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>> I was given a rental property that's
been nothing but a headache and I'm just
wondering if I should allow the bank to
take it.
>> I'm sorry. How do you How are you given
a rental property that has a mortgage?
>> Um, I worked for a company that did
flips and they kind of gave me it. I was
young and I didn't know what I was
doing. Um, and so I just basically took
over the debt. They cover the down
payment and it's racked up some credit
card debt as well.
>> Okay. Uh so what is owed on the house?
>> 519,000.
>> But you did not get the mortgage.
>> The mortgage is in my name. It was uh
the down payment was to me.
>> Oh. So
if you give it back to them, they're
going to foreclose on you and sue your
butt. You understand that, right?
>> Yes, sir. Well, that that would not be a
good plan. Sir, what's the house worth?
>> I I had it listed at 540 and it wouldn't
sell, so I would guess 500,000. I I
overpaid for it.
>> Who do you Yeah. Shock. And um How old
are you?
>> I am 21.
>> Oh god.
>> So these flippers are these Tik Tok
morons, aren't they?
Um, yeah, he was like my mentor and and
I called him one of my best friends at
one point, but uh he was just a little
older than I was.
>> Yeah, friends like that. Who needs
enemies? Okay. Oh, man. I'm sorry, sir.
Um,
>> yeah.
>> Who do you owe the money to? What kind
of a mortgage is it? FHA, VA,
conventional, bank loan? What is it?
>> It's a It's a conventional mortgage.
>> Okay.
Are you able to make the house payment,
Braden? Are you able to stay current on
it?
>> I am not. So, I'm actually like 60 days
delinquent right now. Um, I am
self-employed. I made $25,000 last month
and so I put that into a credit card
payments instead of uh paying the So,
it's a rental property right now. So, I
have renters in it. Um, with renters in
it, I lose 1,500 a month.
>> Yeah. Okay. Um Okay. So, your only way
out because you owe more on it than it's
worth net net is to do what's called a
short sale. Have you ever heard that
phrase?
>> Yes, sir. I as I work in real estate, I
I know a lot about I I've talked to a
lot of people who have suggested that.
>> Okay. Do you actually know how to
execute a short sale, sir?
>> Yes, I know someone who that's all they
do. They're an agent here in town.
>> Okay. All right. Would they be willing
to help you?
>> Yes, but they said not with tenants in
place. And my tenants lease is until
March.
>> Mhm. Well, I think you call your tenants
up and say, "Hey guys, the house is
getting foreclosed on." So,
>> you may want to find a new place.
>> You may want to find a new place.
>> It's only three months.
>> It was
>> Yeah. The the biggest issue is it was
leased through my mom's Airbnb account
and so I was afraid it was going to hit
that and destroy her Airbnb business as
well.
>> Yeah,
man. Y'all just stacked stupid on top of
stupid, didn't you? Man, I tell you,
I'm sorry. I've done I've done worse.
That's what I'm just feel bad for you.
>> It's like every because every time I
bring something up, there's another hook
in it, right? So, um
>> Yeah. So, uh, if I'm in your shoes, I
quit paying the payments and I run the
renters off.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. As best I can. I mean, leg I mean,
just by telling them, "Hey guys, it's
going to get foreclosed on. You may want
to look for a place to live." And
they'll probably up and leave. Well, and
I'll let you out of the lease because I
don't want you to get hurt if you want
to go. If you want to go early, I'll
understand.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. And then quit paying the
payments and then start the short sale.
I um if your friend won't help you while
the tenants are in place, uh go to
ramseysolutions.com
and get a Ramsey trusted agent that
knows how to do short sales and they'll
help you.
>> Okay? The tenants don't have to be gone
for you to uh begin to negotiate a short
sale. It just makes it easier to show
the house.
>> Well, and if you're in that world,
Braden, you should have you should know
a lot of people. You said a lot of
people have suggested this. I'm sure
there's a lot of realers that you know
that you know, I mean, a Ramsey trusted
agent I would feel good about just cuz I
know the type of people they are.
>> Yeah. But fi Yeah, I mean finding
someone should be relatively easy.
>> So, and basically the short sale is is
you get an offer on the property that is
net lower than the actual balance and
you submit that to the mortgage company
and they realize having done an
appraisal that they're not going to get
any more than that after they foreclose
on you. So, they take that and you are
looking for and you remember this phrase
without recourse.
>> Yes, sir. because that means they don't
come after
>> another
>> they don't come after you for the
difference of that is
>> okay yes and another thing on top of
that is um my the old boss he paid his
best friend to cosign for me so he's
he's kind of scared and going downhill
with me so he's kind of pressured me
into paying the payments previously but
I I've just told him I'm done
>> yeah well tell him talk to your old boss
>> who set this up you didn't talk him into
doing it the other guy did
>> and he did it That's the stupid thing
about cosigning. He
>> Yeah. Sucks for him.
>> So, let me ask you this. Okay. You
cosign for a 21-year-old who's
overpaying for a piece of property and
then you're shocked that you get stung.
>> Okay. I'm just saying put together by a
bunch of flippers. Yeah.
>> Yeah. This is a good way to get screwed.
>> And so, yeah. Yeah. I'm so sorry you're
going through this. The great news is is
that when you're the other side of it,
you will have learned several lessons if
you learn them. And you need to write
them out. I'll tell you what some of
them are. Never cosign. Never accept a
cosign. Never buy a piece of property
with nothing down. Don't borrow up to
your eyeballs and expect a piece of real
estate to work. It doesn't work. It
doesn't cash flow. There's no possible
way this nothing down tick tock crap
works. It's the
>> Don't get in the Airbnb business either,
Braden. Don't follow your mom's
footsteps.
>> Yeah. and quit quit looking for all the
get-richqu stuff. Every one of these
things is in the get-richqu stuff. But
write down, okay, I don't need partners.
I don't need co-signers. And I don't
need favors from friends who aren't
really friends who help me buy something
that I overpay for and over borrow on
and trap me in. And so, you know, I one
of my lessons is I never cosign. That's
one of the things I learned when I was
just a little bit older than you and I
went broke. And um one of the lessons I
learned is I don't have the only ship
that won't sail a partnership. I'm not
in partners with anybody. Period. One of
the lessons I learned is I don't borrow
money anymore. Period. The borrower's
slave to the lender. And boy, don't you
feel that right now, man. Gosh, I'm so
sorry, Braden, but a short sale is your
way out. Cleaning out the tenants is
part of that program. Doesn't it's not
necessarily start it, but I would start
it. I would get it on the market and get
an offer that you can take to the
mortgage company and have them accept a
a reduced payout on the mortgage called
a short sale without
recourse.
If they don't say without recourse,
they're going to sue you for the
difference as if they had foreclosed on
you.
>> And Braden, you're you're a go-getter.
You're doing stuff at 21, but this real
estate the real estate world, there's so
many traps, what we just laid out
earlier in the call, what Dave was
saying. So remember those, okay? there.
It's going to be really easy to get
sucked into a deal that feels so great.
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