Game and Grub Episode 5: Subway Reuben / Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon

Hello and welcome to Game and Grub, where we play with our food. I'm your host, Jonathan, and with me is my co-host... I forgot my name. It's Hammy. Oh. Well, welcome, Hammy. Thank you. It's good to be back. This is our podcast. Yeah. Where we talk about games. And foods. Yeah. And grub. Yeah, which is fast food, typically. Yeah. Something quick, dirty, usually good. usually good um you wouldn't you wouldn't know from this podcast because it's usually you know we try new things and they're usually we found so far very few successes and guess what we're not breaking that streak today nope we had something incredibly foul today what do we have today jonathan oh and you know i don't know what it is if like we just decided you know hey it's a it's a sandwich shop right so so they they could probably make a sandwich sure that's i mean that that might be their the one job that might be the one thing that they're good at see i was on the other end of that i had no faith in subway doing anything right because it's one of those places that i just avoid completely because it's not good i don't like subway sandwiches i used to eat subway a lot when the footlongs were five dollars do you remember the age of the five dollar foot long i do and i remember that cool theme song um i don't i i don't want to pay five dollars even for that it's not fun it's not good it's every subway sandwich is completely mirthless and just uh not something i want in my mouth well i think it was quick dirty on the way home and like you could save half for later when you're uh you're on the go like if you gotta go camping or you gotta go do like a band thing like in high school like back when i was in high school Like, we would, I ate a lot of Subway when they had the, like, maybe once a week, once every two weeks. Hold on, you're gonna eat a Subway sandwich, which ostensibly has things like lettuce, tomato, onions on it. You're gonna eat half of it now and half of it four hours from now? Maybe. Does it keep? Yeah. Yes? Depends on which one you get. Like, a meatball wouldn't keep. And then, uh, school, like, uh, when I was going to college, they put in a Subway, and it was really the only thing, like, that was decent food on college campus. Uh, so... I disagree. We also had a delicious pizza pie that you could get. Yeah, but it wasn't five dollars. This greasy, delicious pizza pie. That's still cheap. And, uh, is there anything that you like at Subway? No! I like the bags of chips, because they don't touch them. I can get a bag of salt and vinegar Lay's. They recently, like, rebranded either the new cups. Cups and lids and straws. Those look cool now. This is a foul, foul restaurant that I'm glad I never have to step inside again. I mean, I guess, like, yeah, I would kind of rep their spicy Italian because it's basically pizza. But then again, you could just get a pizza. But I'm not defending Subway today because Subway has done me wrong. That's the start of it. I'm surprised we didn't get sick. That's true. i was i was just getting off being sick uh because i had food poisoning a few days ago yes um and so i was you know not having it uh not eating like anything but like dry toast maybe a saltine cracker uh i'm feeling feeling better enough to to do this podcast which usually is a bit of a stretch in the food realm you're usually getting i mean if i if i try to eat the farmhouse king on the day i had food poisoning boy wouldn't you believe you wouldn't be here today i would be you know in icu yep we had the reuben we had the reuben which i don't even want to call it that it was it was no reuben adjacent word that you was it even reuben adjacent all the ingredients for reuben today allegedly were present but calling this a reuben is like it's it's because it's a sandwich is like it's like calling it a pb and j it's like calling them a McRib barbecue yeah um it's as much a ruben sandwich as like a pb and j is also a sandwich i had to with every fiber of my being the second i had a bite of it i had to stop myself from cursing it was so foul yeah i i was took a bite and it was bad nothing worked jonathan what's normally in a Reuben, so a Reuben is a fantastic sandwich on pumpernickel or marble rye topped with corned beef uh sometimes pastrami sometimes another kind of meat generally a red dark flavorful meat uh then you've got uh you've got sauerkraut on it some either Thousand Island or Russian dressing maybe you panini it it's one of the it's very simple it's one of the classic sandwiches in America I would say yeah well it doesn't even feel like it it probably isn't American in origin well it's a Jewish deli thing and the Jewish deli is kind of an American thing okay then yeah i mean they existed in other places but they really thrived here at the turn of the century especially with the influx of Jewish immigrants in New York and you can still find some pretty solid Jewish delis in New York and in some places like Chicago sandwich yeah uh it's delicious it's and your cheese it's got cheese on it did I mention the cheese Swiss cheese yeah um I will say I got you got the one did you get the one turkey I got the corned beef one the turkey was just literally Subway's regular deli turkey sure and so basically uh in that way the Reuben would literally just be a turkey sandwich with some I got the corned beef and it tasted like ham to me yeah the corned beef wasn't good and i don't the corned beef wasn't good the Thousand Island wasn't good the sauerkraut, was it sauerkraut? the sauerkraut wasn't good and i gotta say the bread wasn't good it wasn't the right kind of bread it wasn't good look even when Mr Pickles started serving Reubens they that's a regional chain by the way Mr Pickles yeah even when our dumb regional sandwich chain brought out why do i keep mentioning regional chain on this show why do i not know that the restaurants around here are only regional yeah maybe i should get out more anyway even when they like added the Reuben to their menu for a limited time they brought out a loaf of actual like pumpernickel sure to put it on because like i don't know what percent of a sandwich's success is the bread would you say 99 i probably could have overlooked all the sins inside of the sandwich if it was for like a decent bread but it's that horrible plasticky Subway bread yeah what kind of bread did you get on it i got the regular plain white i at least got like the wheat thinking to you maybe maybe it'll be like a rye wasn't no don't don't go into a Subway with any sort of enthusiasm or wishes or hope and it's a it's a Subway so you know you have the option to put uh pepperoncinis jalapenos lettuce tomato clean on it i i think i added onions because i remember having a Reuben that was really good some diner somewhere that they had they had onions on it and it was you know it was a good Reuben so i was like i'll go with that maybe maybe i could save this uh because that corned beef looks a little scraggly uh maybe maybe an onion will uh will bring out something in it i couldn't finish mine uh the high point of my meal was the bag of chips with it uh they do come with a free bag of chips yeah um delicious what is it Auntie Anne's jalapeno kettle corn or kettle chips those are delicious the soda was refreshing um i had a root beer we're just talking about everything else yeah because if we talk about the sandwich we're just gonna get angry it's awful what are we gonna rate it in oh can i just complain more about the reuben sure please like i don't know like so the other thing i was there and i i went did you get a six inch or a foot long i got a six inch i wasn't gonna commit to a foot long did you get a foot long yep i was i was uh why would you do that i was headed to work and like i hadn't eaten anything most of the day and i was like okay i'll get a sand okay get a foot long and like my my work shift is like weird i get off at like 9 p.m which is like slightly past dinner time and i'm getting there slightly past lunch time but i haven't eaten lunch yet so i'll have like half now and then half god i hate the sandwich towards the end of my shift and god uh i got it toasted i did too because you it's a Reuben it's a hot sandwich uh the corned beef was not taste it was just it was like i don't know what it was i don't i don't know it maybe legally you could call it corned beef but it meets like the minimum legal requirements to be corned beef if there even are legal requirements for corned beef to exist i'd like to reiterate i hate the sandwich but then it toasted so the toasting melted the cheese uh he put some Thousand Island on it slaps it up bags it up ready to go i get to work five minutes later i go to the subway that's very close to where i work i open it up it's already cold somehow by some manner of science either they like aren't toasting this properly or like the corned beef was frozen when he put it on there so it like toasted toasted it to like a cold because it's cursed yeah the subway is run by gypsies i love you know that no i didn't know that yeah it's it's a gypsy owned company uh and then yeah so i like i microwaved it and you know it's always it's always good to microwave your sandwich that's you're making me hungry stop nothing's better than a microwave sub uh and actually you know the uh the corned beef being nuked in the microwave tasted a little bit better but not much can we stop talking about it not enough it's making me sick like just thinking about it it was you look physically ill oh i'm i probably look pissed like i am where do you where would you normally get a Reuben i would have to be like a sit-down restaurant or like a or like a local deli that i knew was good there's a local deli uh a few towns over okay that is really good and i'd probably order it from there there's a deli no there's a diner in san francisco i think called the pine crest okay makes a really good reuben that's probably uh one of my favorite rubens i gotta say this i don't think i'm gonna have a reuben for a long time i mean it's ruined it for me really yeah i usually like i like i like rubens it's one of my favorite sandwiches it's a delicious sandwich it's like one of the best sandwiches and they have destroyed that like the reuben at arby's is better than the reuben at subway i like the reuben at arby's i remember having just because the reuben at arby's on marble rye yeah they're like oh hey we're gonna make this sandwich that is like a icon a a total icon like a a juggernaut in the sandwich world should we put it on our regular arby's bun no let's get real yeah pumpernickel or marble rye bread to put it on subway's like nah not a good sandwich don't get the reuben don't get the reuben don't go to subway don't there's literally and there's infinitely you know you have all these choices hopefully hopefully you're not in a weird food desert gosh if you uh you only sandwich like go to the store buy bread don't seriously that's not even a bad uh like i hate the sandwich we're gonna rate because it's so horrible we're gonna rate it in Jared Fogle's because he's a criminal yeah and they're their spokesperson good job Jared Fogle yeah this is what we've been brought to you this might be his legacy like this might be the last the last thing he left the company with this cursed recipe for this for this Reuben um oh i'm gonna give and i'm gonna give this sandwich an unprecedented zero Fogles out of five all right i'm going to give it 0.5 Fogles out of five half if only okay if only sure because i get to slice a Jared Fogle in half for his crimes okay where are you going to slice them uh what half of Fogle are we going to i want the top half the bottom half is up to some interesting oh totally well that's not criminal criminal behavior that we don't need to discuss yeah the top half he's a spokesperson half and so i can i can peel his eyelids off and make him watch the Reuben being made over and over again on a loop and he can eat it too the Reuben tastes what i imagine prison food tasting like i don't think prison food is this bad i think i think we treat our prisoners humanely i think yeah in like a uh at least as far as third world country prison maybe okay like in a in a third world country prison where like they don't even they don't even like check if there's not a guard there's not anyone like watching you, sure you're just in a locked cell and they throw this wrapped every like once a week a Subway Reuben is sort of like tossed at you, yeah this is every bite of it was torture, every bite of it was just constant purgatory, how do you mess up sauerkraut? I don't know, it just it was it wasn't sauerkraut is like a strong thing, it wasn't good, stay away guys, stay away from Subway because I think it would be cool if like sauerkraut could be put on other Subway sandwiches, I'm mad at the sandwich, I'm a little bit mad at you, I think you suggested that we do this, look you were the one who said let's do a podcast, we'll review seasonal and exciting and new fast food items and I just you know we need to be a little bit pickier in the future we need to really evaluate, hey you know Subway is horrible but let's give it a chance because we went in we knew Arby's is a good restaurant, yeah so we went in thinking okay maybe I'll get this right they didn't, but at least Arby's is still pretty good, Subway is a sham from top to bottom and we we still gave them the benefit of the doubt it's still popular, people like Subway for some reason If you like Subway, why? If you like Subway, buy the Reuben. You deserve it. Yeah, you deserve that Reuben, and you deserve Subway. Deserve to eat cursed gypsy subs. Eat the Reuben and realize you should never go to Subway again. Let's wash this nasty taste out of our mouth. Please. Coming up next... Let's, like, can I just surf through an ocean of activity? That's not bad. But I was going to say, you know what I need? I need a vacation. Alola. See, we didn't know who was going to clock us in, but I'm glad that you took the initiative, and that's a good one to clock in on Alola now Alola is that the basically the translation of aloha in the actual universe it's yes okay because they don't say aloha welcome to the Alola region they say alola and they do a weird hand wave yeah they wave both hands you know like like mr miyagi is teaching them to wax off sure twice in a row sure um we're gonna be talking about pokemon ultra sun and ultra moon yeah and we might also talk about pokemon sun and moon because fun fact they're pretty similar yes um to the point where uh i you know i normally make time for games uh i was up till five or no i was up till two playing mario odyssey when that came out you're up till two playing uh i was up to two playing pocket camp and that came out um but i didn't find time to go down to the store and pick up animal cross or to pick up pokemon rather uh but you did you're kind of the resident pokemon i think i know about pokemon you know the nitty gritty you know like the really like in-depth thing you're you're definitely way into pokemon yeah i i definitely like i have some pokemon shirts i might have a pokemon hat um i go to pokemon events uh of this podcast i am the resident pokemon master you're our uh you're our expert cook sure i am our expert trainer we are both almost 30 years old and mine is a practical skill oh it's not do you put that on your resume do you put certified pokemon master no you should i might impress you know what eventually we'll impress somebody eventually we're going to be the ones in charge of... Give it five years. You're going to be in an interview for a job, and they're going to say, Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charmander. And without hesitation I'm going to say Bulbasaur. Okay. I think they'll respect any choice as long as you can defend it. Yeah. The only indefensible one is Squirtle, I think. But we're not talking about Pokemon... In general. In general. We're talking about Pokemon Ultra Sun and Moon. Yeah, which just came out recently. It's the sequel game to Pokemon Sun and Moon, which they've done before with black 2 and white 2 as far as released two sequel games uh previously it started with pokemon all the way back in gen 1 yellow version and they had crystal emerald uh platinum uh as the generations went through and then yeah with Pokemon Black and White and generation 5 the sequel game instead of being like generation Pokemon Gray or Pokemon like Prism or something like that they were like they made a sequel game Pokemon Black 2 and Pokemon White 2 which uh were actually really like they were games actually like felt a little bit different i know the progression certainly was different the different towns that you went to and everything yeah they had they also had uh it was a sequel storyline so as far as it took place after you have a the one of your companions in Pokemon Black and White was the first gym leader in Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 so like he had like stepped up and became rank of a gym leader in the break between between games Pokemon Ultra Sun and Moon plays more like Crystal Emerald or Yellow Version in that it is sort of just an alternate telling of the same story. It's got a lot more bells and whistles, there's a lot more mystery to it, but essentially it's the same game, which is what we were expecting. I mean, maybe I was hoping that it would be a sequel game like it was before with Black 2 and White 2, but, you know... I might have been inclined to pick it up on the first day if it was a little bit different. But there were some things that I saw in the previews, like Team Rainbow Rocket, and they barely touched on all that. And they added a few Pokemon. That looked pretty interesting. But if there are any, what were the big differences that you found in this game? Yeah, well, so the big difference, and usually with the third game in a Pokemon series, they they focus a lot on the uh the cover legendary that you didn't get to experience in the original game so like um in Crystal version uh Suikun was on the cover so i had to do a lot with Suikun in this game uh Necrozma is the the one who is like an ultra beast but not quite so that is sort of guiding the game that the new characters who are sort of following you around on your journey who weren't there before called the Ultra Recon Squad and they actually live in that Ultra Wormhole parallel universe and they're very technology driven uh they don't know a lot about uh sort of the customs of pokemon trainers and whatnot so they're still learning and they they try like they sort of pick some stuff up very slowly but they are trying to find a way to uh solve a problem and Necrozma is the problem and you know there's the fusion you see in the cover with uh now Solgaleo or Lunala their pokemon do they have Ultra Beasts like do they use Ultra Beasts when they're fighting uh they do they have there's a new alt there's three new Ultra Beasts one of them is an Ultra Beast with an evolution uh which is you know we weren't expecting that uh because the Ultra Beasts in a way are barely pokemon that it's it was weird looking at them to call them pokemon especially uh just from a from a gameplay or competitive standpoint the Ultra Beast is like everything a competitive pokemon player ever wanted they have uh most pokemon have like a balance in their stats they got a little bit of hp a little bit of defense a little bit of attack a little bit of speed it's all balanced out the ultra beast like pick two stats put all the points there and then everything else is super frail so you've got uh like a kartana which is very strong and very defensive and very fast but his special defense is super low he's he's a piece of paper he's very flimsy uh you've got celestela on the other hand who's not very strong but is incredibly bulky and pretty slow uh so they're they're really like one end of the spectrum or the other and so this this new uh ultra beast is no different it's like a poison dragon so it's kind of like a drag drag drag a lodge from uh from x and y okay generation seven i don't know if you remember i do okay yeah well uh it was like a poison horsey i suppose but yeah so there's a new new ultra beasts uh which are the only pokemon that were added uh pokemon from previous games uh you can find in the wild so if you were looking for that if you didn't play through sun and moon ultra sun and moon is a perfectly good time to jump in if you play through sun and moon and you're only playing these games uh for like the story you could probably pass on ultra sun ultra moon you probably watch a video to see the differences because there's not much uh you get to the end of the game you can catch a lot of the legendaries from previous games you catch Heatran you could catch griselia you catch thunderous slanderous uh depending on which version you get and that was the thing that they were started doing in uh Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire uh so as far as those were the the remake of games sort of the secondary games to X and Y uh and the way Nintendo uh or the Pokemon company kind of uses these games on the competitive scene is it's sort of like a patch uh because the second game always has move tutors in it and so the move tutors offer new move sets to different Pokemon so you have more variety in what attacks you can use uh which you know changes the competitive scene quite a bit um and then there's new legendaries and new Pokemon that are available in the Pokedex uh for actual use so that's that's kind of cool now it's not fair for me to rate it but what do you rate it um so i mean it's exactly what you asked for but it is it is a full priced 3DS game it's not like a DLC thing it's just yeah it's a full price and it is it is uh but i mean it's in the same way that so the problem i have with it is that it's two separate games it's Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon if it was gonna be uh like a platinum or an Emerald it should have just been uh Pokemon Stars so Sun Moon Stars should have like that yeah um if they were gonna do two games like with Black Two and White Two it should have been a sequel like a like a you at the end of Pokemon Sun and Moon and at the end of this game you win the first Pokemon League like the the islands of Alola decide that instead of just doing like the trial champion things on the four islands where you fight the four uh big kahunas and uh win the trial championship but they're gonna make gym leaders exactly and That's what I was looking forward to. Yeah, and I thought that we were going to play through a new Alola where there were eight gyms that were set up and you actually had to do gym battles and collect gym badges. And they would still do it a little differently because it's Alola. It's like the first time they've ever done the Pokemon League and they're trying it new. But instead, there's extra features of a story you've already played. that said do you think we're gonna see yet another game in this generation or do you think this is it for generation seven because that remains to be seen that whole you know league aspect do you think they're gonna either make dlc or or you know phone it into a different uh or is that what we're gonna get a taste of in the you know upcoming switch yeah i know that they've said the next the next pokemon games are gonna come out on the switch i think we're gonna have pokemon ultra sun ultra moon as a game at least uh in the competitive community for a while i think it's gonna have the same longevity that black 2 and white 2 had which was like a long a long while uh because i think those also came along alongside HeartGold and SoulSilver uh and so that was just a period there was a long period before Gen 5 and Gen 6 when X and Y basically blew everything out of the water and X and Y didn't have a sequel game there was no like Zygarde featured no uh Pokemon Z version no I think that it'll be a new generation on the Switch. Okay. I don't know if they'll make anything else out of Alola. I really like everything that they did with Alola. I liked that the game played a little bit differently. I like that you no longer had to deal with HMs. That was a big thing that I loved. I hope that they will keep that in future games. But I did miss the gym leaders. I didn't want them to deviate from that. I miss gym leaders. Yeah, well, you still have the captains. it wasn't the same it wasn't and some of them you didn't they're optional to fight because you just have to do the trial yeah and the trial can just be watch these Marowak dance yeah it's pass that's a hard pass they did make the trials uh more challenging as far as the puzzles uh that the trials consist of are all different and they're all more challenging so on that front um it is new but it is still you know it's still trials so what are you giving this game let's see let's rate it in delicious island treat big malasadas all right how many big malasadas are you gonna give this i'm still enjoying it and i i mean sometimes i feel like playing it is uh responsibility just because i go i can sure i'm gonna give it three malasadas out of five okay down the middle and you know what i'm gonna probably pick it up just because i'm a completionist as far as Pokemon's concerned i have well this is the version that you'll be able to complete the Pokedex in there you go uh as far as you'll be able to catch everything in the game um or at least you should except for some event Pokemon but the same way uh with sort of the sequel games i think uh HeartGold SoulSilver and OmegaRuby AlphaSapphire because they have the ability to catch uh legendaries from previous games in them it's it's where you can catch all the Pokemon in the Pokedex in that game without a whole lot of extra extra work and let me ask you this do you think we're gonna get this generation remakes of Pokemon uh Diamond and Pearl i know that we will get them oh we'll get them i just don't know if it's gonna be soon or later it's not gonna be that's a tough one to say because remember we didn't get the remakes when black and white came out that would have been the regular timeline i feel like it's remake when black and white came out it would have been HeartGold SoulSilver yeah that's what i yeah yeah and OmegaRuby Alpha Sapphire no no they came out black omega uh heart Gold SoulSilver came out after uh Diamond and Pearl did they yes okay so we should have gotten OmegaRuby AlphaSapphire a generation earlier that's right okay um i feel like we're still on a dual screen system remember how the DS did yeah or developer system and i didn't have a set uh name by the way oh did it yeah shows what i know so long ago but Diamond and Pearl was the first game on Nintendo's sort of foldable two screen system i think the remake for Diamond and Pearl will not be on a foldable two screen system okay could it be on a portable touchscreen system you know like the Switch i think it could be okay i think it would play really well and i'm excited personally for a Pokemon on Switch me too i think whatever we're dreaming up right now it's not close i think it's going to be a total curveball um for good or for worst or for better for worst it's going to be that's what it's going to be it's going to be something we haven't expected yet well my dream has always been a multi-region game yeah but they're not giving us that no that's a that's a pipe dream Nintendo uh when i was a child put a chip in my brain uh that can read my thoughts and they know my desires and they print them out on a list and they say let's never do anything oh totally that's why we'll never get a good Paper Mario game again because they know i want it yeah jelly likes these things let's never do throw those directly into the trash uh as all all games all games uh seem to do that but let's wash all this horrible uh heartbreak out of our out of our heads yeah we're gonna let's have something sweet let's do it let's uh start up a campfire and uh and get some s'mores yeah now baby stack that beef lay that swiss whoa wrap it up oh basket instead okay ruben is back for a limited time at subway so much ruben and we're back i'm sorry i have a my mouth is like a blaze with corn like an ultra-saccharine flavor. It's stuck together. Yeah, it's not good. This is a really depressing episode. The subway was a total loss. Oh yeah. I haven't gotten to play Pokemon. And then we decided to have a sweet treat. And it wasn't sweet. It was hard to eat. For me anyway. I sure hope next week goes better for you. Yeah, hopefully. Otherwise we're going to have to go on hiatus and maybe start maybe start like a like a clean living podcast like we're just gonna eat salad and tofu we'll call it uh eat game love hey actually you know copyright that nobody's allowed to steal that no one's allowed to steal eat game love we're gonna write a terrible novel yep anyway I don't want to go to India though I don't want to go to any place I remember when I you know I was mad that we actually had to get out and eat at the subway like i'm a big i'm a big drive-thru guy so i was i i could not have been more mad before during and after yeah i mean even last week you were talking about uh how dirty the restaurant was what did we have last week farmhouse king oh yeah it was dirty it was filthy there one time i was in a del well in a del taco where you are now are you are you okay i'm i'm suffering from uh from ruben syndrome oh boy we could probably market like which is a new disease that you get after subway has given us it feels like you fall out of space time because of something horrible that you ate yeah um here we're gonna like shred some paper towels and call it sauerkraut here's some like no more product i gotta tell you my my quick del taco dog story okay so i was in a del taco and it was uh in a relatively nice neighborhood but it was always vacant like Like, there was, Del Taco had very little action, right? And me and a bunch of friends went inside after, it was in high school, so we went after school and we decided we were going to have Del Taco for lunch. And there's a dog there. There's a dog in the restaurant. Like, how big of a dog? Like, it was a black Labrador. Okay. And we're just like, what? It was a dog. And there was another guy, a guy eating alone. It was probably his dog. Probably Brian's dog. It wasn't a service dog, but, you know, I like dogs, so I don't care. I'm not going to make a fuss. I like dogs. We sit down, we eat. The guy that we thought it belonged to leaves, and he doesn't take the dog with him. So this dog didn't belong to him. And I asked at one point the cashier, because it looked like there was only one person working there. It was the cashier, and they were also running the kitchen in the back. So we had to wait a little bit longer for our meal, but it didn't matter to us. What restaurant were we in? And I say... Yeah, a bunch of high school kids. Yeah, we have nowhere to be. and i asked her is that your dog she's like no just came in so in certain Del Taco there's just like a random roving dog like it's a like it's the middle of Mad Max and it's just like just wandering around the table it was so unsettling and i say black labs have rights i like i like black labradors and they're very gentle dogs and but it was just so weird to just have a stray dog in the middle of a Del Taco this is before they're rebranding too so it was like that time when Del Taco was still kind of trashy um but i guess i guess they have a no black lab policy now at their restaurants because i've yet to see a wild dog in a fast food restaurant people got a lot more persnickety about that only service dogs allowed yeah which is silly i like i feel like somebody like got in charge of making the rules who like had a problem with animals some people are allergic no animals but i think it's few and far between that are allergic to yeah anyway but enough about stray dogs and Del Taco's uh we had Chips Ahoy s'mores cookies is that what we had the new yeah that's the thing we like to do we like to try we like to stay relevant um fresh i didn't like it can you tell us about what was in it uh well it's uh it's a cookie if the cookie base tasted like there was like probably graham crackers ground up in the flour I was getting, you said you weren't getting a graham cracker taste. I got nothing. But I was getting a graham cracker taste from the cookie. In the middle was a sort of chocolate adjacent thing. I don't know what you would call the flavor. You know what it was? You know why I didn't like it? It was fudge. It tasted like fudge. It tasted like overly sweet chocolate. Yeah, well, you know what it tasted to me? It tasted like those Pop-Tarts I hate. The stuff that's in the middle of those s'mores or fudge Pop-Tarts. It was very reminiscent. I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm a classic kind of Pop-Tart person. No, you're right to hate those. They're not good. When I remember, like, being a kid, everybody would be like, oh, I want the Pop-Tart that's got, like, 12 names, 12 ingredients, like, in the name. It's got the super fudge, awesome cinnamon, trash, swirly, chocolate fudge, white chocolate mocha Pop-Tart. And I'm like, can I just get some brown sugar cinnamon over here? Yeah, just give me a frosted strawberry. Can you bring back wild berry, please? Yes. We could do an episode on that. We can do an entire episode on Pop-Tarts. because they're all delicious well not all of them i guess we established right now but schedule it the main ones are delicious uh not and Chips Ahoy to that effect are also delicious i think the Chips Ahoy chewy is a perfect cookie i have eaten an entire carton in one sitting oh wow yeah they're so good uh milk's is it milk's no that's Oreo milk's favorite cookie is Oreo yeah um which are also good but that's not what we're talking about we're talking about these putrid s'mores yeah and then it had um i guess there was supposed to be marshmallow quote unquote marshmallow i'm pretty sure probably just white chocolate probably just white chocolate disgusting i mean i don't know what a marshmallow tastes like or how it's different than white chocolate marshmallow is more of a it is sweet but it's less cloying than i think white chocolate is and it's also more of a texture thing yeah and i think i think marshmallow is more of a texture thing yeah and i've had like a s'mores cookie before like a chocolate cookie yeah nuts and marshmallow that's delicious but this wasn't this was just it tasted like how much sugar can we shove into one cookie yeah i don't know it was it was a it was fudge in the center of it unnecessary it was a stuffed cookie unnecessary yeah you already have the perfect cookie you should work backwards from that you shouldn't try to if you would if you just put a graham cracker in the dough like you did and had like maybe a maybe a marshmallow chip to put in addition to the chocolate chips on it probably would have been even better and on the package you know it says uh try microwaving them for 10 seconds yeah that didn't fix it for me it made in fact it probably made it worse because then the fudge like really like is bold and yeah it like underlined it and it just reminded me why i hate this cookie what are we gonna rate let's rate this cookie because we brought up Pop-Tarts let's rate this cookie in a better treat which is a Pop-Tart let's rate in Pop-Tarts now when we rate it in Pop-Tarts are we rating it in uh Pop-Tarts individually or Pop-Tarts in a sleeve because in a sleeve of Pop-Tarts there's two pastries that's a good point let's rate it individually to keep it simple okay so if we rate it like five out of five which we won't but if we did that would technically be two and a half two and a half pop-tart sleeves yes so keep that in mind when you're uh portioning out your pop tarts why would they need to keep this in mind we think a lot about these rating scales and i hope you appreciate it audience yeah well i think a lot about them you're just well actually it's a sleeve like you're getting you always ask me which half of whomever unnecessarily particular about it so what what are you gonna rate these uh it's too sweet it's too sweet i don't like it um but freaking your kids probably love it so buy it for them don't give it to them they're gonna be bouncing off the walls i'm gonna give it two out of five two out of five pop-tart sleeves okay i'm giving it one out of five i'm getting one out of five wait pop-tart sleeves didn't we decide we're doing two pop-tarts out of five that's one pop-tart sleeve i love doing individual yeah two out of five these cookies are giving us they're giving us the uh delirium um i'm gonna give this pop i'm gonna give this pop tart i'm gonna give this cookie one out of five strawberry frosted pop tarts no sleeves involved sleeves are messy don't get involved with the sleeves this is like a church potluck and it's just open service uh breakfast bar they're not in sleeves or just individual pop tarts you can grab them that's my situation i don't know it's two out of five it's not strawberry frosted it's the gross uh chocolate fudgy pop tarts that elf puts on a spaghetti in the movie okay okay like so they're not pop tarts that i even want i like that you're keeping it seasonal with your with your elf reference it's december yeah um yeah one out of five i'm not going back to it chips away you already have a perfect cookie just stick to that don't don't give this to your own kids give these to is there is there someone you don't like give it to their kids yeah there you go that's a good idea this is like a revenge cookie this is a cookie you should gift someone out of spite yeah this is like you know what i think you're having too good a time with your kids have a s'mores cookie how's your day going good here chow down chow down pal um and that said if you like what you hear this episode is turning people off i'm sure they probably are not only turned off to us but i go to subway almost every day oh that's depressing that's profoundly depressing if like if you eat subway like if you're excited to go to subway i don't know what to tell you pal you remember the subway commercial where a guy went to subway so often that they had memorized his order and the whole crux of the commercial was the usual at any fast food 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