it. But that payment
is your hard work converting into someone else's easy asset.
Every month, a piece of your first number leaves your account
and becomes wealth on somebody else's
balance sheet they don't even know
your name they don't really even give a crap about you you pay
for the privilege of using it
and at the end you own a fraction of what you put in that's why i
don't finance my cars anymore
and i am not going to soften that today i do not believe in consumer
debt i am purchasing used cars with cash
and and and and and man i'm sitting on my own cash i got
i got i got i got people i don't really call them friends
but i got people who like to brag yeah i
got the latest and the greatest black
while you bragging about the latest and the greatest i'm
sorry if y'all watching this on youtube
um um um but you sitting there bragging about the latest
and the greatest now here's what you're bragging about i'm bragging
because my payment my income
i just gave to someone else for an asset
and we gotta stop saying i'm buying a car so i can write
it off for taxes you i can come up
with some better ways you can use your money to not be
someone else's asset to where it can really
be your asset no you bought the car because you
want to flex you bought the car because you want to pull up
and you want valet to leave your car
in the front so you financed it so so you went
and did your thing because you want to flex without
a real strategy you see i purchased
cars specifically used cars with cash
because i want
my income to rise and i need my expenses
to stay flat four thousand dollars and ten thousand dollars
and higher. The car came after the money, not before it.
I haven't purchased my exotic cars,
my exotic luxury cars, because I want to sit here and flex.
I have them. You know what I'm saying?
I got the real, real expensive cars, but my income went up.
I kept my expenses low. I was talking to
one of my frat brothers the other day.
I said, bro, here's what I love, that if everything shut
down today. I can get in my luxury cars
and I could be either two things can happen. I could
be the dopest looking broke man on the planet,
or I could take my cars and I could sell them
and I can get three, $400,000 for them.
Listen, I really want you
to understand what I just said
right there. I really want you to think about
that every time you finance something, that your
income is supposed to be a tool for you and your family.
It's not supposed to be an asset for
someone else's family who don't give a crap about your lifestyle
so if you're in a car loan right
now listening to me in the car i am not asking you to feel bad
because heck i financed one too
and mine was actually brand new which was even worse
y'all i'm sorry to say this stop stop bragging
about you bought a brand new 2026 2027 vehicle
because to us mature people we understand that
That was dumb from a financial, from finance,
like, bro, I'd rather you brag about you
financed a three-year-old
car where all the depreciation is pretty much gone.
Lie to the world, lie to it.
I'm sorry, but let me ask you this question.
Do you see what keeps happening?
Every one of these in the same mood,
the first number goes up and then something quietly
attaches itself to it.
And so the second one never gets fed.
We keep eating at the second number, which again,
don't forget the second number is our
network.
when are we going to start having conversations
with our children about net worth? When is the
last time you sat down with your 15-year-old son,
your 10-year-old son, your 18-year-old son,
and you asked them the question, what's your net worth?
When is the last time you asked your son,
your daughter that, and they said, net worth?
What do you mean? Get the daggone phone up out
their hand. I don't give a crap about what TikTok is saying.
And start educating our
children to start thinking differently before they leave your home.
Everybody thinks more
income is the answer. I thought more income was the answer.
I went and I got more income. And by
the end of the month, I was broke.
Let me take you to Oceanside, California. You see, every Friday,
a group of us went to the beach to play volleyball.
Every single Friday. All of our cars were clean.
Everybody was looking good.
And everyone looked like we were doing well financially. You see,
one night, you've heard me tell this story.
One of my friends, he asked me for $5 to go to
McDonald's. This is the same friend that was driving
a Range Rover sitting on 24, specifically
spinning wheels 24. But the same man who asked me for $5,
who was driving a Range Rover sitting on
24 wheels, is the same man that was also living
with his mom in her basement. And I want to be
honest about what happened next,
because the easy version of this story is to make me the smart one
in the parking lot. But I was not.
I looked around at all of us, myself included, nice cars, but all
was living with our parents and grandparents.
Nobody really had anything. I was doing the same
thing he was doing in a slightly cheaper package.
But that was the night I knew I had to change my
life financially. Not because I was better than anybody standing there,
because I really wasn't,
because I finally saw that I was honestly one of them.
And here is what was happening to all of us.
When your income goes up and your lifestyle goes up right behind it,
your second dollar does not move a dollar.
You felt the raise for about six weeks.
Then the apartment got nicer and the car got nicer.
Maybe your kids needed a nicer daycare and you landed
in the same place with a bigger number on your offer letter
and the same empty account at the end of the month.
That is why just make more money is the most expensive advice
and in personal finance.
It is incomplete.
More income with the same habits builds a more expensive version of the
life you are trying to lead.
Now, somebody watching this is 45 years old, has been working
since they were 19, and just did the math
and realized 26 years of work is not sitting anywhere
they can point to. The years were not wasted.
You never were just taught the right information.
See, I have the honor of teaching consumer economics
at Virginia Union. My students arrive
at 19, and most of them have already worked several jobs,
and they do not know what a high
yield savings account is. They do not even know what interest means.
Listen, the very first day
of class, I write one word on the board, and it's called margin.
And to this day, 90% of the
students do not know what margin means when it comes to our finances.
Think about what we tell
them. You go to school, get a degree.
The degree gets you what? A job or a career. The job or
career gives you what? A paycheck.
So you came all the way for a paycheck and nobody in that chain
ever taught you what to do with what you were really needing?
So let me give you the order
because the order is the strategy.
Everything I have watched failed, including my own 20s,
failed on sequences, not on effort.
So let me give you the order. I want to give you the order.
First, you build margin. You see, margin is a gap.
I'm going to play this. Margin is a gap between
what comes in and what goes out
and without it nothing else in this video is available to you
you cannot buy anything that pays you with money you
do not have left what i'm specifically saying
here is we have to give our money direction before
the month starts listen a budget is not punishment
it it is it is you deciding where the money goes instead
of finding out after so many videos and
I've seen so many interviews like, you know, budgeting is not enough.
I never said budgeting is enough, but budgeting is the foundation.
Budgeting is very, very important.
Here's the second thing.
You build your freedom number.
Your freedom number is the beginning number of three
to six months of your net pay, your take-home pay,
the number that actually hits your account.
I'm not talking about three to six months of essentials.
No, no, no.
Over here, I want you to have three to six months of your net pay.
And here's why.
An essential only cushion means that during
the most consequential stretch of your working life,
you are living a stripped down, a stripped down version of your life.
A person living scared makes what? Scared decisions.
They take the first offer that comes in.
They take the first opportunity that comes in.
That is a shorter leash. That's not really freedom.
And you already know this number. It is one number of a direct deposit.
You can do this in 10 seconds at a red light.
I make $5,000 a month.
I need to put $15,000 up.
And then the third one, y'all, you've got to kill your consumer debt.
I talk about this inside of my brand new book,
Stop Living Paycheck to Paycheck.
You got to go after that smallest balance first,
every single time, and then just gradually
work your way out there.
I know some of y'all about to bring up the interest rate.
You got a credit card with 26% and a card with 11%,
and the math says go after the 26%.
Okay, I hear you.
But I only teach the debt snowball method
because I need to get quick wins.
The moment we can get quick wins, that is the moment.
That is the moment we feel excited because here's what I've learned.
A plan you quit returns 0%.
It does not matter what rate it was aimed at.
So you clear the smallest one and it disappears completely.
And when you see that win, you're going to be excited.
And here's the fourth and only fourth you buy things that pay.
Now the margin has somewhere to go.
retirement accounts, index funds, ETFs,
a home bought responsibly when you are ready for it.
This is where everybody wants to start.
And starting here while you're carrying unnecessary
high cost consumer debt, that's how people stay busy
for a decade without moving. And here's what
my doctoral work keeps confirming.
Winning with money in America takes a system you actually
follow and the system is not attractive there
is no hoping your way into it that people who get
free ran a unglamorous unsexy boring plan in order
for years while it was just extremely boring if
you want to get that plan go to anthonyoneal.com forward slash book
or just go to amazon i think
amazon at the time of me recording this the book
is on sale for 19 bucks man we made it into the
top 100 business and money books.
It was absolutely amazing.
But family, I want you to start asking
yourself two times a year, what's my net worth?
When we do that, things change. Start educating
your kids. What's your net worth?
Peers, people around my same age, start asking your parents,
what's your net worth? Because at the end of the day,
it is the net worth that is going to provide
a lifestyle for us when we get older.
And if you're in your 20s and 30s and 40s, and you're
not thinking about your 50s, 60s, and 70s, I feel sorry for you.
I was talking to one of my young
friends. He's mid-30s, and he out there wilding.
He look good, live in a house just as big as me,
got a beautiful car just as nice as me,
doesn't even make half of my income. But every time he
pull up to my house, he got a beautiful young lady with him.
Well, yesterday, he came to the
house without a lady.
And I said, bro, just make sure that the decisions you're making today,
your mature 55, 65 year old self will say thank you.
Because there are some decisions that I made
in my thirties around relationships,
around business, around money that man, my 55 year
old self is not going to like.
So my 40 year old self is trying to make better decisions to make
sure that my 55 and 65 year old self will say thank you.
Two times a year I'm asking myself,
what is my net worth? I'm gonna end today's show
with this question: what's your net worth?
maybe you can't answer it, be able
to answer it next show, see you next one