So Broke They Fight Over Trash! Hunters Fill Beijing Neighborhoods, Brawling Over Cardboard

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Two older women get into a fight beside a residential trash collection point. They are fighting over a few delivery boxes in a garbage bin. One keeps shouting, “Call 110, the police!”
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Two older women get into a fight beside
a residential trash collection point.
They're fighting over a few delivery boxes in a garbage bin.
One keeps shouting,
Call 110, the police!
An older man and woman grip a blue garbage bin,
fighting over a few pieces of cardboard inside.
It's a sad scene, despite how absurd it looks.
Two older men argue about who gets to search a garbage bin.
One even picks up a weapon and waves it around.
Two older women fight over a bag of trash beside
the bins in a residential neighborhood.
One holds tightly to a corner while the other pulls at it.
Trash spills across the ground during the struggle.
A resident finally steps in to settle the dispute.
Thank you.
Scenes like these play out every day across China.
Many people online say competition
has become intense in every industry.
They never expected collecting scrap to become one of the toughest
and most competitive ways to make a living.
As people compete to survive,
some city and neighborhood garage bins have become unofficial
territories. Certain collectors treat them
as their own exclusive collection sites. Anyone who
moves too slowly loses out.
Anyone who crosses into someone else's territory and takes recyclables
can trigger a confrontation.
Outside a restaurant in Shanghai,
an older woman spotted discarded cardboard boxes beside a
garbage bin and went to collect them.
A man on a three-wheeled bike quickly arrived. He considered
himself the owner of the bins along that street.
Seeing her take what he viewed as his property,
he rushed forward and shoved her. She stumbled and fell hard.
Even on the ground, she held tightly
to the boxes as they pulled and fought over them.
When he realized that she wouldn't let go and a
When a crowd was starting to gather, he left.
Cursing as he went, some scrap collectors even enter businesses
and take other people's
property as if it belongs to them.
We're still using these things. Stop. Let go.
Security footage from a store shows
an employee breaking down a large delivery box.
An older woman, waiting outside,
suddenly rushes in and tries to grab it.
She knocks over a floor lamp near the entrance
and shoves a young female employee who tries to stop her.
The employee calls the police.
When officers arrive, the older woman drops to the ground,
crying and pleading for sympathy.
She even insists she never entered the store.
The person in charge of the store said
staff had felt sorry for the woman
and regularly given her empty boxes.
Over time, she began treating
the store's discarded materials as her exclusive property.
She demanded that employees bundle up every box and save it for her.
They were not to put boxes in the trash
or give them to other collectors.
Whenever cleaners took the boxes away,
she would block the entrance and shout abuse for hours,
seriously disrupting business.
Similar incidents are common in residential neighborhoods.
One person wrote online
that movers had temporarily placed solid wood bed panels
and cabinets by the road while unloading.
The furniture could be taken apart and reassembled.
Several older people saw it and started carrying it away.
When the vehicle's owner rushed after
them to retrieve it, they showed no embarrassment.
Instead, they replied,
The boards looked nice and smooth. I thought you didn't want them.
Another person complained online.
It happens when you're eating out, too.
You haven't even finished your drink,
and someone comes over, asking you to hurry up and give her the bottle.
She says the staff will throw her out if they catch her.
As fights over trash intrude on daily life,
the privacy violations and emotional strain
leave residents overwhelmed.
A topic titled trash hunters appear in several Beijing neighborhoods
became a trending search on October 26th.
It quickly struck a chord with millions of
young people trying to make a living in the city.
Across Chinese social media,
young people who moved to Beijing for work have shared
their frustrations. They say taking out
the trash now leaves them deeply embarrassed.
These trash hunters are scrap collectors
who wait around building entrances and waste sorting
stations throughout the day and night.
For many young residents, taking out the trash
used to be a minor chore.
Now, the short walk downstairs can feel like a stressful confrontation.
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Now, you even have to arrange well when you take out the trash.
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Lately, trash hunters have appeared in many Beijing neighborhoods.
They wash the garbage bags outside people's doors.
They take boxes without asking and grab bottles
to
so fast it feels like a robbery.
A neighbor has saved delivery boxes for a week.
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The moment they looked away, someone took them without saying a word.
Young people who move to Beijing often prefer to keep to themselves.
now.
Now, they have to mentally prepare just to take out the trash.
They're afraid to go during the day.
They don't want to run into these people.
Be stared at, or hear embarrassing comments.
Some wait until late at night, when the hallway is empty.
Then, they crouch down and slip their bags
into the bin like they're sneaking around.
It's stuff you don't want.
Yet, they're throwing it away makes you feel awkward.
You haven't even finished dealing with it
and someone is already wanting to take it.
It's hard to describe how that feels.
In many neighborhoods,
young residents step out of an elevator carrying delivery boxes
and immediately find older collectors watching them.
Before they reach the bins,
someone reaches out and takes the boxes from their hands.
If two collectors want the same boxes,
the resident can suddenly find themselves
at the center of a neighborhood shouting match.
For young women, having bags of personal waste ripped open
and searched right in front of them
can be especially humiliating and upsetting.
Taking out the trash during the day is honestly frightening.
I just went downstairs.
I'd barely stepped out of my building and hadn't even reached the bins.
The older people in the neighborhood came straight over,
like hunting dogs picking up a scent.
I clearly told her it was the bathroom trash.
There were no bottles.
She wouldn't listen.
Wouldn't listen at all.
Before I could even put the bag in the bin,
she grabbed it, tore it open, and started digging through it.
It was used toilet paper. There was nothing worth taking.
It was so embarrassing. Right there in broad daylight.
We understand that you're trying to make a living,
but please wait until we've walked away before you search it.
They pull out everything, piece by piece,
and put it on display. I just can't stand it.
A vlogger in Sichuan
also complained that older collectors do more than grab trash.
When they find personal items, they gossip about them.
Do you want me to turn off the news?
I'm so embarrassed.
I'm so embarrassed.
Someone needs to do something about
the older people digging through our trash.
It's so embarrassing. The second I throw something away,
they pull it out and put it on display.
They're looking for bottles and cardboard,
but there aren't any in my bag. It's just random stuff I threw away.
And my cat's poop is in there as well.
It's filthy.
I haven't even walked away,
and you're already humiliating me in public.
At least wait until I'm gone.
If you're going to search it, fine.
But stop gossiping about me afterward.
I have my dignity.
I still have to live in this neighborhood.
They pull out absolutely everything and lay it all out.
These searches leave residents with little privacy.
Collectors pull out used feminine
hygiene products and worn underwear by hand,
laying them on the ground and sorting through
them in broad daylight.
To avoid that public humiliation, many young people carefully time
their trips to the bins.
Xiaowei, a young woman living
in an older former employee housing complex in Beijing,
now cuts personal items into scraps before throwing them away.
She goes downstairs at
exactly 5.55pm. That's
when the older collectors go home to put their grandchildren to bed.
The property management's collection truck
then takes the bins away at 9pm. She jokes,
I'm not disposing of a body,
I'm just throwing out the household trash, but I have to act
like an agent avoiding surveillance.
An ordinary citizen is left without the freedom
or dignity to dispose of her own waste in
peace.
Other residents say collecting cardboard is one thing,
but pulling everyone's garbage back out
of the bins is another.
In already hot weather, spilled liquids cover the ground and leave a
foul smell. They want someone to address the problem.
They say everyone should share responsibility
for keeping the neighborhood clean,
rather than letting some people ignore it.
Trash hunters are appearing well beyond Beijing.
The practice is spreading through major cities
like Shanghai, Tianjin, Guangzhou, Chongqing, and Wuhan.
Garbage bins are searched over and over
every day. It's not even light out,
and the bins have already been searched eight times.
Yet they say average savings are 118,900 yuan.
That average sure doesn't affect my life.
I'd like to know where my share is. Get here late.
And there won't even be a bin left to search.
People online have a saying about Tianjin.
No plastic bottle stays in a garbage bin here
for more than five minutes.
A street front shop owner decided to keep count.
In just one day, different older collectors searched
the bins outside his store 75 times.
Many people online say that with bins searched so often,
sorting household waste seems pointless.
Recycling bins are always empty.
垃圾桶一天翻八遍,所以我很早之前我就说过
The bins get searched eight times a day.
That's why I've said for a long time that people
in China don't need to sort their trash.
They set up separate bins for recyclables and non-recyclables.
But whatever you throw in, someone will sort it carefully for you.
They do it eight times a day.
Sorting is already being done before
you even think about doing it at home.
One person summed it up online.
The bins are separated into categories.
The trash never is.
The first round of sorting is done by older residents.
They work in shifts 24 hours a day,
quickly and precisely. The second round
is handled by the neighborhood's cleaning staff,
with coordinated schedules
and clearly assigned tasks. The third round is done
by workers at the waste transfer station,
who pick out anything the others missed.
Residents and property managers face another problem
when some older collectors stockpile
scrap in shared hallways, stairwells, and even fire escape routes.
Once open, passageways become
packed with flammable cardboard and plastic.
The piles attract cockroaches and rats and pose
serious fire risks. Neighbors repeatedly clash over them.
Residents flood neighborhood committees
with complaints and call the police.
But property managers and officers often try to smooth things
leaving the problems unresolved for years.
Trash collecting in residential neighborhoods has
also led to legal disputes and demands for
money. An older woman who searches the bins almost got money out of me.
I was cleaning out my freezer
and threw two large bags of expired meat
and food into the bin downstairs. I saw her searching it
and I warned her, this is all expired and spoiled.
You can't eat it. I'm throwing it away. I made
I made sure to record the whole thing on my phone.
That was two days ago.
Today, as soon as I came downstairs,
she blocked the hallway entrance
and grabbed me so I couldn't leave.
She shouted,
I ate the expired meat from your bag
and it gave me diarrhea for days.
You have to pay me and explain yourself.
I showed her the video right there.
I proved I had thrown the food away,
not offered it to her to eat.
Without that video,
I would have had a hard time explaining what happened
even at a police station.
Someone retrieves discarded food,
eats it,
Get sick and then demands compensation
from the person who threw it away.
The incident reflects concerns about declining standards
of behavior in Chinese society.
Financial pressure and greed can lead some older people
to make unreasonable demands.
People described as trash hunters come
from several different backgrounds.
One person wrote on Red Note,
People seem desperately short of money these days.
In both upscale and ordinary neighborhoods,
older people gather around the bins.
Someone is always searching them.
A retired teacher in our neighborhood
is in his 70s and does it every day.
He sorts cardboard and plastic bottles,
then bundles them up and sells them for a few yuan.
I asked if his pension wasn't enough.
He said it covered his needs, but not his son's.
His son took out an 800,000 yuan mortgage,
with monthly payments of more than 4,000 yuan,
about 570 US dollars.
His daughter-in-law is pregnant with her second child.
He gives his pension to his son and goes out collecting scrap.
Another older woman was neatly dressed,
but she kept searching through bins wearing worn-out
gloves. She told me her daughter works out of town,
her grandson lives with her, and attends
school locally. His tutoring costs 8,000 yuan a year,
so she feels she has no choice. It's even
more striking in the upscale neighborhood.
Someone drives a Mercedes-Benz and then goes
out to collect boxes. Neighbors say his business lost money,
the car belongs to the company,
and his home is close to being auctioned off by a court.
He's still trying to keep up appearances.
In our three buildings, there
are more than 40 older residents, and half collect scrap.
Two days ago, someone caught a delivery box I
was throwing away before it even hit the ground.
Those few yuan represent more than money.
These people want a sense of security.
They're afraid of burdening their children,
and of reaching old age with empty pockets and nothing to fall back on.
It's hard to tell where financial desperation ends
and a practical response to life begins.
But the main group collecting scrap
is older migrants from rural areas who lack a social
safety net. They're in a different position from retirees
who still receive pensions.
Their circumstances are far more desperate than
those of urban retirees. Under China's separate
urban and rural systems, rural seniors generally receive pensions
of only about 100 to 150 yuan a
month. With prices rising,
that's barely enough to cover even basic food and clothing.
A Japanese vlogger's video
of rural China shows many elderly people struggling to walk
as they collect trash to survive.
They can no longer do heavy physical work. They lack
urban household registration and adequate social security.
Their children working in cities face
unemployment and pay cuts, leaving them unable to provide support.
For these seniors, a few
Few discarded boxes and plastic bottles
are their only defense against hunger.
Their circumstances contradict CCP General
Secretary Xi Jinping's declaration
that everyone in China has been lifted out of poverty.
Beyond the spread of older people
fighting over trash is a deeper crisis.
China's rapidly aging population.
One person online said,
the greatest danger of an aging society goes beyond pension shortfalls.
Once young people leave,
a community can lose the ability to sustain even ordinary daily life.
Villages and county towns are gradually emptying out.
Schools close because they have no students.
Shops close because they cannot make money.
Bus routes are canceled for lack of passengers.
Broken roads and water pipes can go unrepaired for years.
Caregivers, drivers, doctors,
and other essential workers become scarce.
Eventually, even homes offered for free find no takers.
The problem goes beyond a growing elderly population.
As young people leave, businesses, transportation,
Healthcare and maintenance services disappear.
Empty homes and deserted towns remain, with little daily life left.
Older people collecting scrap may be a familiar sight,
but in recent years, large numbers of
college-educated young people have joined them,
a troubling development in the growing competition
over trash. With China's economy struggling and employers cutting jobs,
youth unemployment has
become a major social burden.
When job opportunities disappear, degrees from elite universities offer
little protection. To survive,
these young people have set aside their pride and concern about
About appearances.
A video circulating online shows
a person eating leftover noodles from a garbage bin
on October 29th. The scene is in the parking lot
of Yangju Duck Hot Pot in Bingzhou, Shandong.
You can see how hard this life is.
Look at how hard life is.
The moment this garbage bin is brought over, they start
searching it. I don't know how much money they can make.
It's hard. Life really is hard.
This young man, born in the 2000s,
collects bottles in his spare time to help cover household expenses.
I've seen a lot of people who go to the mall during the holidays.
My pay is very low. Once I make my loan payments,
there's almost nothing left. I don't want to keep
relying on my family. A lot of young people spend time on this street,
so if you put in the work,
you can collect something. What they think is their business.
The truth is, other people don't
pay as much attention to us as we imagine.
I don't worry about that. I just hope they throw away more
Other people's options aren't that scary,
and saving face isn't that important.
If you want something, you have to go out and work for it.
He puts it plainly.
When you cannot support yourself, appearances stop mattering.
There is no shame in collecting scrap.
Going hungry is worse.
A real conversation shared on WeChat Moments illustrates
the severity of China's downturn.
Two tour bus business owners ran
into each other outside the Xinyang Museum in Henan.
They met beside a garbage bin near the attraction,
rather than in a private business lounge.
One had once owned dozens of buses.
Now he was searching the bin for empty bottles left by visitors.
That's when a local bus operator spotted him.
Asked how he was doing, he gave a bitter smile.
He said tour bookings had fallen to zero,
but loan and insurance payments continued.
To avoid missing payments, he collected bottles
while waiting for customers.
The local operator then told him,
This is my territory. Just leave the bottles beside the bin.
Don't take my business. My own vehicle loan became overdue today.
Their conversation captures their predicament.
Buses that once generated wealth have become heavy debt burdens.
They used to compare the size of their fleets.
Now they compare how many bottles they collect.
As the downturn hits, former middle-class earners and business owners
competing with the poor for recyclables becomes
a last means of survival.
Low-paid workers face even harder conditions.
With rents high in major cities such as Shenzhen
and Hangzhou, some young workers are sharing not just rooms but beds.
The arrangement has been jokingly called bedpooling.
It's just one little bed, about 51 inches wide,
with two young women sleeping in it.
They don't even know each other.
Every night after work, they come home and look at each other.
One sits at the head of the bed, the other at the foot.
They have no money. Life has forced
them into it. This isn't some internet joke.
It's something I've actually lived through.
Hundreds of billions of yuan
in public money go towards space programs, military parades,
and spending abroad. Meanwhile,
rural seniors in their 80s and 90s fight in the mud over plastic
bottles. Master's graduates search garbage bins
for scrap metal to buy two steamed buns to fill
Fill their stomachs.
The nationwide competition over trash challenges
the Chinese Communist Party's portrayal of
widespread prosperity. It exposes the weakness
of a system without an adequate social safety net
or reliable legal protections for property rights.
A system that treats people as a source of cheap
labor and pushes them to the limit leaves
its economic achievements on unstable ground.
