Border journalist and former law-enforcement officer Jaeson Jones says the U.S.–Mexico border is “more secure than we’ve ever seen.” Jones explains “mirroring operations” with the Mexican National Guard, how ICE enforcement shapes migrant perception—a key driver of deterrence, how the cartel networks use encrypted communications and how “The fastest way to public safety is mass deportation.”
We have never seen the border as secure
as it is right now. Like the data
validates it. But let's talk granularity
for a second. Never mind data. That's
one part of it. Let's just talk about
what we see on the ground. First off,
you have 10,000 National Guard soldiers
from Mexico deployed. Now, their
National Guard is completely different
from ours. Don't try to compare the two.
Then you have approximately 10,000 from
our side in addition. So that's 20,000
soldiers who are now working what they
call mirroring operations. We have never
seen that before and collaborating a
level from military to military uh
protecting each other's sovereignty but
also shutting down those halon networks
that operate all along that border
region. That in and of itself is
unprecedented. Then you overlay the new
capabilities of US border patrol and the
efforts uh from the Trump
administration. Look look everyone needs
to know that what we are seeing is truly
unprecedented. The data validates it but
it's really the granularity of the why.
It is the the the policies coming from
the Trump administration overlaid with
operations. You know, the policy is
right and that has stopped the
immigration issue at an unprecedented
level. What is pending though that
everyone needs to understand what
they're doing in these marrying
operations is shutting down the
infrastructure of the Halones. Now, the
Halones are scouts, falcons, and
lookouts. And every day they're doing
what they call miring operations. It's
where the US soldiers, Mexican soldiers
deploy together. I am the only US
journalist in the nation to inbed with
the Mexican uh special forces along with
what they call their secretariat of
national defense forces and go up and
down that border with them watching as
our soldiers along with US border patrol
and their soldiers work in tandem on
both sides of that borders to roll up
and down the river. It's incredible to
see as an old law enforcement officer.
The other part of this and then I'll
close is what you see from those
operations is not a lot of arrests. What
you see though is the illumination of
the networks operating so they can go
and attack those logistical cells who
for for all your viewers need to
understand they use handheld encrypted
radios. They use unencrypted radios.
They also use uh encrypted apps and that
allows them to illuminate those
operations through chatter and then shut
down those logistics and capabilities
that move in the drugs in and out and
have had what we call operational
control of the border. So it it's a
layering bounding effect that has major
implications and I can tell you in
report it's working.
>> So part of that practical shift that
you're seeing directly has to do with
domestic politics not just with the
Trump administration but in particular
ICE Immigration Customs Enforcement. Can
you talk about the extent by which ICE
is necessary to bring about those
changes you are describing right now?
Because I think there's a lot of
misinformation or perhaps deliberate
disinformation when it comes to IC's
role in tackling illegal immigration and
securing the southern border.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement now
led uh of course by DHS Secretary Gnome,
but with the guidance and the strategy
through Tom Holman, who is a close uh
friend of mine and and someone that I
was with Border 911 with speaking across
the country, the strategy has been
right. The policy has been right. And
the look, here's the deal. The
leveraging of Immigration and Customs
Enforcement to enforce the the laws of
those who are here illegally and to get
them out of the country, that seems like
a no-brainer. But you have to understand
what that means. It is spreading across
the world. The perception and perception
drives migration. Don't let anyone lie
to you. And I've said this a thousand
times. It shuts them down that if they
come here, they will be picked up and
they will be deported. Why spend all
that money to try to get here to put
yourself in harm's way with all of these
dark networks like the cartels and many
others, right? Make that long journey,
risk your life just to get here, to be
arrested, to be deported. And that
layering effect of the great work of the
Mexican national defense forces working
with US u forces overlay that with CBP
overlay that with ICE that effect that
that multi-layered layering effect has
huge consequences and you see it in the
data and the protection of the southwest
border right now.
>> So so let me push back and play devil's
advocate just for a moment. Why should
the average American, in your opinion,
care about illegal immigrants who are
not convicted felons, who they don't
view as dangerous or a threat? Why is
this an important issue in your eyes?
>> And I think it's a great question. The
fastest way, and I want to be very clear
on this, the fastest way to public
safety is through mass deportation.
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