Breast Cancer Survivor: Eunice’s Journey Through Diagnosis, Treatment & Hope

Not everyone who dies has been diagnosed with cancer. In fact, I have friends who were diagnosed at stage 4. And they are still here three, four, five years later. And they are not dead; they are still here. So what am I saying? Your day will come, and you will die. And as long as your day has not come, life goes on Despite being diagnosed with stage 1, stage 2, and stage 3 cancer, Ume-diagnosed. A stage is nothing more than a number. Welcome, Celeste Reflection. I am your host Celeste Ndinda. It is always a pleasure to be on set. and especially when I have a guest with me. Nasukianga, I can't wait, just like I can't wait for me to learn. to learn and keep learning. Even for the energy, Ama Like, I feel that when I have a guest, normally... Like, when I was there, the host was really rude, I couldn't stand it, you know. I get to learn from them. And today on set, I have a guest. Her name is Eunice. Why A month ago, let me just take you back a bit. Not a month ago, but I think in August, Yeah, a month ago, or two months ago, yeah. I participated in NIDI, NIDI Health, NIDI, NCHI, NIDI. Yes. Cancer Health Initiative Charity Run yes and of course we were raising funds to help cancer patients survivors beyond the treatment most of the times we help them get treated but we forget and of course they need something they need Of course I'm recovering, I need to pay rent, I need to buy food, so the run was to raise funds to help them beyond and during that time I met with several people, of course, cancer survivors, cancer different stories from patients, and then I met Why The founder Nana introduced me to Unis. Unis is our guest today. and since it's October, October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, I decided, how about putting Unis in the studio? Yes. then unis to appear Auntie, the story is yours. And that's why today we have UNIS in Studio UNISA Santi Sana. Thank you. and welcome very much Thank you Please Hello, I am a professional translator. Let's begin. My name is Unis Wambua. Therefore. Unis Wambua is a breast cancer survivor. This is my 11th year since diagnosis, and it has been a journey. 11th year Wow. So, I don't know where to start, but I'd love for you to take us back to when... Like when you're diagnosed with needing treatment for breast cancer, What stage was it, how was it, when was it, the story, yeah. It's arawidłow Because now we are 11 years later, But you can start with the diagnosis. When I was diagnosed with cancer, I had just finished breastfeeding my youngest son. One by one, step by step, We were on our way from going from going. So I was coming from coming from coming from The doctor said that I had mastitis. Therefore, from being from from from from At the same time in the midst of the storm, At that time, the people were leaving. Therefore, from comingensemble to the mka mba, Thus, the price is very high for such a large chair. You're close to your goal... Hiyo ni bari na mastitis. Mamadika comes from somewhere else. Kukua, kukua, is it really a heavy burden for the gourd? What is the correct answer for question 4? 4 pieces The most important thing is to be kind. I have never seen such a beautiful child, not even in five years. The nyonyeshe was just a big person who happened to go to school. Okay, okay. So you still had milk. Mm. Okay. So when you're about to face the storm, know that the difficulties ahead are just beginning. Okay. So I went to the hospital, and they gave me that medicine, I took the medication for a while. Milk was gone, so I thought I was okay, but deep down in my mind, I could feel a lump in my right breast, but I assumed it was because The doctor had said, "Oh, well, I'm okay to go," so I continued with life. So after about one year, I realized that the lump was growing and growing. and growing, and during the elections of, was it 2017, during the vote, that during your vote It hurt. So the breast became painful. The end of the line when I was hit by a bullet. Press the button to ring the bell. So now when it became painful, And I've been dealing with this thing now for part of 2015, 2016. Now we are in 2017. Two years. Almost two years. That's like two years. Yes, truly yes. So now, I've taken some painkillers. The pain wasn't going away. So I finally went to the hospital. So I still went back to the same hospital because that's where my NHIF would then cover me. But by good luck and bad luck, when I went there, The ultrasound machine was not working. So they referred me to a hospital located in Kitengela. So I went to Kitengela, the sonographer I found in Kitengela, had the ultrasound, and now... From his facial expressions, I could tell that something was wrong. Yes, I will throw it. So where is the payroll from? ultrasound, you wrote a report and told me Mama when you take this report to the doctor who sent you this thing, it looks suspicious for cause when you Take it back to him. Just make sure you follow. Wake up on treatment I think at that time I did not really understand what the impact of that statement was. Because now, when I went back to the hospital, I was told the results look suspicious for cancer. So I'm supposed to have a biopsy. In fact, they wanted to admit me that day. But I told them I had left my children in the house. And there was no other person. So they give me about two days, I'll prepare them and then go back to the hospital now. So I went back home. I communicated with the kids that I will not be available for a while. Got someone to stay with them and went back to the hospital. I was admitted for about two or three days. They performed a biopsy. So I was told to go home now and come back later for my results. So I went back home. After an admission of two or three days, I returned to my house. I stayed for like, because they had said The results will be available in two weeks. So I waited for the results. After about two weeks, they called me. I was called from the hospital. I was told my results are available and it is very urgent. So I should just make sure to go for the results that day. So in fact I went for my results Got my results And I was told I have breast cancer. In fact, they were telling me right now to start planning. about how to perform a mastectomy What stage was it? At that time, I didn't know the stage. At that specific time. But now, you know how they're telling me niende nitoleo matiti, Such stories. I went numb. And told them to give me time to think it over. So I collected my results and returned to the house. Is there someone you're telling about this? I didn't tell anyone. I didn't tell anyone. And don't just tell anyone because I'm just going to the hospital. And in fact, even my husband, I told him I'm just going to be in the hospital. There's a procedure that I'm supposed to follow to do in the hospital and I'll be back So I did not tell And I didn't take it seriously I never thought it was anything serious. And in fact, nobody followed up on what actually happened. So now No one has asked about those two days lately Were you there when it happened? Siku, in fact, it was like, I had a day just like today, I was admitted in the afternoon, and they performed the procedure in the evening. I spent a day in the hospital, and I was discharged on the third day. Even your partner didn't ask you to go to the hospital? Okay. So, now I'm back at the house, I have my results, I have cancer, and I just kept the results. With all this information, I am convinced. So I kept the results. And in fact stayed with them for about 4 to 5 months. You knew? Four to five months. Without telling anyone at all? Four to five months. With the pain? Are you feeling pain in your knee? I was on painkillers. So I now realized the incision they had made when removing the biopsy At the end of using this. Therefore, that one was not placed. Therefore, therefore, therefore, by using it quickly, Many things to know about the history of the country. Therefore, therefore, rush to the big one. In fact, I had never interacted with anybody. who had gone through cancer I had heard it from afar, but I had never interacted with it. And here it is, mine right now. E, so now, with this sudden rush, sales are starting to decline, I called my sister. I have a younger sister. Come home. Ika is tired. So she was like, "Your kitchen is looking great." E, it's your fifth night. Nika told her, I thought this thing was something temporary. So now when I told my sister, she informed everyone, and now we're not starting. In fact, we consulted with about five oncologists before. In fact, I remember that day you mentioned was Sunday. At the time of his hospitalization, The one I found, just tell him, Even if you bring more doctors, it won't make any difference. When I saw that picture, I just couldn't help but say, This thing is definitely suspicious to us. Oh, you know, we consulted about five oncologists before Sasa. We opted for treatment. After that, we conducted several other tests. We performed several scans. We did several, and we conducted tests that cost us around 200,000. It was a test after the MRI scan, CT scan. We conducted tests that cost us around 200,000. Then we settled on a doctor at Nairobi Hospital. That's where I received my treatment. So the treatment process began with that, which is now six, Seven months later, we began with a mastectomy, In fact, I was stage 2B; we started with a mastectomy. After the mastectomy, we gave the wound time to heal. After the healing, I underwent six and a half cycles of chemotherapy. After that, I underwent 25 cycles of radiotherapy, And then after that, I was put on hormonal therapy. Now we are talking about the year 20. 2020 All of this has been happening from 2017 all the way to. 2018 In fact, for the chemotherapy, I used to undergo chemotherapy. I rest for three weeks. I'm doing another round of chemotherapy. I rest for three weeks. I'm doing another round of chemotherapy. So all this process here. All that confusion. Yeah, got it, E. I know now what we started; it was continuous, it was ongoing. So from now, 2017, to 2018, we completed the treatment. Now what remained was hormonal therapy. And I'm still on hormonal therapy. Sorry, I don't understand. Please clarify. For the past 11 years. Now there's something unique unfolding through your journey. You are able to talk to people. There are things you have learned through your journey. So umenia, uliniambia, and I think this is where. There are things I've seen, like when I happened to meet a certain person, I am just like this and like this, I'd love for you to tell me some of the lessons. And I love how you've summarized it. Naju's story is long. It's a long story. And my story is long. We will meet at the bridge tomorrow. But the lessons you taught me. Throughout my cancer journey, I learned So many things. Because when I was diagnosed with cancer, My partner right now is my kids' father. He was the first person to tell me that cancer is a disease that you cannot be cured of cancer. And once you are diagnosed with cancer, you die. So he was among the very first people to discourage me from going to treatment. And in fact he insisted on that point that when I start treatment he won't be part of the journey. And in fact, when I started treatment, he packed up and left. I'm so sorry. It's life. Now the next call, and sometimes I sit down and ask myself whether people understand what cancer is. therefore If personally, I am someone who has attended school, I am a graduate, I am a biochemist by profession, and I have worked in the pharmaceutical industry. for about 20 years, and did not truly understand the impact of cancer, I still believe that there are so many people out there who have nothing to do with cancer. Cancer is a disease that comes with many symptoms. Many people are uninformed. In fact, if I had found my father just as I did, I would have gone too. Just listen carefully, you have a tumor. And one thing I've learned over the years now, When there is a problem with your body, it will always communicate. And now one thing I tell people: if you have some pain, Do not take over-the-counter painkillers. At the hospital, there is a quiet room where one can hear nothing. And if one doctor tells you that you are fine, and your conscience still tells you that you're not okay, seek a second opinion, seek a third opinion Seek a fifth opinion, compare the notes of what you are being told. Because cancer is deadly, I say cancer is a disease, for example, breast cancer. There are so many different types of breast cancer. There are those with big eyes, and there are those with small eyes. There's a double negative, there's a triple negative. That is, cancer, like breast cancer, is not just one disease. There are several diseases. And now whatever treatment you receive depends on the specific type. the stage you have been diagnosed with. Let me ask you, during that 2017, did you work? Yeah, I was a blight. I've said I'm a biochemist by profession. What happened after you started treatment? Because three weeks of chemotherapy came. Three weeks, and I'm assuming there are all these side effects. Yeah, because the worst side effect of chemo is hair loss. That I had was point number one, nyele ilimuagika. The head is cleaner than the body. All the people were gathered around the fire. The next chemotherapy session was The other side effects were Unaara A tapeworm causes constipation. So you can't even eat. And now you know everything—I used to work for an Asian company. So by the time I was in my third, my fourth chemotherapy session, the employer was like, The employer felt that I was abandoning him. So they terminated my employment. So now I'm unemployed, I'm husbandless. I'm supposed to continue with treatment. And you need money for treatment. So what did you do? It was your sister who came in. Your family who came in? Do you have children? My family came in. Or was the partner taking care of the children? He went and went. He vanished. Didn't bother to find out I was being treated and didn't bother to find out that all these kids went to school. So now what was, so who was? My family was very supportive. We are five siblings. In fact, my younger sister is the second born. Here's our firstborn brother; I'm the second one to be born. Then a sister follows me, and then the young people behind. They arrived in full force. Because maybe sometimes I say, if it weren't for them, Maybe I couldn't be there. Because for cancer we spent a considerable amount of money. So far, I think we've spent about 8 million on treatment. Yes. Because after the worst part of it So, as those books are on the shelf, Wähu As soon as I finished Where is the K-Pist? I don't know where the K-Pist is. depends on the vij TH Therefore, I see the truth clearly Tomorrow morning So, sell it now Wako lae We can Plus we can Wako Quranisha You've walked through that journey. You've said most, Mfanyaji Of the people... what they miss is the support and... and I'm sorry, like... Yeah. What, when, when, when do cancer patients come to you? with all these things that have been diagnosed with cancer Cancer is a thing that terrifies people, and I think... Cancer is a disease without a definition. Doctors will tell us anything. Therefore, it will be cancer. When it comes to others, Softie knows exactly 0 In the morning, the sun rises, and in the evening, the sun sets. Why then? Cancer is a disease without a definition. Cancer is what they were talking about. Cancer is about. This is what the doctor is telling you This is what your friends are telling you This is what the family is telling you But But you yourself, like Jonah, what are you telling yourself? Because there are people who will tell them they have cancer. And that is the end of the world for them. Shocking news ever. He, the person who was about to die, has made a recovery. You stayed for five months. What was going through your mind when you saw me for the first time? My father was there. I was going about my normal life. And feeling the pain and taking the painkillers. You didn't look like it was the end of the world. In fact, mimi si kuwai chukulia kanza kama big deal. And in fact, another people are missing now, especially in our hospitals when we got. Sita is public as private. Juu, from me, I want one of the best hospitals, as they say they provide care. But I still didn't get anything related to counseling. Because the only thing that I saw You have been diagnosed with breast cancer Mimi netakotibu Then I would be sleeping Mimi sinjai fanyiwa counselling I came to know about counseling. Very late in life Even after I had finished with treatment Which one do you feel has helped you the most? I know at least When you receive counseling You are capable of processing what you are going through. Cancer is a disease that comes with a great deal of emotional strain, spiritual strain Because you sit down and ask God, why me? Why did only this one fail? When cancer patients come to you Now, now you're a counseling student. In fact, now, I have worked in the pharmaceutical industry; I am a biochemist by profession. So I've worked in pharma for the longest. So now, when cancer came calling, I sat down and asked myself, because In the lab, as you, in the lab, I worked in pharma for some time. So what? My main work in the lab was analyzing medicines. the content, the percentage, those things So when cancer came, and then I got laid off. After treatment, I tried looking for a job. But most of the companies, The pharmaceutical companies in Kenya are Asian. So I went to the person who had written the referee's report for the week, What's wrong with you, Filani, Filani? My child has cancer. When I go, there will be no cancer. He gave me only the money that he knew I needed. So now it is our third venture in Asia. Cancer is a disease that carries a significant stigma. Oh my God. Cancer is a disease. In fact, nakumbuka, I missed my mother before she passed away. They were going to a place where people were. I did the introduction. My daughter has already fallen ill with fever. So imagine that stigma. Me, I don't know. It was a place where I used to live. Hata people, your friends, as they might ask about Eunice. To all the organizations of the sick. The premium zizako ziko paid off. Such things. So, cancer is a disease that comes with a lot of stigma. So, I'm currently in the middle of finishing the treatments. Good morning, Lord. In fact, I was on crutches for three years. So, sasa unajua chemo affects the bones. So, the bones. In fact, for the first year or so, Mungu hadn't even appeared. It is not there. The customer is asking about all the coupons available. So. In fact, I had come to terms with the reality that sitawaitembea tena. But the orthopedic surgeon Mwenya was right there, I could see him. haka niyambia kama tunaweza simamisha hizo omono kwa muda wa kipya, The evidence begins to show signs of being valid. So that's the one I should go to, I see the door, My knee hurts all the time, especially when walking. So I've been keeping the fire going for a while. In fact, the photo was taken just now. I'm tired of going to the pigwai every month An X-ray shows only the bone at the site of the injury. Sasa sasa unaojulikana amekuwa na dawa kwa kiasi cha 3-4 mwezi. The sun rises So I've been taking the medicine for about 6 months So, the man with the wound is still bleeding, and I'm about to apply medicine. You know, I feel like you were very Disciplined, and the doctor said That is, as long as there is a letter that has been sent The first time it happened, I was scared for 5 months. As if from the very beginning of this January, wanting to be calm You are so consistent In fact, the oncologist I ultimately chose is the one I'm currently seeing. My work will be completed soon. The words that I have spoken are the ones I have said Your job will be to prepare medicine and sleep. In fact, at the start of my cancer treatment, I weighed 55 kg. By the time I was finished, I weighed 85 kilograms. So, people reducing their mini kilos. There is no day without its troubles, even in times of peace. There is nothing. So, yes, it sounds so, you're so disciplined. Sasa unajua, my driving force was. I have a husband who has been with me for over 20 years. I have given birth to a child. I have three children whom I have nursed. I adopted two children. My youngest child was the smaller one. So I was about to die, the country asked me, I said, I won't die yet. My child doesn't even know his mother was dead. Your kids or yours Another thing I was asking myself, Aya sawa nikona awa watoto wote. If I die, my people will take my place. Others will come to me as well. That was my driving force. That was my purpose To be able to work, there must be work. I have four grandchildren. The time we will meet But I have four grandchildren. What have they done, and what, and what, and what? Niko and two others have done finance. They have a BBA. Bachelor of Business Administration and Information Technology Niko the chef Two who have done that deed, I have five children. Wawili adopted, and then there is. So the girls took business courses, I'm a young IT professional, and I'm also a chef. Who was able to help? What. What are you doing, my friend? Kira that. How are you able to, I'm just curious I know your sister was helping, the society was helping. Ivo here. Ivo here. NHIF? I know one thing I tell people: NHIF, if I don't get my benefits, I'll be in trouble. Back then, NHIF approved just one chemotherapy treatment for $170,000. And in fact, I'm still on hormonal treatment, na share in a lipa. You know, many people will say that the share function is not working. It depends on the experience, you know. When Ukisha goes on that journey, especially the first one, you'll see. Yes, it is a government matter. It may not pay a lot of money, but it does pay. So that was partly NHIF, partly very much assistance? Mini helped me. By the way, The year I was born, we were using NHIF. To the child... Something happened yesterday. In fact, I remember, those years we were traveling If you want medicine, you must pay two years in advance. Two years ago, when I was paying the one who had a debt, The one who was left behind there. I went on strike so I wouldn't have to pay for a while. When you return, you will receive a benefit that exceeds what you had before. That money was already paid. So finally, the tutu was removed. I want to know your children, What did Ninini uniquely do for the people? Like, are you in a position to share? Patient, He is the child of that child. Sasa unajua, especially your own adopted one, We had sponsors. So the sponsors continued supporting. He will be waiting for them when they finish school My siblings supported me. I was just about to leave when I saw you. And the few assets that I had In fact, I saw the few Which part do you feel like a cancer patient? In case we have them I don't know what you want at this moment, but please, let me help you now. And leave the money out I know One thing about cancer Cancer is a very lonely disease. Lonely Lonely disease Because people will come I was about to go I'm not going there. Your fault is clear. And now when you are left alone You only think about your troubles I will go there, I will wait, I will stay You only think about your troubles And now the worst part of it In fact, doctor, you're treating me like an object What do you mean? I see it as an object Your grandmother has an interest in you as a person. Your interest is in the disease within you His interest in you is to heal the disease in you. In fact, hakuwambi angi, hata kama utahambiwa the side effect, The one who will be left behind. The psychological injury. That's why you might need a caregiver, a person like you. Because you've said it's lonely. Cancer is a very lonely disease. No mistake, no mistake, like no mistake if we tell people. What I tell people is, "He who has the knife is the one who did it." Not unless you experience your own safari will you see and understand. On your safari, who was the one who got attacked? Who will be our leader? Ninini, unafeel tunaachafanyanga makosa? Walking the journey with them. Look here, you see someone like me. As much as my siblings were there. I'm taking my little child to the hospital. The fool who finished the hospital, What did mother ask? When will we go to the hospital? Let's go to the hospital we were heading to. We arrived late, we were given breakfast. I arrived for lunch. Food or drink, Lying down at a place, going, sleeping. So yeah, Kwake is coming back to the village. It was fun for you. But not everyone today is someone who has wealth today. It's your privilege to go to Sachi Hospitals. There are hospitals where even a woman who dies gives birth. Yeah, yeah, don't do our work. So if you support a person, you send them to the hospital. I can't even remember one of the five days, let alone die. due to your injection That day I woke up. I can't drink coffee, I'm dizzy, as if I've been hit by a blow, You're mine, you must be mine, you're mine, you must be mine. At this point, first of all, you have constipation that has worsened. Are we going to eat? A little while. I didn't cook. Are you going to the beach? I am tired of water, I'm exhausted. I had to stay awake all night, The doctor was saying, "I will come tomorrow." So that day, I was so exhausted I even fell asleep on the way. I will notneider with you, and even if I were to speak, it would be nothing to me. So fortunately, unfortunately, my sister Akapiti. Agent, you're the one who left me. He was not taken to the hospital. I was admitted for a while. I was intubated. In fact, the water ran for 23 minutes. So it is a journey. Yes, you can; people will come and go. But you need that person who will be there for you. I know you've been suffering, I know you've been through pain. Because with cancer, especially after chemotherapy, It's true that there's water here, but you can't drink that liquid. Your body is weak. Your body is very weak. June, you are a cancer, and cancer treatment is extremely dangerous. So it kills both healthy cells and unhealthy cells. So you are left extremely weak. How have the past 11 years been for you ever since you finished? It has been a journey. It is not easy because now, when you finish treatment, You know, people expect you to shift back to where? Therefore. Back to normal. Back to normal. And in fact, people even stop asking how you're doing. Yeah, yes, I have my sibling, I have my friends, but Siwesi remember that day when the man was there You will be rewarded on the day of the festival, when you are rewarded. Uko Haji, I have arrived at Haji. They assume that juu will complete that comprehensive treatment. You're okay, and you're supposed to bounce back to life. to life And in fact, after some time, I had a fever, omono The one I was given immediately after the cancer treatment to prevent side effects. So in 2020, it turned out to be a very bad year. So in 2020 I had to undergo a hysterectomy. What is it? I examined the cervix, I examined the uterus, I examined the ovaries. It's bleeding there, that wound. Because of this hormone injection? Due to the hormonal injection and the hormonal tablets I was taking. So it has been a journey. So see that you like mtu upona na tunasa how your story has been. How do you forget? In fact, I had that too. I was kind of thinking maybe Nikisha would finish the chores, My life will return to being happy. You never know when you'll end up back where you started. It has been a journey. But the river flows. Yeah, with time. Kwanza has been known as a type of kapusi for some time. Then after that, sasa nikaweka nitu. In fact, this is my natural hair. That is your hair. To the person who is watching Who is afraid of going to the hospital? I know and I understand. Your own story about cancer. Your stigma. As you've said. What can we possibly tell them? And I'm glad you spoke with those cancer patients. As if you're going through the process of encouraging them and telling them, but when I saw him today and heard his voice, cancer is a serious illness James has been in pain for some time now and is suffering. What I can say is, just as we do advocacy, we tell people to go for screening, and many people fear screening, but when you factor The fact that currently, 11 women die every day in Kenya. Due to either breast cancer or cervical cancer. And those are the cancers that can be easily diagnosed. And one thing I've learned over the years, Early diagnosis can save your life. To say me like with cervical cancer. Cervical cancer is caused by the human papillomavirus. Human papillomavirus is a virus that young girls are given. Injection for prevention. But most parents want to be told what to do In family planning, their children are few. But in countries like Argentina, where it had been lulled into complacency, They have already eradicated cervical cancer. Because when you eliminate the human papillomavirus, Now you can't get cancer. So tell me what I can tell people, My mother, who knows, has a child aged between 10 and 14 years. Kitambo was a double injection, sikuizi is just one. What is the girl doing, and what is she doing something about? The other thing, those who are at least 35 years old and above, Wande screening. Since screening is the only way cancer can be detected early, And then you are treated. Many people say that nothing I don't know scares me. But that's your ideology. When it comes, and another thing I tell people, When does cancer begin? So, so it is God. So, so it is God. Therefore, that is God. So, so it is God. Therefore, that is God. So, so it is God. Therefore, that is God. Therefore, that is God. Therefore, that is God. Therefore, that is God. So, so it is God. Therefore, that is God. So, so it is God. Why So that now you are in a position to go to the doctor and know what is not taking place. So cancer is real. There are so many myths and misconceptions associated with cancer. Yes. Especially when you go to the churches. First, the reason God is angry with you is because of what you have done. Cancer is a disease like any other. And the worst part about cancer is that cancer is a disease that can affect anyone. It doesn't matter your age, it doesn't matter your financial status. So it is not a disease for the young, it is not a disease. For the middle-aged, it is not a disease of the elderly. It is a disease that destroys everyone it touches. So when people go for screening and someone finds out, do you just in case In any case, you are able to notice the change and go to the hospital. In case you go to the hospital, One doctor telling you that you are not okay. And your conscience is telling you that you're not okay. Consult another one and another one until you reach a diagnosis. If it is necessary to cure cancer. Just any other illness. Guys, I hope you've heard what Eunice is saying. What is the one thing you see your patients come in with? Oh, I was just about to leave, and I also have the radio with me. What? Wanna go? I know it, in our local, in our, I don't know, our local translation, ama, ni hite nini. Mostly people listen to the radio for entertainment. Yes, yes, yes. Kuchoma cells. Kuchoma cells And many people take it literally. So many people have come to the hospital, you've been diagnosed with HIV, The doctor told me to do the check-up via radio, someone else. And Pia, the other quacks they used to call us. He made a mistake, it was a remedy. The heart of a certain person, The Fulani medicine is a remedy, it cures the illness. Herbs. Herbs. Kansa is indicating what kind of herbs, the type of herbs. Kansa is a lethal disease. So it requires aggressive treatment such as radiation and chemotherapy. Many people were afraid when he said that it would happen. But the truth of the matter is, I am living a testimony of what You did for me, You gave me a radio. I have only one thing to say to you, and that is what I'm thinking. But that is the truth of the matter. So, in my opinion, India is also a country full of wise people. I was diagnosed in Kenya, and I was treated in Kenya. In fact, I remember that I started the journey years ago. I was told to go to South Africa for a PET scan. But currently in Kenya, there are so many PET scans and a PET scan It is the only issue, and it scans the entire body for any cancer cells. Thus, the doctor is able to understand exactly what he is truly dealing with. So in Kenya, there is a reliable treatment. You know, the only other thing we can do as a nation, because the cancer burden is extremely high. And me, what I see the government emphasizing. Why Indeed, However, Indeed, Yes. I've talked to people about cancer, all. And the other way of doing it is empowering the survivors. When you empower the survivors and enable them to communicate with the population or to the community, when you are taught something by a person who has gone through it It sinks better. When a person is present, one hears only the sound. That person is indeed the one. Hello there. So, the best way the government might possibly do it, It is to empower the survivors so that they can teach the community. Because in this time and era, there are still people in the locality. who do not know about cancer And who doesn't know, and now the worst part of it, Indeed, there are so many cancer centers currently in Kenya. But I, I'm from Machakos. From time to time, I go to the Machakos Cancer Center. Yes, it is there. But there are so many pieces of equipment required for treatment that are missing. So many drugs are missing. So, if it were possible to declare cancer a national disaster, There might possibly be some sponsors who could fund this treatment. and make the treatment more affordable for people. Why Kitambo and a NHIF. just so The treatment was a bit difficult, let's say I had a hard time. I will deposit my money, I will transfer it, and I will use my spouse's money. kama Today, I don't even know what's happening with our government with Because they're saying 800,000 for cancer treatment. Yes. And that 800,000 is certainly not enough. So you're pointing out that there are still some problems, In fact, MTU Napata Anatumia earns 100,000 in a week. Why use 100,000 for many, when using 800,000 for many? Thus, those 800,000 were used for many purposes. Therefore, those 800,000 were used for many purposes. Therefore, those 800,000 are used for many purposes. Therefore, those 800,000 are used for many purposes. Therefore, those 800,000 are used for many purposes. Therefore, those 800,000 are used for many purposes. Therefore, those 800,000 are used for many purposes. Yes, the people are suffering. People are suffering due to cancer. And now the other thing, after you've finished the treatment now, No one is willing to hire you. They think you are a liability. And even the insurance companies in Kenya, They tell you that we can't insure you; you're a liability. If I had taken the wrong turn, an accident would have occurred. His heart is heavy, his spirit broken, We were talking about insurance being a business, so now when do they expect that? So the stigma about cancer is everywhere, it's everywhere and that is the reason why you find that most of the people Those who have gone through cancer don't talk about it, Yet we have so many survivors; we only hear about the deaths. In fact, statistics show that, Kenya records 44,000 diagnoses every year and 29,000 die when Do the 27,000 go see, are they still here in the population? In fact, there is another forum I attended, and the guest speaker He was saying that in Kenya, we only have about 100,000 survivors. And when I check my stats, I'm in about five support groups. and this supporting group has a thousand As over a thousand survivors. Personally, I know about 5,000 people and I don't interact with them. So survivors are there. That forum, that experience has hasn't been opened for them to talk about it. And in fact, your statement is that of a survivor. No one wants to succeed at your expense. What a pity. To So, what did you say yesterday evening? Hello, you're confusing yourself with your own confusion. But it's a matter of urgency, you understand. You see what you're doing—you're helping others. Just as I was employed, so too was he. Yes. I was promoted to the position of chief, which was my first degree. Now when I fell ill, I used to ask myself now, I saw the God who created me, I'm trembling, what can I do with this? But in the course of life, when I meet someone, Talk to that person at least. because even Saa Hii Miu, even Ushagu, even where? Those who know, let's say your person has been diagnosed with... the thief, may he be caught by someone Matibambu, I'll go talk to them. and out of going and talking To them, maybe I'll get some money. out of it, and now it gives my life meaning and I'm able to support that person because Ukisha ona ule mwenye ametibiwa Then I'm here, too. You're also going to the hospital, aren't you? Now, as we head toward the forest, the trees are already beginning to thin out. Why There's a lot of life after cancer. As you're saying, I'd be more... Wanting to listen to someone, I don't walk through this journey as opposed to MTU HAME What did you all eat? Yes. On the way to the market, it's possible When I told him earlier, he said this one was broken or I must have heard it wrong. I really want to listen to Eunice more than So, shall I turn on the radio? He, do it Today they're coming, tell them to leave Of course, sisemi told me about the incident, but it came from Eunice. We can make it more Positively Who is that person? We will proceed. Thank you so much, Eunice. I feel, boy, the nation has really let you down. What am I like I don't even know My life is one day at a time And in fact currently Minasoma psychology So you went back to school. Regarding my interactions with the community I felt that I needed skills To talk to them To guide them. To learn the ethics of telling the truth to people. So I'm back to class. Despite the fact that after chemotherapy, some people experience chemotherapy brain. Chemo brain is a condition in which you experience significant memory problems and forgetfulness. I was about to speak when the phone rang. But he didn't say anything. Uta, why are you asking the children where my phone is? But if it's not a plum tree. But despite that, I've been in school since last year, and by next year, April, I'll be finishing my diploma. Despite the fact that yes, I could have qualified to pursue a master's degree, but I felt I needed an answer on the scale. So I decided to pursue a diploma. I love how, I love your mindset. I love your, like your, You really haven't taken it seriously, as people see cancer is such a big deal. You are a regular guest, just like any other. Take the medicine, we will be fine as long as we are treated, I did it, and we keep moving forward with life. You know, life belongs to God; He is the giver of life. and as long as you are still here, It means that there is something God wants you to do. So it is up to you to indulge yourself and communicate with God, What is it that you want me to do? Mother What should I do, my friend, if I want to help you? On the contrary, that purpose is not achieved It becomes your passion, and you give it your all. That's true So you discover your passion through this journey And now you're giving back to society. I say that cancer was my turning point. Because when I used to work in the pharmaceutical industry I was about to go to work and then I fell ill. On the bench with test tubes, titrators, and machines But you know, at least now, life is going well. Because now, they won't let me go back there. So, Sasa, on the money god, why? Sasa nitakuwa nakaa kwa nyumba, nikilia, oh, oh, oh, oh. I can't. You must strive to do your best in life, because as long as you are still here, It's good to do something about it. That's how I live my life. Because life belongs to God. God is the one who gives, and God is the one who takes away; even when He takes, you still see His hand. It means there is still something he wants you to do. And now one thing I've realized, especially upcountry, That is, people believe cancer is a curse. People believe that cancer is a curse. I mean, when you hear people talking about cancer, You'll be left wondering. Where do these people come from? Lakini me, I understand It's just a lack of information People don't know The task is many people's way of understanding the truth. And that's why we will keep on You, me, her, them They will keep on sharing the Like raising awareness Advocating Like championing for You know As much as you are now v4 v4 We have beautiful stories of survivors like Eunice. But now you know Not everyone who dies has been diagnosed with cancer. In fact, I have friends who were diagnosed at stage 4. And they are still here three, four, five years later. And they are not dead; they are still here. So what am I saying? Your day will come, and you will die. As long as your day has not arrived, life goes on despite Ume-diagnose cancer stage 1, stage 2, stage 3. A stage is nothing but a number. Yeah Thank you so much, Eunice. Thank you so much for coming to my show. Thank you for sharing your story even now. So bravely I I know it's been a journey. The story of Najua Umei summarize yako yote But thank you for even what you're doing Sure, that's my own opinion right here Ita saidia mamawawili watatu I know there's only one person who has given you strength. As for the radio, it's going to be fine. Like, you just have to keep fighting. You refuse to die. Yeah. You refuse to die. Yeah. And you fight for yourself and for your friends and for your children and for your life. Talk to that woman. Talk to that woman who is in the stage you were in back in 2017. Hmm. That is the message, that has arrived, that is the letter, that is the news. Ebu Sae, give some encouragement to that woman, she's been through five trials. One day, one money, work is done. All that, all those things, zimemwagika, kume nyesha, kume. Me, what I can say, cancer is a journey. And that is one thing doctors don't tell us. In fact, the doctor tells you, When you are about to lose your temper, control yourself. Do radiotherapy. In fact, the years of the room we were staying in were the ones we were told about. And then you take medicine for five years. Depending on the type of cancer you have. The one who brings people together is a leader. But cancer is not a forfeit. Uki-diagnose the treatment you're receiving cancer that one can get. But that's too much trouble. You are the one who is responsible. Just give it your best. They have money. She was very tired. The proxy mission to the government, but it's my experience, Shia, I'm so sorry. I completely, completely understand. There are those organizations that help people and provide treatment. It's just one by one. So, people went to the hospital, underwent screening, and early detection of cancer was achieved. Look for him online, and you'll find someone who knows him through the grapevine. Tell your story, pick up your phone, and call him. In fact, two days ago, he was hit by a stone, Nikon a patient, box here, box here. And I'm very generous with information, I would guide you regardless of where in Kenya you are, as long as When you are diagnosed with cancer, Don't keep it to yourself; talk about it. The more you keep talking, the more you keep leaving. People were talking. On the day of the celebration, people were singing. When the day of death comes, people will speak. So don't pay attention to what people are saying about it. At the hospital, we live, we suffer, we endure life. Thank you. Thank you. Guys, those are my closing remarks as well. Thank you for watching. See you next week for another episode. Bye.