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[Music] Without further ado, >> WBSM presents the Barry Richard Show streaming live on WBSM.com and the WBSM app. Call 508996500. Text us using app chat on the WBSM app. Now, the Barry Richard Show. >> All right, welcome back to the program. It is 7 after 2:00 now. Beautiful afternoon out there. 70 70 I wish it was 70. It's about 45° and the sun is out now and it's looking pretty dandy. So, uh um thanks for joining us today. Appreciate it very much. Before the break, we were talking about the um New Bedford airport and um efforts to try to um make that airport work and um you know, nothing seems to nothing seems to click there. the Cape Air service between New Bedford and Boston that was just announced. Uh geez, you know, I mean it just is it's like a month old, maybe two months old if that and already it's been discontinued. Yeah. Part of the blame is well the the shutdown and we can't fly into Boston and yada yada yada. But all the airline goes on to um you know further explain that um people aren't using it. People just not using it. It's not convenient for most people and um you know so I mean there there good parts about it. You go through security right there in New Bedford. You don't have to wait in a longer line in Boston but the inconveniences far outweigh the conveniences. And uh so I mean you know you got to give credit but I I just um I don't know who ever thought that that would work. But maybe I don't know maybe I'm just cynical. used to be New Bedford to Boston service at one point. Regular I was one who flew on it. I I I don't remember which service it was. I remember flying from New Bedford to Boston and then Boston to the vineyard at one point. Um, that was a long time ago, but we used to have service, regular service in New York, uh, to the, uh, to the islands, to Boston, and, um, it just, it wasn't used. It wasn't profitable. So, I, you know, I don't know. I look at that airport and I say, it's a beautiful airport, and if we can't expand the runways because we got to protect the tree frogs and all that kind of stuff, then, um, maybe why not just get rid of it? You know, Fred Kalis tried to turn it into a um uh an airport to to take some of the burden off of Boston and Providence in terms of freight. Uh nope. Couldn't do that. Especially since um Tim Murphy, who was the lieutenant governor at that time, lived in Worcester. Worester got other business instead. Yeah. Um if we're not going to do anything with it that's going to really generate any money, we need land for housing. And uh boy, I'll tell you what, we could build a few neighborhoods there. And um you know, with with little business zones and uh and uh some housing, it's a nice area to put some upscale housing, don't you think? And uh some property taxes for the city. I think it I think it would be beneficial, personally. That's my view. I don't know what you think, but All right. 5089960500, you're up next in WBSM. Thanks for hanging on. >> Hi, Barry. >> Hi. Uh yes, you could um at the airport you could uh build a little city there. It's enough land. >> Yeah, huge. >> And uh what tax revenue that would bring to the city? >> Yep. >> The city's the city is land poor and people do complain about their real estate tax going up all the time. >> Yep. >> Uh what what what is their uh it's really nothing there. They have a uh according to the mayor that they have a pilot school. >> Yep. >> That little planes land and take off. And I think there's probably a service to Nucket probably maybe in the summer and uh and weekend weekend pilots park their little planes there and they take them out on weekends. >> Yeah. And they pay rent. But but I mean is that you know combined is all of that >> um you know as much money as we could make by developing land there and and having housing. >> The uh the mayor thinks it's an uh asset instead of a liability. But you ask him uh what revenue does it bring in and you're not going to get an answer. >> Yeah. >> So you know >> well we've been told before by the administration that it does turn a profit. Now, if it does turn a profit, I'm sure it's a very small profit. Um, but is the profit any anything near compared to what it could bring in in terms of tax revenue if we had housing there? And that would go a long way to solve our housing crisis. >> Yeah. Well, this it seems like the mayor and other people there are waiting for something to happen. Uh but it's not going to happen because they are environmental people. You can't extend expand the runways because of some kind of box turtles or spot turtles or something. They they just won't let them go into the swamp. And you got another uh that's one uh runway, but the other runway goes towards uh New Plainville Road. Uh you would have to put an underground tunnel for the plane road. So >> yeah. Yeah. I don't I mean I've lived here for a long time. Um I I don't re I I I just don't see anything that is going to happen to change um the situation at the airport where all of a sudden somebody's going to come up with a big idea that's going to make that airport profitable. So it's a foreign trade zone. We've never used that designation. Um, you know, we could be I I don't know if we got rid of the airport, if we can keep that foreign trade zone designation there and maybe have >> this. Yeah, there is some land um that maybe they could free up uh some some of the land they're keeping for uh the airport that borders the airport and it's all woods. Yeah. >> You know, let's uh I can't see anything in the near future with that airport. >> No, I I don't see it happening. So, let's let's take a logical step forward. And um and look, I'm not talking about putting housing projects up there and everything else. I'm talking about that's a nice part of town. We can we can have some, you know, a real nice, like you said, a small city almost right there. >> Yes. We got the uh we got the railroad uh train coming in now. I'm Certainly if you build houses there, uh they would be taking fast. People from Boston would probably be coming in. >> You can build some shops and some restaurants in there as well. >> It's nice to have an airport. It's nice to have a golf course, but what revenue is it bringing in? >> Yeah. >> All right, my friend. Appreciate it. 5089960500 is the number. You're up next in WBSM. Thanks for hanging on. >> Hey, Barry. Two weeks ago, they introduced a new law in this state. It's called the Pay Transparency Act. >> Okay. >> That that now uh employers uh have to post how much the employees make. And uh I remember years ago where I had this job, right? And uh the the boss felt that I was an excellent worker, that I produced a lot more, that I was an excellent worker. So he called me to his office, right? And he goes, "You know, I'm going to pay you a little extra mortgage. I love the way you work." Right. Yeah. And uh and then he says, "Are you married?" I go, "Yeah." I says, "I'm going to throw in an extra $20 because you're married." Right. >> Well, this law I believe has to touch a little bit with socialism. Uh because now whether you're a good worker or an excellent worker, when the employer puts your salary there, everybody knows what everybody's making and it's going to create jealousy and a lot of problems. And uh in socialism, they believe that everybody should get paid the same no matter what kind of work you produce. >> Yep. and and I think that touches that, you know, I don't know if you heard about that Pay Transparency Act that went into effect. It was October 29th. >> Um, no, I I I don't think I heard anything about it until you just telling me about it. >> Yeah, but but that's that's my opinion about it. You know what I mean? It's like >> uh you know, I grew up with you you work hard uh your employer likes it and he rewards you. But now he's not going to be able to do that because that's going to create jealousy. You know, if if uh I believe you got to have more than 25 employees uh for the law to take effect. Uh but you know that goes against my grand because if in my situation if they would have posted what the boss was paying me, you know, the chaos that would have created at the workplace >> from all the jealousy and all that that comes by when when one makes a little bit more than another person. >> So everybody everybody gets paid the same. Is that what you're saying? >> Well, yeah. No, they they have to post what you're what the person is making. >> Okay. You can be paid different things, but they they've got to reveal it to the public, which you make make it public. >> Yeah. So, let's say WBSM feels that uh your show produces more than another show, right? >> Right. >> So, they call they call you in and want to give you more money, >> they have to post that. But then if you're another co program, hey, wait a minute. Why is Barry making more than me? You know. >> Right. Right. Yeah. >> Uh so that that that creates a problem and I believe that's a touch cuz the Bible talks about that that every man is worth his wages. >> Yep. >> And uh I think that that goes that this touches that socialism >> where everybody gets paid the same no matter what they do. >> Uh it's like in Russia, you remember that old saying in Russia that uh we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us. >> That kind that kind of mentality. >> Yep. Yep. No, I um Yeah, I I agree with you. I mean, some things are are nobody's business and how much you get paid is between you and your employer and and uh and that's it and it's nobody else's business what you get paid. Um, I I've never really been comfortable with uh I mean I understand why we do it. Uh why we uh list the top paid city workers and the top paid state workers and so on and so forth because the taxpayers want to you know want to uh they have a right I guess to know how much they're paying to these people and so on and so forth. But it's become um I to some degree I think jealousy. You know people look at it just to see who's getting paid more than they are. And um >> Yeah. Yeah. For for government, I I can see that for government, you know what I mean? Because I was a correction officer and they tell you how much they pay, right? Yeah. >> It's on the steps, but I'm talking about private industry, you know, I mean, where they're being forced to do this. >> Private industry should not be forced to do anything like that at all. I mean, that's um >> No, no, because like I said, uh I've I've worked in places where people work harder than others. >> Yeah. If the boss wants to reward them, you know, they should be able to, but by him posting what he's paying, it's going to create a lot of problems for the employer. >> Yeah. And the employee. Thank you, my friend. I didn't even know about that. Thank you. I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. 5089960500 is the number. You are next on WBSM. Good afternoon. Thanks for waiting. >> Hi, Gary. It's Richie Canastra. >> Hey, Richie Canastra. How are you? >> I'm doing okay. I I was just calling in about the airport. I'm a pilot and I do have a plane down there. >> Yes. >> And I was on the airport commission when uh Scott Lang was in office. And um as far as um lengthening the airport, that was done already. Those plans about digging tunnels and making it much longer, those are all dead. problem was is that New Bethford had runways that were 4,996 feet and with these business jets that come in, the insurance companies will not let them land on any runway less than 5,000 ft. Ah, >> so we weren't getting the business jets in there, which we get quite a few during the summer because they base them in new beds because it's so pricey to keep them on the Nucket in the vineyard. >> Right. >> The expansions the expansion has been done already and um as far as revenues from the airport, there's very little. Um there's a lot there's commerce that can be done with the airport as far as you know business jets etc. The school which is bridgewater state college they have their training program which is very good. Uh they do we do have facilities down there that work on the planes you know mechanics etc. But the problem today is that these uh weekend flyers, we're paying almost $7 a gallon for aviation fuel. And when you're in a plane, you're burning 20 gallons an hour. You know, there's no more hobbies anymore. It's just uh people that need the plane to get somewhere uh either through business or people that can afford it. So, >> um it's a big piece of land. Um, I agree that it's a big piece of land, but maybe they could cut it down to have one runway. We don't need two runways, which a lot of airports have. >> But we've reached our peak though in terms of how how much we can extend that. I know if Fred Kais before Scott Lang uh was looking to have like UPS and and people like that land there um and and offload freight and things like that. And I think he was calling it the uh I can't recall what he was it was like a a shipping hub I guess used to connect that to the waterfront and so on and so forth. But um short C shipping you got to say that really slowly and carefully. Um but uh that didn't work out right. I mean why couldn't we have done something like that with the the runway's too short? >> Too it was too short. You need 5,000 you need for those kind of feet. We we do have it now, but unfortunately that UPS contract went to Plymouth, Mass. went to the Plymouth airport. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Because because of that issue. But, you know, I do agree there's land there and maybe they can cut it down to one runway and utilize the rest of the land. But again, who wants to build a house near an airport? >> Well, that's the thing. And you know, a lot of people already have. that area is fairly welldeveloped around the airport and um >> Correct. >> Yeah. So, so what what is what is the the best hope for that? I mean, could we put small planes in there that could fly directly to like say, I don't know, Orlando or or Las Vegas or >> No. >> No. >> Um they tried it with Breeze Airlines. I take breeze quite a bit to go to Florida and they're out of Providence but um that didn't work out either, right? And New Befford airport is under TSA, meaning that you can check in in New and and just get into Boston without going through TSA and that's costing the airport quite a quite a bit of money just to keep that rating up in which if we're not getting passenger planes, we really don't need it. So, we are pretty much maxed out in terms of what we can do there, right? >> Well, there's there's land that you can build on. You can bring in businesses, but you know, I haven't seen much going on. >> But in terms of an airport though, I mean, in terms of actual air traffic, I mean, there's not much more we can do. >> I really don't think so to be honest with you. >> Yeah. Well, maybe it's time to turn the page. Fall River did. Fall River got had an airport. they got rid of it and they they built their industrial park there and we certainly need housing, right? >> And we got we got all the business from Far River that came to New Bedford, >> but um you know if they if if if they do close New Bedford, the closest airport it would be Tarton or Plymouth, >> right? >> You know, >> but I mean on average, how many New Bedford folk actually get get on a a plane from New Bedford? I can't. It's been >> probably 1980 something the last time I flew out in New Bedford. >> Yeah, they used to fly the DC3s. They used to have um I forget the name of the airlines. Um they had northeast here. They used to fly the Aero Commanders to the island and now you have Cape. But I'm not even sure how many flights of going out of New Becca to Nantucket or the Vineyard during the summertime, >> right? >> I'm not even sure. I mean, I've always been a believer in the the old statement, right? If you build it, they'll come. Or in the in the case of the airport, if you if you build it, they'll use it. But I mean, it's there and it just doesn't seem to be a whole lot of interest um or affordability really for for consumers to use it. So, I mean, you know, I Yeah, that wasn't always an airport. That used to be a racetrack at one point. It was some something else there at another point. Maybe maybe military use it at one point. And maybe it's time to turn the page. >> In the 40s, they used it for uh the military >> and uh the airport was very busy when we're in the textile industry. There was a lot of planes that came in from New York, right? >> Peterville, New Jersey, etc. But you know, you don't see many uh people coming in for the boats for the windmills. You know what's there to attract everyone to New Bedford? >> Yeah. What now? What about the um the foreign trade zone uh designation? If we close the airport, do we lose that? >> I'm not sure about that. I would believe so, but I'm I'm not positive. >> Yeah, >> I'm not positive. But that foreign trade zone hasn't been used. >> Why not? I mean, I know it's it just I don't understand that. >> Right. Right. Number one, they couldn't get the big airplanes in. Now they can get business jets and you're not going to see a uh JetBlue etc. going into New Bedford. No, >> but uh you you get the small the smaller business jets. So the large business jets they can get into there. But how much business is there in New Bedford to to attract the jets >> like I said during the textile industry there was quite a few that came into Newford. But um you know fishing I don't believe anyone uses jets anymore. >> Yeah. >> In wind windmills I'm not sure but you know what else is there to attract them. >> Thank you Richie for your insight and your uh your personal knowledge on that having served on the airport commission and everything. Appreciate it. >> You're welcome. Take care. >> All right. 5089960500 is your phone number. And let me I got to do a real quick break. Stay with me. We're going to come right back after this. And you are listening to WB >> back to Barry Richard on WBSM. Call 508996500. Rock my soul. Hey, did you shout blues? Jump up and down shoes. Hey, you rock and roll. Rock. >> All right. 2:31 on a sunshiny Wednesday afternoon. 5089960500 is the number and you are next in WBSM. Good afternoon. >> Hi. Good afternoon, Barry. Hey. >> I just wanted to um Hi. Just chime in on the airport because I think what uh Cape Air is doing is really fantastic. um you know with the service that they're offering from uh New Edward actually check in with TSA and then if you're taking a flight out of Boston you can go right to Boston and just skip the TSA in Boston and uh like I have a friend in Sarasota and she's going to be coming up next year. So normally she would fly into Providence but if she flies into Providence she has to do a layover in Atlanta and she hates Atlanta because it's a really big airport. Um, so I told her, "Fly to Boston and then take the uh KBR from Boston to New Edward and I'll pick you up." So it is a great service, but I think, you know, the problem is KPR is really not promoting it enough. They did for a little while, but they're probably the majority of people in this area are totally unaware of it. And I think that's a a problem with a lot of the um services that are offered in this area. And I'll give you an example. when um they used to have the ferry, the Block Island ferry going out of Fall River. I took it to Block Island. It was fabulous, but they stopped it because they didn't have enough business, but they never ever promoted it in this area. So, most people that you talk to were completely unaware that it even existed. So, I think KPN needs to like up their game and start really promoting that uh that flight to Boston in this area to let more people know about that because I think that would bring a lot of good people into the New Bedford airport to uh use their service. >> Well, it's done now, so it's it's kind of late, but um I don't know. I just, you know, the I I remember when it was first announced, I can remember talking to my son and talking to my wife and like, "Oh, this is cool." you know, you can, you know, you can go through screening right here in New Bedford and you just you fly right out and you get But then I'm thinking, what if you got an afternoon flight and the the only flight out in New Bedford is at like 8:30 in the morning to go to Logan? What are you going to do between uh, you know, 9:00 in the morning and and 2:00 in the afternoon when you when your flight takes off from Logan? >> Well, yeah. I mean, you have to plan it. You always have to like call. So, is KPR no longer offering that service? >> It's been pulled as of November 7th. Yeah, it's canceled. >> Oh, it's been pulled. Oh, I didn't realize that. Wait, that was shortlived. Talk about not giving it a uh that's not even enough time to get it off the ground. That's crazy. >> Well, I guess the the first thing they had to stop because of the uh the the government shutdown and uh the um the transportation department reduced the airplane load by 10% at busy airports like Logan. So, that was part of the service that was cut from from being able to land there. So combined with that, I guess Kate Bear just took a look in the mirror and said, "We're losing money on this. It's not making money for us." >> And uh so it's just not working out. Whether they could have promoted it better look, you know, the same thing happens all the time around here. The the Bay Socks was another example of uh you know, you don't promote something and you wonder why people don't go to it. Um so I don't know whether I are there really enough people to support that kind of service out in New Bedford. I don't know. Well, I think you know I have to say the last time I drove to Warf, Rhode Island, it was so obnoxious. I can't even begin to tell you the amount of traffic on one uh 95 was so horrendous that I actually came back through um Waterman A through um uh east side of Providence because I said I am not getting back on 95. I mean it was bumper to bumper backed up to Thurber Avenue. It was horrendous. And then when I left uh east, it was all backed up going into poverty. So years ago going to TF3 with the breeze, it was easy trip. That's not the case any longer. Even going to uh Warwick, it's a nightmare with traffic. Not as bad as Boston, but still it can be really it can be really bad. So to me that was the perfect um uh solution to going either to having to travel to Boston or even if they offered service to uh TF Green you hop on a Kia plane and $79 $99 you're there and I don't know how long it is probably 20 minutes. Uh to me it was a great service but yeah I can understand with uh what's going on you know with um the with flights right now and hope maybe they'll bring it back once the government everything gets straightened out with um uh government you know with flying with the uh transportation department but uh that's too bad it really >> yeah see my my biggest objection to it like like I said was the the time because they had one flight going in the morning and one flight coming back in uh late in the day. I couldn't even imagine having to spend an entire day hanging around in an airport uh waiting for my flight. So, it's worth the it's worth the aggravation to drive. Um I try not to fly out of Logan if I don't have to anyway. Uh because it's crazy there and and and the traffic is nuts. So, I I usually try to fly out of Green unless the deal is so good that I can't resist it out of Logan or maybe, you know, it's the only time you can get the flight you want or whatever. Um but going to Green, I've never really had that much of a problem. Maybe because I lived in the in Providence for a while and I I just kind of, you know, I feel comfortable driving around there. Um but um >> Oh, I did too. I live there, too. Sure. >> Yeah. And you worked there? Yeah. Yeah. You and I both >> nowhere near what it is today. What it that day that I went, I believe it was like a Wednesday. It was awful. It was I I was just astonished at how much traffic and I thought about older people because all four lanes were going about 75 85 miles an hour. There was no way you could go slow if you were an el elderly person who drives slow. There was no place for you to be because you had to keep up with the traffic flow and you basically had to keep it at 75 to 85 miles an hour. I mean it was it was crazy and it that that road is crazy today. So um you know sometimes some of these other services getting getting from one place to another. But think about it too. Even if you're flying out of Boston, how far in advance do you need to leave? you really need to leave maybe 3 hours ahead of your flight because you just never know what you're going to encounter. So, I don't know. Spending extra time in the airport to me, everyone's on their phones anyway, so they just kick back and ring out the phone and spend the whole afternoon there and uh have a couple of cocktails or eat and I guess, you know, it's better to be at the airport early than late. Um, but it's traveling just I haven't traveled in a while, so I have not experienced the displeasure of traveling lately, but I don't think it's as enjoyable as it once was for anyone. >> Yeah, >> you travel, so I'm curious what your uh your ideas are. But even driving sometimes is just the highways, you know, like all the people that drive down Florida the Snowbirds, you know, it's bumper to bumper on the Jersey Turnbite. So, I don't know. I don't know uh how you can get places today. Easy. >> The best way if you're going if you're going there, you go around the other way and you go through the Poconos and down uh what is it? 81 and and 15 and you go that way and you avoid all the New York and New Jersey traffic and it's beautiful scenery, too. >> And you can stop you can stop. >> Yeah, it there are ways to get around and sometimes it might add a half hour, but um you know, I'd rather drive that way. And uh and >> maybe we need a ferry. Maybe they need to offer some ferry service going along the east coast down to Florida. That would be great. Just like the steamship authority, except not the steamship authority, but you know, put your cars on the steam on the uh ferry and just go down and um but you should give uh you should start a new uh little column, Barry's travel tip. >> There you go. Thanks, Kathy. I got to hold you. Appreciate it. 5089960500. I love to travel. I do travel as much as I possibly can. And because of that, we we're always looking for uh you know, ways to save some cash and so on and so forth and ways to make it easier. And I mean there just no easy way to get to an airport around here. I mean you've got Logan or you've got uh Providence. I remember one time my wife and I flew away for the weekend last minute. I I woke her up at like 6:00 in the morning and I said, "Can you be ready to leave out of Logan at 5:30 tomorrow morning? We're going away." And she almost had a heart attack. And so we had to get to uh to Logan. And so for it it was like a twoight trip and then we were coming back and I couldn't believe when I got back how much it cost to park in that garage. I wasn't expecting fortunately I had the money in my in my account. I mean I was expecting to pay but I wasn't expecting to pay that much uh to park there but um uh pay we did and park we did. Um but you know we still use the buddy system as much as possible. you know, you got a buddy or or a son that uh can give you a lift up to the airport and you just pay their gas. That saves you a lot of money and it saves a lot of frustration in terms of parking as well. And um you know, so there's that. Um I don't mind driving to Green. I don't mind driving to Green at all. I I do a lot of driving in Rhode Island. Uh my in-laws live in Rhode Island. My uh brother-in-law lives in Rhode Island. My cousin lives in Rhode Island that I go visit frequently. And so I'm used to that area and um so the traffic doesn't bother me there. I I don't mind driving there. I hate driving in Boston. Uh but I don't mind driving at all in Rhode Island. So 95 is never really um that much of a pain in the butt to me. So um but I just love to travel and I will go through traffic if I have to to go to to get on a plane. Uh try to stop me. Right. 5089960500 is the number. You're up next on WBSM. Good afternoon. >> Uh good afternoon Barry. >> Hi. >> Hey. Um I I think maybe the uh New Befford airport ought to revert back to its original origin and become a racetrack once again. >> You can tell people in New Befford love racing street racing, highway racing, 140 racing. >> I think there's enough interest in racing around here maybe have a safe way to conduct races. >> You know, I I think that we we have a crisis in the city and in the state in terms of housing and just think and and tax high taxes. I think if you were to take that, you don't even have to bulldoze it because it's already level, right? And just, you know, design neighborhoods. That airport, the footprint up there is so big, you can have several, another caller earlier referred to it as a small city. You can have several different neighborhoods up there with business zones and everything. All of that pumping money into the local economy and providing housing for people. >> Yeah, that's an idea, isn't it? >> I mean, what what else we're doing with it? We're just sitting there looking at watching the grass grow, right? Right. Well, anyway, I just thought I'd put my two cents in. >> Appreciate it, my friend. Thank you. 5089960500. Yeah, the the airport, in case you don't know, was a racetrack at one point, many, many years ago. And then the military used it during the war uh the big one, World War II. And um and then then it became an airport after that. But uh and it was busier. and Richie Canastra who used to serve on the uh airport commission called in and said that you know at one point during uh uh the time when we were a big manufacturing city people would fly in from New York you know business people and stuff and there'd be a lot of traffic coming in but we don't have any of that industry here anymore and there's not a lot of people Frank Sinatra used to fly into the New Bedford airport on his way out to the out of the Cape or the vineyard but people drive through now it's it's a whole different world transportation wise all right I've got to get a Real quick break in. Let me do that. We're going to come back for your calls next right here on WBSM. Stay with >> back to Barry Richard on WBSM. Call 508996500. [Music] >> Jack. [Music] >> All right. Welcome back to the program. It is 2:48 on a beautiful sunshiny afternoon. Now, we started out it was kind of murky and crummy out. Now it's beautiful out there. So that's a good thing, right? All right. You're next on Whoop. Hold on. I hit the wrong button. Try there. Now you should be next on WBSM. Good afternoon. >> Hi Barry. Good afternoon. >> Hi. >> I had I have a quick question. Well, first I just want to say that song my mom used to play it all the time. >> Hit the road jack. >> Yeah. And leave it on a jet plane. She would play that sometimes, I think, three or four times a day. >> Wow. >> Yeah. I think that must have been what she was mad at there. >> Uhhuh. Yeah. So, I just have a quick question. You had a gentleman call in yesterday and he said that the parade was only like 15 minutes long and etc., but then he said there was a bomb threat. Yeah. And the roads all closed up. Have you heard anything more or was that just nonsense? >> You know what? We generally as a as a is an unwritten rule um in the news business. We don't report on bomb threats. I know you see that more and more in the news today, but um we don't do it. And I'm I'm old school because we always felt that that kind of like um gave somebody else the idea. Um so we generally have never done that. So I haven't looked into it to be honest with you, but that was the only um only reference that I heard to that at all was when he called in yesterday. >> Right. Me too. Me too. And nothing today. So yeah, I wasn't sure. I know you don't want to give people ideas either. >> Yeah, people have wacky enough ideas as it is. But I I know the world is changing and the media reports on set there. I mean, there was always these unwritten rules in in in the media. When uh when there was a plane crash, you take all commercials for airlines off the air. Um if somebody committed suicide, you didn't report on that. Even if someone and I can remember as a reporter being out there on top of uh you know, watching people standing on bridges threatening to jump, you just didn't report on it. Um unless >> right, >> you know, and and and it I mean just in and bomb bomb threat threats were always that way. Now today, if you get a bomb threat at a school, it's big news. you know, everybody shelter in place and no, you know, so um but uh >> yeah, there is a >> that's the very long answer to your question. >> No, no, that's a good answer. And I mean, you you do have to understand that. I think a lot of people are more aware of it, but I just because it was such a you know, I don't know the timing. I just thought maybe there'd be a little bit of news on it. But um and another thing, speaking of news, Gail King is not staying at CBS. She's gone. What was that again? >> She's gone. Gail King is gone. >> Oh, she is gone. Okay. I'd heard rumors that she was going to be let go and then she denied it. >> Right. She said, "Oh, well, we're in neg negotiations and I'm not going to discuss that." And uh sure enough, I heard I hope it's true. The place that I heard it from is a a good source. And they um she didn't get her I guess it was an appreciations um but she sold now this part I'm not sure but they said she already sold her New York downtown apartment um for 4.5 million and she got all her stocks invol she got to be she got to be on Snap next right >> you know CBS has cleaned house uh from the network level all the way down to all of its affiliates even at Channel 4 in Boston and um they just got rid of a lot a lot of people and um including John Keller over at CB over at CBS 4. Channel 4 used to call it BZ, but um and a lot of folks that have been around for a long long time. It's expensive. It's very expensive and the media isn't what it the media can't keep up with the internet and people don't watch local news anymore and they don't watch the national news anymore except on cable TV. But uh it's a changing world we live in. Thank you, my friend. I got to hold you right there. Got to get this break. We're coming right back. I think you knew I was going to play it out right for two reasons. Number one, the caller said this song was something that her mother played over and over three times a day and also we're talking about the airport. So, um, airplanes and all that. So, it just kind of fit right in, didn't it? Peter, Paul, and Mary. I actually saw them perform that live in Burlington, Vermont, way back in the day. I think probably about 1987, maybe. And, um, it was amazing to have seen them because they were such legends back then. U anyway, the folk era, which is long over. you you go and see folk stories today and they're like rich people, not like the old folk days. But anyway, um I got to get out of here. We've got we've got the news coming up, ABC News coming up, followed by WBSM news and then we've got the WPRI TV channel 12 weather forecast. Going to be a little warmer tonight. It looks like we might get to see the northern lights here. supposed to be pretty spectacular between 10 and 2 am.