Candidates make last push with 5 days until Election Day

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there's a lot to talk about and no time to waste, so let's roll.
Our midterm countdown rolls on tonight,
just five days to go until Election Day.
Former State Representative Mari Mnookin,
who's now the Executive Director of the Next 50,
and Chris Moyer, the Senior Director
of Public Affairs with Trust Scott Rossman.
They're diving into the big headlines, the big stories,
and the big initiatives all the candidates should be talking about now.
And we're diving into a pretty heavy topic in our third block.
There are calls for change at the state legislature given
the lack of laws preventing the grooming of children.
Attorney Neil Brand with what needs to be done after
a very disturbing allegation that came out in the last few weeks.
But we begin tonight once again with the race for Senate.
We've told you how some big names are stumping
for both of these candidates, Republican Mike
Rogers and Democrat Dr. Abdul El-Sayed,
and that's continued over the last few days.
El-Sayed campaigning in Jackson
with the senator he's trying to join in representing
our state, Alyssa Slotkin,
while Rogers campaigned yesterday with Texas Senator Ted Cruz at a
Republican-Jewish coalition event in Oakland County.
Slotkin had a message of unity.
While both Rogers and Cruz made accusations
of anti-Semitism against El-Sayed.
Things we disagree on are one thing.
The things we agree on are so much bigger than those differences.
And that to me right now
is the defining thing among the Democratic Party.
Are you on team fight or are you on team flight?
Tucker Carlson has formally endorsed Abdul El-Sayed.
That shows the dissent you see.
Seems hurtful.
You start down this road
and the reason is existential is I don't want to wake up in
five years and find both parties absolutely anti-Israel
and unapologetically anti-Semitic.
And so if we don't kill it,
it will take over both parties and we cannot let that happen.
And we need to tell you how big
of a deal next Tuesday is for clerks' offices
and the Secretary of State's office.
Detroit City Clerk Janice Winfrey is saying all of their voting systems
have gone through testing as required by law.
They also have 4,000 trained election workers, 400 precincts,
and more than enough drop boxes to go around.
Bottom line, Winfrey says they're ready.
And she addressed those election monitors
the DOJ from the feds is sending here.
Not only here, but to six other Michigan cities.
Take a listen.
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To the war in Iran now,
where Iran says three oil tankers hit mines and caught fire on the
Strait of Hormuz over the past day.
The report didn't give details about the tankers
or if anybody was hurt or killed, and the
AP couldn't independently verify it.
But it does come amid concerns
that the U.S. could restart strikes in the Strait after
Tuesday's election.
All this as people around the world deal with higher fuel prices.
And did you hear about this?
A cruise ship suspends a three-year worldwide cruise
because of the high gas prices.
It's actually docked right now at a Cambodian port,
and the passengers and crew, well, they're stranded.
The company says it's working
to find temporary arrangements for all of them.
The passengers are obviously pretty frustrated.
And taking a look
at the latest averages,
according to GasBuddy.com,
it doesn't look
great.
Look, in the United States, the average is $4.20 a gallon.
That's actually better than what we're dealing with in Michigan, $4.61.
And here in Metro Detroit, it's down $0.05 from the last day.
$4.75 a gallon.
Still, it hurts to fill up every single time.
That's just scratching the surface,
so let's pick up the pace and run through some of the
other big stories we're on top of right now.
The Justice Department issues subpoenas
to California officials as part of its investigation
into alleged non-citizens voting.
This covers employees in Los Angeles County,
and they're ordered to appear in court the
day after the election.
It also requests records
or documents related to the letter sent by the DOJ, which laid
out allegations of non-citizens on those voter rolls.
All U.S. attorneys in California are talking about the subpoenas.
A special master has been appointed
to evaluate the administration's claims.
Meantime, a federal judge orders
the Trump administration to identify all states it's
pressured officials to go along with efforts
to prevent non-citizens from voting.
Democrats are challenging those efforts as an illegal power grab.
Party leaders asked the judge to block
the Trump administration from trying to undermine
state election procedures,
as well as an order banning the administration from removing legally
registered voters from those rolls
and stopping states from counting ballots there.
The judge says he plans to rule on Monday.
Statistics show cases of non-citizens voting,
it does happen, but it is exceedingly rare.
Saying in court where CNN, MSNOW,
and Politico ramped up their lawsuits against the Trump administration,
they say the administration is disobeying a judge's order
by refusing to let them cover President Trump
in the Oval Office or on Air Force One.
The president banned the outlets from the White House
in September, saying he objected to the
reporting. A judge ordered them allowed back in the White House,
saying that ban violated their
First Amendment rights.
The three outlets are now pushing the judge to make his prior orders
permanent.
We are continuing our countdown to the midterms after the break.
Former Democratic State Representative Mari Mnookian
and public affairs expert Chris Moyer
talking about the race to the finish.
Five days to go.
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Here to dive into the midterms,
former Democratic State Representative Mari Mnookian,
who's now the executive director of The Next 50,
and Chris Moyer, the senior director
of public affairs with Truscott Rossman.
It's good to see you both. Thanks for joining us here tonight.
Thank you.
Great to be here.
Let's talk about this.
We have five days to go, and I don't watch a lot of network TV, but...
Even if you try to ignore it, you look up at the big TVs
in the newsroom and everyone's talking about Michigan.
Mari, where is this race headed and what is...
Would you say the most critical thing
for both parties to be talking about and thinking
about right now?
Yeah, I think Democrats are going to have
a great night on Tuesday, not just in Michigan,
but across the country.
We're seeing Jocelyn Benson's campaign close incredibly strong.
Of course, same thing with Abdul
El-Sayed having former President Obama here last weekend,
really energizing voters in the city of Detroit.
And today, I saw that early voting in the city
was the highest it's ever been reported.
So this is very exciting.
When you talk about early voting, obviously people have made
up their decisions, they're going out.
But the numbers that we're seeing are incredible.
You talk about this, but when you look at 2024,
Chris, and you say, whoa, I mean, we
had larger numbers this time around
this past weekend than we did in 2024 when Kamala Harris
was on the ballot.
What is this saying?
What is the message to everyone
who's running in all of these really important races right
now?
If you look at Wayne County, you look
at Washtenaw County, you look at Oakland County.
Wayne County, in particular,
is running ahead and the city of Detroit is running ahead
of where they were two years ago.
That shows a lot of enthusiasm is on the Democratic side.
At the same time, an unenthusiastic vote counts just
as much as an enthusiastic one.
Republicans do tend to show up
a little bit more on election day to vote.
So this is a good sign for the Benson campaign.
This is a good sign for the al-Sayed campaign.
But it is not over.
We have five days to go.
And I think that that's really critically important.
Obviously, when you have that kind
of energy around early voting, it's exciting for those
who of course want to assume that office.
But you're right, Republicans are usually the ones who show up day of.
And when I went to that Trump rally the other day
and had a chance to interview the president,
I was there for probably an hour before our interview.
The groundswell of support in small town America is
Something that you cannot just put away.
I mean, this is something that's really happening,
and it's happening in big numbers.
The Democrats have to realize that the fight is real.
Yeah, absolutely, but what I would like
to point out is that the al-Sayed campaign
in particular has gone everywhere across the entire state of Michigan.
It's how he won that primary by such a small margin.
He made sure to run up numbers in places like Kent County
and in the Upper Peninsula.
Those are places that have traditionally
been Republican strongholds, but we're seeing the
al-Sayed campaign having done a lot of work
to have inroads there very early on, building
trust with voters very early,
and now I think they're hoping to see that pay off in a big
way on Tuesday.
You know, you rewind and you go to your.
A few years back, and I remember covering Alyssa Slotkin
and Mike Rogers in that race.
And I went back and looked at some video
of interviews I did with both candidates.
The issues we were talking about, similar but extremely different.
The geopolitical weight was not there.
Now you have this incredible geopolitical weight
in which you have Arab Americans and
Jewish Americans and Christians and Hindus
and all these groups coming together and Muslims
saying, wait a minute, who am I gonna vote for based on?
Sorry, but it's true on some of the identity politics.
How much of a factor does that play, Chris?
There's no doubt that identity politics
is playing a factor in at least the narrative
and the conversation that is happening over the airwaves
and certainly on all of the commercials
that we get to watch.
One of the things that was really interesting
when you look at some of the crosstabs of
two of the most recent polls,
the Glenn Gareff poll earlier this week, the Mitchell poll
that came out just yesterday.
Abdul Al-Sayed for all of the talk about Democrats for Mike Rogers,
Abdul Al-Sayed has done a
better job consolidating support according to those polls
and those crosstabs, 94% of
Democrats say they are firmly behind Abdul Al-Sayed compared to the 90%
For Mike Rogers of those Republicans.
To me, that goes back to the thesis
that we've talked about many times on this program.
That midterm elections, this is about can you get your base out?
And right now, the Democrats are certainly getting their base out.
President Trump coming last week,
that was a signal to his supporters, let's get out
there and try to catch up.
Laurie, I want to talk to you a little bit about polls because
Kind of like doing this audit on some
of the interviews I did, I also was looking at
some polling.
In the last 10 years, polling seems to indicate perhaps
a direction in a moment, but the moments
are changing so quickly.
And because of social media,
because of how quickly people change their minds, do you
believe that polls still hold an important place in our conversation?
They hold an important place in our conversation,
but as executive director now of the next
50, I have the privilege of working
with candidates up and down the ballot.
Private polling and internal polling is very important
when it comes to making some big
financial decisions about where to spend resources,
money, candidate time.
And the way that we need to make sure
that our polling is accurate is something that's
gonna impact campaigns on both sides of the aisle.
So I do agree with you, it is definitely
a snapshot in time, and it's something that
our campaigns are taking into consideration,
whether it's campaigns in Michigan that we're
supporting or Ohio or anywhere else.
But we do recognize that a lot of folks
who are responding to these polls are getting
I'm getting them via text message.
Sometimes they're open survey monkey links
that are just open-ended that you can vote
in multiple times.
So understanding the veracity of these polls
and whether they are to be trusted so you
can understand the methodology of it is just
as important as understanding the results.
I wanna talk a little bit about a mood and tone
and tenor of these candidates when they
talk about what people care about,
cuz I think that's an interesting thing.
You'll hear candidates saying people don't care about
that, they care about this.
And pick your candidate, Republican or Democrat.
The mistake that was made, arguably,
by Democrats in 2024 was there is nothing to see.
There's no border issue.
No, there's no economy issue.
People feel great about the economy.
Do you fear, perhaps, or should Republicans fear,
I should ask the question more accurately,
that they're making the same mistake
as Kamala Harris by saying people will get over gas
prices?
The president told me the other day, you know what,
if you're a good American, you'll be
fine with the higher gas prices.
Does that work?
Maybe in World War II that worked when we were fighting Nazis,
but right now, this was
a choice to go to war earlier this spring.
And voters here in Michigan and across
the country are responding to that, and when they
see gas prices at this level right now,
they know that this did not have to happen this
way.
I think the Mike Rogers campaign has done
as an exemplary job as they can to paint him
As the everyday Michigander,
A guy who is your neighbor, but at the same time,
he's too associated right now with Donald
Trump and Donald Trump's policies.
And that has left a big opening for Abdul El-Sayed
to come in and talk about those pocketbook
issues, the issues that people feel every time they have
to fill up their gas tank.
But Mari, Mike Rogers has
also made it clear in the last four weeks that he breaks
from President Trump when it comes to the trade war in Canada.
He also breaks from President Trump when it comes to the Iran war.
Um,
People do change their opinions.
They change their views.
Abdul has changed his views on a few things as well.
Should people believe these candidates
when they tell us they've changed their minds?
I'll tell you this.
I don't believe Mike Rogers for a second.
The way that he stood side by side with President Trump
when President Trump was spewing hateful
bile about Abdul El-Sayed and his background
and gripping and grinning with him and smiling
ear to ear after he said all of those things about Abdul
and his background, which was
just despicable.
I'll have to say this.
It is pretty clear to me
that the Rogers campaign understands exactly what was just
discussed here.
Chris made an excellent point about this,
that voters can see through this idea that
they should stand by their vote in 2024 if they voted for Trump
and vote again for Republicans
and trust that they can handle the economy.
For the first time in a very long time,
Democrats are the most trusted party, even though their
brand is in the tank.
We are the most trusted party when it comes to the economy.
And prices, and bringing down costs.
The power of condemnation is something
that perhaps is a tool in a tool chest that these
candidates across the country are not quite adept at using.
To be able to say, for Abdullah Al Sayed,
when he said hurt people hurt, right?
When he said that after the terrible thing
that happened right down the road from here
where we had kids in that.
Daycare was was not okay.
He then apologized later for it,
saying that he shouldn't have said that.
President Trump calling Abdul a jihadist.
And then when Mike Rogers is asked about it, not condemning it overtly.
These are are these moments that people and voters keep track of Chris?
They do keep track of them and character really does matter.
I think that we are ultimately going
to see a return to to some of those.
Character first issues,
there will be a reaction to some of the things that President Trump
has let us down over the past.
12 years in his three different campaigns.
I agree with Mari that Mike Rogers probably shouldn't have gripped
and grinned so enthusiastically
with President Trump when talking about Abdul El-Sayed.
That's not the right thing to do.
Abdul El-Sayed is a smart American,
grew up not too far from where Mari and I grew up.
And he's a good guy, just like Mike Rogers is.
Are you Rochester folks?
We're both Birmingham.
Birmingham?
We're mates.
I'm a Troy guy.
All right.
Okay, we got it.
Just on the road.
Just on the road.
We played football against each other.
We like each other.
That's right.
That's right.
It's good to see both of you here today.
Mari, thank you.
Chris, thank you for your time as well.
Thank you.
We're switching gears after the break.
There are calls right now
to actually change something in our state law.
Advocates are saying there's simply not enough
on the books to really help stop pedophiles
from grooming children.
Attorney Neil Brand with what needs to be done.
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Here with the legal changes he says need
to happen to protect children in Michigan,
Attorney Neil Brand.
We're talking about a case out
in Grosse Ile where they had a coach that had some serious
allegations against him after he apparently texted
a young person excessively friendly,
kind, compliments, notes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kind of blow back on that.
People said, wait a minute here,
you can't do that with a 13, 14-year-old kid.
And then it brought into the question something
that this show is all about, which is policy.
In the state of Michigan,
we are not one of the 20 states that has laws against grooming.
First of all, what is, by definition of the law, grooming?
Grooming, well, we don't have that law in Michigan,
but by other states like Texas,
grooming is finding a child,
saying things to the child to get you to trust them more and more,
like telling the child, you're so beautiful,
asking questions about the child, having secrets
with them, and having inside jokes,
doing things to sort of alienate them from their parents,
The groomer, sometimes the coach,
sometimes the teacher, they become the person that
the child looks up to for praise, sometimes even discipline.
So you isolate the child from their parents.
Okay, so in this case that we had right here
at closer to home downriver, you had a case
in which basically the prosecutor said there's
really nothing legally we can do to press
charges against this person for this, well,
some parents and many parents, most parents
would say was inappropriate text messaging with the kid.
And that really kind of struck me.
As odd and scary, because as someone who has nieces and nephews,
and I think about kids
who are just innocent, how can this be okay?
Why are we not one of 20 states?
Why aren't we one of the states that actually says,
look, we gotta do something to legislate
against this?
It's very hard to do this.
First of all, to make a law,
anytime you're curtailing speech, the law has to be very
narrow.
And it has to be able-
To be understood by people committing the crime
or else it's gonna get thrown out for
maybe a First Amendment violation
or a 14th Amendment violation like in Minnesota.
I think the law was under C1A and it got thrown out
because it was considered to be vague
and not easily understood
or not the most restrictive possible for the First Amendment.
So we have to make the law perfect.
You have to understand that any law that's made involving speech,
the ACLU is gonna look
at and then you got people on both sides of the aisle.
Arguing over what the law has to say.
It's not easy to pass a law like this.
But if there's a kid out there
and they're physically touched on the arm or on the shoulder
or always given affection by someone
who's in a coaching position or a teaching position,
they could then easily say, this person
physically hit me on the shoulder,
rubbed my head, my back, whatever.
And that would amount to something.
But in this case, it's because it's text messages.
Is that why there's a difference?
Yeah, that's a great point.
Those laws go back hundreds of years.
Before even this country was formed,
they go back to the common law of Europe.
But we formed these laws before people started considering how iPhones
and tablets were going
to work.
We just didn't have the legislation
because nobody had thought about it.
We didn't contemplate that people are gonna have
these devices that for 24 hours a day,
they could reach anybody from anywhere and in these cases,
sometimes outside the supervision
It's a vision of their parents.
So we take a look at that other side
of the equation that you're talking about, where
perhaps people who are there to protect
the rights of folks who are saying, look, they
were just exercising their free speech.
Even though we don't have an anti-grooming law here,
a grooming law in Michigan, there
is a line that an adult should know not to cross
when they're texting a young person
that could get them in trouble here, even without the law, right?
Right, start with this.
You're not friends with the young person you're coaching.
Your job is to develop them
and make them better at the sport or discipline in which
you're an expert in coaching.
You're not there to find out what they do in school,
what they do in their home, telling
them they look good in certain clothing.
And this coach...
I believe, told the child, I wish I was younger,
as if to have a relationship with them.
So the research I did and the people I called for this show tonight,
you find out the outrage
in the community, and the outrage is great for two reasons.
One, it's justified, and two,
it doesn't matter what side of the political aisle you're on.
Everybody's outraged, and this time of year
with everybody taking a side on the election,
this is an area that we all agree,
this coach was at best or worst creepy.
What he did was completely inappropriate
and you have organizations like SafeSport
that removed him from coaching, which is great.
We took care of the problem the best we can take care
of the problem, removed him from
being able to groom children.
But the person is still in an administrative role within
an organization in which kids
are present.
That being said, if you have a serious issue
with this as most people would, contact your
local lawmakers, talk to your Michigan legislators
and say, can we do something?
Because there are 20 other states
that do something to make sure that this doesn't
happen.
And look, it's something that obviously we
all have to be on top of, and we certainly
will on this show.
Neil Brand, attorney, great to see you.
Thanks for joining us here tonight.
It's great to see you, Ruth.
Thank you very much.
That is the Pulse for tonight.
Thank you so much for joining us.
I'm Ruth Braj.
It was good to be with you.
