TMZ Live - 10/9/26

Welcome to TMZ Live. So we have received a number of text messages between Jane Doe in the Cornell case and two of the defendants, the two people with whom she started the evening in the frat house with a three-way. And I will say some of what you're going to see, you may have seen before, but I don't think you've seen the complete picture of how this is laid out. We have that, and we're going to show it. Right. So we're going to start on October 21st, two days after the alleged sexual assault, and she is texting with Jonathan Newell, one of those two guys in the initial threesome. So it starts with a text from Jane to Jonathan. Jane says to Jonathan, I'm not sure if you remember, but I did ketamine off your blank. genitals at some point and I honestly think that was one of the most insane slash Jaw-dropping moments of the night Jonathan responds. I'm just glad you're okay I was kind of upset with all the stories going around earlier But at the end of the day that's all they are and I have no memory of that last part referring to the ketamine off of his gender which is interesting because this is before any of the allegations surfaced and she brings it up and and is calling it insane and he's saying i have no recollection of this thing right uh and then she responds to him and says oh not the stories i don't even think i don't even think i want to know i know i'm socially a massive slut right now and i like can't bear to hear it because i'm really not so that's the exchange with jonathan now we should just say we should we're gonna get on We're going to give you more, but we should just say that what her lawyer is saying is that it's not uncommon for rape victims, he says, to not necessarily immediately process what actually happened and that that takes place over time. Yeah, well, we even heard that from her big and other people that she lived with that when she came home, she seemed like her sorority sisters and like she couldn't even comprehend what was happening. And they were both like, something happened to you. But she just kept saying she was fine. And remember, she's trying to reconcile things that happened in the night over the course of time. Initially, with Matthew Ingalls and Jonathan Newell, she has said that she had a consensual threesome. But subsequent to that, she has accused both of them of rape. And both of them were eventually expelled over these allegations. And that's true. I think what we don't know is what happened. we don't know whether she is a rape victim or whether this was consensual and regrets after the fact. And we just don't know. So what we want to do is present the full picture. And by the way, nobody can decide based even on what we're showing, because this is going to take investigation, cross-examination, all sorts of things. So this isn't saying she was raped or not raped. We're just laying out, here are the facts. But I will say, it was, I believe, Jonathan that also texted her, I'm so sorry what should have happened. We were messed up and we couldn't stop it because we were so messed up with having more people come into the room. It doesn't necessarily mean rape. I mean, stopping it could mean this got way out of hand. But they are saying something did happen that they should have been able to control but they couldn't. They're all regretting it. Yes. And remember, one more thing she has to reconcile this with what Jonathan texted to a Snapchat group, which was free pee in the alum room. When she learns of that, she's now putting Jonathan's, her interactions with Jonathan on text with that. Jonathan is the one who posted that message on the Snapchat. That is relevant to some of these other messages. We should just say Jonathan got expelled. Right, and Jonathan did get expelled because now we're going to go to some texts that she, between Jane and Matthew and Jonathan, and perhaps it has to do with that Snapchat message, he comes into this because she and Matthew are trying to figure out who's talking about what happened that night. She says to him, bro, everyone knows I'm incredibly stressed out. I will also say this is blanking, ruining my life temporarily. My reputation is destroyed and I'm utterly ashamed. And Matthew responds, stupid bitches like to yap. And the fact they're doing it shows that they're jealous of you for any number of reasons. And Jane responds, you're right. It'll get better. You think everyone's just jealous of us? But also, like, everyone needs to grow up because sexuality and sex and blank is changing. And stuff like this is going to become more common. I'm also really open-minded, though. So that was on October 23rd. So what it sounds like is they are working on damage control. um and that when you look at that last statement the statement feels like she's saying everybody relax this is not a big deal it'll blow over it's not a big deal what happened was not a big deal that she's saying hey this is just the way things go and she seems to be trying to rationalize that what happened is not a big deal and people shouldn't be talking about it but now and we believe this is a day later now so october 24th or maybe it's late on october 23rd her tone changes texting to matthew jane says jonathan definitely told people i heard something today and i know he told people uh matthew responds to her on october 25th i'll ask him though it was definitely one of the upperclassmen in the room who told someone else and it spread and then he asks jane who told you this if we can narrow down the girl we can narrow down suspects i know it wasn't jonathan trust me he would never so he's defending his friend i suspect that i suspect that she now knows about that snapchat message right yes it seems and her tone changes but i don't think she knew about all the snapchat because she was still uh like yes and then when i think that she found the whole screenshot of the snapchat that someone found and she saw what matthew wrote in the Snapchat, which is, you can come in and whip it out, seriously. And I think that that's when it turned everything. And she was like, you were supposed to be my friend. Because she also tells him in the text messages, I have a UTI. You don't just say that to, like, a random guy when you're, like, opening up about, like, what happened. She truly thought that Matthew was her friend and was, like, going to protect her and, like, help her and not do this. And I feel like it gets very cloudy. Matthew, in responding to her, is still trying to, at least saying, he's, look, whatever you need, if you need medicine, I'll be there for you. On November 7th, Now, his tone changes because he's clearly hearing things around campus. And he texts to Jane. Matthew says, my ex told me that I'm being labeled as an assaulter in the public eye. I was going to ask you, ask if you may have said something along those lines to someone, but I know you wouldn't. And she responds, people are changing the narrative because like in any sexual scenario, with one woman and many men, the woman was probably victim. I know there are rumors I was gangbanged. That's what James says to him. So now they're both on edge about things that people are saying. On November 8th, he texts her, are you free to call soon? And then she responds, I think I'm done talking to you. I know you lied. He's confused and says, what, can you call? And she says, no, never again. Now, we should explain. That is November 8th. That is about a week after this now infamous Halloween party where Matthew had invited her to go to the Halloween party at that same fraternity. And she was going to go, and then the fraternity president disinvited her, and there was a radical shift at that point. She said, you guys aren't my friends, and she's very, very angry at the president. Women always take the fall for these kind of things. Right. Yes. So, look, those are the texts. Now, you know, you could jump to various conclusions and you could go one way or the other based on the text. You could say, well, she's clearly saying she was down with it, that the social mores should be relaxed. People should relax. Who's the snitch? And the other way you can look at it is over time, she started processing this. And maybe that Snapchat rang a bell for her, turned on the light bulb. So you could look at it either way. And we're not here to say to you, look at it one way or the other. We're just laying it out. And there are a lot of people in the media that are saying definitively, this is what it means. And I don't think you can say that. I think you're right. I think this evening wasn't a monolith. It had consensual elements and it had elements that were more questionable, certainly. And I think as we see it evolve and her processing of it evolve, people should see it all in context. Because I think it's important to evaluate it that way. Hi, I'm Janae from Mississippi. My biggest concern with all of it is from her initial statement to now what she's claiming, obviously, are vastly different. And then, like you said, the biggest switch up was after the uninvite to the Halloween party. I never want to discredit a victim of any type of crime for sure. But what I do want to know is why the guys are being held to a different standard for their intoxication levels versus her intoxication levels. Well, I got to say, you really hit on something that we haven't talked about. But if this thing proceeds in criminal court, what you just said is going to become a huge issue in terms of both. Because you hear one of the guys saying, I don't even remember what you're talking about. So what you just hit on could become a central issue. Coming up. One of the stars of Pretty Little Liars left bloodied on the streets of West Hollywood. And there's video to show what happened to Keegan-Allen. I was just robbed of my watch. Be right back. One of the stars of Pretty Little Liars left bloodied on the streets of West Hollywood. And there's video to show what happened to Keegan-Allen. So, Keegan-Allen was outside a store in West Hollywood called Laurel Supplies. Right. I've never been. It's not the issue. I know. Actually, I heard a lot of people talking about it. Well, no, no, the only reason it's important- Is it a fancy grocery store? It's a fancy grocery store, and that's important. But he was leaving, he was in the parking lot outside of Laurel Supplies when two men approached him, and he says, in fact, the video supports this, they pistol-whipped him to take his watch, to rob him of his watch. A Rolex. And this is right after the assault. he's posting video but he also had the wherewithal to go i would presume to the store and get their surveillance which captured what happened i was just uh i was just robbed of my watch outside of Laurel Supply he called the police but these two dudes hit me in the head and pointed a gun at me with with a knife And then took off. I had masks on. Took my watch, though. Took my watch. So, I mean, doing that, filming himself doing it right afterward is just remarkable on so many levels to me that he did this. And I'm listening to him and I'm going, he should be, like, he probably has a concussion. He should go to the hospital. And you saw how that guy who had the pistol really hit him hard a couple of times. We know, and you hear him in the video, that he says someone called for police. We know police and paramedics came. He refused to be transported to the hospital, assuming they checked him out when they were there. But he refused to be transported. What's interesting is this is just such a nice part of West Hollywood. It's a busy area. There's a lot of people around. To me, it's a little shocking that no one else got videoed. but it's been happening. It's not shocking. This has been going on specifically with Rolexes for years now, and it's really been happening more in Beverly Hills. We've seen video of people, that exact thing happening outside of restaurants. Remember? What's the restaurant? It's on Beverly Drive. It's the outdoor Italian restaurant. El Pisteo. Yeah. El Pisteo. Right at El Pisteo. They stole somebody's... I have a friend who got basically the same thing that he got, which was pistol-whipped. They grabbed his Rolex, threw him to the ground. Rolexes are a thing, and people are looking for them, and they are targeting them, and they are doing things like that. I mean, that's why I'm saying the store matters, that you're looking for high-end places. They're going to a high-end place, waiting for someone to come out, and waiting to see if they've got something they want to rob. Hey, my name is Maddie Fulton, and I am currently a student at Georgia Southern in Statesboro. And what happened to Keegan-Allen was something very horrific and traumatizing. And when I opened the comments this morning on a TikTok talking about the situation, I was expecting comments like, I hope he's okay. But instead, I saw comments talking about, oh, this is something A did in regards to his character on Pretty Little Liars. And I feel as if that is something that is so deeply insensitive to say. I think it's disgusting. And I think, honestly, it just highlights a much larger issue that our generation faces. And I think that is just being completely desensitized to other people's trauma and traumatic events. Are people not able to separate? Apparently not. They're actors. They're actors and they live real lives. And people are really confusing the two. Yep. And that's just a phenomenon that we're seeing a lot nowadays. And when you look in cases like traumatic cases, especially in regards to what's going on right now with the Cornell 7, We have people in comment sections and making TikToks and YouTube videos and Instagram posts about Shonda Rhimes scandal characters allegedly saying that they could fix and solve the situation. And ultimately, I just feel like that is just very disheartening and disgusting. It's truly disgusting because in my eyes, I see that if you're somebody sitting there calling for like jokes about something so serious, you're in the same category as the people calling for her name to be exposed. jane doe and i think that it honestly it just highlights a much larger issue in society of us as a generation being so desensitized and just choosing to move along with issues and with keegan allen mentioning that west hollywood is quote getting so much worse i don't think that i agree in the same way that he means it i think i'm mainly saying that the reason it's getting so much worse is due to the neglect that we have and the way that we just brush past these events and stuff like that because, again, they become sort of fantastic. I gotta say, I don't think it's getting so much worse. I think it's been this way for a while. Okay, name that tune. Ba-dum-bum, bum-bum-bum, bum-bum. What, you gotta plug your old show? Yes, man, we all watch People's Court. Well, it's too bad to be... Wow, do you miss it? It's too bad, well, I miss it today because it's too bad we're not taping because if we did, we could get Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey as defendants in the show. Oh, I would love to see that. They are having a huge neighborhood dispute in the most unlikely of places. In Cleveland, Ohio, where Travis had purchased a beautiful lakefront mansion. And as part of that purchase, wants to put up a fence. Not shocking. Obviously, they want privacy, have security concerns. An aluminum fence. An aluminum fence. A black aluminum fence. with a sharp top. Sharp, pointy, you know, barbs on it. So that is not sitting well with the neighbors. And there was a whole, there was a community meeting to discuss this. It got pretty heated. Folks just think that these changes that they want to make there, it's not just about it's ugly or it's not right. They're concerned about wildlife. They're concerned about- We should say, the wildlife, they're separate things. The wildlife, they have deer there And they're afraid the deer will try to jump the fence. They'll get impaled. And they're also concerned about sewage. So there's a sewage line that's near the fence they want. And what they're afraid of is that Taylor and Travis were going to put trees up for privacy. And they were afraid that the roots of the trees could compromise the sewage line. So now you've got all these neighbors who are ordinary folks saying, these fancy schmancy celebrities are screwing up our neighborhood. Yeah. And so in these documents we obtained because this meeting that you guys are referring to, this happened about a month ago. It's been like an ongoing issue. And from the meeting, one of the women that is a neighbor of Taylor and Travis, she said, like, look, these are just, you know, these Hollywood people coming in and they might not even live here for that long. So they're basically saying, like, this is their home. They're going to have to drive by this house, see this tall gate fence thing. And, you know, they just don't want that gate there at all because of that sewage line you mentioned. They suggested to put that wall back so that it didn't interfere with that sewage line. But the residents are just saying, like, yeah, but now you guys want to put these trees. The roots could somehow affect that sewage line and cause a disaster. Look, there are areas of the city where these houses are out in the open. It sounds like this is a community where you're not hiding behind walls. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. But the reality is they do need that privacy because of who they are. And I'm guessing the neighbors are just thinking, this is kind of messing up the vibe of the community. And I really think that's at the base of this whole thing. Yeah, I'm sure that's part of it. So the fence has been approved. So the fence is going up. Um, I guess there, if there is still something to debate, it's where the fence is going to go. Where the fence is going to go, can they have the trees there, and also those barbed tops that you guys mentioned. The barbs are going to be there. Hi, my name is David Zibra, and I'm from Prague, Czech Republic. I actually think that the neighbors just want something to complain about, like, just classic arguments, and I guess it doesn't make sense. it's not a big deal and I guess and I understand that Taylor and Travis need some privacy because they are like literally everywhere all the time so I get it and I guess they really need some break from like public eye where are you from Czech Republic I'm from wow Prague Czech Republic yeah huh yeah but maybe I'm biased because I'm Swiftie so let's see god even in the Czech Republic we just low-key Swiftie low-key Swiftie coming up seems there's a disagreement growing in the Trump administration secretary of defense Pete Hegseth came out and said that the Fort Hood shooter not only are they going to have the execution in December but it will be streamed JD Vance is saying not so fast be right back TMZ's got every freaking thing big celebs big stories big events Donald Rollins took TMZ DC on a city tour. You know what the irony of this is? A black man takes a white person to the White House. It's TMZ. Seems there's a disagreement growing in the Trump administration. I'm sure I've heard that the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, came out and said that the Fort Hood shooter who was sentenced, got a death sentence. By firing squad. By firing squad, Hegseth said that not only are they going to have the execution in December, but it will be streamed, that they're going to live stream this firing squad killing the shooter. I'm going to shut up for now. J.D. Vance is saying not so fast. You have talked a lot about your Christian faith in recent days. reason. How does that mesh with the Pentagon's announcement that they wish to live stream the firing squad execution of the Fort Hood shooter? Well, first of all, I've seen those announcements. I don't know that that's actually going to happen. Let's sort of see what, I think it's going to happen in December when he's executed. But what I try to remind people is, look, this is a guy who committed, in my view, the worst terrorist attack on American soil outside of 9-11. The people that he was meant to treat, the army soldiers that he was meant to treat, for mental illness and other problems, he took them at their most vulnerable and gunned down these people where they live. So whatever the controversy is about the method of the execution, I hope that people don't forget that this is a guy who brutally murdered a lot of innocent people. Now that said, I mean, look, if it's ultimately live streamed, I'm not going to be watching it. I got to say something. I want to say something. This G.I. Joe is our defense secretary. this is abhorrent that he is doing this that we have so much violence in this country and the idea that you would allow children and others because they are going to watch online to watch somebody be shot to death to watch their head explode to what and and by the way i'm not talking about the death penalty the death penalty was um it was sanctioned by a judge and you do what you do But the idea of saying, and we're going to live stream it, this machismo. Don't watch, man. That's disgusting. I don't put it online. You question people and laughing at your service and to call him that G.I. Joe, whatever you did. He's a G.I. Joe. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that. He's a G.I. Joe macho crazy guy. That is so disrespectful to his service. And the fact that you can muster up a single you-know-what to care about. No, no, no. What we're talking about. That's outrage. Mike, I don't. First of all. He is acting as a defense. Don't watch it then, Harvey. Don't watch it. Mike, you're doing exactly what kids. Are you kidding me? Do you know how many? There's pornographic movies out there. Kids, don't watch it, Harvey. This is real. You guys are making this about. You've got to be kidding me. This is not about. Oh, my God. You've gone too far now. This is not about sympathy for the convicted shooter. No, I'm not going to watch it. When they announced that he got the death penalty, nobody said anything. There wasn't outrage over him getting the death penalty. The outrage, and you heard J.D. Vance try to shift around the question. The question was about live streaming it. And he said, no one should have sympathy for this guy. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about, we're talking about, we are talking about, no, I'm talking about Jamie Vance. I'm talking about, I'm saying that to make this, it's not about sympathy for the killer. It's about what are we as a country, if we are now going to start live streaming execution. I'm all for that. If you go to an army base and you're going to gun down 13 people. Why didn't we live stream Chris on Mike? Get it into my veins. if we're that country i love it i want to do that you die i want to ask you one question why didn't we last see krista do you think video i would be down do you think video games so i don't care about that do you think video games have in any way contributed to gun violence yes if video games contribute to gun violence what do you think is going to happen when people see the real well maybe it has a chilling effect on people who try to enact terrorism that's going to happen maybe it's never happened before every time people see it in the movies they see it in video games it goes up you think the real thing it's going to go down i i do i do hey guys how you doing my name is lucas i'm from upstate new york in the adirondacks um and you know listening in i think the guy 100 deserves it um i think you know if you are going to gun down these people and then you're going to turn around and add more salt to the wound and say that you know you're defending taliban leaders and try to justify it. I think you absolutely should be gunned down, executed. I think people should be able to come and see it. I agree, though. I don't think it should be live-streamed because I think that's being used as a way for people at a different angle to make money and to profit off of it and then use the whole, well, he deserves it anyway excuse to live-stream it because, again, there are kids that can watch it. If people want to go and see it in public, then that's up to the parents if they're going to bring their kids. You know, that's on the parent. Well, they don't do it that way, But they would allow victims' families to show up, which they customarily do. I just know decades ago when we started seeing those ISIS videos of beheadings, right? And what we thought, oh, those people are absolute monsters. And they are. And they were. So are we okay with becoming monsters ourselves? That's what I'm talking about, is the live streaming of this just seems like a step too far. Right. Coming up, we have received a plethora of text messages, information from the Cornell disciplinary panel, and we have identified what could be the core issue in deciding whether criminal charges are going to be brought in this Cornell case. Be right back. We have received a plethora of text messages, information from the Cornell disciplinary panel, and i think we have identified what could be the core issue in deciding whether criminal charges are going to be brought in this Cornell case and it has to do with one word and the word is consent now charles and i that may seem obvious but there's a reason that we're talking about that because it seems that different people involved in this case are defining that word differently Absolutely. Now, we broke a story today that Jonathan Newell, one of the defendants in the civil case, was expelled from Cornell because he engaged in sex with Jane Doe without her consent. But we have looked, we have spoken with somebody who has reviewed the disciplinary panel's decision. And what it says is that he did not get affirmative consent. That means essentially a yes, that there is a discussion. That at no point she never said yes. That she never said yes or conveyed yes in some clear fashion. In New York State? No, no, no. Oh. At Cornell University, in Title IX, the way they define consent is that you actually have to get that kind of affirmative approval. That silence is not enough. That you need that kind of affirmative approval. and as a result of that they said Jonathan Newell did not get her consent at some point when they were engaged in sex right so that is the Title IX and we know by the way there were multiple times that they were that during that incident that they engaged in sex that's right so now the question okay that's what Title IX says that's what Cornell said now how does that relate to a criminal prosecution because this is what this all started with where the DA decided not to pursue it right i think it gets back to this word consent but not the Title IX version of consent the New York State law version is that's what the DA would have to would process would have to charge someone under is under New York state law why didn't he charge any of the men involved with rape. In New York state, it is not enough to say there's a lack of consent because of silence. And that is the difference between the Cornell disciplinary hearing and a New York criminal case. So because to the general public, you will hear that Cornell expelled Jonathan Newell because he had sex with her without consent. And you may go, well, that's rape. And if Cornell found that it was rape, why didn't the DA charge him with rape? That's right. But the difference is that if she was silent and never said yes or no, that could be a violation of the Cornell rule under Title IX. But it is not in itself a violation of New York state criminal law because New York law requires that there be some clear expression the of no no the word no right and in order for that to happen so Cornell never found that they never or the DA never found that well Cornell never said but can you find lack of consent that was given to him to have sex with her and that's all like you really need to press the charges you just need lack to prove consent. And I do want to point out that part of her allegation is that when Matthew Ingalls stopped having sex with her during the initial consensual threesome. Matthew Ingalls is another person. Matthew Ingalls was the initial threesome with Jonathan Newell. When he tapped out, he took a nap at some point. But she says, hold on, hold on. She says that Jonathan Newell then started groping at her vagina and she indicated by pushing his hand away a lack of consent to that contact. She says another man then entered the room and the two of them, Jonathan Newell and the other man, Helio Lopez, then had non-consensual sex with her. That's her allegation. I can say, because I've looked at New York law, that would be forcible and forcible is enough to prove rape in New York state. So if those allegations prove to be true, if they are provable, then you could say that it fits the New York criminal law because it's forcible but in terms of consent that doesn't that what what the Cornell University found you know we got a um a text from Jane Doe's lawyer and Jane Doe's lawyer said that they found there was no consent what they found actually was there was no affirmative consent um no expression of no and he went on to say that is the definition of rape it's not the definition that in itself is not the definition of rape in New York State. Yes. If there's proof that it's forcible, then it is. But Jonathan said the entire time that he didn't get consent, that he just thought that Matthew got it for the very first time and he was like, since Matthew got it, like, I didn't get it, I just thought, like, I got it through a third party. He thought it was maybe a carryover of the initial encounter which was consensual. He said that the entire time for the initial encounter. Yeah. I mean, look. It's very, very complicated. It is. All we're saying is, you know, now that we've gotten all these texts and we've seen the stuff from the disciplinary committee, like that word is going to be critical in a DA or a grand jury's decision on whether to prosecute these guys. And I'm not saying which way they're going to go because I don't know. And she made an allegation in her lawsuit. And if that allegation is true, it would seem to be enough to prove forcible. I will say this when they go before a grand jury, as we've said, that it is very easy to get an indictment for a prosecutor because except the prosecutor they're looking for now may have some issues that's right yes well my whole thing is don't you think it's weird the DA that they got expelled the university found that there was like stuff that was wrong that there was no consent so they expelled them don't you think it's that the DA is like a little bit weird that they didn't investigate a little bit these are different yeah that is true it seems a bit cursory and that's why we're reopening here i guess what i'm saying is if you go before a grand jury and you present the fact that or you present the allegation that Jane pushed his hand away multiple times. That is, before a grand jury, that sounds like a no. It sounds like an expression of a no. Through a physical gesture. Which would be enough. Enough to indict. Also, if a jury believes that, that may be enough to convict. I'm not getting to the conviction part, I'm just getting to whether or not the jury will let her on. Let's now back up from the grand jury about who is going to present the case to the grand jury, because Letitia James, the New York attorney general who has been appointed special prosecutor by the governor of New York, she's gotten some serious heat by lawyers in this case. Yes, lawyers. Now a second lawyer has come forward representing Winston Lee. Another one of the accused frat brothers is Tenny Garagos, and she has filed documents with some serious concerns saying that Letitia James should be removed from this case and and the reason is she's of the statements she's made where she said that we stand with jane doe called it horrific what she went through was horrific she's very much citing in these statements citing with jane doe and these statements were made before she was appointed special prosecutor subsequent to being appointed she said all the right things about conducting an honest and unbiased investigation but it's hard to unring that bell when you've made comments on Twitter to the kind of already have that so so Tenny Gargas is saying number one, poll grand jurors to see if they heard this because this could pollute the grand jury pool. Number two, she is taking a shot at Kathy Hochul saying that this was political because her opponent, and this election is now looming, has been saying she's soft on crime. And so she was doing this to gain some political chips, which we don't know what the judge is going to say, whether the judge actually issues an order either affirming that it's okay for Letitia James to serve or not. Yeah. We already know that there is a hearing scheduled for, what, October 27th, 29th, where in Albany, because there was another attorney that had, Andrew Wiltenberg, had filed something very similar. On October 29th, he's going to get to present his case why Letitia James should be removed. I will say it's hard to tell an executive have had to conduct an investigation, although the circumstances here are very clear because the comments were on Twitter. It does look like she has prejudged this issue. It would be cleaner, certainly, to have another special prosecutor. They both went out of their way to say it. Why didn't she do that? It's an unforced error because they both went out of their way to say it. Why didn't they just do it? We don't want to stop the investigation. We just want a new special prosecutor who's unbiased. They could have picked 100 different people. That hasn't said anything about it. That hasn't said anything about it. Why her? Hi, my name is Beth. I'm from Charlotte, North Carolina. I came on to talk about Jane Doe's text messages. And I think when I read your article, I see a woman trying to make sense of what happened to her. And there is no sense to be made of a sexual assault. I was raped a week before my senior prom. And I still went to prom with the boy who raped me because I didn't see another way out. I was trying to bargain with what happened to me. and going to prom with him wasn't about that he had consent for what he had done to me after abuse there is shock and numbness trauma and jane was probably feeling all of those things during those text messages in the end she realizes who matthew is and what they have done and she says i'm done talking to you i know you lied she is brave and i think so many women stand with her because we've been her. We are Jane Doe. Thanks. Coming up, it's a party on wheels. And this week, Landon Romano is going to be doing the deed. I'm ready. How you doing? Sold out so fast. I'm so excited. I wish the bus was bigger. We're going to have to invest in some big ass bus. Do we need bigger buses? We'll get you a Greyhound. Be right back. Every week we tell you about, it's really the best party in town. It is the best party in town. TMZ after dark tour. It is the best. And And this week, it is going to be hosted. We have fun guests who come in every week to lead the fun, take you around Hollywood. It's a party on wheels. And this week, Landon Romano is going to be doing the deed. Hey, I'm ready. I'm good. How are y'all doing? We're good. Good to see y'all. So we know you are a big, big deal on social media. You got like five million followers. And we hear that you've got a lot of people hyped up for the tour tonight. Well, it sold out so fast. I'm so excited. I wish the bus was bigger. We're going to have to invest in some big-ass buses. Do we need bigger buses? We'll get you a Greyhound. Okay. Sounds good. Can we cut the roof off of that? Okay, here's the big thing. Uh-huh. Are you going to jump on the bull at the Saddle Ranch? Absolutely. Listen, I live in Nashville. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. That's my thing. I'm always on the damn bull. No, that's true. Thank you very much. You're in Nashville, really? Yeah. Uh-huh. I used to live here, but I've been in Nashville five years now. So, yeah, I'm always down for a bull. Okay. I hate to ask this. Which is better? Ooh. You can be our Nashville. Be honest. I'm a Southern boy. I'm from Louisiana, so I have to say Nashville. So you grew up in Louisiana, you came out to L.A., and then you moved back to Nashville. Exactly. All right. I love it. But I do miss L.A. L.A. is a good time. It's a party, and we're definitely going to party tonight. You're going to go through Hollywood, West Hollywood. You just barely hit Beverly Hills and then back to Los Angeles. Period. So you're going to see the best part of L.A. Oh, hell yeah. I'm ready to cut up. And there'll be some shots along the way, also. Oh, yeah, no, no, a lot. Several, several. Three shots along the way for people. Three shots. It is a great party if you're ever in L.A. You got to check it out. Have a great time tonight, Landon. Looking forward, I can't wait to see the video. Really appreciate you coming by. Of course, nice to meet y'all. Nice to meet you. Thanks, man. Y'all. Coming up. So Ben Affleck is letting us in on what he does in his free time. He plays video games, right? Which is not uncommon. This part, I would hope, is uncommon. This is what he said on New Heights about running into younger players of these video games. I don't suck, I'm a grown man. Be right back. So Ben Affleck is letting us in on what he does in his free time. In between making movies, commercials, coming up with ideas for Dunkin. Marrying. He's getting married, getting divorced. He plays video games, right? Which is not uncommon. And this part, I would hope, is uncommon. This is what he said on New Heights about running into younger players of these video games. I play, like, first-person shooter games. So I think I'm good. You know, I'm even trying to f*** around and get on. And then, like, 12-year-olds just f*** you up. You know what I mean? I try to come out, and I'm like, here I come. Bah, bah, bah, bah. Like, I get killed right away. And then they taunt you. Like, you suck. F*** you. I end up getting in an argument. F*** you. I don't suck. I'm a grown man. I think I've seen some videos online, like YouTube videos where adults are like, is this really happening? It's weird that I didn't take him as a gamer, but it is very relatable. I don't play video games for that exact reason because these kids are so good and they're so annoying on the mic and it just ends up pissing you off. So that's a very relatable. Is it because of his kids? No, he's saying he's playing first-person shooter games. I mean, he might have started playing with his kids, and that he enjoyed them. Because he's so into it. Oh, he's definitely into it. Hold on. There are adults who play video games, Harv. It doesn't have to be because of his kids. But he reverts to 14 when he talks about it. Well, have you heard these kids on the mic? They're ruthless. I've seen some of the videos online, and I just go like, I could not. No way. Hey, guys. It is Jamie in Chicago, and I just have to say, now that I know that Ben Affleck is gaming, maybe I'll learn to game so he can yell at me, because that sounds kind of hot. Oh. You know, oh, turn the video gaming into a dating... So maybe this is his play. I get it. No, it's not his play. I don't know. Maybe it's his play. Coming up... Mariah Carey's doing a little vacationing over in Italy, but she's doing something that you don't normally see people do. She went to go see the Da Vinci's Last Supper. Why is that not normal to see? Well, I don't think people, like, sort of strike a pose in front of it. Be right back. Well, Mariah Carey's doing a little vacationing over in Italy. Milan. In Milan. Milano. Come on, man. You gotta work on your Italian. But she's doing something that you don't normally see people do. She went to go see the Da Vinci's Last Supper. Why is that not normal to see? Well, I don't think people, like, sort of strike a pose in front of it. Oh, I think you're so wrong. You think people do? Oh, I think half the people do. Really? Literally half the people do. I mean, as Mariah, you know, striking a pose goes, it's not that dramatic. You know what? It is true. No, go back to her for a second. It's the last supper. Hold on. It's the last supper meets the Mona Lisa. She's striking that pose. That's not the Mona Lisa. Look, go back to Mariah. That is not Mona Lisa. Look at her face. It is not. She's striking the pose. But I will say this about the look on her face. And anytime you're in front of something like The Last Supper, you have to decide. Are you going to smile? How do you pose in front of The Last Supper? She's doing the Mona Lisa. Anything you do just seems... She's doing the Mona Lisa. You're not seeing it. That's not the Mona Lisa. It is so. It's not. It's not. Have you not seen the Mona Lisa? I've seen the Mona Lisa and I've seen The Last Supper. I've seen Mariah Carey. I have not. Have a good weekend.