Detroit Talk City | Third-party politicians

All right, thanks for joining us on this Wednesday, October 7th already. I'm your host, Charlie Langton. All right, welcome to Detroit Talk City. Let's get right into today's topics. We've got Danielle Carmanos. She's going to break down high-tech innovation, solving real-world operational problems right here in our community. Maybe there's a few challenges. We'll take a look at that in just a bit. Then there's Anthony Hudson will join us, libertarian candidate for governor. he's going to join us to discuss why third parties matter in politics and why he should have been at that debate last night he wasn't but he'll tell us why he wants to be all right that brings us to our poll question a question of the day we want you to know is the city of detroit a good investment where's that qr code where's that scan tell me it's right around there it's always right there Put it up there, Kenny. All right, there we go. Well, that's close enough. We'll put it on there. You can scan that QR code right at the bottom of the screen when we get it, and we'll show you the results a little bit later on in the show. And as you know, the show's all about you. We want to have a little conversation. So here's how you can do it. You can text us. You can call us. The number is 313-765-8844. You can also jump into our Zoom room. The meeting ID number is 892-4909-0290. And, of course, on social media, just hashtag us at Detroit Talk City. All right. I am looking forward to our next guest, Danielle Carmanos. Good to see you. Hi, Charlie. How is everything going in your world? Everything's great. Busy. Everyone's busy, right? No, but it's good things. So we have to say we talked about Peter Carmanos. Peter Carmanos, your husband. Yes. Yes, Jess, we've been married a long time. A long time. Yes. Under the weather, I understand. Yes. Is that right? It's just the time of year. We have four sons, school, sports, all the things. He's chicken. He's chicken. I mean, yeah. I mean, listen, it's you, Charlie. He said, listen, let's throw her into battle today. No, no, no. And I said, you know, why not? He does so much stuff. All right, you just became the CEO of something called Mad Dog, what's the name of it? Mad Dog? Mad Dog Technology. Yeah, yeah. All right, so just roughly, it's all high-tech stuff, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, it's, you know, it's, I think, well, it's a couple of things. First of all, you know, we know Pete, right? Like, Pete's a serial entrepreneur, and, you know, he leaves one thing, he starts another thing. He's brilliant. He's a big-picture guy. I mean, he's my husband, too. So don't tell him I said he's brilliant, because, you know, at home, it's like, oh, my gosh, you let him. He does come up with some weird ideas, even if he's watching television. Constantly, yeah. He's out there. Yeah, yeah. Now, listen. He's out there, but he just thinks at a different level, you know. Yeah. So people who don't know Peter Carmenos, I mean, he brought CompuWear downtown. uh sold it yeah he's had professional hockey teams he's had a whole bunch of businesses yeah uh first wife Barbara Ann Carmenos Cancer Institute right very prestigious name all kinds of things yeah yeah but is it does he think differently than other people though yeah yeah yeah i mean sometimes i wonder how he knows how to tie his shoes because like sometimes he's just operating at such a big level i you know he's not feeling great today but i was in a meeting with him before I came down here and we're heading into this meeting and I think everything is all squared away. And he's just random and he's he's eating and he's yelling out questions and putting people on the spot. And he does what he does. Is politics a big deal in your world? We talk about politics a lot in our house. You know, we have twin sons who are seniors. We have a freshman and a sophomore. So, you know, it's very topical. We're invested in the world. We want to know what's happening. But I'm not you know, I ran for Wayne State Board of Governors. I ran a campaign statewide. I was on Wayne State Board of Governors. I actually I lost the first time you pulled up my boots, got back out there. Second time I won with more votes. You like you like. I don't know. I don't love it. I think, you know, we all have a gift. Pete is more more likely to discuss politics. He loves discussing politics. I love just getting out into the community and serving and helping people. and that's kind of your business is technology all this ai right stuff yeah and and ai is like one of the big it's very controversial it sure is yeah so is do you think ai they're putting moratorium on these ais are ai centers good uh well the data centers i mean the data centers right now i mean they they first of all they need some pr help right they need a lot of it yeah you know and listen i think from my lens not to be political i think everything is always worse before an election. Right. So I think there's always going to be a little bit of a fear factor around anything that is super relevant in that moment. But AI is here to stay, though, right? One hundred percent. And you need a data center to have AI, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You need it, right? And in your business, if AI was gone today, would you guys be done? Well, for us, for what we do. So we have Mad Dog. Mad Dog Technology is the parent company. Right. And one of our kind of our star investment right now is resolute building intelligence right and so we go into a building to me i sometimes maybe pete wouldn't describe it this way i describe it almost like an mri for your building right we go in and we connect to the systems that you already have and within two days we identify all of the energy and cost inefficiencies which is typically about 30 percent right so we're in major health care systems we're in chicago public schools we're at mclaren Trinity. There's inefficiency in this building right here? I think there's inefficiency. I think Fox 2 is wonderful. I think there's inefficiency in every building. But inefficiency means, are we talking about like data? There could be, you know, there was a university and we found one of the classrooms was, it had a carbon monoxide leak and we were able to identify it and it could be fixed before it did any damage. We find, you know, heating, you know, the HVAC system, if there's waste. You know, we've all been in buildings where one room is 90 degrees and the next room is 50 degrees. I mean, it's Michigan, right? We identify those inefficiencies. We present the data, and they can have them fixed, right? So that's why I say it's like an MRI, right? Like, I think there are three kinds of people. The people who like the information, the people who like it, don't do anything, and those who don't want it at all. I think the best CEOs and CFOs, you know, the bottom line is the bottom line. They want those inefficiencies identified in their commercial buildings so they can fix them. So, I mean, they're saving 30%. We also check utility bills. I mean, it's probably a shocker to know that most utility bills are wrong and people are being overcharged. Right? I know. Shocking. So we can check all those. What about the city of Detroit? Yeah. Focus a little bit on Detroit. Do you get into Detroit a lot? Yeah, I'm from Detroit. So, you know, I love Detroit. I grew up in Dearborn. Pete's from Detroit. So I grew up in East Dearborn and Detroit. My dad had a pizzeria on the west side. You know, I worked there when I was 13, 14. You know, by like Bishop Orgis. Yeah. Yeah, I know that. Yeah, yeah. So, and I grew up, you know, my mom, and my mom has a Ph.D. from Wayne State. So does my brother. So she was going to school when I was growing up. So I was just always on the Wayne State campus. I went there. Pete went there. So, yeah, Detroit's just in my bones. Is Detroit a good investment, do you think? I mean, I hope so. You know, people are always surprised that I've never lived anywhere else. Pete hasn't. But this is our home. This is where we invest. We're, you know, through the Cancer Institute, we're in, you know, the Center for Natural Childbirth, where the Cuddlers, we're investing in the community because this is what we love. This is our home. Do you like what's going on right now? I mean, something like the Big One Sun Project? Oh, I mean, you know, we'll see. You know, it's funny, because if you're a native Detroiter, you know, as we both are, you know that we've been through these iterations where people say, Detroit's making a comeback. Well, okay, calm down. Maybe we're there. Maybe we're gritty, we're tough. Maybe this is just who we're meant to be. But you don't have a business in Detroit, though, do you? No, no, no, no. But look at that. We're filming pictures of the Renssen here. But we know they're going to tear down two of the buildings in the Renssen. We've had tons of shows on this stuff. We've got the CEO of Bedrock over here. We've got all this stuff here. but it seems to be so polarizing you're you you are in detroit you invest in the area do you think this is is there another pr issue here or is this good for detroit or sell it if it's good or not if it's not would you would you want to invest in this building i i mean probably not i listen i might be biased i love i still call it the comptroller building i think it's the best building in detroit right i mean if you're not the comptroller building maybe it's time for a glow up i don't know would you want to buy another building in detroit I'd buy a building in Detroit, yeah. Put Mad Dog over there in Detroit? For sure, yeah. Where would you buy it? Oh, gosh, I mean, well, I mean, downtown's fantastic, right? I mean, we've looked periodically. I mean, we're downtown a lot. Would you buy the Rensselaer? No. I mean, oh, my gosh. Listen, I have twins. I've got to get into college. Why am I going to overhaul the Rensselaer? I think you're doing it. The kids will be all right. The kids will be all right. They need a job when they get out. Listen, if somebody decides to buy the Rensselaer and they need energy efficiency, I am their person. I will save them 30%. We will go in. We will commission. Do you like that? There's a couple of changes, but you sold the copperware building. Another company bought it. Eventually, Dan Gilbert bought it. Yeah. So he's there now. Yeah, Dan's great. Is Dan Gilbert doing a good job? Oh, Dan's fantastic. Yeah, I love Dan, his entire family. Yeah, he's a great guy. He loves Pete. Pete loves him. Yeah, they go back a long way. they, you know, before Dan was even in Detroit, I think at one point he was even thinking about building somewhere else. And Pete being Pete said, I'm going to pick you up. We're driving downtown. You're moving to Detroit. And Dan would tell the story. And Dan said, OK, because when Pete tells you, you're going to do so. I mean, that's how he got me to marry him. He was actually Pete Karmanos was in Detroit before Dan Gilbert. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He tells that story a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, yeah, like you said, he's from Detroit. You know, he you know, his tale where he started Compuware with two partners and they pulled their money and they had $3,000 in tax returns, young family at home. I mean, can you imagine? And invested in starting what would become Compuware. Yeah. Hold that thought. More Danielle Karmanos. How about this? All right. This is part of the show. We want to hear from you. Is technology being used for good things? City of Detroit, lots to talk about here. Text us, call us 313-765-8844. We'll read them live on the air. Detroit Talk City, back after the break. This is good. Welcome back to Detroit Talk City. Can tech create real change? Well, this person knows right here. I'm your host, Charlie Langton. We want to hear from you. Text us, call us, 313-765-8844. You can also join us in the Zoom room. Our meeting ID number is 892-4909-0290. Danielle Karmanos is here, the CEO of Mad Dog Technology um let's uh let's get a text okay yeah let's do it come on let's do that here we go as CEO of Mad Dog Technology in a traditionally male dominated sector what advice do you have for women trying to break into the tech leadership and venture building in Michigan good yeah great question it actually i mean gives me goosebumps just to read it because I know so many women are navigating this. The biggest thing, of course, is always preparation. You know, you have to do a little bit more all the time. Be more prepared. Be extra early. You know, ask great questions or aspire to ask great questions, right? I'll be totally honest. I have gone into really tough meetings. I am generally the only female at the table. Sometimes I watch a TV show called Lioness, where the lead character is a female CIA operative, and she is very tough, very intense and sometimes i'll watch that and get myself all pumped it up um is it because of the tech world i think so i think so and there can be um at times some mansplaining right and you just kind of have to take a deep breath i know that i don't know everything i mean but i have really really smart people around me and um sometimes you just have to play i hate to say a strong long game and just keep showing up and not backing down because eventually you earn respect and then it all feels really good but it's hard it's harder for women to break into this industry for sure i mean listen women we we think differently we we feel differently we're going to see things differently and you know a different perspective is hard right so it's going to take a little bit longer to to earn your spot at the table but don't give up stay in there um yeah daniel come on let's take another text right here as someone deeply involved in detroit's arts education where do you think local philanthropy can make the biggest difference over the next five years another good question yeah that's a great question um you know i think for me having done this for so long um you know even before i was married to pete giving back you know, for me, I tithe, that's just how I believe and from my first paycheck when I was 13, I've done that I've always, I also believe in tithing my time so I at times I've had to learn maybe the hard way to always give where you feel connected right this can sound a little bit cold, I've never had someone ask me for support around a bad cause, right? They're all good, they're all compelling so I would say invest your time, your resources into areas that are important to you where you feel like you can make a difference where making a difference is important to you. Do you get pitched a lot of ideas, uh, people ask you for money, Danielle that's what I'm asking, I mean a lot of calls, you know, I guess a good development officer wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't, right? But yes, I think it took me a while, I was just having this conversation with one of my sons who, uh, is young, he's he is a great conversationalist, he's just a great person and he was asked to fundraise and uh I know and I said, let's, let's practice the art of saying no right, so ultimately he said no and I said, listen, I just want you and he does a lot of activities, I said I don't want you looking at people as a number, right? I want you to keep building on a foundation of making a difference in different ways. Let's take another text over here, uh, Danielle Carmelino, you wear so many hats: tech executive, philanthropist, can't even say it, author, mom what does a non-work day in Detroit look like for a billionaire? Well, I, I put on my sweatpants and I think about how to become a billionaire um no, let's see, I, I have great girlfriends, I, you might get together with my girlfriends and you know we'll walk and talk and just figure out all of life um you know because we're i have four sons and and you know i wherever i am i am i will give a hundred percent to wherever I am in that space. So at times when I'm off, I just need to kind of be completely disconnected and just be quiet and recharge. Does it happen at least once a week? I try. I try. Hold that thought. All right. Danielle Carbanos is with us. We want to know what you're thinking. Let us know. Detroit Talk City will return after the break. Welcome back to Detroit Talk City. I'm your host, Charlie Light. And we're talking about a lot of things, but can technology create a positive impact in your life? How about investing in Detroit? All kinds of things. Text us, call us, 313-765-8844. Join us in the Zoom room as well, 892-490-90290. Danielle Carmanos is with us. Let's take a phone call, all right? Let's go to the phones. Gerardo from Detroit. You're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Gerardo. Hello. Hello. Well, basically, kind of like answering your own question of how is technology and what do people think of it? There's not a bunch of protesters outside your studio protesting Ms. Danielle right now. I mean, from the answers and responses she's getting, it's very positive. Plus, people complain and say, you know, they want jobs, they want jobs. Well, technology is another form of job. Plus, one thing I have to say, if people are really, really, really desperate, really dangerously, you know, technology is going to destroy us, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Terminators, and whatever, then become Amish. Give up your cell phone. Give up your computer. Give up your TV. Give up your trash disposal, trash compactors. Right. Give up your electric cars. Go be Amish. I mean, if you're really that serious, you know, that's it. Yeah. Yeah, Joy, but what do you think about it? People are, many people are nervous about data centers, AI. Are they? Do you find that? I'm not, I'm not afraid of AI. I think it's inevitable, right? I think there need to be, you know, safety measures in place, of course, as there should be with anything. You know, like I said earlier, I think, you know, over especially the next month or two, everything is going to seem a little bit worse because we're around an election cycle, right? And things just get kind of exacerbated. I do think there will be safety measures in place. I think we're going to find the most efficient ways to use AI. You know, I know for us at Resolute, we just launched, you know, an upgrade and we're using AI tools, We're not replacing anyone. We're using these AI tools to support our engineers to be even more efficient. We have great technology. Do you worry, though, if these data centers can put a moratorium on the data centers, that you're not going to have the AI that you need? Or big companies are not going to have the AI that they need to succeed? You know, it's still new. We're still evolving, right? We're in the Wild West. I shouldn't say the Wild West because that does sound ominous. I think we're still sorting it out. I think we're still sorting out the best practices, right, and the best AI tools. It's an evolving technology, but it's inevitable. Let's take a text. Yeah. Here we go. As the owner of a tech company, Mad Dog Technology, do you believe that these data centers will benefit the community at all? Truly. And how do you know? How so? Yeah, that's a big question. I think there is an idealistic part of me that wants to believe that they will be investing in the community. I think there are more opportunities to learn. I think there's more research that needs to be done. I think everything I do personally is going to have a humanitarian component to it. I think there needs to be more energy invested in how they're benefiting the community. do you think politics do you think the government should take a role and put up some guardrails as they say or do you want the government stay out of our business come on daddy at the beginning of this you asked me if i like talking politics i said i've been down that road like an official i'm i no longer an elected official listen you don't want the government you don't want the government at all i'm just a hockey mom i you know listen you want somebody yell at a ref i'm your person you know you don't still own the hockey team do you no no no no the wings would you want to buy the wings no uh let's get one more uh we have another time for a text over here uh you opened danielle's clubhouse in birmingham uh any good any thought to doing something similar in Detroit for women in the city, oh I mean I would love to, yeah the clubhouse is so exciting can I tell you about it? Really, yeah, because I love it so much. 20 seconds, okay so we have the space in Birmingham, wanted to be purposeful and the best purpose was to create a place for community and connectiveness for women and we've been doing lecture series and mahjong lessons. We had 60 physicians there last night learning best practices for women's wellness for treating women who are cancer survivors. So yes, I would love to do a satellite or have a second space in Detroit. Absolutely. Danielle Carvalhos, good talking to you. That was fun. Tell Peter I said hello. Of course, of course. Alright, really appreciate it. Good luck. All right, coming up this next half hour, are you feeling left out when it comes to party politics? It's usually Republicans or Democrats. What about the third party candidates? Who needs them? Well, we're going to talk to one who wants to debate so bad after the break. Don't go away. Welcome back to Detroit Talk City. I'm your host, Charlie Langdon. All right, still to come this half hour, third party candidates. Who cares? No, we care. Normally, when it comes to politics, it's either Democrat or Republican. So what about the need for those other parties? Well, Anthony Hudson, I don't know if he's with the Libertarians or not, but he is going to weigh in on what he thinks about third-party candidates. All right, here's our poll question one more time. Is the city of Detroit a good investment? If you were a billionaire, would you put your money in Detroit? There's the QR code right down there, bottom of your screen. We will show you the results of the vote later on in the show. And as you know, the show is all about hearing from you, the viewer. We're just having a conversation, and we want to know what you think. You can text us or call us. The number is 313-765-8844. Jump into the Zoom room as well, 892-4909-0290. And, of course, on social media, hashtag us at DetroitTalkCity. All right, Anthony Hudson here. um if you're voting now you'll see his name on the on the ballot for governor of Michigan are you are you a libertarian are you part of the libertarian party you get kicked out i can't figure it out i don't know what they're doing but it doesn't matter to me because at the end of the day i'm not going to submit to party bosses you know i i feel like i'm on the ballot as a libertarian as a libertarian but i thought they kicked you out uh they disavowed me because they didn't like something i say but the party that promotes freedom of speech in the constitution disavowed their candidate for freedom of speech you called the leaders uh tree hugging hippies i think i did is that the right quote that i get that's the right quote that's exactly how they're acting hippie what's that what's a tree hugging hippie well look at the libertarian state board and you'll you'll figure that out pretty quickly so you're not a libertarian anymore uh i would rather be independent to be honest with you you were you were a you ran for the republican at one point time. I did. You got kicked out. You got kicked out of Republicans. And now it looks like you're kind of kicked out of the Libertarian Party. You know what? If that tells anybody, that's what you should do. Don't submit to these parties in a party system that doesn't represent the people of the state of Michigan. Be your own person. Be free. Aren't you making the case that you really only can be only a Democrat or Republican to get elected to Michigan? I'm not making that case. The state's making that case because they only promote the left or the right when it comes to anything with the elections. Wouldn't it be easier to be a libertarian or a green party or a taxpayer party? I think those are the other parties on the ballot. Those are the other three. Would it be easier? No, I don't think so. I think anytime you're associated with a party, if you don't adhere to their ideology or their method of thinking, they're going to oust you. They're going to kick you out. They're going to push you away. And that's fine. Our forefathers weren't part of a party. They were independent, free-thinking men. That's where I'd rather be. But for every governor, every president, pretty much every, I can't think of any office where they elected maybe i'm wrong are truly independent even non-partisan candidates that most of them have a loyalty either conservative or liberal but but nevertheless do you think as an independent an independent can win any election in michigan well mike duggan thought so that's why he jumped in this race for a little while but he got out and i think uh charlie leduff had something to do with that but you know it is what it is i do think an independent will someday rise up and make a statement and push a narrative across the state or the country that gets people to open their minds and start free thinking and stop obeying the control that's given down by the party system. In reality, someone like a Mike Duggan probably would be able to do it because he already has a name recognition. He's got a track record of being elected nonpartisan, but nevertheless being elected. So and he can raise money. Other than that, I mean, he would be the one. But if you're not one of those, don't fit that category. An independent can't win. Well, that's why we call at the establishment for a reason if you're not in their sandbox they're not going to let you play did you want to play did you want to be at that debate yeah i was at the debate last night well outside the debate outside the debate because they wouldn't open the door and let me in so my question is what do i have to do for the state of michigan to honor and accept and respect the fact i legally made the ballot treat me like a candidate and stop discriminating against the hard-working men and women of this state that want to run for office for all the right reasons and let us in the debate. There was a Mitchell poll that was done just the other day. It was October 1st. I think you polled about 2%. That might be because that one poll put my name on it. But all the other, I got a call the other day for a survey. Who am I going to vote for governor in the state of Michigan, John James or Jocelyn Benson? I said, I'm going to vote for myself because I'm on the ballot. They said, who are you? I said, you don't know who you called? These surveys, if they're going to be accurate you need to list all of the candidates and make sure the people of the state have an opportunity to know the name and then hear about their their their solutions to the issues across the state otherwise i feel like it's straight up election interference all right so real quick if you are elected which i but if you are whatever are people voting for the libertarian point of view no or they're voting for you they're voting for anthony hudson and the platform that i have the the policies that i promote actually there's a running mate i think on there too right yeah there is a running mate on there you don't you two don't see eye to eye bo bo and i see eye to eye on everything that we run on you know it's just uh did he get kicked out of the party too no he didn't he didn't no and the attorney general candidate that we have for the Libertarian Party is more outspoken than I am but they silent they they censure me and disavow me for my freedom of speech it's a bunch of bigotry and hypocrisy within the Libertarian Party and the timing couldn't be better for the third largest party in the state to seek acknowledgement or to get some uh uh some some time on the air and they've been doing that Scotty Bowman's been interviewing and i've been calling up stations and interviewing right after him to set the record straight and i think that's something i could i should say real quick is that the the Libertarian Party didn't disavow me as a whole six people on the state board in order for me to even get the nomination, I had to have the majority of the vote from the body of the delegates, which I secured in June. The six people that disavowed me are the six people that didn't support me at the convention, and they were going to target me no matter what. So the party of non-aggression is aggressively going after their own candidate because they didn't get their way at the convention. But the reality is the ballots were already printed, so even if they didn't like you, they hated you, they couldn't put their own candidate on the ballot. No, they tried, but they failed. They failed. They failed at that. All right, I guess I got it. Bottom line, Anthony Hudson is on the ballot under the Libertarian Party. All right, what is a Libertarian? No, forget Libertarian. What do you stand for? Why are you running for governor? What's the major issue that the Democrats can't answer and the Republicans can't answer? Freedom. To be honest with you, if I had to sum it up in one word, the two-party system is all about control in the state of Michigan. They're monitoring us with Flock cameras. They're not listening to us. You don't like Flock cameras i don't like Flock cameras i think my father was chief of police in Texas for 18 years my uncles were cops for 32 years detective cops love these they maybe today but back then we didn't have that technology and they still did their job maybe we ought to give the give them more resources hire more police officers and give them the resources they need to go out and do their job but if you're an innocent man and you're driving down the road why does the government feel the need to monitor you or take a picture of your license plate as you pass through an intersection hold sounds like a libertarian point of view hold that thought for just one moment we do want to hear from you should there be uh more than two political parties to get some of these issues out you can text us you can call us our number is 313-765-8844 we'll get them answered live on the air Detroit Talk City back after the break what is the point of more than two political parties. Welcome back to Detroit Talk City. I'm your host, Charlie Leighton. With me, Anthony Hudson. He is a candidate for governor on the ballot as a Libertarian. They kicked him off the Libertarian Party, but that's right. He's still on the ballot as a Libertarian, and he was on the debate last night. He didn't debate. He was just there in the audience. All right, Z, text, right? I got it. All right, let's go for a text right now uh anthony hudson for governor michigan needs a big change and he is it let's go anthony you are the reason that i have uh now put in as a write-in candidate for lincoln park city council hashtag let's go what do you think about that giving people hope that's that's one of the biggest points of this campaign is to give people hope that they can stand stand up and push back against system that they don't agree with. So I appreciate your text. Thank you for sending that. I'm glad you're stepping up to the plate and you're going to run for office. More average citizens need to stand up and run for these offices. That's the only way we're going to cut the head off the snake and get rid of the corruption in Lansing. Let's take a call. Linda from Southfield here on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Linda. Hi. I would like to tell Mr. Hudson, I do not have a problem with the third party. Hi, I wanted to tell Mr. Hudson, I don't have a problem with a third party. My point now is that you have been on, you have the ear of thousands of people. You have an opportunity to let us know what the Libertarian Party is about and yourself, but all we're hearing is more complaints. We get enough of that from the other candidates. take this opportunity to educate so we will know let's take a closer look at a third party maybe there's something we're missing but if it's more of the same rhetoric then what's the point of bringing a third party in to do the thing. All right, Linda, we're going to get to that What's the difference between you, the Libertarians, the Democrats and the Republicans? So the Libertarian Party, the reason I joined the Libertarian Party back in February was because of the first five, uh, platforms that they had: freedom, individual liberty, uh, smaller government, less taxation, strong constitutional, uh, morals and a strong military defense. I believe we all should believe in those things if we're patriots of this country but as I was growing with the Libertarian Party and learning more and more about them, there were so many issues that I just can't get on board with, and if we get a chance to address that in a little bit, I'll be more than happy. No, we can do it And it sounds like some of those are Republican ideas. I don't know about Democrats, but a little more Republican ideas. Smaller government, strong national defense for two of the five. The original platform, yes, but there are other things that line up more with the Democrat agenda that I can't get on board with. All right, hold that thought. All right, coming up, we're going to answer your text, your questions live on the air. You are watching Detroit Talk City, back in a moment. All right, Detroit Talk City, do we need more than just the Democratic Party and the Republicans? party. Text us, call us with your questions or comments, 313-765-8844. You can jump in the Zoom room as well, 892-4909-0290. Let's take a call, okay? By the way, it's Anthony Hudson. He's a candidate for governor, formerly Republican, formerly Libertarian, but he's on the ballot as a Libertarian. He kicked off, but he's on the ballot. All right, Dan From Midland, you're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Dan. Good afternoon, guys. I have a question, or a question, however you may take it. The question is, is that you've got the Republicans, you've got the Democrats, you've got all these different parties, and they're trying to get you to go one way or the other way, and then you have the smaller guys like Anthony here, which I totally, totally agree with everything that you say. Absolutely, I love you. But they say, a lot of people say that you're wasting your vote when Anthony might not have any chance in the world to win but I want to vote for him but is it kind of like wasting a vote or how do you determine all that I'm not too sure that was my question. Dan it's a great great question. The wasting of the vote what do you think? So I think the wasting of the vote conversation is an establishment pushed messaging because they want to do everything they can to convince you to vote for their candidate in their party. It's almost like they don't think you have the ability to think for yourself or vote for who you think should win. And the Constitution gives you the right to vote your conscience, not be told by a political party how to vote. My response to this is, one, I don't own the election. I don't own the vote. Two, the amount of support that I have in this race, I could easily flip that and say, John James is absolutely blocked because of my campaign so if you want to literally look at this if you vote for John James knowing he's blocked by the third party candidate are you wasting your vote by voting for the Republican or do you want to take a shot with the third party that has enough support and could literally beat Benson because that's the only option in my opinion because John James doesn't have a he has zero path to victory in this race because of me i've never understood why libertarians and some of the third parties don't run for smaller offices so that it's a little cheaper and you can canvass and go door to door. I take another call real quick. Noreen from Wells. You're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Noreen. Hi, Charlie. Hi, Anthony. Hi. My question to Anthony is how many trips have you made throughout the counties of Michigan and why? Well, I have gone through all 83 counties once. I've been through 62 counties twice. And why? Because every time I go to the same county again or the first time, I was meeting with different people in different cities, different rural areas, different communities, talking to different people and asking what are their concerns with the state? What's holding them back from being successful in Michigan? And I felt that it was important to hit as many towns as I possibly could, shake as many hands as I possibly could, and get as many questions asked of me as I possibly could. So for this campaign, being a third-party candidate, I've raised just under $100,000, but I've driven almost 90,000 miles across the state, and I don't know how many hands I've shaken over that time period, but it's been a crazy experience. I've loved every minute of it. I've gotten to know the state better than I knew before. I think it's part of the job. Well, you've got to go out and meet the people. You've got to go out there. You've got to get out there. Or you can do television and pay. That's too much. Too much money. Let's take another call here. Gary. Hey, Gary from Brownstown. Always good to hear from you, Gary. Hello, Charlie. Thanks for taking the call. And hello, Mr. Hudson. A couple questions for Mr. Hudson. What were the reasons that the party members were so against having him as a candidate? I looked for that information. I couldn't find it specifically. Do you mind sharing that with us? And the second thing is, does the Libertarian Party have anybody running for the U.S. Senate in the midterms? First question. What was the first question again? Why were you kicked out? Oh, so the reason they didn't like me. Why was he kicked out? They didn't like me so much because they knew I just came from the Republican Party. And the Libertarian Party is fearful of Republicans leaving the Republican Party and infiltrating the Libertarian Party with Republican ideas. they don't want that so-called takeover and they thought that's exactly what i was trying to do a lot of similarities there's a lot of similarities there are um more so back in 1971 when the libertarian party was created than there are today um the second part of the question was do they have a U.S. Senate candidate? They do, uh her name is Lydia, she's from the UP and she's been campaigning mostly up in the UP but they do have a uh a U.S. Senate candidate in this race all right, thank you Gary. Let's take another call here, Diana from Sterling Heights here on Detroit Talk City. Hello Diana, hi Charlie, hello Mr. Hudson, hi um first I just want to say your hat says fix Michigan, Michigan's not broken, um second of all you said you stand for freedom, that's what you're standing for. What is it in regards to our freedom are you standing for? You're not saying anything directly but soundbites. Okay, freedom, what does freedom mean specifically? Freedom by definition is the ability to think act say and do as you wish. What can't you do without the feeling of enslavement? So when you have all these repugnant taxes that are put on us you have all these regulations on our businesses telling us how to operate our own businesses, that's not freedom when the government tells you what to do or controls you in any facet of your life that's not freedom. The problem with people in Michigan is they don't under or the country is they don't understand what true freedom really is because we've always had kind of a collar around our neck and they let us go so far and they pull us back. As far as Michigan being broken, we are absolutely broken. Our roads are some of the worst in the country our education is racing towards the bottom of number 50 Our infrastructure is falling apart We don't have a clue as to what's going on. Health care is expensive. Child care is expensive. Property taxes keep getting raised. Michigan is fundamentally broken, and we do need to right the ship and do things a little bit differently if we want to save our state. Shelly from Westland, you're on Detroit Talk City Hello, Shelly. Hey, what's going on? Hey, listen, you know what? I really have to say that I agree with Linda from Southfield. You know, if you're running for a government office, I believe that you should really outline your beliefs and what you want to correct in the government, as opposed to complaining about what these other people are doing. I mean, I am not a staunch Democrat or Republican. I vote for who I believe really is going to do the job and do the job right. So, I mean, I really haven't heard anything about what you are going to correct should you be elected. You said those are the problems? What are the solutions? So what I've been running on for the last 19 months is the elimination of property taxes in the state of Michigan. Pure home ownership. John James has the same position. John James took that for me. If you look at who jumped in this race first and who jumped in later down the road, who had this policy first? I did. My second policy was to eliminate the state income tax. Third was to get rid of no-fault car insurance. Fourth was to put permanent plates on our vehicles. all of these platforms all of these agendas will put your money back in your pocket and stop feeding your money to a corrupt system in Lansing that's been taking advantage of you the other thing i want to address real quick is she she hit the nail on the head i've done a lot of videos 42,000 videos on social media i don't have the money to come up here and be on tv with commercials or on the radio or billboards or things like that so the true grassroots method of taking a video sharing it commenting reposting it is how i've grown my base and a lot of people in social media in the state of Michigan have heard my explanation of what the problems are and how i'm going to fix them i just haven't been given a fair shot to be on tv to discuss those and answer those issues so i hope that gives you a little bit of peace of mind with that we we're doing it just not at the same level as Jocelyn or John all right let's take a text here uh the vote for Libertarian is absolutely a wasted vote because the majority rules do the math you will only weaken a good party on either side the vote is going nowhere how do you answer that you may weaken if you're more republican you may take some republican votes for example did you not listen to that debate last night those candidates are horrible we've heard that debate many different debates in the past it's the same story the same message the same argument from the left from the right, if you think that it's a wasted vote for the libertarian, then go support the establishment, support higher property taxes, support more regulations, higher taxes, less freedom, and more control by the government. That's your choice. But if you want to change, if you want to experience something different where you actually get to keep your money, try something different. At the end of the day, and I want to say this on air, if I don't get one agenda done on my platform in the first four years, I will not run for re-election because I will have failed the people. This is a job of service. And if you can't serve the people and do the right thing by the people, you shouldn't be there. And I have enough integrity to walk away after four years. Let's get another call real quick. Jill from Shelby Township. You're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Jill. Jill, are you there? Let's get Jonathan from Detroit. Jonathan, you're on Detroit Talk City. Hello, Jonathan. I'll take anybody right now. I've got a buddy. Hi, are you there? There you go, Jill. I knew you were there. Hi, Jill. Hey, I just have a, my question is this, and I apologize if this has already been talked about, but I feel like this is so important, so to reiterate it might be a good idea. The independent candidates and third-party candidate nominees like yourself, they represent a growing segment of voters who are tired of the two-party duopoly. given that you are legally on the ballot why do you think the debate organizers exclude you from the stage and how do you plan to get your message out to voters who are behind the chance to see you debate the major party candidates all right jill thank you i've got like 10 seconds left go ahead so they exclude me because they're afraid to have me on stage against those two opponents because they know i'm outspoken and i will put them in their place i don't care who's watching but to get to it we have to go after them we have to force them to include us in those debates because we have a right to be there as a candidate legally on the ballot Anthony Hudson candidate for governor of Michigan Libertarian look at the ballot all right we gotta take a quick break when we come back after the break all right welcome back Detroit Talk City time for the results of our question of the day is Detroit a good investment here's what you're saying no 59 no the rest say yes all right that's all for Detroit Talk City you remember we're here Monday through Friday at four o'clock definitely tune us in all right the five o'clock news with me is next i'll see you in about 30 seconds