Welcome, welcome, welcome. This is
Keeping It Real on Purpose and I am your
host Edna White. In this powerful and
raw episode of Keeping It Real, I'm
going to sit down with Cindy Sharp. Now,
that name should tell you that you're
going to get something really good.
She's the founder of Self-Love Leader
and the creator of the Love Drop Method.
Now, you know, we got to hear about
this. Born with Poland syndrome, Cindy
turned her difference into a divine
design. Ain't that something? And now
she's teaching women over 50 how to do
the same thing. So all you ladies who
are over 50 better pay attention. Get
your pen, your paper, and listen to what
we got to say today. Together, we're
uncovering true self-love that making
sure what it looks like when the world
tells you you're too old, you're too
different, and it's too late. Don't let
them tell you that, though. So, this
conversation goes beyond the surface of
confidence. It's about leadership,
purpose, and healing, and the power of
owning your story. Welcome to the show.
>> Well, thank you so much for having me.
I'm very happy to be here.
I'm excited for you to be here, too. Um,
and just reading over all that you've
done and I love how you take on the
power of over the 50. Take it. We We're
tired of being over the hill. We're
tired that we're not over the hill.
We're on the same road. We're not over
the hill. We're on the same road. You
can see us.
>> That's it.
Us girls just need to make sure that we
aren't giving up too soon. And that's
why I speak to the women over 50 because
I've noticed that some of them are
giving up and it's time. It's not time
for us to give up. It's our time to
shine.
>> That's right. That's right. That's the
new success. The new success code is
self- loveve. That's it. So today, um, I
want you to really talk to me about how
you show up in the world. That's my
first question to you. How do you show
up in the world?
That's a really super great question
because we obviously, you know, we all
carry this kind of backpack with us. Um,
sometimes it's a backpack of rocks and
sometimes it's a backpack of love or a
mixture of the two. And um, why I how I
try to show up in the world is to be the
best person I can to be a guiding light
to others. Do I do that every moment? I
I don't think that's realistic, but my
goal is is to in some way be able to
show some love and light to others just
by being not only in my presence, but me
having the gratitude of being in their
presence.
>> Gotcha. That's good. That's good. I'm
glad that you are doing that and you're
showing up in your world like that
because we all need that. So what's now
I want you to tell me about because I I
know that we you said Poland syndrome.
Explain to us what that is and the
uniqueness of it.
>> This is really um the basis for my whole
life and the basis of my work um which
of course we'll get into but let's talk
a little bit about it. So I was born
with this very rare birth defect which
is you know less than you know 1% of the
1% of the world population. I mean it's
just very rare. And one of the things
that you are born with there's many
different things that you can you can
have heart problems maybe um missing
some ribs these types of things. But the
the most common things are that you are
born with a an hand or arm difference.
And I have two hands that are different.
I call them my jazz hands. And then but
the thing that really was the biggest
struggle or the thing that I carried
around very heavenly kind of like that
um box of rocks or not box of rocks but
that backpack full of rocks was that I
was born with a congenital radical
masectomy and that left me feeling
>> very very different. It left me feeling
um like I didn't fit in. It left me with
this sense of I'm not like the other
girls, you know, I'm not pretty. I'm
not, you know, all those things that
come along with um having uh balanced
breasts, so to speak. And so the the the
the thing about it is is that you know
for many years it was kind of my biggest
challenge. But at some point it turned
around and I realized that it was really
what I call my love drop. And that is
that it was that one little drop of love
that I got that you didn't get or that
the other girl down the street didn't
get that is unique and difference
different. And as soon as I was able to,
you know, kind of walk through that that
veil of feeling like I wasn't worthy, I
wasn't valuable. Um there was nothing
that I could say that would matter to
the world because I was different. Once
I actually got to the point of
understanding that that difference was
my golden ticket, so to speak, it was
the love that um only I could share the,
you know, the light that I was here to
bring. Um so it's, you know, a a really
interesting birth effect, but uh it has
some pluses in the long run. And part of
that might be because I have a little
gray hair and you learn a little bit,
you know.
Absolutely.
What's how did your difference become
the foundation for your leadership
style?
>> Oh, that's really that's really a good
question, too. Um, here here here's a
little bit about my background that um
you may not know, but I was an AVP for
um JP Morgan Chase at one point in my
career. And what I found is is that I
thought what was going on is
boy, I'm just coming into this feeling
this, you know, insecurity that I've
carried all my life. This, you know, I'm
not valuable and I'm not worthy. And
what I learned and what I found out was
that what was really going on,
>> okay, sorry. What was really going on is
the fact that
when it comes to leadership,
there is a style of leadership that
women do different
than
men do. And so when I started really
accepting myself and really loving
myself and really allowing myself to
know it's not about me and me being
different. It's about the fact that as a
woman I have something to share that is
different from the regular leadership
style. And the regular leadership style
I like to explain in this kind of um old
uh you know this this is a very um old
saying by Lee Aayakoka and that is move
follow or get out of the way which is a
real malegenerated way of leadership and
what I've learned myself is that
leadership itself when it comes to the
style of how we as women lead is more
compassionate, it's more understanding,
it's more loving. And
>> when I learned this um I started
teaching it and it was a combination of
two things. And the two things are one
having my own self-acceptance of who I
am and two seeing that within that
self-acceptance as a woman that I had a
voice and my voice was important because
it came from love and compassion.
>> Yeah. And I think I know I'm from the
real estate world and you gave a great
example of you know men dominated area.
I I'm from the real estate world, so
that was my profession over 20some
years. And I was very male-dominated,
you know. Um and to see I think we had
in in my remote area we had about three
to four um you know that had their women
brokers who had their own offices you
know either they were working under
somebody you know or the the social
broker but they never had but the l what
I wanted to get to with what you were
talking about is the leadership style
and I remember going to a meeting and
you know I'm like this all the LA, hi
everybody. You know, I'm like that, you
know, I'm just like that all the time.
And I go into this meeting and it was a
meeting for women in real estate. So
there was about 10 to 12 women there
from Suffach County to Nassau County,
about that many. And so I walk in and
everybody's got this staunch look on
their face. So I'm like, okay, I would
expect this in men, right? Because you
know, they're like, what are you doing
here? this when you know that that was
the look he's like what are you doing
here cuz you're a woman you're not
supposed to be here but these are all
women
>> right
>> we sometimes
take on leadership leadership
from the male procept you know the male
part of us and we we when we lead
sometimes those things kind of show up
that we we learned it from men but we
have is do you think that is a survival
mode for some of us moment.
I I think that um first let me just say
say one thing to you and that is um when
I was um working for JP Morgan Chase I
was in the mortgage business so the real
estate m business and the mortgage
business are very very similar and I I
don't want to say this in a negative
context but it's kind of a little bit of
a boy club
>> and I think the thing is that what what
we have found as women ourselves is that
>> we wherever we are, we haven't really
been at that place where we are um what
is the best way to explain it where we
are accepted in this role as a leader.
And so the only person that we have to
look at is who do we model? We're going
to model after the male leaders. And
when we're modeling after the male
leaders, what happens? We're not
bringing our heart. We're not bringing
our compassion. We're not bringing those
magical listening skills that we
>> Exactly.
Exactly. We're not ourselves.
>> Exactly. Right. So I what I I think
happens is is that we want to do a good
job. You know, women are the providers.
Women are the the the the the
childbearers. You know, we come into
this world with this um very loving
magical energy, but we also come in and
we want to do a good job. And when you
are in whether you're entrepreneur or
you're at the world, what ends up
happening is is that you look at how the
other leaders do it. You go, "Oh,
they're successful. That must how it's
done.
Yes. Yes.
>> And that's one of the reasons that I do
what I do because we really have to come
from our own selfworth and the knowledge
that
>> we women have something to share and
it's going to make a big difference in
the world once we finally stop hiding
and get out and share it.
>> Absolutely. Um I I interviewed um a
woman u by her name is Dr. Tana session
and her book is stop being the best kept
secret
because we are we are you know and it's
it's amazing that
>> you know um
>> for years we can live in that that that
you know because we we do have the
masculine and the feminine sides of us
inside of us but sometimes we do you
know because of situations. I know for
me all of my um while I was raising my
children, I was raising them on my own.
So guess where I was all the time? I was
in the masculine side, right? So only
time that I really was vulnerable really
with anyone was with my children because
they didn't see that part because I was
still trying to navigate and like you
said be in that world because I had to
be. So I I you know that's where I lived
a lot. And not until
um later on when I'm you know a empty
neester
did I say hey I'm acting like a dude
around.
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>> Yeah.
you know, I got to start embracing my
feminine self and I had to start to what
does that even look like because I lived
there so long, you know? Um, and I think
it has to do with selfworth. And here's
my big my question. So, when I became an
empty neester around in the 50s, when I
was 50s, right? So, what's the biggest
lie women around the 50s still believe
about self-worth? Because that that
living in that ma masculine part that we
have to cuz that's survival. That's
survival, right? It's survival. So
what's the still the thing that we
believe in our self-worth and our
purpose? What's that lie that we believe
that that the reason why we stay there?
>> The lie that we believe
>> is the fact
that all that we've believed all our
life about ourselves, all our
all our insecurities,
all our feelings of of not being
confident about who we are as a human
being
>> is that we connect to that lie, that
little rivet in our brain, the record
that goes round and round and round
keeps on that track and we don't release
it. And so that is how we get stuck in
that lie,
>> right? And we don't release it. That's
the thing. We don't That's a good That's
good.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> You just get
>> All right, audience. You hear that? I
hope you're writing this down. I hope
you're writing this down because it's
good stuff.
>> Let your pen and paper out.
>> Get it out. Get it out. Pop on your
phone recorder. Let's do it. Let's go.
>> Okay. So, we're gonna we're gonna jump
over to this the other part of you,
which is the self-love. Um we're going
to talk about that. What does real self-
love look like beyond affirmations and
bubble baths? Tell them about it.
>> You know, this is where it gets very
confusing and this is why a lot of women
never feel like they achieve true
selflove is because
>> it's
>> putting ourselves first. And if that
means having a bubble bath, no, it's
part of it. It's all great and fine and
wonderful, right? But the fact is is
that it is this energy of acceptance
and this confidence that just runs
through all the things we do in life.
And that means one thing, accepting our
beauty and our magic and accepting our
box of rocks that comes with it. So,
it's about just accepting us at the
clearest, deepest level, not trying to
to just love ourselves completely every
day and oh wow, I'm just amazing. The
fact of the matter is, yes, we are all
amazing, but we also come along with
things that maybe, you know, aren't that
warm and fuzzy. And those things are
okay, too.
>> Those things are okay, too.
>> Yeah. I just found out that in my own um
um journey just recently that even a
form of communication
is self-care.
And what I mean by that um is
I would just allow people just to say
whatever and then get emotionally and
get angry and answer them, right? Cuz I
would get emotional. Sure.
Sure.
>> But now, um, something happened over the
weekend and it was like total
disrespect.
And I'm I'm telling you, the way that I
answered the answered it, it wasn't my
in my emotional self. It was so truthful
and so clear that I answered it amongst
a lot of people. And they it was like
you could drop a pen and it was like wow
that makes so much sense. But the
experience
I'm telling um Cindy this the the
experience was I was standing on the
outside of myself. I could see myself
talking and I'm going wait is anybody
else experiencing this? And I and I as I
when I got when I got finished speaking,
I realized that communication,
not allowing someone to speak down to
you, but not being emotional,
but being able to say it in truth and
and be very clear and confident about it
is also selfcare.
>> Oh yes, absolutely. And you know when
you tell that story which is interesting
because it's interest before you told
the story and you said that you were
watching yourself from the outside you
know these things I visually could kind
of see that
possibly sound
but I'm just g you a little feedback and
that is when I think back
is you were your old self was standing
outside of yourself and your real self,
the true self, the girl that you are
inside was and you were watching her.
>> And what a magic moment for you.
>> What a magic moment for you.
>> Oh my gosh, it was so magical. I I I
felt like a I don't know what a fairy
feels, you know, a fairies with the with
the flut fluttering around and popping
all I felt like that. I was like, "Oh,
that felt really great. What was that?"
You know, and not until later on I I
figured out what it was, you know? like
what you just said. I was like, "Oh, is
that what's that's what's going on, you
know?" Um, let's talk about like I want
to take that and move it further with
you. Um,
>> sure.
>> Working with women who are over 50 also,
you know, um, getting to that higher
self is also
um, you know, self-care. Can you talk
about that a little bit?
So are we talking about are you talking
about more in like a spiritual higher
self
doing the inner work. Yes. You're doing
your inner work and changing from that.
Yes.
>> One of the things that happens
I totally in when I work with women we
do work on mindset and inner work. One
thing that we try to do is we try to
completely
honor who we are
>> at a core level. Um, and what happens a
lot of times, you know, this happens
with women over 50 is
>> women over 50 is
>> you, you know, you may have had this
happen to you, is where, you know, our
bodies start changing and and our kind
of hormones start changing and we've
gone through this life maybe of not
feeling valuable and worthy and like now
it's like, oh, okay, now what's going
on? What's going on?
>> Really, that's almost like
It's like the the the lily coming up
through the mud and and and and opening.
It's that that absolutely beautiful part
of life where we actually can really
start opening our hearts to a you know a
bigger
>> um I'm the word is not coming to me but
it's
it's one level down from selflove or one
level I should say deeper not down but
deeper in self love and it's that
complete
100% acceptance of who we are.
Acceptance of who we are.
>> Yeah. It's that gut feeling that um it's
deeper than self-worth.
>> And I don't and I that word is evading
me too. It's deeper than selfworth. It's
it's the gut feeling that you had when
you were 5 years old and that when you
were outside riding the bike,
>> you didn't need mommy to do it help you
with it. You could do it. You could you
know how that age is like I don't want
no help. I can do it. that that feeling,
>> right? That feeling you want to do it
all your own. I don't know what the It
evades me, too. But that's
>> it'll it'll come to us while we're
together. I know between the the two of
us, we we'll we'll get it. But um it's
that it's that it's that place where we
stop asking for permission. And it's
that place where we start showing
ourselves completely, you know, peeled
back.
Everything doesn't have to be perfect.
We let go of that perfectionism
and we just are
>> as magical beings that we were born to
be born to be.
>> That's right. Just magical. Just magical
with no mystery at all. Just magical.
>> No mystery.
>> How can women reclaim their voice and
lead their lives with intention,
especially after trauma, rejection, or
reinvention?
Well, I'm going to say something that,
you know, not always is something that
people are going to resonate with, but
I'm going to give you my take on this.
And that is and that is
>> a lot of us
into this.
>> I have to have had so much.
You know, before the show started, we
talked for a few minutes and you shared
with me about your story.
I have my own story like your story and
what we feel like is broken and we have
to heal.
>> We have to heal and I think it's
different.
>> I don't think that we're broken and we
have to heal. I think we have to
remember
we are we are
>> that's it. That is it.
>> Got it.
>> High five with you. High five with you.
>> High five, honey. Bunny, I'm highing
you. We have to remember who we are
because we were born perfect.
>> We were born in this as a being that
came here on a mission to do something
magical. And the fact is is that we need
to just release all those layers. Let
them go. Stop trying to heal something
that's broken because broken because
>> you're not broken.
>> You're not broken. You're perfect.
>> No, that's correct. I love that. I love
that, Cindy. Now, I know this is the end
of the show, but I want you to tell us
anything that you're going to be doing.
um you know anything exciting coming the
end the ending part last quarter of this
year and what's going on and how they
can reach out to you.
>> Okay, great. One thing that I'd like is
that my work is done
thing called the love drop method or
honoring your love.
And the love drop is what we've been
talking about today. And that's honoring
this person that we were born to be just
like we are just like we came to this
magical earth.
And so the love drop is that one drop of
magic
>> that one drop and essence of your being
that was given to you before you got
hereitted
tot.
And so what I do is I ask women how to
find that love, how to honor that love,
and how to get out on their mission and
their soul's calling that they are here
to share to share.
>> Yeah.
And and how I do that is is I work with
people a couple of different ways, but
right at the moment I'm working with
people one on- one. And if they want
more information about that or they'd
like to um speak to me directly, they
can go to my web page, which is the
selflove.com,
and they can do one of three things.
They can sign up and speak to me
directly. They can get my free book.
And I also have a workbook that women
who would like to start working on their
own
can purchase
and um it's a downloadable PDF workbook
that they can just write in it and use
it as a journal and it's just magically
takes them to where they need to be to
find their own find.
>> Awesome. Well, Cindy, thank you for
keeping it real on purpose with us
today. To everyone listening, if this EP
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for now.
>> Thank you for having me. Thank you for
having
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