In this empowering episode of Rhema Seed TV, hosts Don and Melinda Boyer dive into the real and relatable topic of feeling stuck — spiritually, emotionally, or in life’s everyday challenges.
Discover practical, faith-driven insights that will help you break free from stagnation, renew your vision, and step boldly into the future God has prepared for you. If you’ve been searching for clarity, momentum, or fresh encouragement, this conversation will bless and uplift you!
Hey everyone, we want to welcome you to today's podcast. I am your host Don Boyer, and I'm Melinda Boyer and thank you for being with us today
Let me ask you a question. Have you ever felt like things were just stuck and was not moving?
Well, I think we all have and that's the subject we're going to talk about on today's podcast. We'll be right back
when we're talking about
things when we feel stuck or
Things are not moving
Many times people are always going back to God and saying why and
It's the mindset that God is the problem
But God is never the problem. He's always a solution. We talked about that in past podcasts. Yes
So where is the problem? I think you are
Well, not you, but I mean, yeah
Thank you
Okay
But yeah, we but it's you but we also have an enemy. Yes, you know, we also have a real enemy and
2nd Corinthians, I think it's the 10th chapter. You got that. Yeah, but I want to say something. Do we allow that enemy to come in?
Always the devil can't come in by himself, but if you invite him to dinner, he brings his pajamas. Yes and his slippers and his slippers
So say like some of our adult kids you don't want to go home that's okay with me
I know that's not okay with you. But anyway 2nd Corinthians 10 3
We are human, but we don't wage wars as humans do
So this is in the New King James Version, okay, and this one is in the New Living Translation, okay
So he says in the 10th chapter verse 3 for though we walk in the flesh. In other words, we are here in this physical
Domain this physical element this physical reality. He said even though that we are walking in this area
We do not war according to the flesh
What did he say war
battle
struggle
so for instance like when somebody is
Dealing with healing or sickness and disease
It's very hard. And I think this is where so many people miss it. It's very difficult to manifest healing
That is ours because Jesus paid for our sickness and our sins
It's hard to manifest
Healing in the body when we think that we are our bodies
Oh, you just said something interesting. We think we think yeah, so we're using our mind, right?
Right. I know a lot of people struggle struggle from
Depression, right? Right. A lot of people do a lot of people, you know, and I've always wondered
where is that coming from and
Why are they allowing their mind to take over their thoughts
first of all, we have to understand all sickness whether it's emotional or mental or
Physical we have to look at the root cause the root cause is never physical
This is what this is what it's talking about here in the scripture
Is that even though we're in the physical flesh and we have sickness in this physical flesh. The root cause is not physical
It's spiritual where he says even though we walk in the flesh we do not war according to the flesh
so when people are trying to get their healing to do nutrition or
exercise or
Vitamins or any of these things which are all important to do. Yes, but that's not the root cause of
Healing it's not the root cause of sickness and disease the root cause of sickness and disease is spiritual
Wow, so so when you're believing God for healing
God already healed you
Then say he was going to you. He already healed us. So when we receive that healing, okay instantly
We are healed. So why is it showing up in the physical body?
Because we have an enemy
So then the next thing we start doing is now we start looking to this physical world to manifest that healing and we start depending
upon this physical realm
Where the fact is we have to start now doing war
Yes
if you want to get your healing if you want to get your physical healing then you're going to have to go into a
spiritual warfare and
Realize the fact that the devil does not want you to get your healing. The problem is not God
It's always the enemy. So what do we start doing? We start going into
the spirit realm and start speaking God's Word and
Start agreeing with God's Word, right? We saw now start using our legal rights
that the fact that Jesus paid our
Sick pay for our sickness and disease we stand against the enemy. Yes, because
Just looking for nutrition to bring about the manifestation is not going to work
Nutrition was designed to help us maintain good health. Yes, but the manifestation of healing
If it's being held up it's being held up in the heavenly realms if let's go to Ephesians
I think it's the sixth chapter. Yes 612. Well read that
for we are not fighting against flesh and blood enemies, but against evil rulers and
authorities of the unseen world
against mighty powers in this dark world and
Against evil spirits in the heavenly places now, that's where the the holdup is at
Not in God's arena not even in our faith
It is a fact that we are warring against these things these
Principalities in high places. It's like having a bad dream
Yes that you that you want to get woken up and get out of right, right?
And I think I think we get stuck there sometimes because you get so caught up in the scare part of it, right?
you get so fearful and
Then you lose your faith and then everything else takes over
Yeah, the enemy comes in stronger. Sometimes he'll come in stronger because we're at a point where we lack understanding
so when we're talking about and
trying to wrap our mind around this area of
manifesting divine healing in our physical body
When we realize that it's spiritual it's not physical
Physical is just the outward expression. Yeah
but the real root cause is an invisible realm in the spiritual realm fighting against a
Spiritual enemy. Well, you know, it's interesting that you say that because I I just think about everything that's happening in the world right now
there is such a warfare of
Demonic
Demons that are taking over so many people because they're one they're not spiritual anymore
There's the spirituality
I think now there's such a revival of a lot of Christians are coming together and saying we've got to fight this thing
You know, it's come in here so strong that it's taking over so many people and so many families that
It's really scary
Why is it happening because
How the church is designed is to bring heaven to earth
Absolutely, not earth to heaven
So thank God for all the people that wear Jesus hats and Jesus t-shirts and I have them too. I like wearing them, right?
Thank God for the ones that stand on the corner with the bullhorn and say, you know, Jesus is coming repent now
Thank God for all that. Well, you know, I think they I think that's all good because I think people need to be reminded
Well, they have to be reminded. Let's remember this all of that stuff the Jesus hat the teachers know
That's not where we battle and we're gonna win this war. We got to go back to intercessory prayer
We got to go back now to rededicating our lives to God
We got to understand the importance of meditating in the word. Amen, because again, we're walking in this physical realm
Yes, where your Jesus hat right your Jesus t-shirts and bracelets great
But
Let's not think that that is what's going to get people saved or healed or delivered or revival to hit the earth
It's going to be when we battle against the spiritual enemy and he is not physical
Yeah, he is
Spiritual and then reflects back into the physical realm. Yes. Yes, that's you know
That's so good that you're saying that because I think people forget, you know, I think I you know
Sometimes I think you know people want to think that God God is a person
Right, and if I touch you you're gonna heal me, right, but they don't even realize that that's God
Exactly. That's that's God. That's a spiritual thing that we need to understand
First of all, right, you know, and if you're not understanding that spiritual realm of
prayer
Then I think you're forgetting
That there's that outside world that can take over your life when you hear the word anointed
But the Bible says Jesus was anointed. Yes
And to do good and heal all manner of sickness and disease which we saw
But when you hear the word anointed think about the word empowerment you are
Empowered you are empowered to do what God said you were gonna do
He said those that believe they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover
They're going to cast out demons in his name
So it's the area of realizing that when we walk in that spiritual realm God begins to anoint us
He begins to anoint our words. He begins to anoint our action. This is why
It's very important for us to
Realize that we have to listen to the Holy Spirit
You know Larry Lee good friend of ours
He said one time that he asked a pastor Cho which was created the largest church in the world in Korea
He asked him how did you build such a big church and he said he said two words I pray and I obey
Pray and obey pray and obey and a lot of you don't like the word obey because they misunderstand it
But but the closer you get into the spiritual realm you understand that there's only means alignment
Right. I mean, there's nothing worse
They're going to a market and having one of the wheels out of alignment to get stuck
Right that kind of stuff will make a Christian cuss
You know, there's no other baskets around
So you come down and and when you're in alignment everything flows smooth. Yes. Yes, right. Yes
And you know, I think there's a lot of people that hear that right?
But there the fear comes in, you know, and then the fear takes over and then you don't pay attention anymore
You're like, hey, are you crazy? You want me to quit my job and do what you know?
so I think I think that
Has a lot to do with that of not paint really paying attention to that spiritual realm and people
Turn back on the worldly part of things
Which is it's I'm not saying it's easy for a lot of people because I think it's really hard for people to do that
But I do think that now there is a spiritual war going on and in the whole world
And this is what they said now put your boots on oh, yeah, I'm gonna sling a lot of spiritual doo-doo here
Here we go. Am I gonna get some of you?
Offended but I'm gonna say it anyway
Now oh boy, there is a breaking of revival going on in the world. Yeah, okay, and
Thank God for everything that's going on the mega churches, you know
and and they are being anointed by God and
God is adding to the church. Yeah, okay, and when we go, you know, a lot of things could be said of the church today
You know, they go up there with a skin-tight pants, you know hair
Tennis shoes and preaching and all these things and it looks like a concert. I'm not downing that
Okay, but the fact doesn't matter is we have created in this culture a sissified Church
Sissified says they're sissies
They ain't got no
Kind of speaking power against the devil. I was hoping you weren't gonna go. Yeah
Well, here's the truth. The truth of the matter is the fact of the matter is that yes numerically is growing
Yes
Thank God for that, right
But the fact of the matter is the devil's allowing it because they know they have no real power
Against him to stop the evil forces, you know
Instead of us looking at the world and what's going on globally and the wars and the crime and all these terrible things and
Looking at it. It's the church's
responsibility to go in there and stop that and change that and and throw down the the
Demonic forces over these nations. Yes, right. Yes
That's our job, but you ain't gonna do that without any power
Unless God is empowering you unless you're walking in the spirit unless you have that, you know
You're you could grow numerically and you can have all these books out there and all these things going out there
But there is no
apostolic power
There and that's not a criticism. That's simply an
Observation. Well, you know I and and I and I agree boy. Are we getting hot here?
I I agree with you and I I think a lot of the tea a lot of the
Pastors out there a lot of the churches who are big
they're they're trying to draw everybody in just to get them get a word in them and
This is my perspective and I think they're going after the young people by you know
Using their genes and and being like them
But I think one of the things like you said is they're missing the fact that there's no spirituality in there
They're looking for the masses to come in
Yeah, and and and give them some kind of a word thinking that they're gonna save them but in the at the same time
These people are still doing worldly things and they're not being taught the actual
spirituality of what God truly is
We're moving as as a possible
Leroy Thompson talk been talking about lady. We're moving from the pastoral
to the apostolic
Absolutely, and it's in the apostolic arena. The apostolic anointing is where the true power to fight
Spiritual demonic beings in in high places. This is this is what pulls down those powers. Yes. Nothing else will do it
Yeah, they're not gonna be no songs and rhythm and all these things. That's not going to pull that down and
When you watch that, here's a here's one area
That when you start moving into the area of the Holy Spirit and you start walking in that deeper anointing
It's going to be very visible to you the ministries and the places and the Christians that have no anointing
Where they are just going through the motions and there is no power there. So again, this is not a word of criticism
it is an area of observation with a
Encouragement to the church that we got to go back now and not just
worry about how the world is going to think how we're going to do it and get back to the apostolic times of how
The first church did it
Walking in the power of God's Holy Spirit, you know
and and it's it's interesting because I think when you're walking in the Holy Spirit and you're walking in the divine light of
Our Lord, right? I
believe that people notice that people see that and
Whether they they will either draw to you or they'll draw against you, right?
And it's interesting that you say that because we do all need to walk in that
Divine light, right? We all need that
Well, and when we do that like like our good friend told us just just a little while ago that Jesus never prayed for anybody
Mmm, right that was a good he did not pray for any of them. He commanded demons to leave he commanded sickness to go
So he spoke the word
Right and Jesus didn't have arthritis, you know, he didn't have flus
He didn't have you know lupus any of these things
Yeah, and so that's where the church has to get back to you of operating
I mean if we are the body of Christ if we took an evaluation
I think the devil's out there laughing
Because you know compared to how Jesus operated and the way you guys are operating. That's a joke
So we have to go back into that area and saying okay God
Let me operate under your anointing and help me to understand how we can do this
Yeah, and really put yourself in the body of Christ, right?
Right, so I know we're getting close to the end of the program in your
Estimation. What do you see the biggest need in the area to help us?
Get back into a more deeper relationship with the Lord. I think we all need to go back into prayer
I think we need to find how to get back into that spiritual realm of
Understanding, you know, I think we've lost that
Yeah, I think we've I mean just just to sit down and pray for you know
Five minutes and say okay Lord watch over my day is not gonna do it, right?
You know
I think it's really about going in to the word and understanding it and I think it's it's time for us to go into deep
prayer and
Meditation, I think meditation is a big big part of fighting the devil
Yeah, and again like like Pastor Cho said pray and obey because the Holy Spirit
Will always lead you to do the right thing. He'll even lead us in the proper food to eat
You know, if you ask the Holy Spirit teach me how to eat correctly
So that I can maintain health in your temple because our bodies is his temple
He'll show you. Yeah, like the other night. I had a dream and I had a dream that God spoke to me
About these two specific herbs. Yes, and
Even though I've studied herbs and vitamins. I like all of that
I didn't even know that these herbs existed in a a pill form or capsule form
I've never seen them never heard of it
And one of the things that he showed me very vividly was one of these herbs in a capsule and it was mint green
It almost looked like a pistachio ice cream that it was a beautiful mint green and I've never seen a capsule like that
So immediately when I woke up, I started doing research
I wanted to find out what this herb wasn't even if they had them and
I found one of the herbs
But in capsule form that I didn't know it existed, but it wasn't green. It was it was brown
But I kept researching and then all of a sudden I came across this one site where they had the exact exact
Supplement I know a capsule form in mint green. I know used to shout it. That's it
I'm that's it. What is now button by button, but give me a credit card
And then the second one I couldn't find in in a capsule for me. It was all oil
yeah, but I kept searching because God told me that in a dream and
Lo and behold as I was persistent. I came across the site that had it in
Powder or capsule form so
God will tell you if you ask him. How do I eat correctly and he'll guide you
Yeah, I mean he guided you to find these rights, right? Yeah
I mean and what that's how I cook all the time, you know, every time I I cook or I find a new recipe
I'll I'll I'll know whether it's good for us or not, you know
Because I listen I pay attention and I think that's one of the things too. You need to pay attention for sure
Absolutely. Well, it has been so great spending time with you on this pad podcast
You know on this podcast. This is the Lord's because I have we talked about this before he bought me out
He but he bought my business out. He bought my ministry out when I thought all along it belonged to him
Yeah, and I realized when the Holy Spirit revealed that to me that had nothing to do with him
It was all about my ego
Yeah
So I'll buy you out and I'll put you on my payroll and you come do the work for me
And I thank the Lord every day because he got rid of that ego amigo exactly, right?
so we do talk about deep areas, but it's Rhema which means that it is the fresh voice of God and
it is all designed for us to take a look at the Bible and
Try to have the Holy Spirit
Guidance and direct us on the ways that we need to live our lives
For him and for the betterment of our families as well. So again, I'm your host on board
Thanking you for being here, and I'm Melinda Boyer and we'll see you next time. Love you guys