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>> So, there's uh some discrepancies
between how my husband and I think about
finances. We've been married uh it'll be
31 years next week. And um just today I
we were looking at some cash and um we
were going to pay um to have some work
done. Anyway, uh he left me a note
saying he left $1,300. Uh he doesn't
have any more. He'd have to go to the
bank. And um I know for a fact that
there was
$2,200
in an envelope. And so I know he lied.
And um
I also had a discussion earlier with him
about tithing um and the fact that that
has not been something that is
consistent
uh with him because he is in control of
finances and he said that he would uh he
can't talk about the past but he can
just do better in the future. But I've
heard that before because I've had this
conversation about the tithing before.
So, how am I supposed to trust him with,
you know, the past history in tithing
and the fact that um,
you know, I believe he lied about the
the cash that was in the house.
>> I think we can agree on that. There was
Did you confront him and say there was
2,200? Why is there 13? Where' the $900
go?
>> No, he did say he left some to uh for
for some spending money. and he had set
the money in a in a safe. Um, but I have
the the code to the safe because he's,
you know, for your protection if you
need to get in here.
>> Sure.
>> To use.
>> And was there $900 in there?
>> Well, I I looked the other day and it
was the the 2,200 and then I looked
again today after I received that text
about the 1300 and I looked and I didn't
I didn't count it, but I there was more.
It was more than just some spending
money. And
>> so he you think he's clearly lying to
you. And do you think there's something
going on here? An addiction, an affair,
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for details. Do you think there's
something going on here? An addiction,
an affair, that that reason why he's
withholding this information.
>> No, I just think it's a
I just think it's a controlling
I think it's a controlling thing. I I
don't
>> You can be controlling because you're
trying to hide the vice or addiction.
>> Yeah. I He doesn't want you to see
>> I don't think there is. I just don't
understand.
Um
Yeah. I I just don't understand the
defeat.
>> And if you bring it up with him, he just
gets defensive and says, "Well, I'll
just try to do better because that's not
good." was that that was regarding the
tithing and um so he controls the
accounts. I have access to them and
that's why I was able to
>> So what do you mean by control?
>> Um he takes care of all the bills. He
pays all of the bills. He always has. Um
when we first got married, he had money
saved. I did not because I was a
spender. I had no debt, but I had no
savings. And
>> you relegated it to him to handle it.
Yeah. And he pretty much, you know,
based on the fact that he's a saver,
kind of took over took over the
>> How much money do you guys have saved?
>> So, right now, so this is I know this
won't be agreed upon, but we have a
joint savings. Um there's like 35 in
that um joint
>> 35,000 or 100
>> thousand. But we also inherited some
money
um a few years back. And so between the
money that we inherited his um
tax deferred, my tax deferred, there's
uh like 1.3 mil in there.
>> Okay.
>> Um and so I've even wanted to pay off
the mortgage. There's only about
60 or 70,000 left on the mortgage.
>> And how old are you, Tim? and
um
I'm 59. He's mid60s.
>> Okay. How long has your marriage over
these 31 years lacked communication and
trust?
>> Oh, most of them.
>> Okay. That's what I was getting at. This
has been going on a long time, which
makes you an accomplice to the crime
>> cuz you've been sitting back allowing it
to happen to you,
>> right? And so there needs to be a come
to Jesus meeting and some marriage
counseling to go, we're not on the same
page. We haven't been on the same page.
We have money in spite of our lack of
alignment, lack of values, lack of just
transparency when it comes to money. You
can say, "I have access to the accounts,
but we are not on the same page, and I
want to know exactly where this money is
going and what else is going on here in
order to rebuild trust." And if he can't
straight up tell you, if he starts to
get nervous and defensive, that's a sign
that this marriage has not been a
marriage for a long time.
>> Oh,
>> it's been a transactional partnership.
>> Yes.
>> And that's the that's going to be the
sad truth that you have to face
>> is that we sort of played house as two
people who live together, but we are
miles apart.
>> Yep.
Yeah. I It's It's just been That has
been difficult. I've asked there's no
budget to speak of. Um, as long as the
the bills get paid, you know, the the
credit card gets paid every month, then,
you know, we're we're doing good and
>> and the rest of the money disappears
into where he over wherever he wants it
to go.
>> Yeah. But it's not really disappearing.
It was, you know, private school,
tuition, college. So I I
>> Kids are out of the house now.
Um, they're all in they're all in their
20s, but three out of the four remain
>> in the house.
>> Mhm.
>> Okay. I think we need to we need to have
a come to Jesus to go, "Hey, we're we're
in the last quarter here of this
marriage, I want to make this great. It
hasn't been great." And I want to know
if you're on the same team. I think if
you come at it attacking, he's just
going to get defensive again. But if you
come at it and say, "Listen, I haven't
done a great job being involved,
>> and that part's on me." But you have not
done a great job communicating where our
money's going, and it's left me
wondering, is there something else going
on? Why can't you be honest with me
about where this cash is? Why is it all
just smoke and mirrors and and defense?
And if he can't get there, you
definitely need marriage counseling
yesterday. I don't know that he's
willing to go.
>> Do you think he would do that?
Um that's been a struggle um over the
years, me always asking and um it's
never helped. So why why try it again?
>> You need to go solo then until he's on
board. Would you go by yourself?
>> I am. I'm currently
>> Okay. And what's come of that?
>> Um
we're just getting into some of the
stuff. Um, so you know, I I think I'm at
a realization of really am,
you know, been unhappy for 20 years or
more and do I want to finish the last 20
of my life.
>> Yeah.
>> Continuing to be unhappy. So that's my
that's kind of what's been rolling
around in my head for the last few days
and especially after today.
>> Yeah. Well, the it's going to take time
and consistency and honesty and
transparency, which means we're doing a
budget every month. All our accounts are
combined. There's no just loose cash,
you know, fluttering away every month. I
don't know that he's willing to do that.
And at that point, you're going to have
to make a hard call. Do I want to
continue down this route of misery and
lack of trust, or do I need to just
create the my own last chapter of my
life? I can't make that decision for
you, but I hope that you guys come to a
conclusion and you don't let this drag
on for another 20 or 30 years. I'm so
sorry, Janine.
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