Christine Arrighi et Jean Terlier : duel de députés sur l'A69 | Circo

I am a force for proposals and I am not content with playing political politics, I am making proposals here which today are the commission of inquiry, Mr. Terlier, as far as I know, it is not Renaissance who proposed a commission investigation into this issue and which allows you to meet groups that you have never met [Music] hello I am Christina Rigi I am a deputy for the 9th circumcision of hotgaron and rapporteur of the commission of inquiry on the aa 69 construction site on which we are my question and the question posed by ecologists and obviously all those who are not in favor of this highway is the relevance of an infrastructure in 2023 in 2024 at a time of climate change which could be avoided hello Jean Terlier deputy for the 3rd constituency of Tarne the highway at 69 it will make it possible to open up the south of Tarne it will be able to restore attractiveness to this territory which is sorely lacking the vital forces of the South of Tarne Tarne has been asking for this motorway infrastructure to be built for more than 30 years. Their constituencies are around fifty kilometers apart. Jean Terlier is a deputy for the South of Tarne in the Castre region. Christina Harigi is elected from HauteGaronne to the south of the Toulouse metropolitan area these two constituencies should soon be brought together by the A69 motorway currently under construction it will put Castre 35 minutes from Toulouse compared to 55 today Jean Terlier and Christine Harigi are both involved in this issue they are respectively presidents and rapporteur of a parliamentary commission of inquiry which studies the legal and financial arrangement of the future motorway the work is mainly done in the Assembly during the [Music] hearings but that day the parliamentarians arrived on the site for a field visit the two deputies will be able to compare their vision of the project here we actually have two viaducts which are identical side by side a viaduct for the direction Toulouse castre and a viaduct for the direction castre Toulouse so today we are in the process of build the walls guard strike then there will be rambl we should be able to circulate on it by this fall we have here a put into circulation which is planned for for the year 2025 is this here a a timing which will be able to be respected sometimes the working conditions are not always simple because we sometimes have obstruction at our site even sometimes attacks towards our staff he who we had four machines which burned so we indeed have obstructions of this type there nevertheless as there is a route of 53 km there is enough to work everywhere so we can nevertheless move forward to advance the work a challenge in the construction of this highway gives rise to protests dozens of collectives have emerged and regularly organize demonstrations people come there from all over France and even from further afield the Swedish activist Greta tberg even went there although most of these actions were unfolded peacefully, some involved hours with the police, particularly on this railway line which is located right next to the construction site that the deputies are visiting, but it is important to see how the opponents of the highway are able to block a railway line. while on the other hand you are the first to promote rail so that's the paradox if you're looking for controversy sir you won't find it with me so it's not worth it no no yes yes you are looking for controversy simply asking yourself about the coherence I am telling you do not seek controversy with me no it is because I do not want to answer I am not looking for controversy so you will not find me on this controversy you AZ when even heard the director of Tos come to tell you that in the last 15 days Chan who have been theft this reity since for the 53rd time I tell you that I denounce the violent actions if this construction site gives rise to strong political tensions it is firstly because of its impact on the environment in front of parliamentarians the concessionary company wants to be reassuring it is a highway which was really adapted to the latest standard of what can be done in terms of environment today for example you have crossing works for wildlife for large wildlife for hydraulics I think that indeed there are people who want to move towards an ecological transition an energy transition with forced march and who have taken this highway as a symbol perhaps and who do not know this project a symbolic project probably because it poses this question can we still build highways in 2024 it is a project which has no meaning if we do not manage to re-examine ourselves each time on the relevance of this type of project and well we will continue to have plus 1.5 + 2 and we know very well what it is to have a France at + 4 degrees I think that in the choice of the concessionaire which was made was made because it was the best bidder from an environmental compensation point of view, we know that tomorrow this motorway will open up the south of Tarne, finally opening up is the main argument put forward by the defenders of laa69 today the jeanterlier constituency is only connected to Toulouse by a national road and a TER line to the sub-prefecture of Castre the deputy wanted the members of the commission to meet supporters of the project what we would like is to still benefit a little from the expansion uh of Toulouse so if we do not have a modern communication route we will not attract any business to our territory or very few and on top of that there are some who will leave we need it and if we want to make our territory live we must IT quickly and with serenity we as a road carrier this highway is more than vital it will bring us first time of safety on the motorway there are much fewer accidents than on the national road it will save us time for 30 months I had to go to the three hospital platforms in Toulouse and that daily and when you are sick but I I can guarantee you that it's quite an obstacle course, this silent majority today who spoke out, it's the inhabitants of this territory, we're not making a highway out of vanity but we're making a highway because it has become necessary for the employees of this territory for the inhabitants of this territory for the companies of this territory who have been waiting for it for more than 30 years castre is relayed by a national road by a road by a railway and by an airport so as a landlocked territory there is worse in France rather than a motorway Christine Harigi would have preferred a modernization of the existing national road and an improvement of the rail link but now that the project is well advanced with more than half of the financial commitments already carried out the rapporteur of the commission fights to limit the environmental impact it is she who put the following visit on the agenda the parliamentary procession goes into a forest to access a wetland it is land which shelters a precious biological diversity could be affected by the highway which will pass in the immediate vicinity it is in these places that there is a population of jcin de Rome then the Jassin de Rome is a protected plant in France which lives mainly in Occitania and of which we have on these two plots the most important populations of the Tarne for this scientist who carried out a second expertise the highway will block upstream the groundwater which rigs these lands an analysis which gives rise to discussion there is something which is very clear is that today there is a dispute eh which is pending before the administrative courts and which will determine if indeed the arguments of Mr. Toba are conclusive they are in any case contested, this was told to us by by by the concessionaire I would also like to remind you that as part of the environmental compensation that is planned it has been planned that we will restore twice as many wetlands as those that were impacted and that this restoration of twice as many wetlands will be controlled within the framework of a committee for monitoring compensatory and environmental measures you really take your nosos realities your desires for realities because 50% of the wetlands of the compensation cannot become wetlands quite simply because it there is an inconsistency in the prefectural decree of comm contestauthority of these technical disagreements fuel the debates within the commission of inquiry in this context lapporte ecologist VI to be intractable in the face of the motorway concessionaire the subject is that if everyone all these people there in terms of productivist activity were right we would not be in the situation of climate disruption in which we are and as we are in this situation due to these accumulated errors we say be careful from the moment where we touch nature we touch the earth and let 's be as respectful as possible in fact we are only promoting what is implemented in the law and which has been supported by including this government avoid reduce compensate before returning in Paris the deputies have a last visit to a very specific site of the construction site it is here that a temporary coating plant will be installed in a few months it will produce the bitum which will cover the road of the members of the collective concerned about possible harm to health and the environment have been invited the boss of atosc will try once again no risk for health no risk in terms of pollution or in terms of health for local residents and what we are committed to in this context of listening to the territory is to set up a reinforced control program compared to what is traditionally done additional precision uh we see that the the first homes are very far away have you obviously listed everything what was around this power plant in D I cannot let you say that the nearest houses are very far away my friends live in this house which is 200 m away and who are already experiencing harmful effects at the moment there we do not is not at all 200 m between the end of the Montagne Noire and the garden of my friends who are already suffering from the dust and who can no longer open their kitchen window but what I still want to say clearly here is that there are 500 power plants operating in France, 500 operating almost everywhere, these are techniques that are still recognized today and that work, it is up to us now to put in place control programs that are going well, we can not prejudge today that this installation will malfunction the cries of passion around this site will have punctuated this entire day of visit like the recurring tensions which appear between Christina and Jean TER it is a classic of parliamentary commissions of inquiry air presidents and rapporteurs are often on different positions in order to guarantee a form of balance in the work the liveliness of a democracy is precisely that we can debate obviously when we do not share the same agnostic on a project this gives rise to contradictions and obviously elements which are not necessarily consensual but the liveliness of a democracy I think that it is this if we had commissions of inquiry which were simply responsible and without any contradiction without any debate and with only agreements I mean it would perhaps be FAD there and and so it's it's good that on subjects as important as the 69 highway as part of the construction site which we were able to see today Now that we have these exchanges which are very welcome, the work of the committee will continue until the submission of the report. It is scheduled for mid-July and could well give rise to new tensions between pro and anti deputies. 69 [Music]