Ивелин Михайлов за Исторически парк в предаването Пътят по ТВ1

Hello, dear friends. You are watching TV1. I am Maria Damianova. Today, together with our guest, we will go to the first and only historical park in Bulgaria. I have invited Ivelin Mihailov, who is the initiator and promoter of this idea, to tell us as much as possible, within the framework of a show, about the historical park near Varna. Ivelin Mihailov was born in August 1977 in Gorno-Uryakhovica. He graduated in Electrical Engineering with a specialization in Industrial Electronics, and later graduated from the Department of Economics at the University of Varna. He worked as an insurance consultant, he took the position of Sales Director, led by the desire to unite management, finance, marketing, law and accounting in one, on October 27, 2007, he created his own company. Today he is the Chief Executive Director of the Historical Park. Hello! I tried in this visit to say who you are. The information about you that I found on the Internet is quite extensive, but I gathered myself in these few statements. I hope they are true. And correct, exactly. Good. Are you still excited about the discovery that is coming soon to the historical park, which we will talk about in this show? Yes, I am excited about the discovery and I want to share that for 9 years, every step in the construction of this historical park, every day is an adventure for me. And for 9 years I have been experiencing an unceasing happiness to realize something that inspired me and so many people in Bulgaria. Can you imagine, for 9 years you have been excited because you are building it, because you are realizing your idea, and now the discovery, the guests, the officiality, this is another kind of emotion that, so to speak, completes a stage of the construction of this historical park. It is not finished entirely, there is still something to be done on it. It will not be completed while I am alive, because the historical park is such an object that is constantly growing. In Turkey there is a restoration of an old ancient city, Ephesus. And every year the tourists go again and again, and we are the same tourists, to see how far the restoration of this city has come. Our story is so extensive, so interesting, that we can, 10 lives, restore only what our ancestors did, and yet there will be something else to do. So the historical park is conceived as a project that every year, when a person goes and visits it, to see how it blooms. It is like a rose that does not have its peak, to bloom and to begin to bloom, and within our lives it will not begin to bloom, it will just bloom. Is this how this park is set up, to be built constantly? Was this your idea, to start from there? When was this idea born? The idea was born 9 years ago, because I read an article that made me imagine something that I see every day, but I did not pay attention to it, buried in my own problems, and the article was that Bulgarians are the fastest growing people in the world, they disappear very quickly, and that Bulgaria is in danger of disappearing. We have two types of abduction of people from Bulgaria. One is because of their birth rate, and the second is because of the people who go to live abroad, in search of a better life and a better community, because we have lost Bulgaria in the last 30 years. And then a feeling arose in me, which, even as a child, I always wanted to go back to the time when Bulgaria needed people who were ready to sacrifice their lives, to do something so that it could continue better. I know that years ago, if our ancestors, 1350, 1360, 1390, could see what would happen to their children, they would have made other choices, other decisions, so that Bulgaria could take a different path, because so much suffering is not necessary to endure again. And I always thought that in my time it would not be necessary for something like this to happen again. But reading this article, I saw that we are faced with such a threat again, which is more insidious, because when you have a real enemy, you see this enemy, at least you mobilize against him. But the poison in the air, when you see it, it is quiet and gradually kills our nation very badly. And I wondered what I could do in two directions. The first, and a very important direction, is to restore the spirit of the Bulgarians, to feel like one again, not everyone to think for himself, and secondly, to be an economic generator, to give people the opportunity to realize their business here in Bulgaria, not abroad. And sitting down to make an analysis of what population we have at the moment, what are the qualities of this population, what are our assumptions, where to focus the effort, what should I do to be able to help to revive Bulgaria, to revive it again. And that's where I saw that history should be somewhere within the framework of tourism. We are monopolists there, no one can take your history. Many people would pay to have our history, because they can exploit it. Let me give you an example. The United States with Captain America, Spider-Man, Iron Man. These are absolutely imaginable heroes, but they managed to make people believe that they are real. And now people go with Leninsky to these heroes, believe in them, they go, watch movies, this is the whole industry. So they did something out of nothing, and we have real heroes, and we do nothing to take advantage of what our ancestors inherited. And then I decided to make a historical park, because what we miss, as Bulgarians, is to go and be proud. I always tell people that communication is on two levels. For example, I communicate with you, this is one level, but more importantly, I communicate with myself. If I like myself, I respect myself, the communication with you will always be better. And in the first place, we have to learn to communicate with ourselves and to like ourselves. And in the West, there are many monuments of culture that are preserved, and we go there, admiring the monuments and admiring the Westerners. I wanted to build such monuments in Bulgaria, so that we could like ourselves. With whom did you share this idea? First, I shared it with a team of people who have been working so far, and I told them, we are going to make a historical park. And they looked at me as if I had learned to recognize people through communication. What was their first reaction? They were silent. I looked into their eyes and thought, am I crazy? What did they say? Nothing. Are you sure? How is it going to happen? Is it a big project? Can we do it? What are your ideas? That was their reaction. When you started to design this project, did you listen to the team? Or did you just start what you had in mind? Later, when I decided to realize the project, we had to find new members for the team, who were missing as specialists in archaeology. To make a park, the first communication had to be with us. We had to be sure that we did a good job. We contacted archaeologists to help us to construct the buildings in the park itself, so that we could follow the science, all the achievements we had so far. First, we turned to such specialists. Second, we turned to the world's largest experts. Third, we turned to architects, landscape architects, people who could help us to design this project. We turned to people from the tourism industry. We hit rock bottom because he fell asleep in Bulgaria. We had to go around the world to find members who could teach us how to design this project. How big is the team? It's huge. More than 4,000 people have worked so far on the project Historic Park. When you say 4,000, you mean the workers, builders, bricklayers, all kinds of people, right? The bricklayers are the smaller part. They are people who can find more than 4,000 people in different fields. How did you start popularizing this project so that more people could learn about it, become aware of it, and now it becomes accessible? Initially, we had another plan. Our idea was to build it, to make a business plan, to buy the land, to make an architectural plan, to remove all administrative obstacles and to sell it to a Western investor. At first, we thought about a large Bulgarian investor. For a project like this, you need huge funds that we couldn't afford. Our first step was to develop everything and then remove the obstacles. A large investor, whether Bulgarian or foreign, doesn't have to deal with the whole design, with all the small details. It takes years of work. It took about six years and you have to synchronize a lot of people. They are used to going with the finished product. We worked for six years to make this project and to make it ready for construction. First, we went to Bulgarian businessmen. I communicated with one hundred of the richest people in Bulgaria. I saw that these people are more interested in making something for the country. I realized that they are not my potential employees in this direction. Then I turned to Western companies. At first, we focused on Chinese companies because they want to enter Bulgaria. We went to China and made meetings with ten chosen companies who are our potential investors. In the end, we selected only three out of these ten. We invited them back because they had to come to see and get to know everything. With two of these companies we reached the end of the deal. They offered us certain conditions in which everything could happen. The whole change in my plan happened in the evening with one of the Chinese investors. I wanted to make something for Bulgaria so that more Bulgarians could develop their business in Bulgaria based on this park. It is always a big project. It is like a big ship with very few people around who have to help it do all the work. This created a lot of people in the country and I saw it as young specialists who could stay here and not go abroad. We made a business plan with three main regions. Bulgarian, Balkan and European. These were the three regions where the tourist strategies came from and how to attract them. I sat down to talk to the Chinese investor and he interrupted me and said, we are not interested in this because these are our clients and that is enough. When the Chinese tourists come everything else disappears. I started thinking about what he was saying and asked him a few questions and what I found. Actually, the Chinese companies know that at some point their tourists will come to Europe. What do they want? They want to buy a piece of land where their tourists will come. The profits will go back to China and everything will be already in Europe but everything will go back to China. I said to myself, what am I going to do? I am selling the last bastion that is left of Bulgaria to be a self-governing country. I will make some money and there will be applause but my ultimate goal will not happen. Even then I shared with one of my former co-founders that we are not going to do this. We are giving up on the deal and he said, this is a big project and there is no way to implement it. I said, just wait and see how we are going to do it without them. Even my co-founder gave up on the project. He did not see how it could happen. I decided to do it in Bulgaria to find enough individuals to build it together. I made another change in the construction plan and started to think about the next step. This is how we got to the discovery. Were there people besides your co-founder who gave up in the beginning? Were there other people who wanted to stop you? How did your family react? Did your relatives support you? Or were there people who doubted what you were doing? I have been living apart from my parents for a long time. I have been living with my grandparents all my life. Since 1997, when I left the barracks, I have been living far away from them. My mother and grandmother live in Gorna Orehovitsa. My father is in Pleven. I am in Varna. We rarely see each other. My wife has always supported me. She has never said anything. She has always believed in me more than I have believed in myself. But there have been strange people in the process of my work. There are always people who, for one reason or another, want to stop things. This is mostly due to their inner ego or somehow they are afraid that this will affect their market. Very often they fear the last thing that made me a strange impression. For example, many museum directors are afraid that we will take one of their clients. This is exactly the opposite. Historical Park will attract a lot of strangers and will fill other museums and other landmarks with which more funds will be allocated for restoration and reconstruction. Or Historical Park will make a new, dried-up lake, water will flow and for all plants more will grow. This is strange, but I think it is not surprising. I have not thought about it because I am a positive person. When something happens in a city, for example, they build a nice building and I am happy because the city is mine and I will see it every day. It does not matter that I do not have a lawyer. I feel better because I live in a better place. I have always been happy about people who succeed. When someone does something, I can do it too. This is a proof that things can get better I have never thought that I can help someone to get better. Sometimes I am surprised by the kind of reactions I get. But I have learned to accept them. Dear friends, you are with the show The Road. Our guest today is Ivelin Mihailov who tells us about the history of the Historical Park which was recently discovered near Varna. It is 30 km from Varna to the village of Neofit. Is this park really the biggest in the world? Yes, and I will tell you why. Because in the whole world when someone studies the world history he will see that there are many countries that have a peak moment in the world history. They are the leading force. But usually after this peak moment there is a decline and they never recover. Unlike everyone else we are like a phoenix. We are not like the fireflies that go into the fire and burn them. In our country there are many ups and downs of human civilization and for a long time we are like a hole and despite the decline we find a way to rise again. This makes our history very diverse. For this reason we can show many beautiful eras that are unparalleled in the whole world. This gives the opportunity for our park to be the largest in terms of time. Secondly, abroad there are no masters. There are no people who work by hand. The advancement of technology and the western way of life, the western society people have focused a lot on money and fast results. Imagine how many people would have built something in 9 years without a single cent. This is 9 years of hard work without winning anything. Few people would have waited and many would have said I could die during this time. They want it now. This is the modern way of the western culture. The eastern culture is a bit different. We think in eternity and thanks to communism many things were developed. Communism is not the system itself. We know that every system has its pros and cons. There were many people who were true masters, true creators. Back then you didn't have fast work. You waited 20 years for a car, for a TV, for a fridge. Everything was planned in a different way. People spent more time developing themselves. We have a lot of masters. The people who work here are over 40 years old. All of them are from an older generation when things were different. There are not many people in the west and it is very expensive This park cannot be built in the west. It would cost billions. They have to gather people from all over the world. This is very expensive. That is why in the west the culture only develops around the preserved monuments. They are from a later stage. They are from the 16th century because they will be reconstructed. They have a rise in the period. In history, for example, in Paris they have Versailles. No one can make a second Versailles. They have it. You will see it. In Russia they have Petrodvorets or the Kremlin. You have them. You will see them. They are positioned in places that cannot be modeled because they are monuments of culture. What we did on an empty ground was to restore the real monuments without restrictions like destroying something because we are rebuilding it. We have the advantage that in Bulgaria everything is destroyed and when it is restored we do not compete with something that has it even though we do not make a copy of the Rilski Monastery. It is beautiful there. At the beginning of the interview you said that you have seen a lot of such world parks, attractions that you have connected with the international organization. This means that you have used the experience they have abroad. Which attractions did you have in mind when you started to build our historical park? The closest to our attraction are Archeon which is in Holland and Puy du Fou which is in France. When were they built? Archeon started in 1996, the plan for it, the idea, but it did not succeed. It failed in the beginning because they used European funding. At some point it finished and the project finished. It did not grow on its own but in an incubator. Puy du Fou started in 1977. Puy du Fou is an old aristocrat who decided to rebuild the castle. Going step by step it is a very slow process. For example, in France they are rebuilding a castle that has been built for 20 years and still has a long way to go. He decided to make a festival in his old estate. He made a festival and gathered a lot of people and decided to make such festivals. Puy du Fou itself is more like a circus. Like Cirque du Soleil it is a new type of circus. There are animals, people, there are well-made shows. It is great to watch the show. But the buildings themselves are more like fairy tales. There is no authenticity but there is decoration to make the show. In fact, this park is decorated by professional stuntmen with animals. Why do I say that they are the closest to ours? Because the restoration of the history is being made. But Archeon is very small. There, for example, they restore and make the history. Holland does not have such an interesting history as ours. They have several houses from the Middle Ages that we can see in every city in Holland. They are aimed at the internal public. While we are aimed at the international public because in the world of cultural tourism there is a lot of development. But there are lost eras. One is erased with some kind of eraser. This is the era of the Thracians. There are films and there are so many restorations for them. But there is nothing that is restored. The era of the Bulgarians, of Byzantium, is the era that determines the history of the whole Eastern Europe. But since Byzantium is the territory of today's Turkey, if Turkey admits that they have conquered Byzantium, it means that Turkey itself will fall apart. How many eras are there from our history? Six eras. Will there be more? No. Will you expand it? We will expand it, but within the framework of these eras. Because we have switched to the year 1400. After the year 1400 in Bulgaria there are enough developed parks and cities that show our biticulture during the Ottoman Empire. We do not want to compete with them. Until then. A foreigner or a Bulgarian, if he is interested after this period, let him go and see what they have done. What is the total area of the park? Does this area increase during the construction of additional things? The total area that we planned at the moment is over 700 hectares. But it includes many things. The park itself is 136 hectares. Next to it there is a place for activities which is 500 hectares. Next to it there is a medieval house which is 75 hectares. Behind it there is a horse base which is 55 hectares. In front of it there is 150 hectares for congress tourism. The park is developing, but each thing is coming in addition. We are also making foreign acceptance agreements, Roman terms. We just want a person to enter a trip in time and to be able to stay there for a couple of weeks, to experience a real journey. It is not possible to look around in one day. Even what has been done at the moment, because we opened the park not 100% completed because we had announced the date. There were many Bulgarians from abroad who had planned vacations. They had done everything for this date. There was no way to change it. That is why we did the opening for free. At least we did not finish something else. Even this part, which is now open, there were people and my friends who went to see it. The first day I asked them how they saw it. They told me that the children had already seen half of it. The next day we will attack again. What can be seen at this stage? At this stage you can see. First, the prehistory. Because in Bulgaria civilization was born. What does it mean to be born civilization? Few people imagine that we are strong when we are united in the system. In the birth-community the people could unite up to 150 people. This was the ceiling of people who could unite to do something. In our country the system is being invented which allows people to unite in millions and billions. Or the modern model of governance. And here the first civilization is born. Here is the oldest gold treasure in the world. There are beautiful specimens from the houses and the culture of the people at that time. And first we will be able to see where we were born. Where the modern civilization was born. The second thing we will be able to see for the first time is the Thracian palace. This is the only one in the world. And we will be able to learn more about the life of the ancient Thracians, about Spartacus, Orpheus, about these mythological heroes, about these free-loving people who were very interesting, very cheerful, very different from the rest of the world. And really very brave and very free-loving. And in the third part we will be able to see the Early Middle Ages. The Early Middle Ages is actually a very dark period. Let's say, as we are after 1979, until 2000 you know that there were many difficult years. Then there was a difficult century. Because the whole world is moving, that is, it is collapsing. And when this order collapses, always when the order collapses, then come the people who are robbers. They take from those who create. And there was a terrible, terrible time. And then the Bulgarians come as sheriffs who manage to enter the river again. We, the Bulgarians, make 5-6 states. It's not just one. This is not something random, as they taught us. We were carriers of statehood. And we are already starting to reorganize to get out of all this chaos, to start building again. All that you are telling is happening with consultations with historians, right? Only with historians, with consultations for everything. That's why I say, our six years of not planning and we always try to get to every moment so that we can see if we are following the right direction. Even in prehistory, now during the construction, there was always an archaeologist who constantly told us what to do and how to do it. Was there a conflict between the historians about how things should be exactly? That's why we chose a group of historians to come and consult us on the spot. There will always be people who have a different opinion. But we chose those who are lovers of science. Because we know that in every area there are people who are lovers of science and people who are lovers of money. And we chose those who are lovers of science because they love their job. They don't do it for money, but because they want to see it. When you ask them why they do it, they will tell you because they can. But they are historians who have a good education, right? I can even say that they are from the old school and they are the ones with the greatest experience in Bulgaria. Yes. What you said at the beginning of the conversation is that you want to benefit from the next generation. Exactly. Do you think that this will really give the next generation the information that you have embedded in your main idea? At the beginning you asked me how I feel after the discovery. The discovery was the first rehearsal of what others will say and not what I will think. Because I like it. It's mine. My children like it a lot because it's mine. I'm used to it. And now it was the moment to see what other people will say about the project and not just what they will say but how they will feel. And we made a big event with over 30,000 people There were concerts, events outside the park, a lot of people, food, fun. And you know, after the birth, they gave me the field which was full of plastic and paper. It was a terrible mess. People went to throw... Yes, we like to throw. And here there was nothing. Everything was clean. There were no people to throw the paper somewhere. There were no people to make a conflict. There were no people to drink alcohol. The whole event reproduced so much energy that people didn't need stimulants to feel good. They were excited that they were together and there was something that united them. The park itself became a spiritual place that helps people to become better people when they go there. We have a friend who is a psychologist and I often ask her why she does this. You help a person who broke down. You help him, you fix him, you put him back in the environment and he breaks down again. And she tells me what to do. I say, in general, you have to solve things. There has to be a place where people go to live and become people, where they don't break down and become people. And we created this place which is a spiritual source for Jews in Jerusalem and for Muslims in Mecca. This is a spiritual source for Bulgarians. It has to be a place where people can find the opportunity to fix the broken down so that it doesn't happen again. You said a while ago that a part of the park is dedicated to activities. Exactly. What are your plans? I'll tell you. When I went to PewDiePie, I watched the show and I wanted to be a part of it. Not just to watch. But there is no such opportunity there. And we are working in this direction so that when a person comes he can be the main actor, the main character in the movie and not just a spectator. We want to encourage people to take action. We want to show them that life is not online. It is outside. For example, I go to train every day. What happens is that at the end of the day I am stronger than the others who haven't done it. You can turn on the TV and watch someone train, but the benefit is for the person who trains, not for him. I want to encourage people to take action so that at the end of the day they can be more valuable, to be more people. And what we see in the park, first of all, we return them to food. Years ago, Bulgarians were the longest living nation in the world. That was because of food and the way of life. It is not necessary for a person to run on a running track and to eat wrong food. First of all, it takes a lot of time. It takes time to eat, then to maintain a diet. It takes time to walk with an elevator and then to run. All things are made in such a way that you have to do one thing and then do another to neutralize it. If we can, as people, to organize our lives three times longer than in a normal life. For example, a year ago I was smoking three boxes a day. When I stopped smoking, I was free for about four hours a day. So we have to think what are the things that people do to us that really bring emotions and what are the things that we take as a doping because something is missing. We have to make our life so that we take doping from our daily actions. From my work, from my daily life, thanks to Historic Park for everything I do, I managed to find in my daily pleasure the light that I have and I don't have to look for it extravagantly. This is what we want to teach people. We have a big field where we can recreate all of this. Dear viewers, you are watching Our Guest Today, Evelin Mihailov, who is telling us about the Historic Park near Varna. Is the Historic Park going to have excursion guides there? Yes. Or will everyone go by themselves? There will be people who, if we call them excursion guides, will be in conflict with the definition of an excursion guide. Why? Because in Bulgaria and in the world excursion guides are professional people who take groups from abroad and spread them all over the country. Let's say that we will have guides or assistants who will tell about the park, will help a person to live more interestingly their journey in the park. We also have this type of games where when a person follows the game, he learns things about different eras. And in the end, reaching the end of the game, he learned something even more interesting. We have such interesting approaches with which a person, as we said, should be the main character and not just a spectator. We don't want him to walk around like a visitor in a museum. We want him to feel the park with all his senses and when he changes, we want him to be a better person than he was when he came. If a person decides to walk around the park alone, is there a route? Are there signs? Is there a way to navigate? There is. The path itself is made in such a way that it leads you to the places you have to reach. You start from somewhere and you reach the place where you can't get lost. In order to follow the eras, so as not to be confused. Yes, that's how the path is made. In each era, there are people who pay attention to him and help him understand more about the era itself. How many people can walk around a day? What is the capacity? The capacity of the park is about 2.5 million people per year. What does he do on a daily basis? Can't he move fast? He doesn't move on a daily basis because there is a lot of nature. Sometimes there are a lot of people and sometimes there are less. On Saturdays and Sundays he is more active. Think about it. If we don't work all year, we will work 8 months a year. That's 240 days. Or up to 10,000 people a year. That's a lot. And a lot, and not a lot. There are days when there are 30,000-40,000 people. I personally went to an event in Poland, a battle of Slavs and Vikings. There was a Viking market and there were about 130,000 people there for 3 days. And now, how much did you say? About 30,000 for 2 days. That's 15,000 a day. The first day was more. The second was less. Yes, less. And when we talked about this visit that is expected, what economic effect do you expect from this kind of tourism? It is tourism, what will happen there. What economic effect do you expect for the village that is closest to the historical park? This village already has a huge economic effect. First of all, the property of the people is very expensive. In Bulgaria, the biggest wealth is the house. And if someone increases the value of the house 2-3 times, it means that you are much richer than before. Are there already guest houses, hotels? We are making wonderful guest houses. Even now, we have Bulgarians from Volga Bulgaria who teach us in the kitchen of Volga Bulgarians. And I suggested at least two men and one woman. We have only one free guest house with two bedrooms. They are Muslims in Volga Bulgaria. There is no way for the woman to sleep with some of the men because they are religious. Not as extreme as in Turkey, but they are religious. And the two men should sleep in one bedroom. Now I will take you to another place where you can sit comfortably. And they said, this house is divine. We are ready to sleep in one bed, but only in this house. Why do you want them to show their kitchen? Because Volga Bulgaria is Bulgaria. It can be in another place, but this is Bulgaria. In the Middle Ages, Volga Bulgaria was a country that was given by Russia. The culture is given by Volga Bulgaria and Danube Bulgaria. We give them the alphabet, the language, the Old Bulgarian and the Old Russian. We give them the whole so-called Slavic world with our alphabet, liturgies, the whole literature, their world essence. And we give it to them. Volga Bulgaria gives them the architecture, gives them another type, or finishes the design of the Russian culture with the two Bulgarians who inject their essence in the modern Russia. And we want to show the Bulgarian cuisine there. Because one people, when he lives in different places, he has different neighbors and is formed in a different way. This is very interesting, as two brothers, who are in two different places, to see what happened to the people themselves. But they have their own beautiful cuisine, part of their cuisine remains in ours, there are some new things, it is also medieval, very interesting, useful, and this will be interesting for Bulgarians and foreigners to get to know. This is one of the lost Atlantis. This has never been there, and now we can see it again. We expect that there will be something from the old Bulgarian cuisine. And from the Thracian, and from the Roman, and from the Byzantine, and from the Bulgarian cuisine. What are your impressions after everything that happened with the historical park? Is there a place in Bulgaria for this type of tourism? Of course, not only that there is a place, this is vitally important for us. The difference between cultural tourism and alcohol tourism, is that alcohol tourism spends about 500 euros on one vacation and we make a lot of money. Cultural tourism spends between 3 and 5 thousand dollars on one vacation and it contributes to the development of the environment. Think about it, if you are in a company of low-intelligent people, drunkards, drug addicts, focused only on sex, after a year or two you change. On the contrary, if you are in a company of cultured people, this will affect you. The environment affects us a lot as people. By introducing a new type of tourism in Bulgaria, we will change the very nature of Bulgaria. I repeat, the event that was the moment of the discovery of the historical park, this is an event without drunkards, without alcohol and without drunkards. This is wonderful, what you are saying. How will you popularize the historical park from now on? How will the world learn about it? What we have done, we did not wait to build it to popularize it. We have already popularized it all over the world. The whole world is talking about the historical park. We have done this, yes, throughout the years we have worked in parallel in various missions. Now, what is left for us is the final touches to make the historical park. First, the representatives of the tour operators, the representatives of the open museums to come and see, to be convinced in what we have done and gradually to start connecting the flows on their own. So, we have done the work. We should not wait, as in the other, that I do not want to go first and then run. In the same way, this year I have come and during the construction of the historical park we have ensured the tourist flows, the direction in which we are moving and now we just have to move the ship, we have to set it on fire and launch it into the open sea. Where are these tourist flows expected from? From many countries. There is already an interest. There is an interest, so this year we will have from Macedonia, we will have from a few thousand Chinese, we will have this year tourists from Russia, we will have this year tourists from Germany, we will have this year tourists from England. Now there are Spanish tour operators who want to take the rights for Spain, Morocco and Latin America, at least strong in these territories. We have bloggers from many places, from Japan, Indonesia, from all over Europe and we are already starting with them. From France, from Romania we also have agreed tourist flows and we are already starting step by step to fill the park with foreigners, with Bulgarians. We are trying to do it smoothly so that my own staff can work. We are not in a hurry because sometimes when more people than we can accept we get a negative and we want everything to happen in the right way. I don't want to ask a question but it is important for the Bulgarians in my opinion. I read somewhere what is the price of the income tax which will be. There are stories that it is a bit high for let's say a family of four who wants to visit the park. Probably when you were thinking what this price will be you put in arithmetic everything you estimated. But still I ask you, isn't it a bit high this price? So we went backwards. Think about it. I want to have a nice home. I have to pay a higher price than a more expensive home. So if I rent this home and I pay more than the price sooner or later I will fail. And then I won't have this home. In Bulgaria we want to have nice things. But we are used to not paying for nice things and paying for bad things. I will give you an example. There is an aquapark with a ticket price of 40 RIL. A family of four goes there. The aquapark is absolutely cheap. But people go there because they know the price of the aquapark. I go to the cinema in Sofia and there are tickets for 18-19 RIL. 22 RIL for an hour and a half or two hours. And still I go to give them. I go to *** which is in Sofia. It costs me at least 30 RIL to eat one salad and one main course. Nothing else, just a salad and a main course. And I see so many people eating, drinking, consuming. I go to the store. I see construction workers. They come back. They take a ticket from *** and a box of cigarettes. This is something that costs 30 RIL. This is a matter of priorities. One person chooses what to feed himself. Should he feed the good and make the environment better or should he always live as a victim and ask for something for which he has no money. I also noticed one thing. We made a demo project to see how people will accept this type of installation and whether we will do it well. There is no way to make such a big park if we did not make a demo project. There was a night at the museums. We decided to join in and help the people who have no opportunity to come to the museums at night. It is not good for a person to chase some kind of end of life. Do you know what happened? People who had a lot of money I saw it on the cars. On average, the cars cost from 60 to 250 RIL. There were women who were investing 20-30 RIL for silicone. This is a type of investment from a man. And there were children who were always innocent. The children wanted to look and see. But the mother said that she did not have time to drag the child to say that she saw him and to go to the next free place assuming that they did not have money. I understand. And the last question that I will ask you is when you complete this project, what will you do? I will not finish it but what I decided to do. I want to return the money from this project because I also took a bigger risk than I could have taken. I just have to return the money. It does not matter when. After I return the money, all the income that I get from it I decided to donate it for schools. I want to invest more money to develop people in Bulgaria. To make them better. Many employers are afraid that there are no people. How can there be people if we do not create them? If we are capable and knowledgeable we must strive to pass this knowledge to other people. This is my dream. To give more people the power and knowledge to have more strong people around me. One thing I know. I am strong and I am not afraid of death. When it comes, I will do everything I want. I am not afraid of it. But I see that my children are not like me. And they will never become like me. Because children usually live in a slightly different way. But if I manage to build a society of mutual assistance I have no problem with my children. Because no one will compete with them. And they will help each other. It is not necessary for them to be the highest in society. Let them be what they want to be. But there should be people around them who notice them, who are ready to help them. And they should be people who notice others and are willing to help them. This direction will lead everyone from Syria to the end of their lives. Good. I wish you success in all your endeavors. I wish you to complete the park as you imagined it in its final form. And to continue doing what you just told us about. At the end of our conversation I will offer you a story that you know very well. The story about the tree. A father had four sons. He wanted to teach them the wisdom of his years of experience and most of all to teach them not to judge things too quickly. When the boys grew up their father decided to give them a lesson. He sent each of them to observe a pear tree which was far from their home. After all the boys completed their tasks and returned home their father gathered them and asked each of them to describe what he saw exactly. The oldest son was near the pear tree in the winter. He shared that the tree looked terrible. It was open, it looked like it was dry and its branches were covered with ice and snow. The second son went through the spring. He did not agree with his brother and said, the tree was fresh and green but it was also open. It was overflowing with life and it looked full of promises. The third brother wanted to visit the tree in the summer. He told everyone that the tree was covered with flowers and it smelled sweet. I was charmed by the view and I thought that I have never seen anything more beautiful in my life. The youngest brother was near the tree in the autumn. He said, you are wrong. The tree was fully ripe and it was starting to bloom. And around it was an unknown satisfaction. After he listened to his sons, the father smiled and said, you are all right because each of you has seen only one of the seasons in the life of this pear tree. Remember and never judge a tree or a man for one of his seasons. Satisfaction, joy, love, wisdom that determine the essence of life can be measured only when all the seasons have passed. If you consider yourself victorious in the winter, you may lose the promise of the spring. You may not see the charm of the summer and you may not feel the satisfaction of the autumn because only the season waits for a better morning. Dear friends, be persistent, follow your dreams to wait for a better morning. The path is not passed by a person who is persistent in his actions. I introduced you to Evelyn Mikhailov. I am waiting for you next week at the same time. Stay tuned to TV1.