Wie Familie, Freunde und Umarmungen unsere Gesundheit beeinflussen | Dr. med. Antje Göttert | QS24

Are you already on Wikisana? Welcome, dear viewers, here on our show Naturmedicine. And today I have the special pleasure to interview a doctor, because she has done something that really touched my heart. I don't do much advertising for books, but the lady as a doctor wrote a book, the logbook of a 100-year-old or the 100-year-old. And that's a really thick ham that showed me that this book is a library that every man or woman should have at home. Because it is a very, very great copy. How the book was created and why she wrote it, I would like to learn from her today. And after the intro, I'll get started. Stay with us. Yes, here we are again. And now I would like to introduce the doctor and author to you. She is Dr. Med Antje Göttert. Welcome, dear Antje. Welcome and thank you for the invitation. Yes, I'd love to. Now tell me, why did you decide to write such a thick ham? Well, I'll tell you, that it got so thick, this ham, that wasn't quite planned. But the content did. So it was just a matter of the heart for me to convey what I have experienced and learned over the many, many years, so to speak. So to write in such a way that every man, every woman can access it. And, I'll tell you, I've always liked to write. You have to do that when you do such a job. And the impulse, it came pretty suddenly, I'll tell you. So I had written two children's books and participated in a writing coaching within that framework. And I'll tell you, it came like a flash of lightning. And it said something in me. You have to write another book. You have to write a medical book and convey what is actually such a matter of the heart day by day with your patients. Yes, and we really have to go into that. Because what I just saw, I understood everything. So it's the language of us at home who understand that a disease or a health problem has various connections, i.e. also causes that have an effect. And you put it here nicely in alphabetical order. You took the whole alphabet and said, OK, 26 letters, Z for dentist, tongue and so on. And you put it all together nicely, all the problems here. But the special thing about that book, you just didn't just put a theory in it, you checked everything yourself and tested it yourself. Yes, so most of it is actually that I checked it on myself. But at least I went in there really thoughtfully. Because I think it needs that too. Otherwise I can't convey it so authentically and so clearly as it has to be, so that everyone can understand it. But I can't help but wonder what you've done. Yes, I'm just curious too. I'm a dermatologist by profession, a specialist in dermatology. And that's such a subject that goes from top to bottom, the whole body. It's also about the soul. So that's a subject that has a very broad spectrum, actually, at least in terms of observation. Therapy is quite limited in terms of medical school, but in terms of observation it's a very wide subject. And it also includes every age group, from baby to adult. And I probably chose that subject because I've always thought broadly and observed. And that's how it went on when I had the specialist. Actually, already during the specialist, a friend of mine told me, well, if you want to be a dermatologist, you have to take at least one course in natural medicine, and that's where it's about the intestine. And then I didn't just take that one course, but really all medical further education for natural medicine. Then came homeopathy. Then came a lot of other courses, simply because I noticed that so many questions were answered for me that were left unanswered in my regular training at the university and at the hospital. But that's exactly what I want to show the audience, that actually a doctor's training is the first step and that there is still a very limited knowledge. Then you build for 30, 40 years such a knowledge out of your own interest and curiosity and the demand of the patient to really want to help. Yes. Yes, so I would call it a special knowledge that we specialists have. But especially with chronic diseases it takes more. So we now have not only the physical level, we have different levels that play a role for our health and also in the context of the disease. And that is too short in our normal training, in our school medical training. So we learn a lot, but the outlook for the whole is lost. And you absolutely need it. I took it with me to the bathtub. Regularly, I spent many hours in the bathtub for this book. And today we said we'll just start with one letter. And we said we'll start with the F. And just signal to the audience what is so important about the F. What you don't necessarily want to focus on a skin doctor not even in general medicine. Well, in general medicine, yes. But only very close to the edge, unfortunately. And I would like to ask you to tell us a little bit about that. Yes, so F stands for family and friends. And that's a chapter that is very dear to my heart. That's why I think we'll start with that now. Because it is very, very important that we direct our attention there. It is a basic need of us humans and not only of us humans. We just saw that. We just had a dog here. That you are touched, that you are stroked, that you have closeness and that you have a connection with other people or even with animals. And that you are seen and heard. If that is not the case, then we feel that we are not doing well and not doing well. And in this respect, where is it best that you are touched and embraced and can experience closeness in the family, hopefully, and with friends. And there are already a whole series of studies which effect it has. On the one hand, if you don't have that. And on the other hand, how beneficial it is if you have that. So, for example, Virginia Satir, she founded family therapy. She once postulated that it takes at least four hugs a day for a healthy development, so that we feel good. So, four hugs a day. On some days we have to ask ourselves, okay, where do they even come from? And how long do they have to be or are they allowed to be? Well, these are not pussy-pussy hugs, but these are really hugs that take a few seconds. So, let's say, it takes about 20 seconds. Last time a customer did that. He comes over and pushes me for 20 seconds. And then, phew, that was a long time. I mean, I also push people here, always from heart to heart, but that's about three, four, five seconds. But 20? Yes, that's the way it is, that we actually almost feel it as an overlap in our culture. It is all the more important to talk about it, that it does us good, that we actually need it. And we can start cultivating this by saying, let's hug our loved ones, our children, and talk about how it does us good if we do it a little longer than just for a short time. Depending on the phase, it can of course still be that the children say, no, stop, that's just too much for me when they are in puberty. But to find out that this is first of all a basic need, that it does us good, and that it actually also takes a certain amount of time, that also changes our attitude to it. So I'm going to practice that a bit, but I have the feeling that between the third second and the 20th second I would have to drink a coffee while hugging. That's extreme. But you also wrote, I read in the book four hugs a day, eight to feel very good, and with 12 hugs a growth occurs. What do you mean by that? Yes, that's what Virginia Svartir found out in her research. So I say, with a little distance thought about it, this is of course a very, very high demand that actually can't be realized in everyday life. And I wouldn't see it as gold either, that we absolutely need it so that we feel good. But to think about it at all, what does it look like in my life? What does it look like in my everyday life? Do I live in a relationship? Do I go outside? There are, so I say, in about 50 percent we are single households these days. And that is of course frightening. Where should these people have closeness, and embraces, and relationships, and conversations? Where from? Just a nice touch, yes. Yes, and that, you actually have to hook in there, at that point. There are countries like Great Britain, they even have a minister, a minister called against loneliness. So loneliness is a topic that we should also look at. So I say, fortunately there are some aspirations from a private side to change something, to do something about it. And, for example, for me, or it is so and so nationwide, there is the platform nebenan.de. This is quasi regionally organized. For me, for example, these are three prefectures. So I come from Wiesbaden in Frankfurt and live in a suburb. And three prefectures, so to speak, those around me, they are in one group. And you can basically sign up via the Internet, you need to do that. And then you see, okay, someone offers craftsmen's work. Someone asks, who can repair my lawnmower? So, for example, I have already received help. Who wants to go to the concert with me? Who wants to go to the theater with me? Who wants to do yoga? I offer yoga lessons and so on. So this is such a platform that is very well organized, where you can basically get out of your comfort zone, can take yourself out and say, I don't want to be lonely anymore, I'm going now and do something. And last week a patient came to me, to the skin cancer care provider. This is something that takes place regularly. That means we have known each other for a long time. And so we always talk about this and that. And she mentioned something very interesting, it's called Meet5. So meet five. And I thought that was a wonderful alternation to these portals, where you basically do one-to-one search for partners. It's more about getting together with five people. And if it's a few more or a few less, it's not a problem either. And also says, I want to go to the film XY. Who wants to go with me? I want to take a hike over there. Who wants to join? And the platform is called Meet5? Meet5. So meet5. Dot e. Dot e, probably. Yes. I think that's a great idea. Yes. Because the loneliness of people, that's dramatic. Yes, exactly. And that's what it takes. It is medically proven. When we are lonely, we suffer more from cardiovascular diseases. Our defense force is weaker. Our mood is worse. We notice that too. When we are lonely for a moment, then we notice, we just don't feel well. And vice versa, when we are angry in the community, when we have people we can talk to, who also hug us, with whom we can exchange, who see us. And yes, where such an exchange can take place, then we feel better, our defense force is stronger, our mood is better, and so on and so on. There is a very interesting study, it's called Roseto study, it's older and well known, but I just find it fascinating. A doctor, I think because of a congress, is in a city and at dinner he had a conversation with a local colleague and he tells him that in his city significantly fewer cardiovascular diseases are to be recorded than in the rest of the USA. And then he became curious and since he was also doing research, he said, okay, I'll send a team there. After all, it was the number one cause of death. And then they examined it. What exactly do these people do that they get so much less heart attacks, etc.? And what came out was not that they have any risk factors less, but the decisive factor was that these people lived in a wonderful community. Mainly of Italian origin, they continued to live their habits in the USA, so they were immigrants and celebrated festivals together, helped each other if there was anything, played together, and so on and so on. So they just lived in a wonderful community and that was the decisive factor. Many years later, unfortunately, this dissolved and then they also balanced in the number of these cardiovascular diseases. So an important point. Yes, yes, I also read in the book that, especially through embrace, a lot of endorphins and oxytocin are released. Exactly, exactly. These are substances, these are hormones that also trigger a feeling of happiness, right? Yes, yes. These are well-being substances. Oxytocin is released. Well-being substances, good. Yes, when we feel good, when we are embraced, so well-doing touches, that leads to the release of oxytocin. And that just makes us, so our mood gets better, we feel better and automatically we also feel more vital. And the healing powers are supported by this. I told you this afternoon that last week there was a man a health scientist who did his doctoral work on the topic of mindfulness and touch. And when he showed these studies and results in psychiatry, they couldn't believe it anymore because the results were much better than all drugs. Yes. There is a loss of medicine due to our awareness of disinfection and no longer having time for listening, the mindful discussion. And that is of course fatal especially in care because the situation is such that there is a shortage of staff, that there are more and more demands, bureaucratic things have to be done, there is less and less time for the patient. And nurses who are so under stress also lose their empathy. It's just automatic. They become numb in their stress, whether they want it or not. And that's exactly what it takes to get healthy. Patients need someone who turns to them, who maybe even touches them and maybe even holds their hand. So to do all this once in a while is difficult because it doesn't sound good at all. And at some point there is also a lack of empathy when I am in permanent stress. Something basically has to change in the system. That's sad, yes. I wrote down another sentence under F. I don't even know where it came from. But it says, love goes through the nose. It was still under the subject F. I wrote that down. And also in relation to the nose. Yes, exactly. I would like to hear something about that. Well, first of all, regardless of what I'm about to say, we have a lot of oxytocin receptors around the nose. That's one thing. And the other thing is... So if I smell something good, there is a certain feeling. Well, let me put it this way. When we kiss, oxytocin is released, and that's a lot. And the other thing is, when we kiss, or are close to each other, it also has the effect that we smell who the other person is. And if it's someone who smells differently than us, genetically, then it will be that the other person has a certain attraction for us. Nature has set it up in a way that the more genetically different we are, the better it is for the offspring. The more genetically healthy the children are, who are possibly born from this connection. But if we women take the pill, then it has changed. The smell? The perception has changed. From the man? Exactly. If I take the pill as a woman, and I come into contact with a man, and we are close, then it may be that I find him attractive, even though he is genetically very similar to me. Evolutionarily, I didn't think so. Then maybe at some point I will take the pill. I am now in connection with this man. And then you can no longer smell him. And then it may be that this man no longer smells attractive to me. That is, of course, a woman who binds herself and plans to stay together with her partner and to have children, she should better not take the pill. So the decision should be made without the pill. Which gynecologist advises a young woman on this level? Unfortunately, this is hardly possible. I have often heard that you can no longer smell each other. Yes, it is no longer attractive. Quite amazing. Then you also wrote that loneliness makes you sick. Yes. We have already mentioned that at the moment when I am at home alone without other people, I just don't feel well. And I live lonely and can't compensate for it. There are certainly people who are alone and who can compensate for it through a very close connection to something you can call God or a higher level, so to speak. But if that is not the case, then I live shorter, significantly shorter, so years shorter, when I am alone and I don't feel well. This has a decisive influence on my well-being, on my health and on my life. Sad, isn't it? That is sad. And if you see how we treat our seniors today and push them into an old age home. And also during Corona, when visits were no longer possible. Yes, yes. This is already being said from the official side. Hopefully we will also learn from these mistakes. Or it's just a lip service. I always wonder whether this will really be improved in the future with the next story. Tell me, please, why did you name the book the 100-year-old logbook? Yes, to find such a title is always a bit ... I say, there are different aspects to it. And with the logbook I imagined that it is not just my knowledge that I have written in there, but I have learned a lot from other people, from teachers, also from my patients, and so on. And it is not chiseled into stone. This may develop further. And I also imagine such a logbook. You write something in it, but it can also add something. Something can change. It can live, so to speak. And that was the idea that I called it the logbook. And the 100-year-old ... Yes, there it plays a bit the novel by Jonas Jonas a role of the 100-year-old who got out of the window and disappeared. And when I read this novel, I said, wow, with 100, who want to escape the celebration, so to speak, get out of the window and go on an adventure. Doesn't that sound fantastic? And it is also the case that we actually only need one role model to feel better and to emulate it. That we say, it works. It works with 100 to be so vital and fit. And I'll see what I can do in my life so that it becomes reality. And of course we don't have to become 100. I also asked myself why you named the book like that. And over time I made the thought that if I bring this knowledge out of so many aspects into my consciousness, there is a very good chance that I can get old in a healthy way. And that's why I took this into account with the 100-year-old. This is already a recipe that is very comprehensive. And I think it's really excellently done. A big compliment to the book. I also wrote it to you. I never thought I'd read it. But after the first 20-30 pages I thought, I'll pull through. It was really fun. And I just want to say at this point again, dear viewers, this is really a library for me. If you have a book like this and look at how you can also look at the problem or what connections there are. And you can really draw on a great treasure of experience that these doctors, our guest Dr. Antje Götthard, have summarized here. Thank you very much. But we will continue with further programs because we would like to introduce you to more topics and if you would like to see the next program also with Dr. Antje Götthard, then just switch back in three weeks. Until then, thank you very much. I thank you, thank you very much. And all the best. And you too. See you next time.