The FBI announced the arrest of a man for allegedly placing pipe bombs outside of both the RNC and DNC headquarters in Washington on the eve of Jan. 6, 2021. No arrests had been made in the case for nearly five years.
Joining us to discuss this latest breakthrough is Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow at The Heritage Foundation. -- 📺 Watch NTD News 24/7 on cable, broadcast, and streaming: https://www.ntd.com/watch
And joining us now to discuss this
latest breakthrough is Hans Vonbakowski.
He's senior legal fellow at the Heritage
Foundation. Good morning. Thanks for
joining us. Hans, what are your initial
reactions to this breakthrough in the
case?
>> Well, I think the most interesting thing
about this is the fact that uh according
to the Justice Department, the FBI, they
had no new evidence, no new witnesses,
no new tips. that they simply assigned a
new team of investigators to go through
all of the evidence that they already
had been collected. And I got to tell
you that I mean that's a a a terrific
reflection on the people working there
now. But it is uh very illustrative of
the problems with the prior FBI during
the Biden administration. I mean, here
we have the same evidence gone through
by a new team and they are able to use
that to find the person that they now
have charged with this crime. And it
tells you something about frankly the
lack of dasical attitude of the FBI and
the people who were working there during
the prior administration.
>> Yeah, it's been about a certainly less
than a year since Patel and Bonino took
over. What do you think that they were
able to accomplish that the previous uh
administration or FBI team was not able
to accomplish?
>> Well, look, they're talking about going
through a huge amount of evidence, but
the key thing apparently that that got
them out of this suspect were two
things. um cell phone data that they
were able to use to find this particular
suspect in both of these locations at
the correct time, but then also credit
card information that that uh showed
purchases of bomb- making materials at a
host of stores, including Home Depot in
Northern Virginia. Finding that kind of
information is a very painstaking
process. as as anyone who's investigated
this kind of case knows and that's
clearly I I think what led them to this
particular suspect.
>> Yeah, it's interesting how big data
certainly played a role and we see that
across every theater and every whether
it's the war in Ukraine. Um technology
is really transforming how we go about
all different types of things uh both in
the private sector and of course here in
police work. Um, I want to understand
and dig into this with you. Former FBI
official Steven Dantonos told members of
Congress in 23 that the timers on the
bombs were set in such a way that they
could not have detonated. Yet, in what
seems like a reversal by Darren Cox,
who's the assistant director in charge
of the FBI of the Washington field
office, he said yesterday that they
could have gone off. So, I mean, that's
a major change of position. How do you
understand that?
Well, I have to say that given the lack
of ability of the FBI uh in in 2023
under this prior guy to sift through the
evidence and find who had done this,
quite frankly, I I don't think his claim
was was credible. I mean, I think that
may have been a way of downplaying the
seriousness of this uh and to excuse
their inability to find the perpetrator
of of this whole incident. So, I said, I
don't give that a lot of credit. Uh I do
give a lot of credit to the current
investigators on the case given their
success in actually finding who did
this.
>> Yeah, that's an interesting perspective
on that. And certainly January 6th is
one of the most polarizing topics that
one could discuss and not my intention
to sort of go down that rabbit hole, but
I do want to understand in your view and
there's they're not with with releasing
any more information about this thus
far, but do you think that this is a
solo uh you know like a lone wolf or do
you think that potentially he had some
assistance or was part of something
greater?
Look, it's it's always hard to come to
any conclusions early in in in an
investigation, certainly when someone's
been arrested. But look, the the
information coming out about this
individual so far from his neighbors
where he lives in Woodbridge, Virginia,
which is not that far from where I live,
is that he he was a loner. Uh he did not
interact with his neighbors at all. Um I
I suspect this was something he did on
his own. You know, the early information
is is that uh he worked for a bail bond
company, but that also he andor his
father had certain uh claims against the
federal government, uh claims of
discrimination, other things that were
not, I guess, remedy to their
satisfaction. So, look, at this point,
we don't really know the motives for
this, but all the indications are that
he was all by himself in doing this.
>> Yeah. Whether you look at the Butler
shooting or the Charlie Kirk
assassination or in this incident, it
seems like there is a heightened sense
of a mental health crisis. Um, how do we
as a society put these things into
perspective and start to bring the
temperature down?
Well, there's an awful lot of rhetoric
unfortunately coming out uh in the
political arena frank frankly
particularly from the far left that
seems to indicate that violence is okay.
I mean when you're constantly calling
for example the president a fascist when
you are referring to federal agents uh
including immigration agents as the
Gustapo
that I think unfortunately spurs
individuals to commit violence. That's
why the assaults on ICE agents have
increased by what? Over a,000%.
And the rhetoric that we're seeing, plus
the support by local officials uh for
this, their obstruction of federal law
enforcement um that that is a real
problem and I think that helps
unfortunately lead to this kind of
action.
>> Yeah. Well, appreciate your analysis
this morning. Thanks for joining us,
Hansban Spicowski. Thank you.
Thanks for having me.