LIVE! How to Make Easy Hardwood Tongue and Groove Flooring from your own Trees.

Oh, you're going to have to give us a little bit of a break. We're new to this. We're trying to work out the bugs. And honestly the shop is the only place that I could do a live event. And realistically, I like these. I like to be able to connect with you guys and answer questions live and not just make videos for it. But, um, guys, we've been here all week, Jason and I, uh, actually using the Woodmaster machine and we've been making a multitude of products. And I know today, we're going to talk about how we're going to make our tongue and groove flooring. And we'll finish up with that, but with the same exact machine, uh, with a little bit of change and set up, I mean, look guys, we did a bunch of cherry wood. It's beautiful. It's the first time I worked with this. This is very easy to mill, very easy to plane. Same here. Cedar. So we probably made close to 3,500 board feet of all the different products that we're going to show you this week. We've actually sealed some of them. We've stained some of them and we've hung some of them. And this is all the clear siding that we made and put into the couch house last week. So there you go. Now kind of the key to this is that we were doing the Hickory and this is the Hickory flooring that we've got going on right here. And this is from a clean cut board tree drop cut dried properly. And you can see how clean, clean the wood is. I mean, it actually came out beautiful. And this is actually the pieces we're going to make for you today. But we also cut up at the same time. I had these logs laying for two years before I cut infected with post beetle. People want to throw this away. Guys, this is rustic. Don't throw it away. It's don't throw it away. This is worth 10 times more than any other wood that you could actually sell. So hopefully you guys are seeing this and you're not just seeing the blank screen that Jay's got going on on his camera, but also with this, I'm going to grab this. I'll be right back. Spalted stuff is amazing. Amazing. Post beetle wood. We also planed and made all of our kitchen cabinet doors. We've already pressed, glued them, planed them. They're ready for edging. I mean, if you guys are rustic, you're not getting any more rustic than this. I mean, for 20 years in Arizona, we used to try to mimic and make it look like this. It's beautiful. You can't beat nature. And actually, sometimes bugs are good. But, you know, guys, if you're going to use this kind of wood, there's definitely a process to make sure the bugs are not still in there. And the same when you're making all of any of your tongue and groove material, anything that you have. Now we're cutting everything from live trees. We're actually milling everything back on our sawmill over here. And then we're actually properly drying it for maybe three or four months between air drying and solar kiln drying. And this wood is already you need to make sure 100 percent that your wood is dry, please, less than 10 percent. Eight is better. Eight or six. This stuff came out of the kiln that just under seven percent. So we are totally happy with it now. You can't size your boards and then drive them. These things are going to actually warp. They're going to turn. You actually have to size wider boards and everything that Jason and I do. We usually do 12 inch wide boards. Then I'll cut them down to the sizes that I want. These boards are going to warp. They're going to twist. You're going to have to cut out cracks. You're going to have to cut out knots. So it's definitely imperative to cut your boards wide. Let everything dry when it's dry. You need to size everything. Devin wants to he wants to he says he's been looking at the wood master machines on Facebook. He says, is there a specific model you recommend the biggest? Devin, they're actually all yeah, on the products that the projects that you want to do, like our kitchen cabinet doors, you wouldn't be able to do this kind of work on anything less than the 725. It's going to have to be 25 inches wide. I think they have an 18. I think they have a 15. I have the 725. I mean, for me, this machine is multiverse. I'll actually do a video one time of all the things that you can actually do on this machine. Either you can actually make molding, make your flooring, make your TNG, make your cabinets. You can plane, you can sand, you can gang rip saw. So if you guys have a small shop where you need to buy, it's an expensive tool. So but it does a multitude of things. If you're going to do all that kind of finish work or want to make your own stuff. This is one machine that you can have that can eliminate several other ones of buying like an individual planer, individual shaper, individual saw. But I'm going to say from cabinet work to molding work. This is beautiful. Right now, we have it set up. That's kind of why we have it open for you, because cutting tongue and groove flooring, the boards need to be all plain, four sides ready to go, because what we're going to be doing is when we come through the machine, it's first going to go through a set of cutters, which is going to find a piece. We got a finished piece right here on the deck. I left it right on the deck. So you're actually cutting the back grooves in this piece of wood, however you can get. There you go. Pretty cool. Okay. And this is going to eliminate cupping. You might read some articles where it, you know, talks about ventilation. But for me, I know by cutting the back of these boards, my wide boards that we're going to use, I'm not going to cup on my floor. They're going to be easy to install. And if you notice, when you buy from the store, it's the same exact way. I think if you were doing flooring, you definitely, definitely, definitely need to do this. Now, when we're doing our TNG for siding material, I don't do it. But it can be done. And maybe it should be done, but I really haven't run into a problem because I cut out and use perfectly flat boards. So even if they were cupped at one time, by the time I ran through my planer, we've straightened them out. And that's usually not a problem there. So where you can make this product with one pass through the Woodmaster, they can plane and cut. So we put our raw boards in just like this. We're not using the backside. You're not seeing it. So I just actually run it in. It's going to plane it, cut both grooves as it spits out the other side. This is it. This is the product that you get. It has no sealer on it. It has nothing. I don't think it would take long. I mean, those machines are expensive. But I mean, if you're doing a lot of processing, man, they're going to pay for itself in one way or another. It's true. I mean, we couldn't show you everything we made here. One, because we were thinking we were getting rain today, so I was setting up for a rain shoot. But if you look behind us, there's over 1,200 square feet of flooring there. And if you look at the bottom stack there, that's everything that we ripped through in maybe half a day yesterday. So you can actually, once you get going, you can actually make quite a bit of product. Devin says, buy once, cry once. I like that. It's true, Devin. It's true, Devin. I hate to say it, Devin, but, you know, you can look around. I don't even know if I want to say this, but I actually bought this machine used. I got a really good deal from a guy, an old carpenter that couldn't use it, was hurt. And honestly, I had it shipped in from California, and it was worth it, worth every penny of it. To be honest with you, I'd pay full price for this machine, brand new, right now, again, if I needed to. He said he's looking on Facebook Marketplace, it sounds like, which is probably a good way to go, too. It's kind of, you know the routine. You got to search around there. It's not an easy find. So, definitely would love it, Devin, I would assume. It sounds like from what you're going to be doing. What you're doing. If you're going to be finishing a house, I mean, this is a lot of our guys are here to talk timber framing, and we do a lot of saw milling, but we also do a lot of processing in our shop because Jason and I build the houses from the ground. Everything, everything that's made into a house, we've actually made, processed here. I mean, obviously not the wiring, whatever little pieces of drywall I have to use. That's next. We'll learn to make wiring later. We'll make wiring. Can you make wiring from trees, Dan? I don't know if you can, but. So, I mean, guys, it's, you know, this product here for making TNG, siding material, wainscoting. You want to build cabinets out of it, tongue and groove doors. I mean, actually, the creativity is endless of what you can do and make, actually, with these different products. Now, we're blending my house together because we're trying to accent everything. So, our kitchen cabinet doors are going to have this spalted here. We picked out certain portions of the house to accent that kitchen, and we're going to use this as some wainscoting up on top. And then you basically, we're also going to be cutting. This is also a whole pile of this that we're going to integrate into our floor. We're going to integrate it into our here, build a pattern. So, it's going to tie our new wood to our old wood, to our kitchen, to our wainscoting, and it's all not too much. It's all bits and pieces. And when we get it up, I think you'll agree. But Jason and I have been doing a ton of work over at the Carriage House and really finished up the cedar and the poplar, and we need this material. So, this isn't just for show. We're actually here, you know, working this stuff out. So, I mean, guys, the most important things with this is that your wood is dry. I'm not going to bore you anymore with that. Make sure it's dry. Some guys don't have their own wood, and they buy a whole bunch from the store. Now you don't have to worry about it. You don't have to go through any of your processing. But if you want the trick to make any of this, your boards have to be straight. They can't be curved. They cannot in any way have, you know, multitudes of sizes. It needs to be a straight cut because we're pushing it through this machine, and we're running through our guide rails as tight as you can see. Now I'm running hickory, which is a little bit harder than working with the cedar, the cherry, and the poplar. This wood is hard. So, we're getting a little bit more tear out, which means every once in a while, the actual board will chip off. Right. Here's a little piece of tear out here. So, you got your camera back on. I don't know what's going on. I don't have a bunch of it. Now, you also need to remember when you're making your own, and on this machine in particular, that you need to check. So, when it's coming through the machine, and it gets past the molding stage, gets past this second roller, this piece doesn't have it. I wish, we'll find a piece. Maybe we'll cut a piece like that. But usually there's back four inches here. There's a possibility of the board having a little slight imperfection. So, you need to know when you're making your material, don't cut yourself short. Give yourself three or four inches on each side. Now, the stacks of wood that we bring over here coming off the mill, I mean, these have all been processed, all been planed, and now you see they're all different sizes because through each stage that we're actually making this wood, we're cutting out knots, we're cutting out cracks, we're cutting out imperfections. We're cutting out things we know are gonna actually hurt our machine on the way through. So, even through this process, I'm even cutting boards right off the end here. So, they might pass our hand, by the time they passed their hand on the saw, inside the kiln, cutting it through the sawmill here, sizing it, planing it. We've touched it 10 times. You love this board. So, we just basically, each time we do that, cutting off the bad stuff and just keep moving on because when you're doing TNG, you're doing wenge coating, you're doing flooring, you need a multitude of pieces. Two foot piece, two foot piece. You get to a job and you're short of two foot piece, short of two foot piece. I mean, you don't really wanna come back and have to do that. So, me, I try to make everything that I can. At the end, if I have to store it, throw it away, give it away, or whatever. But honestly, I'm usually pretty tight at what we make. We end up with sawdust on the floor and lucky that the project was done. You're pretty good at that, Dan. I don't know how you do it, but. It's a good old guesstimate. 40 years of guesstimation. We don't have a lot of waste, folks. Here's some of our waste, just from an entire day of trimming down boards. That's not much. So, Dan's got a knack for getting us the most out of our material. Saving money, guys, saving money. It's money in the bank, man. So, is that a penny saved is a penny earned? Or a penny earned, something like that. Penny earned, yep. So, does anybody got any questions? Wanna ask anything about this process going on here? Before we fire stuff up? You need to look more into the machine, how the molding goes on here. I mean, you can see that this has two router setups. There's a setup, top and bottom. When you buy your Woodmaster, you do need to get your bits through them. And, honestly, they're ridiculously awesome bits. But, it's because they're actually designed to, be good if I got a pair of the same bits. I have a lot of these things, guys. So, it's a pair. One of them's upside down, one's right side up. You're not gonna be able to just buy a tongue and groove bit and make it work, because everything will be opposite. But these high speed, I mean, these are ridiculous. I don't know how many thousands of feet I've cut with this, but I know we did at least two or 3,000 this week. So, it's still sharp, sharp, sharp as nails. Now, I do have the flooring bit in here that is a little different, because you're doing tongue and groove flooring. Now, if any of you guys have ever really done tongue and groove flooring before, you can see. This is actually the v-groove. So, the tongue here is square. I don't wanna say a little bit more difficult to get in there. So, if you've been on your back all day and you're installing flooring all the time, trust me, you want it to go back in easy. So, they're new bits that they have, and this is the first time I'm running this. First, first time. You can actually see that the tongue itself is round. And an excellent addition that they put in, and it's very hard to see. You see this groove bit that they put in here? This is exactly where, when you're toenailing in, that you're gonna be able to counter-sink your nails. It's not gonna have another problem. That's really nice. It's really nice. I'm excited to install it. The last batch that, you see? Here, look. Guys, you see with the round edge? Boom, you're in, you're nailing, you're moving. I mean, this is tight. I'm not even squeezing it yet, and it's tight. So, you can see, we are gonna sand our floor. We're pretty close. I mean, I could make Jay go over with a belt sander. We'll sand the floor. It really is, and every piece is accurate, because when we're actually doing, instead of when we're doing finished tongue and groove this way, where we're cutting the good side up because it's getting planed, this whole process is done in reverse, because we're cutting the grooves for the back. So, the good part about that is the top of your flooring is always what's getting gauged on your table. So, the heights of these boards, for us, we've done quite a bit of it. I make Jay check every one. I probably should stop, because they really fit. It's good to check them. Right here. You never know. If you wanted to look right here on the end, you can see, so you need to be aware of this. Just right here, where the board starts to separate. That's where it came off the machine. Maybe it gets kicked a little bit when it comes off that second roller. It's still only being pinched by one other roller. You might hit it. You might not. But, you just gotta be aware of it. Us, we just normally chop off the first four feet, four feet, excuse me, four inches, and square off from there. There's plenty to come through without that, though, too. So, it's not like every way. It just depends on the wood, really, and you know. So, as you'll see, the wood we're putting through, I don't actually, I'm not 100% totally concerned about getting, you know, I'm cutting off the knots, cutting off the things that are a problem with the board, but if there's a little imperfection, like this one on the board, I'm still gonna run it, because I know I gotta cut four inches off anyway. If I cut it off now, I'm gonna lose another four inches. So, you just gotta be aware, cognizant of what, you know, is going on. So, guys, that's how that works here. Now, with the two routers, if you're trying to get. Let me show the over-under real quick, I guess. Go under. Because I mean, because it is two, one router's upside down. It is. There you go. It is two routers. So, by one, the boards have to be straight, or two, if you have a wave in your board, these routers are not gonna move, but you might dig way into that wood. You could actually do some harm to your bit. You could do some harm to that. It's not gonna wanna squeeze through here. Now, I know a lot of guys that don't have this machine. You can do this on a shaper. Now, my shaper's not up here in the mill shop. It's down at the other shop. But if you're going to do it on a shaper, I would recommend the feed system, just so that the boards are getting fed through at the same time. Let's say, not the same time, but a timing schedule. It's not your hands bumping it along. It's just one complete smooth cut. But you're still gonna have to build yourself these feather board racks, where these boards need to go in straight. Now, if your board isn't straight, and you try to put a warp board in, what's a warp board gonna do on a fence? It's not. It's gonna pull out. It's gonna kick. You're just not gonna get any good product out of it. You'll probably be frustrated. So, really, the straight, straight boards, whether you're doing it on my machine here, this machine, you're gonna have to do it. One whole time, do the whole stack, change your bits, and then reset your gauge, and do the whole stack. It's just an extra process. And for doing hickory hardwood flooring, it just adds another third process, because you have to cut your grooves here on the back. It's simple as that. Now, they do make bits for the shaper, as well, that can do this. Now, you've turned it into a three-step process for us. Time is a little bit of money, I guess, because we're running out of time. We're old. So, we like, and we make a lot of product. I mean, we punch through a lot of product. We do make a lot of stuff. Yeah, I know. So, I know that pile looks big to me. I'm thinking, what are we gonna do for the rest of the day? I don't know what I'm doing. Thanks, Devin. Yeah, Devin said he definitely can't wait to meet and talk timber and learn from you guys. We're gonna talk some timber. He's too close. That's my Knoxville, my new Knoxville buddy. Is Devin, Devin, are you, is that where he's at? Devin up in, up north a little bit. Can they, I believe- He's up north? Yeah, he's up north. I believe he's in Knoxville, Jay. I gotcha. Okay. He said he's building, just getting ready to build all his tools from the ground up now. I know. I've been doing the same myself. He's in Rocky Top. Oh, you need a hand there? You want me, I can put this thing down. Yeah, let me see if I can do it, Jay. It is formally a two-guys job. Look at that. Watch your back, man. I'm gonna need a break, fellas. Safety second. See? All right. Get it done. That's the motto, get it done. All right, so we're gonna put this thing back together, guys. Give us a few seconds. We'll get this thing put back together and get it running. So, for two seconds, I did want to show you about all that. Yeah, I did want to try to just tell you about all the little processes that need to happen going on with this, and really how to make flooring that you're gonna be happy with. I mean, naturally it's gonna take some practice and things. I mean, we have to use some pieces as we're gauging everything in, so. We run some pieces that aren't perfect. We just gauge the machines in, and hopefully she runs good for us this morning. But we usually don't tell anybody about that, but now we do. The secret's out. Mistakes are mistakes. They happen. We're telling them now, Jay. Yeah. Machines are machines. To err is human. Or Jason. To err is Jason. Anyway, so we're getting back on. Got the shroud back on, guys and gals. There we go. And you can see here where we've done just some, put some extra bracing in just because we're dealing with such hard wood. Put these braces in just to, you know, to sort of give us a little bit of extra stability so we're not always having to adjust these, the feather boards or whatever we want to, guides at this point, not really feather boards. So yeah, we're gonna get this thing fired up. And these things cut. Let's see if I can get in here and see, you can see the blades that we're talking about on the router. See if I can get you a view down here. No, I can't. All right. Anyway, we're almost set up. We've got our suction system. This thing will spit. As you can see, this is after cleanup yesterday. So this thing will, will spit. So it's going to get loud in here. We'll set up and we'll run some stuff for you. So let's see if they just talk about your new deflection system. Oh yeah. Check this out. We'll see if this works. We've been getting spits a lot and there may even be something for it. Wood master, but we took a piece of Kydex and just strapped it on here this morning to see if it, you know, to help guide some stuff into the vacuum system because this thing, again, you'll see it spits like crazy. So yeah, great machine, great machine. Very solid, very messy. But most wood shops are like this. I mean, what do we got, Dan? So we're coming in. Hey, good morning. Thistle Maple Farm. Nate, is it in the house? Nate is in the house. How are you feeling, Nate? You only, he only pops in for the actual machine running. That's right. He wants to see. He wants to build those pegs. Nate, you got to come down from Ohio, man. Come check out the wood master. He's doing really good. That's good. We're about ready to fire this thing up and run some wood. Let's fire it up. All right. Ready for this vacuum? It's going to get loud, but we should be okay. Other vacuum, second vacuum system. There she goes. We're just running this one into a secondary system just to try to catch as much as we can. So, hey, you're taking up your boards. This is your finished flooring that you know you want to use here. I'm just trying to tell you. So you're actually looking, hey, what's going to be my best side? My best side. You want to make sure that your worst side, your backside is up. If you guys have questions, I'll be back, checking the camera. We almost didn't get our routers going, boys. That would have been bad. Haven't done this since yesterday. Woo! Well, this is hard work. Realistically, that would just continuously push that out. Day's unloading. Woo! There you go. Let's see. Yeah, Nate, we don't get days off. You know that. Nate's got a question about the grooves on the back. Is it relief cuts or moisture or movement? Moisture movement. You know, I'm not a scientist. That wasn't 100% one of my beliefs, but they do say by cutting through this on here that there's actually airflow that's able to get through your floor by the time you polyurethane and put your molding on the wall, put the sealer on the wall. I'm not going to fight him because that's not for me. I know that for Shirley, it's going to help with your cupping. And honestly, when you guys put this material down, because there's actually gaps in it where you have a spot where you're hitting the floor, you're not, you're hitting the floor. It actually sits a lot flatter. It goes together a lot smoother. You're actually not, so you're working on the floor. That's not a roller, it's the floor. You're working on the floor. You have more friction, okay? So it actually will slide. It's just going to work a little bit faster in the field for you as well. I've noticed that as an installer. I'm not sure that's why they do it, but I know the cupping. Talked about the airflow. Let's just say they're multifunctional channels. Let's call it a multifunctional channel. It's just that easy to cut two things out of one. That works, my friend. We like to have multifunctional, multi-usage. Multi-anything. We're multi-anything, guys. Thank you, Peggy. Richard says, morning, guys. I learned a lot from you. That's much appreciated. Thanks for stopping by. We love you, Peggy. You're always commenting on our stuff. Always, always, always. Thank you for joining us Sunday morning. Nate at Bissell Maple Farm says he's, it's his bucket list to make hickory flooring. Nate, this stuff is amazing. I mean. There you go. There's your hickory flooring, Nate. There's your hickory flooring. Come on. Now think about it. We're going to put it. I've got to find what I did with my spalted. Now you want to change it up a little bit. Where is the spalted maple? Might've got a little aggressive. We love you too, Peggy. Thank you. Oh yeah. Check this out. This is, I mean, I'm going to climb over this mess. I don't recommend that for everybody. There's the difference. They're both hickory wood. Now, of course it doesn't want to go. So, I mean, I'm not going to accent it just like this. You'll see. We're going to build a pattern into the floor, but it really, I think you're going to, you're going to pull in some really clean lines. A lot of this hickory has a lot of dark wood, dark spots, light spots, knots, which I love. I love all of it. Now the good, good thing, you know, about any of this TNG, and I didn't show you, you could take, they're all going to match. They're all going to go in. So I don't care what wood you use. As long as it's all playing to the same side, you can actually put multi woods together. Put your cedar, your cherry, your poplar. I don't know. Whatever creative thing you come up with. Gilly Custom, hey, thank you for stopping by. He said, hey, look, look, I made it. Nice looking work, guys. Thanks, Gilly. Gilly, that is my friend from Gilly Custom. My other timber framing buddy. I'm glad that you made it today. We're putting in the work. I know, and if anybody does watch any of these lives, you need to check out Gilly's YouTube channel. Yep, check him out. He is building himself a big old house. A big old house. Hey, what's he saying? Yeah, love that Hickory. Gilly, this stuff is so good to work with. I mean, I'm finding that personally, I prefer a lot of the hardwoods we get into than when we have to actually play with pine and stuff. I find that- I hate pine. I wasn't going to say it. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm a wood-loving guy. I hate pine. I got pine all over my machines, everything. The hardwood, it's just heavier, I don't know, it doesn't chisel quite. You can make that beautiful slice that you can out of pine. I know, but the machines love it. I mean, look at the cuts on that. You want hardwood for your floors. You know me, I'm just using it because I have so much hardwood and I'm just blending my houses together with what I can get a hold of. Nate, this will make a farm. They're saying you need to turn on super chats. You'd at least make enough to sharpen a router bit. Not sure what that means, but we'll look into it. You know, we're still kind of feeling our way through this. I was going to buy the router bit anyway because this project is going into my house, so we're good. Nate wants to know if we should save some chips to hickory smoke some protein. I don't think that's a problem. I'm not sure he can get, but what you do is you turn around the back of this thing. If you guys do not think about the amount of sawdust that you guys make. Let's take a sawdust. I don't know if you'll lose. Let's take a sawdust check. This yard is too, so for their bedding, so. But there's a lot of sawdust here and we're making bags of it and bins of it and everything. It's everywhere. Let's see what we got here. Gilly says he hates pine too, but it's what, hey, well you use what, and it grows on your property, but you know what, Gilly, you use what you've got. It actually, once it's done, I mean, it comes out beautifully, the pine. I just personally don't like it as much. But Gilly says that's what he's got on his property. I mean, that's what you use. That's what you got. And honestly, Gilly, most people timber frame with pine. I mean, that's the reality of it, my friend. So this isn't anything odd. And I did see your property on your video. I'd be cutting every one of those pines. I mean, honestly, I don't have as many pines like you do. My neighbor, who I can do anything I want at 35 acres of it. And Jason and I are, I got a cup 4,000 two-by-sixes because we're doing tongue and groove for our ceilings in the new barn that we're getting ready to do. I mean, so we've actually been in the shop. Jason and I have already got the main slab board for the timber frame barn. We're gonna start here in the beginning of the year. I need to get the carriage house finished. We put so much energy in building the roads. The summer was nice. We worked outside, we milled, we processed wood. It's time to finish. So carriage house is almost done. I mean, we're so close. The next sneak peek will be when it's done. I mean, guys, we've made kitchen cabinets out of all this stuff. I mean, from scratch, you'll see. If you stick with us, you'll see. It says we like pine because all we have is hardwoods on our property. I know, I'm like looking for my property for the victims I need. Where's that pine tree? Because I do need, we do need pine. I am gonna do all of the tongue and groove for the roofs of the barn in pine tongue and groove. But there you go, guys. There's a whole bunch of hickory. Some of it's a little spalted. We've got a mix of stuff going on there. So yeah, beautiful stuff. I don't think Gilly got to see the cherry. Yeah, let's see if Gilly, yeah, yeah. Check out the cherry. Is he still with us? I don't think Gilly's, I think Gilly's still here. Let's see. There you go, buddy. So Gilly, my friend. The cedar. Paul, this is the cedar that we cut also this week. And look, this cherry. I've never worked with it, but it is beautiful. We're gonna make, like I said, different accent pieces. I like that. I like that cherry a lot. I love that cherry. It was very easy to work with. Very similar to cedar. But here's kind of what I'm saying. You could, if I could get this thing. We're gonna give you a hand with. All right, there you go. You can start. So you can actually put different species together. You want to put pine? I don't know. You want to make a barber pole? Whatever comes to mind. Yeah. Cherry is awesome, Gilly. It is. He builds guitars out of it. That's cool. He does. Yeah. Buddy, tell me what you need. I got a whole bunch of cherry we're gonna attack. I'll get you some mate. That's right. I don't play the guitar, but I've heard some of your stuff. I like guitars. I just don't play it. We don't play it. So I don't know if I've left anything out of anybody else. Any questions? Has questions about anything? Anything. I'm open for timber talk. We like to do these lives, honestly, so we can chat with all you people. Devin says, I pretty much, let's see, I have, oops, I lost it. I have pretty much all just Southern yellow pine on my property. Previous owner clear cut after the beetles killed off all the other trees and replanted with Southern yellow. You use it. Use it. Use it, my friend. I've got a lot of lob lolly here that I've been saving because it's not free. I mean. When I say I don't like to work with pine, I just don't like to work with pine, but we still use tons of pine. Let's just say preferred wood. We love to work with all wood. That's the best. And I really, the only reason I don't is, I hate to say it, is the sap all over my saw, the sap all over me. Are you sensitive to sap, Dan? No, but the machine runs better cutting just hardwood. It does. Okay, no breakdowns. Miles on your belts. Miles on our saw blades. And the pine is just. You'd think it would be the opposite. You'd think it would cut pine so easily. You would. I mean, cedar, boom, blows right through a poplar. So it's just the way it is, guys. If that's what you got, that's what you got to use. If I had only pine, trust me, we'd be cutting pine. I'd be gooey and I wouldn't even know the difference. But I don't want to say unfortunately me. I'm all hardwood. Yeah. All hardwood. We got lots of it, so. So it would be a fortune to actually cut a hardwood timber frame. I mean, you know how much it is just in pine. They want three times as much for hardwood, so. All right, I think that's it for questions. I think we've, you know, I want to thank everybody for stopping in. I do. We'll get better at this connection. I mean, like I said, we're only stuck here because this is the only place we have wifi on this big property. Yeah. Well, then let us know in the comments, you know, things you want us to do for lives. If you like the lives and, you know, check it out. Let us know what you need. We've got so much going on, like Dan said. We're not just timber framing. We're doing everything. So if there's other people out there with other interests that we can push those to the pro, we'll do it. I mean, it's really from paper to putting up your mailbox, we do everything from site prep. We don't have a mailbox yet, though. But it's coming. We have it. My friend, Meyers Millwork, I thought would be around, man. He's my mailbox guy. All right. All right, everybody. Thanks, guys. Paul, thanks for stopping in, buddy. I'm glad that you made it. Guys, check out his channel. He's got some good stuff going on. Thanks, everybody. See ya. Yeah, Devin, we need Starlink. Well, we've got Highspeed. We just gotta, well, it's kind of complicated on the homestead here, but Timbertown's gonna get probably a fiber optic at some point. Yeah, we've got very poor cell signal. I mean, if we go J out there, we were lucky to shoot one live by the sawmill, but we're gonna hook ourselves up here. Trust me, man. In the beginning of the year, you're gonna get tired of us on our sawmill and timber framing because we've got nothing but giant logs that need to get sawed. All right, everybody says goodbye. Peace, everybody. Thank you, everybody. Appreciate it. I really appreciate it, guys. Thank you.