My Girlfriend Is Considering a Debt Relief Company

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Ramsey okay U make a long story short um
I'm in between baby step one and baby
step two you know things going good
stuff stuff breaks spend my thousand
doll gotta rebuild baby step one uh I
got my girlfriend she's kind of starting
to listen to you to we want to be
married have a family she has $21,000 in
credit card debt mmhm she she found this
company a credited debt relief they
offered us a payment of
$342 a month for 48 months that's to pay
off the credit cards the problem is
that's only
$16,400 I don't understand how this
could work okay um because it's the same
as filing
bankruptcy it's going to destroy her
credit here here's the way they work
stay away from them stay away from them
but here's why okay the way they work is
when you sign up with them they take
over all of your payments and the first
thing they do is they stop making any
payments and they let all the credit
cards go into default if they're not
there
already and uh so they they go into
default and the credit card companies
then will settle a bad debt now she will
be in collections on every one of them
and then they'll settle the bad debt for
a lesser amount than is owed and set up
payments on that and that's how they
know that they can get you a $166,000
deal by the way if you did this yourself
and just quit paying for a year which I
don't recommend same thing would happen
then you can call them and settle for
probably a quarter on the dollar so you
probably settle all this for five or
6,000
bucks uh but that is also not paying
your bill when you're able to number one
number two you've completely destroyed
your credit
I mean nasty bad nasty you got a bunch
of outstanding bad debt at that point
and that's the way these people work and
it basically does the same thing to your
uh credit as filing Chapter 13
Bankruptcy does you can do the same
thing with Chapter 13 Bankruptcy you can
file with Chapter 13 Bankruptcy if you
qualify for the bankruptcy under
guidelines then you can pay a percentage
not 100% but you could pay in this case
you said 16 out of 21 right yeah yeah
you could pay so you could pay 5 cents
on the dollar you could agree to pay 75%
to my unsecured creditors in my chapter
13 that's not 48 months that's 60 months
but um they could they could do the
exact same thing thing there and it'll
do the exact same thing to her credit
only Technically she's filed for
bankruptcy and the other one she didn't
technically file for bankruptcy but it
does the same amount of damage if not
more to your reputation and to the
process plus you're screwed you're in
debt $21,000 for 48 for 4 years
when you could have paid it off by next
Christmas working five
jobs yeah why can't you just pay it off
why can't you just work more and pay it
off tell us more about that what's the
income uh I work for the railroad I'm on
12s right now which is legally the most
I can work um she's a teacher and she's
doing starting to do Amazon flex but she
has a daughter love to death what she
teach you
know uh she's like the director of a
bunch of different um like dayc carees
she's a she used to be a daycare teacher
but she's now like the director of a
bunch of those she makes about 55,000 a
year okay all right now instead of doing
that now that I've explained to you and
answered your question what it does I'll
give you a suggestion rather than doing
that okay and um what I'll do is I'm
going to give you Financial Peace
University and every dollar Plus for
both of you she's going to have her
account you're going to have your
account cuz you're not married okay and
I want both of you to get on a detailed
tyght budget don't spend any money on
anything live on beans and rice no
eating out no vacations and working
extra if she has a teaching degree and a
talent in a particular subject like math
or English she can do tutoring and make
more than Amazon
Flex okay if she can get some students
from the local elementary or local
junior high or whatever and she teaches
math in the afternoon or the math in the
evenings after she gets home I mean you
can make $30 to $50 an hour doing that
yeah child care too and your kids
sitting in the other room while you're
doing this they come to your
house that's a great idea yeah I've got
a friend that's a reading specialist
that makes Bank while her kids sit in
the other room and uh on the side and I
mean it's serious money there because
they got reading problems and man she's
wow it's really cool stuff so anyway
yeah that's what I would add to this and
say all right we're going to increase
our income we're going to tighten down
everything we're going to have a new
thought we're going to get all these
credit cards tonight and have plastic
surgery and um we're going to pay them
at 100% we're going to pay them so
fast that they're in our rearview mirror
and we get a
life but 48 months man that's like
that's ridiculous that's like saying I'm
going to jail you get to go to jail for
4
years and you be GE just get to you know
you bring the food and slide it under
the bars you know no thank you I don't
want to live like that I want to get I
want she no man the goal needs to be if
you can find an extra if you can make a
goal that we're going to make or she's
going to make 1,700 extra dollars find
it every single month what does it look
like is it Amazon Flex is it tutoring is
that pays it off in one year yeah Is it
child care is it and is it pay is it a
cut in the budget she makes 55 already
yeah yeah so um yeah that that's the
kind of stuff we're doing Dan so we're
going to help you with that um it's the
hard way but it's the fast way it's deep
sacrifice but it's in your rearview
mirror and you get to have a great life
on the other side of it versus signing
up for a long slug through the mud
that's what we're doing I don't I'll and
at the end of it at the end of the story
you're still screwed because you just
completely destroyed everything as far
as credit goes so she's probably going
to have some dings on her credit
probably already does but nothing like
what you'd be signing up for if you go
to those comp type of a company so we do
not recommend them at all hang on the
line uh the team will pick up and we
will get you signed up for Financial
Peace University get her signed up you
guys you can go through the class
together um but you need your own
separate budgets because you're not
married yet and you live you keep your
finances separate until you're married
so good question sir I appreciate you
checking on her
behalf wow those things are uh you see
them on cable TV
oh and man there's a couple of them have
been fined like 400 I mean one of them
got fined like was it it can't be 400
million was that the fine was some
ridiculous one that uh Tom selich
endorsed and the Federal Trade
Commission hammered them with fines a
couple of years ago because they just
they're they're it's just a scummy side
of the world yeah it's scummy and I
don't I don't like situations where you
take control from you and give it to
someone else to do things on your behalf
and what they're doing is acting like I
didn't pay my bill so that they can get
a discount yeah I mean that and trashing
my stuff in the meantime but we're we're
in the uh we're in the debt relief
business just like Dave Ramsey uh no
you're not no you're not it's not not
even not even close not even close to
the same thing so yeah stay away from um
those things and they call themselves uh
also debt consolidation yeah and it's
not debt consolidation all you're not
consolidating debt consolidating debt is
when you get one debt and pay off all
the others with the One debt well you
don't pay it off you move it to the One
debt but that's like a home equity loan
that's debt consolidation but not paying
them and you paying these goobers one
payment that's not consolidation at all
and it's really not debt relief no it's
not relief it's um well at at the end I
guess it is in one sense but GH wonder
what the percentage of people that
complete it is probably pretty low
that's a good question that would be
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