Join us at Two Guys Timber Framing as we explore the potential value of a three-year-old hickory log, a true forestry find that could yield valuable lumber. This old log, which has been dead for some time, may still have a lot to offer in terms of unique wood and spalted lumber, perfect for woodworking and wood crafts. We'll be putting our timber skills to the test to see if this antique hickory can still be used for wood framing, carpentry, and other timber projects. With the help of sawmilling and tree felling techniques, we'll determine the lumber value of this hickory log and uncover its full potential. From hand cut timber to traditional carpentry, we'll show you how to bring out the best in this old wood, despite the presence of bugs and grubs. Whether you're into wood collecting or just looking for a forestry gem, this video is for you, so stay tuned to find out if this three-year-old hickory still has what it takes to be a valuable addition to your next wood project. With our expertise in timber framing and sawmilling, we'll help you understand the process of evaluating the value of old logs and dead trees, and how to make the most of them in your woodworking and wood crafts endeavors.
A creator mills a hickory tree that had been dead and standing for three years to see if it was still viable for lumber. Despite concerns about rot and insects, the process yielded 660 board feet of high-quality wood, featuring a mix of rustic spalted sections and solid heartwood, proving the tree was far more valuable as premium lumber than as firewood.
Take a good look at this hickory tree.
It has been standing dead for about three years right now
and it's at the point where this is a liability
and it has to come down. But before we turn this
into firewood, I always have one question.
What's in the center of this log? Is this wood from this
hickory tree
still valuable?
So this tree has
been standing here
for three years dead
and what has
happened to the inside of this log here
is the wood good is the wood deteriorated
is there bugs in this thing what could possibly
be going on that killed this
tree now if this was your tree would you mill it
or would you turn it into the
firewood let us know in the comments us we're gonna cut
this down we're gonna
throw it on the mill and we're going
to find out what's going on in there
here's
hard
my
friend
holy
smoke
nicely done man that was perfect the first luck we had jay was yeah
and one of the reasons that
i've been putting off cutting this tree down
is because how close it is to the main water line
into Timber Town and i was always afraid
that yeah something's gonna happen i'm busting that
pipe and today i'm gonna be doing plumbing
so the luckiest portion of the day is no plumbing
now this tree standing it was ridiculously hard i had
a hard time chainsawing through it
so i got another question for you guys
with this tree standing being dead for three years
is the tension going to be released something
that we have to deal with with all of our fresh logs
maybe the tension is gone out
of here hickory normally does have a lot of tension
now this log is looking promising one because it's hard but i can see
on the opposite side there's a lot of bug holes
and some rot over here which is probably what
killed the tree it's more rot than i saw me too okay
so you can see it right here on the end cut
it's almost spalted all this stuff here i don't know how high up
the tree goes but it looks like
we should still be able to get some premium lumber off
this so we're going to buck this up into some
manageable sizes roll it on up to the Woodland Mills HD7 Hydro
and see what we can get done
see what wood is going to come out of this okay
so we were lucky enough to get three 11 foot logs
out of that one tree and a six foot piece here
and you can see the base of this thing we are at 35
inches so we're gonna just be able to make it
on our 36 in sawmill as you can see you now you kind
of have a cross cut hey this is what i've got
to work with um and you can see right here that this
this wood was ridiculously hard for me
to cut i know it being hickory is already hard but this
is somewhat dry and i put a dry uh a moisture meter
on this and i found out here on all the
outside here everything was at 12
and we were at 42 still in the center but look at that i mean
do you think that we're gonna make a comment
do you think we're gonna get good wood out of that
it almost looks like it's i want to say rotted
but it's not this has already started to spalt
so almost half of this here i'm assuming i'm
not 100 sure that we're going to get a whole bunch
of spalted boards from end to end
so i decided we're going to put this one up on the sawmill
first before we cut into Big Bertha here she's a 22 inch wide one
and it's pretty straight so
So before I waste my time cutting in here,
let's find out what, let's bring it over to
the mill and let's find out what we actually got in there.
The best part for me is that I'm not cutting this for a project.
So as we put it up on the mill,
I'm going to be able to maybe change my mind.
Do I cut three inch slab?
Do I see something cool that I want to make a tabletop out of?
Do I cut three inch slab?
Do I cut one inch pieces?
My first impression, I was thinking I
was going to cut one-inch boards for T&G,
which I still might do, because spalted T&G, if this comes out good,
beautiful, beautiful stuff.
We did a lot of it on our wood floors,
so I'm hoping we get something good out of this.
But I think that if we had left this up for another year,
we might have just got to the point where we're still going
to get something good.
But we're not going to know until we saw into it.
okay so let's talk about how we
would set up our log to get the
most wood from it and uh it's not
as simple with this particular log
but we tried to center the pith of this log here and i'll show
you why because most of the most of the issues
that we're having right here is that we have a
double heart here so we're not exactly sure you know uh where
the center is now there is a slight
center check right here in the center
which is where i put the laser that's how i that's how i
determined for mine to be uh so that the pith is level
when we're doing this now would you you tell
me would you change the position of this log
or would you just leave it exactly how it is now i'm
using it and and for me the reason
that i got lucky we rolled this thing up here and the little
check mark that here is running kind of perpendicular
so for me either i would put it
just like this the way that it is or roll it completely 90 degrees
so when we're making our
cant we can work and get our boards off
but let me know if this is something that you would do
different or if you haven't thought about
that so real simple i think it's time for us to run
the blade on this oh boy it's secured it's ready
to go i just need to pick how high and since it's
spalted i might i might go right to the top
my friend you want to see what it looks like i do
want to see what it looks like i want
to see what it looks like now we're not going to just jump right
in and go hey this board's good this board's bad
this board's good we're going to see how much
usable lumber we get and how much time we spend
to get it are you showing a sneak peek jay you
show a sneak peek were you showing a sneak peek maybe
a little got a little interesting gadget
going on there i do and i'm not exactly sure yet
this is the first day first time we're cutting
anything with this i'm gonna bring
this to a solid number normally you know how i would do it jay
normally yep i would measure this down into one inch
which there i go i'm at seven so i really
don't need to change this but i'm going to start
by taking small boards off and then i'm actually
going to uh start cutting some some some small
one bites jay yep i'm anxious to see what we get
let's do this we didn't even warm
her up today it hasn't been running for months
for a
sec
there
we go
it cut
really
really
nice
did it
you
like
that
blade
already
i do
well
first cut and for a log like this a hickory log under
no circumstance would i just put on a
a regular blade, a re-sharp blade or anything.
We would normally cut our hickory or super hard wood
with a custom-made carbide blade that I get for all of you guys.
And I get special discounts from
my members. So if you're thinking about trying carbide blades
at the best price, I've tried them
all. And these are the ones we've been using for the last few years.
And this is what I would
normally normally cut my hickory with without even
a question i pulled it out because that's what it
was i
feel
it
getting
harder
it's a
good
sign
though
right
what's
up it's
actually
solid
dry
wood jay that's awesome i want
to say i got the blowers definitely
a little dip right there yeah
i can see that yeah quite a bit going
on right there there is but actually look at the bugs
are
coming
out
of it
right
now
this
is all
ants
um very
cool
all
right
he is
definitely
getting
his eviction notice let's just remind you
of brazil it reminds me of the amazon the same
they look the same they're not fried
though i'm not doing it so we've actually we're getting cut
out of the sapwood here
and you can see we're about getting into the center hardwood this stuff
is it is ridiculously dry and ridiculously hard
so with these carbide blades you can see we're
getting a flat or flatter smoother cut to our wood
so when we go to plane this stuff we don't have to
worry about dips and drabs we did get some pull off here we're going
to see if we're able to do
that but honestly we're getting some decent wood
that i'm going to continue cutting i'm not going
abort the mission and make firewood just yet what would you guys
do would you stop i mean me i like
this rustic look i like the bug holes i do like
when the caterpillars are no longer in the wood
all this is going to go in the kiln
so i'm not too worried about that i'm gonna give it a flip
jay and let's get
another side
off all right
so we've got all
of uh let's say
the wane off of
this and we've got ourselves a 12 by 12 cant
and actually on the width of this i made this 12 and
a half so after everything is dry
and if it does move we can straighten it out and i'm still going
to have 12 inch boards or 11
and a half inch boards i'm going to be really close but uh
honestly this wood is more solid than i thought
that it was and it feels and it feels like when
we're moving through it that it's completely dry
um me i love all of these bug holes oh yeah
uh we've only seen the caterpillar so i'm not exactly sure
so what do you think if we're gonna
actually have more bugs as we get into the center
of this because this can't right now is laid out
and i'm just gonna make one by one
or one inch stock out of it one by twelves but you can see
I rolled our cant back to where my crack here is vertical.
So I might lose one piece here.
I might drive down to here.
I might flip back over to it.
I'm not sure until I get there.
But that's going to give us the most boards that we have.
And I'm trying to figure out, are we going to lose this spalting?
Are we going to get to the center
and are we going to have standard hickory looking stuff?
Or are we actually going to be spalted all the way through?
I'm gonna say spalted. You think spalted? No, not all the way through.
But what do you guys think? Yeah, that's more important
I'm thinking we're gonna get some brown.
I really believe once we get down to the heart of this thing.
We're gonna get some brown
This is the center portion of the tree
So our large portion or big bertha over there
a little bit closer to the bottom looks like it has more rot
But so far if the rest of this comes out the way that it is coming out
We're gonna put him up there to see what happens
So I'm halfway cut
through this cant
with our one buys
and and you can see
without even me
Showing you I mean how flat how straight the cuts are now
I'm not gonna reveal the new toy that we're playing
with but every one of these cuts is
Perfectly accurate perfectly the same.
I know it's hard for me to show you here on a ruler
ruler but that's actually going to speed up our process
and we'll get a video out of what we're
playing with here I don't want to do anything until we test it
and make sure that it runs right
but in the beginning of this video I asked you I said
is it dead standing tree what do you think
is a dead standing tree have less tension than
a tree that you've just cut down and wanted to saw
you can see how everything is laying flat there
was a tiny bit of tension right here on this top
board so as far as hickory goes if you guys have cut
a lot of hickory tons of tension all the time
bowing pulling up as you're sawing you're actually
watching boards sometimes lift so so far this
dead standing one has been pretty good to us
and uh i think it looks beautiful i haven't seen the
middle let's see you guys want to show everybody what
the middle looks like let's see what we're
dealing with so we can decide if we're going
to continue this little hickory day and that's not
even the middle good there we go
that's where we're hearing you can actually hear the motor
slow down there's a pretty good size knot right there
but i told you we're getting into some of
of the browns no that's gorgeous
so we're actually losing you can see we're
losing the spalted we're losing there's it seems
to be no real bug activity in
the center of this log that is gonna
be hard hickory hard yeah I like to call
I'm going all the way
so yeah not much spalting left just a little around the
edge it's still beautiful
so it looks like the these
should be ambrosia powder
these should be powder
post beetles yeah i really believe all the black
that's what that should be, that's what these
little guys are, i think right, that's generally
that, yeah i'm not sure if that's a bug or just
a natural, just a natural crack
because we're in the center of the board, i don't know, it's pretty
good looking, it's really good looking, i can see some cabinets made out
of that, i can see some
cabinets made out of that, wall planking, flooring, i can see plenty
of cabinets made out of that
so so far with our dead standing oak wasn't firewood
at this point yet, this is only one log
we got three, the top which should have more tension
and the bottom which looks like it
has more rot, but we're gonna get
this stuff stacked onto our pallets, i'm gonna finish
cutting this and let's get up
big boy and see what the rot
looks like in that guy, so what i
could say is the first log was definitely
not a waste of time, it was the best of all three
but we still have a ton
of these spalted boards, we just need to edge and get set up
but we ended up with 11 12 inch boards, 12
by 10, 11 inches, 11 feet long, 12 inches wide
nice looking stuff, so we're gonna get Big Bertha
on over here, we're gonna see if uh she can produce
as many boards as they can because this so far has
not been a waste of time cutting an old dead log
so you're zeroed
yeah we should just
be able to cut now
all right so once you
get past here yeah
hit go to zero okay and then you'll take ah okay
that's right go to zero that's it all right well
this thing's
cutting
really nice
the blade
yeah yeah
all right
here we go
you did hear
us calling
termites down here what termites in the wood down
it's heavy i'm gonna here might have
to go right up oh nice okay i don't know if this little guy
will pick
all this
up one two
all right
notice
what tree
that is i
gotta
flip it
okay
short
work of that yeah
so after cutting
i'm calling
a big bertha we
just had a couple
of pieces right
here on the end that had termites into it
and this is the stack that we're going to have to edge but
look at the beautiful wood that came out
of that i all i can say is that i am super surprised of how
nice this wood is, did you guys let me know
when it comes, did you think that old rotten dead tree
was going to produce wood like this, i didn't actually think
so i thought it'd be more spalted
than this, a lot of this stack looks just like
that i didn't think we were going to get it this nice
i didn't think we were going to get it this nice either
that's a big stack too, it is a healthy
stack so we're going to actually finish cutting
the last one that we had which is the top and
we're gonna go up to this little piece
and then we'll show you what we actually salvaged out of
the one dead tree i'm gonna say quite a bit
but we'll see what everybody, so far it's quite a bit
for a
dead
tree
i'm
loving
it
well
there
you
have
it
this
hickory
has
been
dead
standing
for
about
three years and if you can see we got a beautiful stack
of hickory boards from here, not to mention
660 feet of beautiful boards so we did get some
spalted pieces but not rotted solid I wasn't sure
that we were going to be able to get solid wood out
of this and the amount that we actually got
there was a lot less I want to say there was a lot less rot
and there was a lot less bugs than
I thought I mean we did have a little bit
but not much so I guess the question that I've got
for all you guys is would you have cut this tree down
and would you have milled it and
more importantly what would you build with it
so let us know in the comments because
i think we proved that this dead hickory was definitely worth milling
and not firewood
Not firewood.