Arouna Lipschitz, Ghislaine Bourgogne, Frédérique Lemarchand et Éric Dudoit reviennent sur les notions de sacré, de foi, de transcendance dans cet extrait.
🎥 Réalisé et écrit par : Mylène Baradel 👉 Produit par : Sébastien Lilli 🔹 Avec : Élisabeth de la Barre, Agnès Stevenin, Bernadette Blin, Julie Lam, Eric Dudoit, Arouna Lipschitz, Ghislaine Bourgogne, Frédérique Lemarchand, Christine Marsan.
Did we say a radical yes to our birth and that we accept reality and not only transcendental fleas in the real?
If we accept that it is life that is sacred and that everything that is transcendent and everything that is spiritual must be translated into total acceptance of reality,
so if we accept that, again, all the sacred are OK, all the forms, and if we need dancers, everything is fine.
But you have to check that the bottom is there.
For me, the notion of the sacred is omnipresent. It is a question of respect for the person in his psychic integrity and in his totality.
By association of ideas, I think of the title of a book by Christian Bobin, which speaks of François d'Assise,
and the title of the book is called The Very Low, with a capital T and a capital B.
And he always says that we speak of the very high, with a capital T and a capital H, we never speak of the very low.
And it is really this dimension of transcendence in the ordinary.
And this is where we live it all the time, in everyday life, through meetings, the smallest little gestures of life.
No need for always luminous experiences.
The luminous experiences are precisely those experiences of spiritual insight that will make us move forward in our path.
But the sacred is there all the time.
This is really the notion of our gaze.
Do we have a princely gaze on what is happening to us, or do we become victims and flatten everything?
Do we feel that everything is putting us in a position to get out of the animal status and go towards our divine vocation, towards our mutation?
And suddenly, everything takes on an immense flavor.
So the sacred is in each of my words.
It is to thank Him all the time.
It is to be in an infinite gratitude for everything He gives me, and beyond my desires.
So it goes much further than me.
And the sacred, when the person is in the sacred, I think it also kept me from a lot of bad things, in a way.
The fact of being in prayer, in prayer of the heart, before some extremely difficult operations, some not easy exams,
allowed me, this guard of prayer, not to succumb to anguish and to aggravate things.
It is to be really in this awareness that there is something that takes care of us beyond all this, and that does not want us to suffer.
In fact, we are just in a direction of accomplishment.
We are made of matter, so it hurts a little.
Matter hurts when it transforms.
But in the other dimension, the speed of light, all that is to accomplish us, to become beings of light.
In some situations, our faith can be tested.
Is this notion of faith important for you and for those you accompany?
It's funny, because these are questions that can be answered with a text, which dates back to about 3005,
which is called the Bhagavad Gita, the Song of the Blissful.
In the Song of the Blissful, there are several voices, which are called yogas, which means yoga, yoga.
And there is bhakti yoga, faith, worship.
It is one of the voices.
There is karma yoga.
It is service.
All my life, I thought, I have to be stupid, I said to myself, where am I going? There are people who die.
And then there is shnana yoga.
Shnana yoga is more like the Advaita.
It is, I will use my brain to go to the end, where it can no longer say, left, right.
And raja yoga, which is the sum of all yogas.
And this story is beautiful, because it is Arjuna who asks himself the question,
between, let's make it simple, his self-dharma and his dharma,
and it is Krishna who shows him the way.
And at the present time, we are here.
We have to find old things, and from there,
well, for me, to live is to serve,
in the sense of the Church, to be at their service.
For others, it's something else.
There is no one above the other.
It's just that.
So faith, the theological definition that I have,
because I was a theologian,
is absolute confidence and perfect knowledge.
So we are far from the faith of the charbonnier.
Someone who tells me, I believe.
I believe in nothing.