Stand Up For Mental Health

Welcome to Silence Reflection. Welcome very much very much very much. We're just going to do a few things. Tuna peana hope. Just as we encourage each other not to give up. Please. Always stay hopeful. You lose, yo. And then be mindful of others. Be kind to one another. Look at your neighbor. The Muslim is on the stairs. You are the one who is tired. Ivo here. Just be mindful. And thank you so much, everyone, for watching last week's episode. Thank you very much. Wams was so amazing. Personally, I am nothing but dust. I'd love to be her friend. Your faith was in you, my dear. I would love to be her close friend. Kuzi, that is, that is, it was just line motivation and encouragement after after after. And today I have another guest. I began with, God is giving me these people. I feel like my heart is heavy, not ordinary. Since it's October, it's also Mental Health Awareness Month. So we covered cancer, and now today we're discussing mental health. Today I'm not alone. I'm with Christine. Christine is a mental health advocate. Of course, atatuwamia his story, Stabbed at the beginning, we encourage. At the end of it all, I hope someone out there understands what I've been through. If you don't help yourself, then help someone else, whichever way. Thank you so much, Christine. I love my guests. To I only want to introduce you a little bit before. My name is Christine Mbima. However, Yes, I am an environmentalist and a community development expert. Currently working as a teacher. And I have lived experience with a mental condition known as bipolar mood disorder. Which inspired me to... Yes. fight for the rights of those with mental illness And uh, that's why I'm a mental health advocate. Thank you so much for coming, teachers have a very special place in my heart That is, the work you people have done is only for God, so He alone should be rewarded. So thank you so much for coming. I want you to tell me only what to wear. by the time you're getting to become a mental health advocate, I assume it's either Yuu yuu yuu had an experience, like, on, on, an experience, something truly Kutu became a mental health champion. I don't know what it is. So let me just say my life experiences are what shaped who I am right now, the kind of things that I advocate for right now what is mental health because of the kind of stigma that I have gone through So at first I was like a normal child but what I realized was that I was so introverted, I'm the kind of person who couldn't relate to my peers So people are hanging out, the teenagers are going out. For me, I'm following my mom wherever she goes. For Chama, even people are going for camps. The ones for Sunday school—I'm following my mom around. She was a Sunday school teacher, following her around all the time. and I started teaching Sunday school at a very tender age of 13 years so it continued like that in high school there was There was no drama. So on campus. Where my mental health struggles began It was when I lost my firstborn son. So I got pregnant during my third year on campus. The story of the guy Akaruka. So, under the stress, Ilianzia, but it wasn't anything. At that time, it didn't raise any eyebrows. But the moment I went to deliver, it turned out to be a distressing delivery. And the child was deprived of oxygen and was on oxygen for about two weeks. So I had exams waiting for me. It was really difficult for me. Because I had imagined people just delivering, They breastfeed their child. At that time, I didn't even know what breastfeeding is. Because the child lacked oxygen, even the sucking reflexes were absent. So it was really tough. The child was on formula during that time. And it really took a toll on me. So, what kind of people are the Jabote? Year 2010. I was around 23. Why So I imagine, umepata mtu hii, this person doesn't exist, you're taking your exams. I'm taking my exams. Are you still an introvert? Yes, still introverted. Yes. Alafu, the guy, is out of the picture. It was so hard on me and my family. So we stayed in the hospital for three weeks and then went back home. And unfortunately, the child passed away five weeks later. And that's how I was diagnosed with postpartum depression. which is where it's a feeling of overwhelming sadness, mostly for mothers, new mothers, simply because expectations are not being met. Now, for me, I had assumed I would have a normal baby. The guys had gone for attachment at that time. I was the one who went to the attachment. I was just in the house. Charlie, I thought maybe you were going to help me out. He's out of the picture. It was so hard for me at that particular time. So I remember even washing a cup was a problem. Your thoughts have wandered off course. Even washing a cup, hygiene, Doing chores around the house was so difficult for me. And I had, it's like my parents and also my siblings, They had to take care of me throughout that time. You can imagine. A child, the time when I had a child, When I was young, after the child died, Mimi badu nabaki kama sijielewi at that particular time. I remember I was so suicidal at that particular time. And by the way, I happened to overdose. I really felt so bad, as if life had lost all meaning. So the guys went for the attachment, Christine has just arrived home, and then everything resumed. Yeah, I still went back to school, things started getting better because... My mom took me to therapy. and also spiritual intervention along with medication. I started feeling better. Now there's a twist of events. The final semester on campus. So I went well, I did two more semesters. Now it's my final semester on campus in 2011. That's when things took a different turn. Here I was, depressed. I have lost interest in life. So I went from being a church girl to a party girl. The dressing changed. You just know how party girls are. From Monday to Monday, I am always available. I was not accompanied by anyone. I started by hanging out with those guys at the Rui Campus. I had never set foot in a club. At that time, I think I tried out most of the clubs there. I will walk, I will walk. So I remember, the time I passed primary school, my mom just told me, Here are the school fees. If you feel like... You want to pay, pay. When you hear the call, eat. And I did the latter. In the space of one hour, I managed to pay all the school fees. I went and bought some things. In my mind, I had told myself, ah, By the way, he's in his fourth year; normally, they get jobs. So we end up, my friend, life will get better, you will get a job. Life will be good. Just remember, I'm partying. Yes, I got a job, a very nice, well-paying job. But now with partying, in the morning I go to work feeling terrible due to a hangover. I can't even do much. Good people are hard to find, and bad ones are easy to dress. That was a matter of job ethics. I lost the job shortly after. I've wasted the school fees. At a hostel, those few days we had at that particular time. So I was staying at a friend's place. Lectures are irregular. You don't need to register, you just need to pay the fees. So it was really difficult. My mom, your time. So what happened? The day I went to my party as usual was on a Saturday. I had things to do, come Sunday morning, Mini kajambia, sinapita hapo church, siningie tu. Who knows where the guts of that person are located? That's why I came in with my funny outfit. So I never saw, I made sure Sijaunana na Mamu. So, my pastor is the one who saw me. Hakaambia, Mama, by the way, I've seen your daughter. She's not okay, this girl. She's probably using drugs. Maxi, what will you do? Take her to a psychiatric facility the next day so that she might receive a psychiatric evaluation. That was the first time I had set foot in a psychiatric facility. So Mom called me, oh by the way, Christine, come over. You've been so good to me. Where did Natika fall? Date. Shock me. I am going to the hospital. The psychiatrist is named Kanzar. But then you know you're absolutely crazy. You're doing hard drugs. I got so annoyed. Were you using drugs? No. Oh, you're just partying. Just partying. So, I'm like, what's this now? Translation mission: drugs. I'm not crazy. Look for the person who has that denial. Mimi zimu enda wazimu. What are you talking about? I walked out on them. So, let it continue like this. So, it's on, off, up and down, up and down. So, that went on for quite some time. And I happened to drop out of campus in 2011. Yes, last year. Yeah. And you see, I, all through campus, I was the one who was stopping in our class. Oh no. So, even my mom was that frustrated. You're really starting to sound like my kid, huh? Someone did something bad to my child. Now, what's this, eh? What's this now? What is she turning into? So, it was so difficult. So I can imagine your mom, throughout your life, you were a good child, He was a Sunday school teacher, he was a faithful and dedicated member of the group. like you've been this mommy's girl all along, until campus. Until campus. So why are you blaming the school? I was just saying that your child is the one I was expecting. What I did was deliver the child to you. Only the child's name is known. Look at you Right now, your classmates have graduated. And just imagine Siki's graduation Now I went And I danced like a madman Watuwa and graduate I love it when you see what happened. My mama's Shanga people are graduating Christine isn't saying anything about graduation. Siongei said anything about graduation, so I don't know what to do next. When I was going to camp, I went with my dad. What's happening, Kuliza? By the way, Christine, we have a semester. I will pay the school fees, I will take the exams. Why Why? So I had to disclose, your mini school fees. You can imagine the frustration on their faces. Yes. So it was, it was so bad. So Ikaendelea hivo on and off since 2011 up to 2015. That is why I am grateful to you. I mean, I feel down at times. I get so dirty even if I don't bathe for a whole month. Goodbye. That's depression for you. It was really bad. They will all write their test answers on the mother's paper. With the reckless behavior this one is displaying, Maybe Hata Hakona is a very sick man. I have lost hope in life. He checked all the tests, nothing. Of course, no problem at all. By this time, what's the matter with you? You're welcome. I will return. So, a certain doctor told us, by the way, Christine, uyu. Ana needs a man who is kind. If a mother dies, the father can have another child. Life is better on this other side. Yeah, even though he did. For one full year we were doing therapy. Hey, I'm feeling better. I have finished at school. And that was the time I became pregnant in 2013. Your life will continue, whether you're in school or not, I know what will continue. I am a graduate. I am a graduate. But it's also because I had an issue.annt I got into a fight with a certain guy. So, your time. I just meet random people, chalea na nikatia, Staki's story, just the facts, please. So that day, I happened to go to his room. My little sister, I've been waiting for you, I'm here too. Zika is showing up. I arrived, I got the beer, but there are still some guys. Zini kakunywa pombe ya wenye. The guy got mad. What I remember is that I was struggling on the cliff. Then he, alafu najo, he was an influential student leader. Akaita mob. I am tired, I am tired Then that's how Iyo Kesi Katoka is, he reached as far as the Senate. So when I arrived at the Senate, my file had been taken from the registry. So what exactly are you supposed to do? You can't graduate until you attend. a disciplinary hearing And that's the disciplinary hearing, na yoni lienda So fast forward, it was in 2015 that I lost touch with reality. Something we call psychosis So I remember that was the time Obama was in the country. And before that, I was going through such a difficult time. I was having relationship issues. I was juggling two jobs. I remember I hadn't slept for two weeks. Insomnia. That's also a sign of bipolar disorder. A warning sign So the time Obama was in the country Christine imagined She is a journalist at CNN. Sent on mission To cover the president So I just started talking about Obama. I started talking And I'm wearing my pajamas Sikuli, silali, siyogi, sifanyi chochote When I first spoke of the subu By June Where is our mother now? Hameenda lost her five keys What is this thing that you're burning? It was so difficult. Let the music dance, dance, dance, dance, dance. Like a home, like a madman. We, nikeyekwa tu kwa taksi and that's When he was admitted to a certain private hospital. That night, even sedating me was a problem. It's been two weeks already. How many people are affected by energy poverty? They tried to tie me down, wanted to restrain me, but I broke free. So I just saw, this is too much. And that's how I was referred to Mathare Hospital. So Mathare, here you come. I remember being told that there is That certain Mama Sijui, what was she known for? I was violent toward her. I was about to tell my own mother. So I was tied up. Christine did the things. Sorry, sorry. Do everything as if writing, as if you're calling those boys. How do you feel about making mistakes? As a person's house is to them, so is their heart; or their mind. Either let them join and do their own thing, or let them join and cause trouble. That's what we call impulsivity. At that time, be wise, my friend, do not do foolish things, Are you in your right senses, answer me, is this really right? Let's have a meeting. I really want to attend the meeting. I'm tired, I want to rest. Songa. Even if I were to die, I would still go forward, It's fine either way, whether you go with money or without money. At the hotel, you eat as if you're staying for free, without even paying money. So what condition is that? It's bipolar disorder. That one, you don't even think about. Sindoyo, it's impulsivity. Oh. Yeah. So I was saying, what happens, sasa sinikapele kwa madhari. So from there, the ukipele goes into that state, the strong room. Three days, you're injected. You sleep for three days straight. From there, as a result, I realized the truth about the ward's situation. Akili started running home. So it's like they forcibly slow you down. And that's how Sasa Nika Ingia Ward. I stayed there for about two weeks. At that particular time, The medicines I took, you know I was acting a certain way with a different kind of bipolar disorder altogether Because everything was extreme. So the medications they gave me were for bipolar I. Not bipolar 2. So I started drooling, I even forgot my name. As in so many things, memory was affected. so even my name I couldn't even remember, so I remember I was To Because cleanliness is next to godliness. A hand is a hand, for what it's worth. For lack of hands, for lack of hands. For lack of hands, for lack of hands. For lack of hands, for lack of hands. Yes. l For lack of hands, for lack of hands. For lack of hands, for lack of hands. The medications changed, and that's how the journey began. So let me ask you, and I have so many questions. So all this time, during Obama's tenure, Walu kwa tu homebash, unafilua ni journalist. Now I'm here, now I'm here I'm dressed differently. The president is here, namuona tu. And you're feeling like this, you haven't taken anything. Anything at all, Niko sawa kabisa. You lose touch with reality completely. You're in a completely different world. You're not even consuming anything. Why Like the mind as well. Mind too, in a shift. At what point, when you were young, at what point did you feel, Yes. Okay, you're not feeling anything. but at what point will you be like this here, I'm going to extremes. Back then, in 2011, I started becoming reckless. Spending, that kind of money, eating like that, which wasn't me. Why Alafu was there, as in his nature, I kept quiet until my siblings started fighting completely. At that time, my parents had already separated. It was so hard for me. Yes. So at that time, unashanga, what is this happening to me? I behavior is not like that. I'm getting into trouble most of the time. The people have already begun to suffer. My classmates, they don't want anything to do with me. It was so difficult. So, you went to Mathare, for two weeks, you stayed there, you were arrested. The medication was okay for two weeks. That two-week medication course was bad. Nikarudi, nikapewa meds mzuri zinazotumia sasa. So, after you went there? Hmm. I am coming back even sooner. So now, so sai, medzako ni zaku... Hizo sasa, you see, for the meds, They help with the transition between the highs and the lows. Oh, bipolar disorder involves both extremes. Yes, both extremes. So manya, whereby you have an elevated mood, whereby you feel extra happy when you're high. You're always acting like you're high. So sometimes you also have grandiose thoughts. If you were such A very prominent person in society. Even the things you talk about. You're talking about some really big plans, huh? Nikona hata one million kwa bank, eh? → You're putting a million in the bank, huh? Nikona one million to the bank and do this, and this, and this, and this. So many things. And now, for depression, it is when you feel extremely low. You're so distant. And now, hyperactivity also comes with insomnia. It comes with overconfidence; you talk a lot, and now, Sa, after everything, the dust settles, You start regretting whatever it is that you're going through. And now you sink into depression. So unashangawe, kwali jana kulienda aji? What did I do? I had maybe this and this money in my account, seized by the police. I've been absent from work for maybe about two weeks, sionekani kazini. When you return, wow, oh my, I was in a job. I went home, maybe I went He was arrested on the street or at the bar. That's when you remember, you come back. So you start regretting, and that's When you sink into depression and the cycle continues. And now you're okay, now you know how to handle yourself, like now you know when to. Yes, now I know the warning signs, such as those for mania. I have just started speaking, even though I'm still hesitant and nervous. Wakiona tu Christina naongia mingi, because there was a time when I talked nonstop from 12 PM to 3 PM. one story after another, one story after another, one story after another, one story after another You've got the chance to answer, come on, just do it here, and don't hesitate here, Come here, come here, I'm coming, I have money, I hear it, You're exhausted, so by now I know the triggers, and then insomnia, I fell asleep for about two hours. Being tired all the time is a warning sign. And now, for the other pole, which is depression, when I feel I have lost interest in whatever I used to do When you get a job, it becomes a struggle, and it's hard to keep it. Simple thing, sitaki kuongia na watu, I become so withdrawn, and then I get so irritable. I will not tell you that thing. He spoke the words, countless countless. So, hi there. I can't do that. I was unable to do it due to my own weakness and my own shortcomings. The answers are right here. So, I just know, uh, what, this, kubae. I need to see a psychiatrist. So, and at least, I have already told you With treatment using medication, his condition improved. I just started therapy recently. At least therapy helped me develop coping skills. Zenyezi imenisaidia sasa. So, This disorder is severely misunderstood. Because you see, my undergraduate studies lasted eight long years. Due to postpartum depression. You finally went back. Yes, I finally went back and graduated. Yes, eight years later. So getting a job. It was not yet evening. I went, did a good interview, up to training and everything. Then you hand over the HR documents, and they're like this gap. Why did it take me 8 years to complete campus instead of a 4-year course? You are a government-sponsored city person, You are self-sponsored; pay your school fees. What happened? So I thought maybe, in my naivety, I became depressed. at this particular time because of ABCDE That's why I spent eight years on campus. Why? Because of depression. They're like, no, no, no, no. We can't work with you. This type of work is really, really stressful. It was in the banking sector. It's really, really stressful. So you can imagine the guys we trained with, They are being sent to various branches throughout the country. Christine, don't you regret it? I sank into depression. Hello. Shortly after, I got another job with a certain NGO. Triggers are coming. You know, from July through about August to September there, when the cold season arrives I normally suffer from what we call seasonal affective depression, whereby low weather conditions cause the production of serotonin and dopamine These are the neurotransmitters that regulate mood. So, the zikikosa produces a sound, and when the mood is deep, it descends lower. That time I was so depressed. A lot was going on. There are triggers for weather that are like fire, like fire. So I happened to mention to my boss, by the way, I normally suffer from a mental condition. So can I be, oh, by the way, don't worry I'll just give you mandatory leave. You just go for one month, and when things get better, you'll come back. So back then, I just happened to start becoming more outgoing, huh. In my mind, I was saying, uh, that I feel like setting up my own NGO. So I started attending events, Meeting people from various organizations. So it was as if mentally I was just preparing myself. So the day before Sasa Ndo nafani rudi job, D-day sani rudi job, I saw you on the WhatsApp group, removed. Next, Nika, return the office key to us in the morning. That was it. I was fired. So I became so depressed. We've been on campus for eight years, huh? Now I will start to grow up, I just got a good job, I'm very happy. Then I receive that rejection. Therefore, therefore, therefore, therefore, Therefore. What are some of the things like, I understand those challenges facing teachers, hawa iliwi depression, hawa iliwi bipolar, what are some What are the challenges Zikoko faces in addressing mental health within organizations? So to begin with, nobody wants to be associated with someone who has a mental illness. You are a liability to the employer. So, employer, every single time, whenever you're on medication, Sometimes you feel sleepy, sometimes you aren't even happy. Other days. You're very productive today, but not on other days. You become a liability to the employer. And most organizations, they don't know It's as if they need to support people like this. Not firing someone because I'm depressed. Instead, kama ni therapy. Your employee went to therapy. They are strong enough to be able to perform. Sensitize your employees on matters, triggers, etc. When someone goes. Anze self-medicating with alcohol only worsens the problem. Please be seated, everyone. He doesn't care about the interest in whatever it is that I'm doing. This is depression заметка I should go and seek help at a psychiatric facility. I need to see a counselor. So there is a great deal of lack of information out there. And now the stigma associated with mental illness today. Kwanza, when I tell someone about the kind of work I do with advocacy. You're welcome, Mathare, by the way, you're doing great. You are changing the graves, you are in the graves. Fate, what should I do about fate? Forgetting that, It's shameful to stigmatize people who are genuinely striving. people traveling are more numerous than Awatuwe ngini. That is what people don't know. And there's a lot of stigma surrounding seeking help at a psychiatric facility. Me when I was diagnosed with mental illness, Nika vanished from social media For two weeks, I was very tired. My mom kept the photo. By the way, one thing—ukiwana mtu might just disappear from social media. My child is active, the simuwa is through, hayuko, Make sure they are going through something, undergoing something. If you are able to reach their friends, be able to call them. so that they can be able to look out for them. So be your brother's keeper. What are some of the, like sasa kama pivo kwenye ulusema, I saw the feeling, are you tired of being interested in Aisha sometimes? I want to look out, like I want to see what's ahead, Maybe I've been feeling something lately, I'm not entirely sure. What are some of the things that you can pinpoint? If you're feeling like this? Hmm. Maybe go see a psychiatrist, or I'll go see a doctor. So, for once, to begin with, withdrawal. Whereby, when a person is about to die, the best ones come. You just want to lock yourself in the bedroom alone, sleeping. Sleeping all the time. And then hygiene. So, you're sleeping all the time, oversleeping now. And then hygiene, whereby you begin to neglect yourself. The old man was exhausted, completely worn out. Suddenly unashanga, hata nyele atengenezi, I'm tired, I've been working nonstop. That's also a warning sign. Another thing, feelings of hopelessness. I am tired of this life. Even if we don't speak, he speaks for us. A sudden storm is approaching, bringing with it heavy rain. On the other hand, that's when I started thinking. I'm sorry, but I don't understand. The mistake is minor and the impact is small. Others will turn to alcoholism. My child, my child, my child, my child, my child, my child. Wengine they take to reckless behavior. Reckless sexual behavior. Sleeping around. Because home is lost, life is gone. Now, who is going to pay for the broken window, do you know? A story about mental health Especially this month So we're supposed to check in on our friends. When you message them, it's okay. But now there's someone who is scared Because you have stigma Just as society needs to learn When to There is currently a mess You have found that you hope you find that you have found that you hope you find that you There is currently a problem. Because you're okay You work, you have your organization, you're a teacher But the person is scared. To go and seek help I might give him a bit of encouragement. So what I can tell you, being diagnosed with a mental illness, Yes, it is really, really difficult. It took me four solid years before I accepted my diagnosis. But what I can tell you is that it is not the end of life. One thing: the first step is accepting that you need help. So for the signs I've mentioned, if you feel that the mountain is too steep, Even if I were to be silent, I would still be lost. Interest in these people who are doing it. Dressing you have worn, I felt worthless. We have hotlines. For example, 1199 ya Red Cross. By the way, can you call this number? Uonge is a counselor. At least you share whatever it is that you're going through. They say a problem shared is a problem halved. Yeah, it's a problem solved. So, it's really, really important to talk to someone, Even talking to a friend. Don't stay here feeling hopeless; it's not right—go and seek help. To Yes, with However, with Yes. Yeah, so, the round tables are located up there. to Because, yeah, I need to take the pigie Red Cross phone, Mungina wants to achieve N-Level C. But there are those who cannot. Like, they need, you see, if I met you and you told me about Your story would make it easy for me to tell you my problem. So, is there a place, like, can they reach you? Do you have those communities? I'm struggling to understand, can you help me? Yes, we have support groups. That's mostly on many are on WhatsApp, others Some are on Facebook, others are on IG. For instance, me also run a support group known as Stand Out for Mental Health. We are usually on WhatsApp, where we have professionals. we have individuals with lived experience, We have caregivers, and we encourage one another. And that was apparently my turning point in 2019. The moment I joined a support group, I was able to find people who have been through whatever it is that I'm going through. I found a family. So we have the families that truly truly support people with mental health issues. So if you want to be added to the WhatsApp community we have, You can send me a message on WhatsApp. My number is 0728 693669. You can also follow us on social media to stand out for mental health. Also follow me on all social media platforms at Christine Mbima. Thank you so much, Christine. I feel like that's easier. Telling you my problem because you have. And just like uku, I will never abandon you. What is the meaning of Nitaambiana? Yeah, but thank you so much, Christine. And I am truly grateful that you're even able to share and encourage them. Yes. The one who hears Kristen and the others, like, oh my, well, it's doable. It's not a matter of life and death. You just have to know your triggers, know how. So maybe the last part, uyo mtu saa kupala nje, Mwenya will come at 5 PM for the support group. Yes, for the support group. Me, I have courage too. So what I was telling you is that. Having a diagnosis of a mental health condition is not a death sentence. When the time comes, let's go ahead and cross the bridge. You are not a fool, you are not lazy, you are not worthless. Yes, mateso ziko, but you can live productively once you accept that you have a problem. The first step is accepting that you need help. And as I have said, you are your brother's keeper. If you notice a warning sign in your friend, ask them to seek help. That is the first step. The second step is, the first step is asking them to seek help. And we see that we have a lot of online resources. that are able to assist individuals with mental health concerns. For example, I've told you about the hotline here, Red Cross, through which you can call 1199 And you'll be able to talk to a psychologist 24/7. Alternatively, we have many... hospitals, clinics around Nairobi County And they provide free psychiatric care. So you can just walk there, Go and talk to someone. It is being attacked. Also these level 4 hospitals, They have a psychiatric facility. Sit down, please, counselor. Even with these support groups, There are peer counselors like myself. Yes, let's talk about mental health. but given the experience I've had myself I am able to give hope to others. So through that, you can be To know whatever it is that you're going through. And then we organize hangouts. Like on September 12 during World Suicide Prevention Day, We had a hangout at the Arboretum. Whereas we had group therapy, we also had yoga. We had speed dating, we had a lot activities surrounding the creation of awareness about mental health. And ever since I shared my story with the public, I've been using social media. So much to share about my daily struggles with mental illness. So many people out there are sharing their stories, They are growing bolder, healing aloud, encouraging one another. And you see when you hear a story from another person, It's easier when you connect with it. So out there, badala tu ya kuwananga tu TikTok, TikTok videos about mental health. Go there, search for topics related to mental health. Get to understand yourself, watch those videos, read those articles, It is extremely important. Get that person into your office. Good job, keep it up and point to help. Yeah, so it's not a death sentence. Another thing, always be your brother's keeper. That is what I will keep encouraging you. Thank you so much, Christine. Yes. Thank you so, so much for coming. Guys, I hope you've had. Please be your brother's keeper. Please. That is very crucial. Angale, greet your neighbor. Like. Just a moment longer You never know, maybe you're the remedy Maybe that person over there is just a little bit too eager. Thank you so much, Christine. We keep working on this thing of raising awareness about mental health Because of that, at the very least, we are getting to learn. Our generation in an embrace. Sika kitambu. Just a little bit, we are beginning to learn about mental health. And we hope to continue learning and helping each other. And giving hope the same way you've done, the same way you're saying. Holding on to hope, healing well, you're advocating for. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you very much Thank you so much, guys, for watching Until next time Goodbye Goodbye.