"WHY DO I NEED TO SHOWER EVERY DAY?!" | JONATHAN ROSS | Beginning Middle And End With Mo Gilligan

But your guests were iconic. A friend of mine spent about a month with Biggie. I wasn't going to text you or anything bro. They've got you in the blogs. They're saying you're not a shout out. I shout out twice. What's wrong with you? So you started TV early on. Your mum used to kind of put you up for adverts. Yeah, but it's weird. It sounds more showbiz than it was. Here's the deal. My mum I think was always a bit, not frustrated, but she always loved the idea of trying to be involved in that kind of world. She was quite artsy your mum as well right? She was a little, yeah. Not artsy crafty. She didn't make things or do things. But she was into film. Both of my parents were interesting because they both left school really young. She left school when she was 13. My dad left school when he was 15. And they got together. They were both working then. And they both came from difficult families. So I think that's why they wanted to get out. And they met. She was 16 when she had her first child. My dad was 18 when his son was born. Wow. My oldest brother was born on my dad's 18th birthday. That's nuts. You can't imagine an 18 and 16 year old starting a big family. But that was quite common back then. The world was changing. And so they were interesting. Although they left school they were quite well educated. Because my dad used to read quite a lot. My mum used to read quite a lot. So I think they were kind of curious people. And nice people. And so we were lucky in that way. But she knew that you could. She would always say there is a world outside of. Because in Leytonstone no one. I didn't know anyone who even knew anyone who worked in TV. Or who acted. Or did anything in terms of show business. Or anything in the arts. And she was always saying you could do this kind of thing. Whenever she'd read something about someone from our sort of background. She'd say look. Look at this. And so she saw an advert in a paper saying large families wanted TV commercials. And I was one of six. So she took us along. And they signed us up for this agency. So we did a few adverts when we were kids. Which by the way. I never saw the money for. Really? I'm still furious. They spent the money. Which is fair enough. I did one advert. It was for Rice Krispies. And I knew sometimes you got given things on the adverts. And so they bought me this terrible shirt. A yellow polyester shirt. And these brown kind of like synthetic trousers. But there was a bike. I had to ride a bike down the hill. And I'm thinking man they're going to give me the bike. I'm going to get a bike. I haven't got a bike. I really want this bike. And the last day they said oh we've left something for you in the trailer. I went in. You know what they gave me? The shirt. This yellow sticky shirt. That's all I got. But you know we didn't feel. I didn't feel like the stuff was being taken from me. It was like we just didn't have much. So she kind of did that. And then because we'd done that. I think you kind of had an inkling. That there was a business. And it sort of operated as a business. And you could. There were ways in. We were never sort of actors. We were never doing shows. We didn't do plays. We didn't go to drama schools. We didn't go to stage schools. We just went to regular schools. And then I drifted into TV. Because my oldest brother Paul. He'd studied English University. And he went on to become a journalist at a local paper. And that was kind of a traditional route. Getting into some of the kind of shows on TV. Like news shows. You had a journalistic background. And he got into that. And then when I was at university. And this was in the days when it was so much easier back then really. I feel for kids today. Because when you went to university. If you got fairly okay grades. You could get into university. And the government would pay. So the government paid the tuition fees. The government gave you a grant to survive on. If you were from a poor family. So I would get money to pay for student accommodation. Money to live on. Not that much. And you didn't have to worry about tuition fees. So of course if you could go to university. You went to university. I went just so I didn't have to work for three years. But your guests were iconic. I think I told you this last year. When I think you started re-uploading. Some of the older clips. Yeah the company put some stuff online. And some of those people that you interview. Is so different to how an interview is now. I think a little bit. Because I feel like now. You kind of know when someone. Yes essentially someone is coming on. To plug a new record. Or a film or TV show. But it just felt really nice. Because it's like one on one. It's kind of got the desk thing. So it feels a little bit like an American interview. But it had this British humour. To it as well. So I feel like you was able to be warm. And friendly. Draw them in to let them relax. And then open up. The show was slightly more combative as well. It was more like I would not go for them. But make jokes about them. Which came from a place of fondness and respect. And we don't do that so much anymore. Mainly because we have all the guests on at once now. And that was a change. We gradually slipped into that during COVID days. Because it was hard to bring people on. Moving people around the studio. Just became such a kind of a task. And so we went there. And people like the show as it is now. And I've now. I think only in the last series. Have adjusted my style enough to make that work. In a way that I like it now. I struggled with it for a while. But now I think the show is where I want it to be again. But it was certainly. We certainly got amazing guests. You had amazing. I used to watch it as a kid. Not to make you feel too old or anything. But I used to watch it. And seeing the guests you had. Was always something to like. In some ways. I didn't know then. What I wanted to do is what I do now. I remember seeing Dizzy Roscoe on there. At the height of his fame. And I remember him being on there. And being like yeah. I've got my Gucci loafers on there. And like seeing those acts. That it was always the pinnacle of like. You know when you've made it. Is when you go on the Jonathan Ross show. That was such an aspiration. For so many of us. Growing up watching it. Because again I'd watch it on like a Friday night. In bed and you see like. You know your Tom Cruise on there. You'll see like Amy Winehouse on there. And you had some like. I remember an interview you had with Tom Hardy on there. But it wasn't. I feel like the Tom Hardy we know now. Was like the action star. Film star. It was just kind of getting into his career. And that interview I always remember. He was quite. It was quite deep if I can remember. It was quite a deep interview. But I was like oh wow. I don't know this guy. But he seems like a cool actor. Well Tom Hardy is such an interesting bloke anyway. And I think you know what. It's nice you say that. But I think sometimes. It wasn't. Like Tom Hardy came on and he was. He was open to talk in a certain way. And I don't think it was my abilities. That necessarily made that good or interesting. I think he was just an interesting man. Who was prepared to do that. I just don't feel like you get that now though. I don't know whether you do so much. I mean it's harder. For example on the show I do now. When we have all the guests at once. You don't get that one on one. And so people you aren't focusing on them. And I think just by the nature. They have two or three other guests around them. They're not going to. Open up quite as much. They're not going to make it as much about themselves. Partly out of politeness in a way. And so I do miss doing that. I do miss doing that a little bit. But I mean you know the great thing about. ITV are very cool. If I wanted to bring someone out on their own one week. I could find them and say we're not doing that. And they'll say fine. Yeah. So maybe we will do some more like that again. He phoned me up and he said I'm going to be in your part of London. I said alright Tom. He said I was going to pop by and he's got a son. And he said I think he didn't know what to do with his son. So he came out and it was him his son and his personal trainer. This nice guy whose nickname was Peanut. I'm not quite sure why. Who sadly is no longer with us anymore. Young guy but he died or something. And so he came out. It was the weirdest day. I didn't quite know what to do. So I said let's do this. And then I took the kid in the garden and we played in the garden. And then at one stage Tom was telling me about his workout routine. And his workout routine. He had to carry him upstairs. He had to carry the train upstairs. And he picked me up and showed me how he could carry me up the stairs. And I thought no one's going to believe this. No one's going to believe that Tom Hardy is coming to my house. And he's carrying me. In my own house. Upstairs. And then his son fell asleep in one of the chairs. And we played some video games together. It was like Call of Duty or something. And then he went home. Never came out again. But a really really lovely interesting man. And an amazing actor. One of my favourite actors. Did you see what was the series Taboo? Did you see the TV series Taboo? Loved that. He was so good in it. So yeah I've had some strange encounters over the years. Eminem came around one night. Did I tell you about that one? No you didn't tell me this one. He was on my show a few times. I loved him. And it turned out we were talking backstage. And it turned out he liked American comic books. And you know I've got a big collection. I started talking about some of the stuff. And he said oh man I'd love to see that. I said we can come round if you want. He said well we're doing something tomorrow. I said do you want to come round after the show? He said yeah okay. That's crazy. So we turned up with him. He didn't have a big entourage. He had like one bodyguard with him. Enormous guy you can imagine. I came in the house. I phoned my wife. I said just don't panic. I'm bringing Eminem home. She said okay. So we go in and he was so polite. Which I think you sometimes get from people who come from a very poor background. So we walk in the room. Bear in mind it's Eminem. He walked into my room and he went. I started checking. Can we sit down? Cushions sit down. Sit down. Went in another room. Can we sit down? I went stop asking me if you can sit down. If you're in a room and you want to sit down, sit down. He sat down and he showed me. I didn't really know what to do. Even though I'm very relaxed with people. I don't necessarily understand all the conventions of what you do with people. So I said do you want to see the house? So I started showing him the house. He liked my dressing room. He liked all my sneakers. I've got this floor which is a raised floor. And all the sneakers do perspex under the floor. Oh wow. Use the thing to lift the floor up and get your shoes out. They're all on display. He loved that. I had a load of bathing apes at the time. I was buying bathing apes. I said this is the room where we do the washing and all that. My wife said why are you showing Eminem the laundry room? I was just showing him the house. You don't have to show. When you show a guest a house. You don't have to show the guest every room in the house. We were just going past. I thought he might like to see it. He said that's a hanging dryer. I said that's cool. The other girl said that's cool. I like the dryer. I've had a lot of people around my house. We live a fairly normal life. You're out and about. I drove past you the other day. We're in our mind a very normal family. We have a very normal existence. And a very comfortable and lucky one. I like being guest on shows. I'm doing the wheel next week. You've done all those shows as well. You go on those little one off things. They pay. It's not the same sort of money. It's quite fun having a reason. For me you have a reason to shower. You're clean. I can tell you're clean. I bet you shower twice a day. You give off a sense of cleanness. If I don't have an excuse. I can't be bothered. It's like today. I hope you appreciate it. For you today I had a shower. If I wasn't doing this today. I wouldn't bother. I would have gone to my office. But Moe I'm painting a witch. Why do I need to shower. To paint a witch in my own space. That's all I was doing today. Painting a witch and watching a bit of Netflix. I was going to text you and say bro. They've got you in the blogs. They're saying you're not showering. I did exaggerate that. I was on parenting hell. With Bob and Josh. I never go a week without showering. In the UK. Look Moe. Help me save the planet. Stop heating up all the water. You're clean enough anyway. Just put more lotion on. I shower twice a day. What's wrong with you. Why do you do that. I shower in the morning. And I shower at night. Before I go to bed. To feel fresh. I know you've got a healthy home life. But you're not doing that much every night. After a long day. You just want to shower. What about after the night in the morning. Because you're fresh. I don't need to be fresh. Moe you're fresh enough as it is.