Hautärztin enthüllt: Die wahren Ursachen von Hautproblemen!

What is officially taught about the most common skin diseases? What many people associate with skin diseases are first of all rashes such as neurodermatitis, dandruff, and so on. School medicine does not pay much attention to this. These stories are then explained in great detail in studies. In the end, however, no one really knows where it comes from. With many skin diseases, you can find a relatively specific cause when you look for it. On the one hand, I find heavy metals very, very often. As I said, the skin is a detoxifying organ. Accordingly, I find a lot of toxins in the body that come into question. And if you excrete them accordingly, it gets better. On the other hand, we have a very large proportion of pathogens. Viruses, bacteria, parasites, they play an extremely important role. Nutrition plays a very important role. Many people get better if they just reduce their fat intake by half a day. That means that you really write down what kind of fat you take a day. Where is the oil in it? Nuts, seeds, of course, chocolate. So sweets in general. In this case, meat is also part of the fat. Welcome to today's interview. My name is Sören Schumann and I am interviewing Dr. Leonie Naberger today on the subject of skin diseases, skin problems. And we will take a closer look at what the causes are. Because these are relatively unknown, especially in classical school medicine, with the classical skin doctors, or are more symptomatic. And today we look at what the causes are for the different symptoms and how you can start treatment. Exactly, Leonie is a skin doctor, but she also has many other special areas, such as detoxification, nutrients, nutrition and everything that goes with it. And Leonie, maybe you can also say a few words about yourself and your work before we talk in detail about the topic of skin diseases. Yes, dear Sören, first of all, thank you very much for the invitation to the interview. Yes, as you said, I am a skin doctor by training, and now I also do a lot of other areas of expertise, or through environmental medicine, I also have many patients with different forms of disease, but of course the skin has remained an old focus of mine. And I work in the detox clinic, originally in Konstanz, now in Lübeck. And yes, especially in terms of skin, you can do a lot there if you look behind the scenes of school medicine. And I think that's what we're going to do today. Yes, you just said behind the scenes of school medicine. What is officially taught there, maybe about the most common skin diseases? What is said there? What are the causes? And how is it also treated? You could also talk about that briefly afterwards. Well, I think many people probably associate with skin diseases. First of all, there are outbreaks such as neurodermatitis, dandruff and so on. School medicine does not pay much attention to this. It should be genetic if the parents had or have neurodermatitis and both allergies. Then the child has an 80% chance of getting it too. And such stories are then extensively presented in studies. And in the end, no one really knows where it comes from. With dandruff, it's similar. You say, well, it's somehow in the family. Although we are a bit further along. There is also a little bit of a look at the diet. However, there are rumors that some should leave out meat, others should leave out gluten. And that can have an effect or not. And otherwise you know that it is related to the liver. Alcoholics often have a scab. But you are not much further along. And diagnostically it is relatively simple. On the one hand, of course, it is treated with the good old cortisone, which everyone knows for sure. It is treated with sunlight. There is a specific UVB radiation. It is a spectrum of sunlight that has an anti-inflammatory effect on the skin. And for some years now, there have been so-called biologists, i.e. substances that break through an inflammation process more specifically than, for example, cortisone and thus have fewer side effects. Terribly expensive therapy. It sometimes costs up to 10,000 euros for a syringe. 10,000 euros, okay. It is available every three months in this case, the very expensive one. And they are already successful, but you have to keep these therapies for life. And as I said, there is nothing original about it, but it is all more on the symptomatic level. Of course, there are other skin diseases that are now moving away from the outbreaks, more in the direction of re-education. So, of course, everyone knows skin cancer. Especially those caused by the sun. There is white skin cancer and black skin cancer. And of course, school medicine doesn't know much about it except for the sun, but at least it knows that you have to cut it out. Okay, and what about things like acne, pimples, things like that? There are actually quite a few therapies. Of course, cortisone wouldn't help there, that's true. That's another story where school medicine also knows that it's somehow about pathogens and, accordingly, there are antibiotics. The good old isotretinoin, of course, vitamin A acid, plus various things that you can apply to the skin from the outside. Again, the cause is more to be found in the dark. So it's all a fabrication. In case you still have someone who looks at the nutrition. Yes, so in summary, the causes are mostly unknown. Or if, then maybe it is said that we have the causes, but from your point of view and your experience, or you are not alone, it is then rather not the cause that you say, okay, it's just the genetics. And the therapies are mostly symptomatic and not so promising. Otherwise, the practices will also be empty at some point. So I used to be at the skin doctor's office with a lot of different people. And yes, I was there for many years, and although I always did what they told me, it didn't have such a breakthrough success. And I assume that this affects a lot of people. So, yes, apparently a lot is going on, I would say, wrongly, carefully formulated. Are there any other background information or something where you say, hey, this is going in the wrong direction, or this can more or less not be successful from the treatment? Well, that's the nature of the matter, that you just suppress a lot of symptoms. Of course, it is helpful if I now have someone with a whole body rash or with a severe inflammation. There are erysipelas, these are soft tissue infections that can also be life-threatening. Of course I also give an antibiotic. And we are also very grateful for the fact that this exists, that's no question. But of course, now also in relation to acne or exanthema, to suppress the symptoms in the long term, because that's what school medicine does, it's not helpful. And we also know that the skin, this reaction that it shows, shows for a certain reason. And if you suppress it, then the symptoms come from elsewhere, as homeopathy, among other things, says. So that is actually also to be proven on a gross level. And from my point of view, we are then in the area of the skin, for example, that the skin is a detoxifying organ. And if you try to detoxify it, then the toxins have to go somewhere else and then there are new problems. And the problem is that by suppressing these symptoms, well, in the best case, you overdo it until the disease is so far through. Or you really have to suppress it for life. And I always find that an extremely frustrating view, when you are told that you have to do that forever, otherwise it will happen again. And the person, the affected person, may also notice a little bit, at least, yes, that can't have been the case now. But some or many then just do it, do it with it, because the doctor tells me that, yes, there is no other solution. Nutrition is of no use, I was also told earlier by various skin doctors, so you can either take this drug, this salve, this pill, or you just leave it, but I would advise you to leave it, so to speak. And many just do it. I can't understand that you don't at least try it, because who has ever been harmed with nutrition, so actually harmed with nutrition? I mean, if you compare it to various therapies, which are offered instead. Yes, I remember, I was told, for example, yes, okay, if you would only eat sweets, only chocolate, then maybe it could make a difference. But if you eat normally, as normal people do, then you won't feel any differences and it basically doesn't work. Probably because the skin doctors don't do it themselves, they haven't been able to gain the experience themselves and then of course you can't recommend it any further. And another important point is, I believe, that the causes are sometimes worsened by various drugs, because, for example, you mentioned liver, and if I now take a lot of drugs or drugs for a long time, then the liver also weakens, although that can be a factor why the skin problems are there. And that means I can make it even worse in the long run, right? Absolutely, yes, of course. Or there are just follow-up problems. So if you talk about e-cetretinoin now, in Germany it is not so often prescribed, because doctors are subject to a certain budget, but that's the only reason, otherwise it will probably be prescribed much more often. In Switzerland, for example, it is not. It is distributed like Smarties, one might say, and there is simply the problem, for those who don't know it, that it is a highly dosed vitamin A acid, so a vitamin A that has been transformed a bit, and vitamin A goes to the liver. Vitamin A acid accordingly too, and accordingly there are also long-term effects, or side effects in this case. Yes, I think that's also a very dark chapter, so maybe even darker than now, that you now apply some salves or something, because there are really many who are damaged, and I don't think many people even know that they may have been damaged by it. So there are also investigations that this may also change or weaken the hormone production, and yes, they say, you don't get the feedback so often that people, that the essence has changed a lot. So I took it myself and noticed that I felt much worse afterwards. I saw it, for example, with my little brother, and I have already noticed from many other affected people, or got the feedback, that a lot of negative things happened there, so to speak. So also that they may have had severe liver problems afterwards, or that they felt very bad mentally, depression, the skin may be better for a short time, but then they don't feel good at all. It is also reported that this leads to suicidal thoughts, and that some people take their lives, which you can immediately relate to. Yes, that's even in the packaging, and when it was recorded there, then that's already a major factor, which has obviously occurred more often. Yes, that means here we don't get far in most cases, except for acute, it can be helpful, as you said, in special cases, but that's probably a few percent, and not 100%, as it is sometimes handled, it can be useful, it can be very helpful, that you use something like that to take something away. And then it would make a lot more sense to apply it to the causes. And you have already, or we have already mentioned a few things, such as the liver, the nutrition. What are the most important factors for you that can be influenced there, positive but of course also negative, what can be the cause of the disease? So with many skin diseases you can find a relatively specific cause when you look for it. To put it simply, on the one hand, I find heavy metals very, very often. As I said, the skin is a detoxifying organ, accordingly, I find a lot of toxins in the body that come into question, and if you excrete them accordingly, it gets better. On the other hand, we have a very large proportion of pathogens, viruses, bacteria, parasites, which play an extremely important role. And so to speak, you can say, for example, with the scalp, I have at least two heavy metals that I find in the body, in chronically poisoned doses, so not in an acute poisoning phase, where they are really extremely high, but in such a dose that I say, okay, there is definitely an influence there. And I have a virus. Sometimes it's a bacterium, but most of the time it's viruses. Of course, there are also some diseases that are primarily parasitic, or just like with erythrocytes, there is of course a bacterium behind it, but also with other, yes, exanthema outbreaks, eczema, you can find such causes relatively specifically. Okay, and are there also more specific ones, so are there things that occur more often, so special toxic heavy metals like mercury or lead or also special pathogens, where you say they occur relatively often? They are relatively common, a decisive factor? Yes, I see mercury very often, I see aluminum exorbitantly often, so even if it's somehow about a pigment disorder, or hair loss in part, so it's not the diffuse hair loss when you lose your hair, but there is such a specific circular hair loss, which can partly also occur very large-scale. For example, aluminum plays a huge role there, because if aluminum sits in the skin follicles, also in the hair follicles, and oxidizes, then the molecule enlarges and causes these respective cells to burst, to break down, and accordingly you lose the pigments or the hair accordingly. So aluminum plays a huge role there, and otherwise, of course, the day-to-day change is very, very far away. What else do we have? Lead. For older patients, a lot of lead, sometimes also for younger patients, depending on where they lived. In part, this is still with old loads, so if you lived in a house where there were lead pipes, then of course the load is extremely high, because you drank the tap water, for example. That's already relatively less, but it's sometimes surprising where you can still find it. Nickel is a factor. It is also very often found in extremely high quantities. The rest is rather rare. I also often find thallium. The rat poison has been banned for decades, but it is still found in our soils, or it has overdue and comes back into the food through the soils. And from time to time we have sources for urea. What about arsenic? Oh, right. I forgot arsenic. Arsenic is mainly produced by syringes. Arsenic is also a major factor. And cadmium? Not so, I find it rare. I think I would have to find it more often. Maybe it doesn't mobilize that well. You can get it by cigarette smoke, by exhaust, etc. By chocolate, of course. But I actually find it quite rare. And this relationship or this effect of aluminum can also be related to the fact that aluminum suppresses silicon, or that people have too little silicon. Or does one thing not have much to do with the other? Yes, it does. What does that mean? With the intake of silicon, you can of course suppress aluminum. Definitely, yes. The reason why there is a lack of silicon is less, I think. But with therapy, definitely, yes. And with the pathogens, you said, often viruses are a topic. Which occur particularly often? Maybe there are also special viruses that trigger special complaints. Are there also connections or observations from you? The most common are Epstein-Barr viruses. The most common are dandruff viruses, i.e. Zoster, and cytomegaly viruses also relatively often. There are a few rarities. There are even more. Most of them are viruses from this herpes group. Dandruff and Epstein-Barr all belong to the herpes virus group. Lip herpes also plays a role in the skin, but this is of course more locally limited and relatively clearly assigned. Assigning specific diseases to specific viruses is rather difficult. I have to say, I wouldn't have been able to do it because the proof is difficult. In the end, we don't have many antiviral therapies and specific therapies at all. With antibiotics, you have to make a strong distinction between the bacteria and the antiviral agents. Most of the time, they are more widespread agents that are used, so that the special differentiation does not fall so heavily. If you know it's about viruses, you always take relatively similar measures. You just made the experience that if the viruses are treated, if the virus load is reduced, the symptoms get better. Or can get better. Yes, definitely. And what about copper? Copper plays a certain special role because we also need copper. However, we all get way too much copper in our food. Copper is usually way too much, but it usually comes out quite quickly and is at least not such a big problem as aluminum or silver, where you just need a lot longer to get your foot on the ground. Okay, and you get it out through zinc, or do you use special excretory agents to get copper out? I usually excrete copper on the side. Because I often give people gelatin, copper is automatically bound and comes out accordingly. And with copper, in some circles it is also quite hyped. Also in the English-speaking area they say, we need a lot of copper, we need copper without copper. I think the iron exchange is not going well and most people have a copper shortage. But you can't confirm that now, can you? No, on the contrary. I think too much copper. If someone has too little, it happens, but it's a rarity. I'm always amazed when I find someone. I would definitely advise against substituting copper blindly, preferably not at all. Maybe only after a proven shortage, for example. Right, exactly. I remember, for example, I got a lot of DNPS infusions and then had a copper shortage because probably the copper went out with it. Right, exactly. This is a special state. Of course, if you excrete, you have to add copper from a certain phase, then you definitely have a shortage. But that also shows how quickly it comes out. Yes. Okay, then we have the pathogens, we have the toxins. What about nutrition? Which foods should be removed from the diet plan and which are perhaps very helpful? Nutrition plays a very important role. Many people get better if they just reduce their fat intake by half a day. Then they usually get better. That means that you really write down what kind of fat do I take every day, where is the oil in it, nuts, seeds, of course chocolate, sweets in general. In this case, meat also belongs to fat. If you write that down and just think about eating only half of every food, you will experience a difference. The second biggest influence is on dairy products. Dairy products also have a certain amount of fat, so they are also part of the daily intake of fat. But they are also extremely inflammatory, so I would say dairy products are definitely best avoided for skin diseases. No matter which one, whether goat, whether sheep, whether raw milk or not, no matter what. We always have caseins in it. Well, with some cheeses, I think casein is no longer in it, but we still have the foreign hormones from the milk, which are actually intended for small animals and which, on the other hand, have to be removed by our liver. We have, as I said, the fat content in it and we have inflammatory substances, apart from casein, which are now partly reappearing in research. So actually the milk just doesn't get away well. Okay, and again about the fats. You say reduce the fat by half. What do you say about high-quality fat sources such as fresh olives or avocado or what else is there, maybe coconut or some fresh nuts cracked right in front of the tree or germinated seeds. What about that? Of course you should take the fat that you take with you, especially high-quality, of course, and don't forget the omega-3 fatty acids. Nevertheless, I would also reduce the good fats by half and see what that does. Because I actually have the most success with that. So this is the first measure that the patients are still doing relatively well. With milk products, many already find it difficult to avoid. But reducing the fat only to half, it's not about reducing it. Many can do that well and notice a difference right away. Because the fat also burdens the liver. The liver has to pull the fat out of the blood. And if you relieve the liver by simply having less fat, the liver can take better care of other tasks. For example, keeping chronic infections in check or detoxification. Detoxification of toxins. Okay, I was just about to ask whether this is also related to the liver. Would you recommend this permanently? So the fat reduction to half? Or would you recommend it only as a cure? Because we also need special fats because they are precursors of hormones and so on and so forth. Also important for the brain. Or do you say that with a relatively low amount of fat you are still best cared for if it's the right fats? Yes, if you now reduce your fat content to half, it will be more likely that you still absorb relatively a lot of fat. That's not necessarily little. Reducing fat completely to zero is also a certain approach, but we don't necessarily need it for skin diseases. It depends on how hard they have to run. With one or the other, I've done that before, but only as a cure. So living completely without fat, that doesn't have to be. Okay. Because we all grow up with cholesterol at some point. I recently talked to a doctor who is also a natural scientist and does a little environmental medicine and so on. And he said that someone over 50 is normal to have cholesterol over 200. Because that's just the way it is these days and the limit values ​​are too narrow. I think to myself, well, actually the limit values ​​have been widened more and more because the values ​​of the patients have become worse and worse. I'm on the other side anyway. So to reduce fat in our food and to reduce that to half is already quite good. What about gluten? Gluten is not as essential to the skin as milk and fat, but it also comes into play when the first two measures have not been taken or have not been sufficiently taken. So gluten does not have the effect on the skin as it does on other diseases, but it also has an effect. Gluten is also inflammatory. But let's put it this way, if you say now, maybe it doesn't do much for the skin, but you would still recommend it to people because they benefit from it on other levels. It depends on where I have to pick up the patient. If I first tell the patient that he should eat 100% organic, then I won't get very far with gluten, I guess. But if I now have someone who is already half raw food or has already dealt a lot with nutrition, then I would definitely say, gluten brings a boost. Yes, for sure. There are receptors in the intestine that you know quite well by now that transmit the inflammation through the gluten and they are not directly linked to the skin, but of course it works indirectly because the body's willingness to inflame also has an effect on the skin. Are there any other factors where you say this is a big lever, such as the issue of sun or light? You said that in some cases UVB radiation is used. Do you advise people who have these skin issues to dose sunbathing, for example? What does it look like there? Yes, of course. I just wanted to add to nutrition that eggs also contribute to the fat content and that eggs often have a bad influence on skin diseases. This is relatively clearly observable. That means, before I ask for gluten freedom, I would first say that you should leave the eggs alone. Even if the chickens live with me at home, eat wild herbs and hemp seeds, linseed, it still tastes bad. Yes, it doesn't depend on the ingredients next to the cholesterol in the egg, but apparently on the cholesterol intake itself. Okay, and you would be careful there. Possibly also other substances. There is also the theory that you should leave the eggs alone, which is definitely the case, because in the laboratory, when we breed viruses there, we often use eggs as food media. That means, viruses have learned to live on eggs extremely well. And since I often find viruses, as I said, we didn't talk about Borrelia, that also plays a role, and there are also parasites and I would leave eggs alone. Anything else on the topic of nutrition? Otherwise, I would go back to the topic of the sun. Let's go back to the sun. I definitely recommend sunbathing to the patient. 80% of the body surface 20 to 30 minutes a day in the midday sun. You can only do that from April to September, but in October the sun's radiation is already so weak again that nothing happens. But basically a good measure. Absolutely, yes. The sun itself is anti-inflammatory. In terms of school medicine, it is already on a relatively good path when it says UVB cabin. Whether you have to leave out the UVA or not is a bit questionable. There is also boring UVA light, which also has a special cream on the skin. But what is officially cancer-causing is UVB light. But it also needs a certain amount of heavy metals. So in white skin cancer, for example, which is supposedly only triggered by the sun in school medicine, you have regularly found mercury molecules. That means there will also be a certain cofactor. So that on the one hand the sun alone is not necessarily cancer-promoting, but that there are always cofactors that come with it. So that school medicine makes it a bit too easy here. If you now use the sun for health, then the cofactor is absolutely predominant. I'm not in favor of getting sunburns. Definitely not. You should really only use your own protection and be realistic about it. If it only takes 20 minutes, then only 20 minutes. And if you are a Celtic skin type with red hair and summer spots, then maybe it's only 10 minutes. But I would definitely use these 10 minutes. On the other hand, if I have a Turkish background, for example, and I have a relatively dark skin, then I would definitely stay in the sun for up to an hour, because otherwise nothing happens. In addition to the fact that the sun has an anti-inflammatory effect on the skin and skin diseases disappear better, they also have the positive effect that vitamin D is formed. And vitamin D is also health-promoting and also plays a very big role from the inside. And conventional sun protection, light protection factor 50 with all the substances that are in there, is probably a bad idea. Yes, well, what does a bad idea mean? So if I can't avoid the sun and I'm really in danger of getting a sunburn, then you just have to do it. But there are also differences in quality, right? Yes, of course, sure. But there is no really golden solution. So either I have chemical substances or I have the physical substances, where I also have titanium in it, for example. That also goes through the skin into the blood and studies have already been done. If you have applied a cream on the left arm, you look, you get this substance on the right arm. It doesn't take long, then it comes on. So it is definitely absorbed. That means, whether physically or chemically it's not that great, but of course better than sunburn, in that case, of course. Okay, but it's best to be aware of sunbathing, that you, as you said, just sit down until a certain point in the sun and then maybe otherwise your skin is covered with a shadow or over the clothing, over the hat, whatever. Like maybe the people did a few hundred years ago where there was no sun protection. Yes, that's what's really, really good. If it's somehow compatible with life, so to speak, with our lifestyle, then I would always go out in the spring, as much as possible, and always stay out in the sun or even if it's cloudy, stay outside, because that's how the skin gets used to the sun. If I sit in a closed room in the shade all the time and then suddenly go out on summer vacation, then it is also clear that I get sunburn relatively quickly. So you have to say that a hundred years ago people were certainly more outside than they are today and therefore got used to the sun in a completely different way until it was so intense in the summer. Sun protection from the inside there are also some exciting substances, such as astaxanthin or vitamin E, for example, or a good vitamin D mirror can also be helpful. Is there anything where you say that has proven itself in practice that you support it from the inside? Yes, I would say yes. Tendentially yes. I don't know any studies about it, but everything that is somehow free radicals form in the skin, that is, everything that somehow catches away free radicals, that is of course also helpful that a sunburn does not occur so quickly. So astaxanthin, vitamin E, vitamin C, definitely yes. Omega 3. Vitamin D in the end, of course, also because of that, vitamin D is formed in the skin by the sun, by the sunlight, to strengthen the skin again and build up a certain protection. Well done. And with omega 3, do you recommend algae oil? So EPA, DHA or what do you recommend? Exactly. First of all, I would take algae oil. Fish oil is too heavy. Microalgae would be best. So there are microalgae and that's why it's a special oil, so to speak. Right, exactly. Yes, there are also preparations for me. Yes, okay. Well, now we have ... Exactly, one factor is still there. Classically, it is said that you have to do something on the outside because the problem is on the skin. Creams, masks, some treatments with cosmetics. What are your experiences in this regard and what role, what weight does it have in the treatment? Creams from the outside are more supportive. The problem is, I mean, it's not just on the outside, it's also on the inside. That something primarily occurs in the skin and then only in the outer layer, that's rather unlikely. Then the poison would have come from the outside. For example, you got hurt. Yes, of course. Or you got infected or had problems with the larynx. But otherwise, the skin is just the organ that you can see. But still, it comes from the inside. I think this is also widespread knowledge that it is very strongly linked to the gut, that it is also very strongly linked to the liver. So, of course, all three organs play relatively close together. That you do something on the skin from the outside is at most a short-term symptomatic therapy. And it can also be harmful. If I apply cortisone cream, then it can also harm me. Yes, of course. The cortisone is absorbed by the body and suppresses the symptoms. The body then tries to detoxify through the next organ, which hopefully is not hindered in its work by symptom suppression or is otherwise burdened by something else that has already attacked the body. As I said, I do use creams. If you only have erythematosus all over your body, then it suffers so strongly in an acute case that a therapy from the inside intervenes. That takes too long. Then I see that we first push it back from the outside so far that the quality of life is reasonably there again, that it no longer suffers acutely. And then we go to fight the causes and to work on it so that it no longer occurs. Because what everyone in school medicine says now is to do a proactive therapy. Now we treat before something comes. And every three days we put cortisone on it and hope that the skin disease doesn't even occur. Wonderful. Then we also suppress when there is nothing to see. And of course I wouldn't do that. That's the complete opposite of what I want. I would actually go with nutrition, with otomolecularia. I would go against it and that works really well especially with skin diseases. And even if someone now says I use natural substances for skin care or for therapy from the outside. What is there? I see special masks with honey. So let's say there are really high-quality things and really good things, but still the effectiveness is probably limited and the big lever is the inner therapy, right? Yes. Because what you see on the skin has come out from the inside. And if I always treat the skin from the outside I will not get any further at a certain point. Because what I put on the skin from the outside is already absorbed by the body. But of course it has a completely different purpose. That is much too little in the doses than what could happen in the body. So with the good things. You don't have to apply the cortisone anymore. You can also, for example, work with retinopathy. This is a substance that is really good for the skin as long as the skin is not open. Because that's mostly alcohol and of course it burns terribly. Aloe vera gel is a good idea. There are things you can do from the outside, but the big lever, as you say, is from the inside. Nothing helps there. What about special baths such as basin baths or salt baths? Dead sea bath salt. They are detoxifying. You do them to detoxify. That means we are again in the primary therapy. To support the skin as a detoxification organ. That's something else. You don't put anything on it or anything on it. You support what the skin is trying and can't do because it's overloaded. That's definitely a good idea. Yes, and because the entire surface is in the water and then also on the skin, but also in the body, it is a good thing that you support yourself once or twice a week while it is acute. Yes, three times. I wouldn't do it more often than three times because the skin dries out again by bathing. I also don't like basin baths. On the other hand, basin foot baths, we detoxify the feet relatively well, but they are not as effective as the baths for the whole body. Okay. Then I would go through the individual points again relatively at the end. Maybe you could say what of your experience generally worked relatively well relatively often. What was the most effective? Of course, I don't know that it applies to everyone because everyone is individual, but where you usually had very good experiences. For example, when it comes to detoxification, what would be your favorite substances you like to work with that you are very successful with? Here in Prax, I take Shellatone, DMPS, EDTA and so on. For the patient at home in self-therapy, that's certainly nothing, but you have to detox as controlled as possible. And what you can do yourself, that can be a bit uncontrolled. But I say, if you are generally healthy and only have minor skin problems, then you can certainly dare to take, for example, Berlauf or coriander to detoxify. That's definitely good, that works too, but not in the very severe cases, but in the mild cases. What you probably can't go wrong with I mentioned earlier, there are also various preparations. There are gels that are a bit weaker and there is something in droplet form that already has a relatively strong effect, which also has a very, very good effect on the skin. Do they also make sense externally, additionally? Yes, of course, you can take everything and apply it to the skin, that's right. You have to be a little more careful with chlorella. I have recently noticed that spirulina is not as bad as the call to Mr. Mutter, from whom I learned, that you can do a lot with spirulina. Chlorella just has the problem that you have to take enough otherwise it will let go again. If you take too little and partly mobilize the toxins more than they really come out, there are deteriorations. Especially with the skin, this can be relatively extreme with the deterioration, otherwise alpha-liposaccharide is also a very good idea. Of course, it will be a little more on the inside than on the skin, but as I said, depending on where the problems are, I have really made breakthroughs with it. Glutathione in any case, although glutathione as a capsule form you have to say that you should rather take the individual components. The three amino acids, so to speak. Right, the three amino acids, or if then reduced glutathione and in the L-acetyl form that is still the most stable, which somewhat survives the stomach acid. Yes, that was already some means. Coal. What did you say? Coal, active coal. And of course pay attention to the quality. So maybe it's almost a whole interview actually then, but there will be a lot of questions now. Maybe briefly about spirulina. Where should it come from? Do you take some from somewhere else? I take Hawaiian spirulina. Hawaiian, okay. Because there is also the assumption that it may not be that clean, but you have good experience with it. Yes, exactly. I always took it from my mother and learned and have recently found that there is one or the other certificate that is not so bad. So above all there were successes, so from patients who came to me with the remedy, where I really thought, hey, they took it now and it got better. Maybe I should take a closer look. I have the feeling that there is something in it. Okay. And you haven't tried it in Germany yet, have you? No, I haven't. So I tried it. I didn't notice any special effects in terms of the skin, because the skin has been healthy for a few years, but for example, I had quite a lot of hair loss some time ago. I don't know exactly what the reason was. Could be different factors, but in any case I ate a lot of spirulina, maybe 500 grams in one week, two weeks. And then my hair grew back quite well again. They were really little in between. Okay, I think you recommend chlorella from the German glass tube system, right? Yes, exactly. Glutation, you said, either the amino acids, glutamine, glycine and cysteine. Exactly. Or the reduced form. What is it called? There are also... Lactylglutation is then the one that comes through the gastric acid first, or is not split so wide in the gut that the body only has the individual part. Yes, exactly. And you said medical cholesterol. And with alpha-liposaccharide, is there anything else to watch out for? It has to be R-alpha-liposaccharide, at least 300 milligrams, better 600. And, well, in general, the preparations have to be pure. Especially with alpha-liposaccharide, there is a lot of impurity. By that I mean the classic additives in the capsules. If you find one with only alpha-liposaccharide and the capsule shell around it, then you are relatively good at it. I would say so. And how is it with the antiviral drugs? Are there any where you say you use them relatively often with good success? So if I want to go against viruses, of course I use zinc vitamin C first, but then especially lysine. Lysine, but really highly dosed. You really need a few grams a day, four to eight grams, depending on the state. So now classic lip herpes, that's a success. Of course, that's more of an emergency therapy. You can also take eight grams per day, but people usually get a little tired to take so many tablets. And also with lysine, there are quite a few quality differences. So if you take loose powder, it doesn't mean it works as well as the capsules of another company. So there are really differences. Monolaurin is very, very good antiviral. And then of course in terms of herbs, we have a relatively large range of herbs that can be used there, from thyme to lemon, millet to sweet wood root. What we didn't mention now were also intestinal bacteria, I just remembered. But that's not the topic of viruses now, but that would be again in general for the skin. So often this connection with the intestine. I got acne patients better alone through probiotic capsules. That's why I wanted to mention that on the side now. Very good. Antiviral would otherwise still be called cat's claw. That's also important. Okay. A lot of what you just said is already going relatively strongly in the direction of Anthony William. But are there also things where you say that you see it fundamentally differently than him? Yes, of course. For example, can you briefly indicate? He uses a lot of fruit. He does have some nutritional supplements that somehow don't work. I've noticed over the years. I don't think you can really hurt yourself with most of the things he recommends, except you eat too much fruit. The patients get worse in turn. Otherwise, I just see lasting successes, I have to admit. So if you detoxify or eat in turn, it's certainly a very good approach. And it's also 80% consistent with what we've always said. That's why we have certain overlaps. If that would work so well, then the patients would always ask so much, I guess. Yes, okay. There seems to be a limit. And I think he said it himself somewhere in an interview. A patient told me that his methods somehow no longer work as well after 20 years. But I don't know that. I didn't hear the interview. But I thought it would match my experience. It's certainly a good start because it also contains gluten-free and various dairy-free, etc. These are very good approaches that definitely help. And the antiviral drugs, the herbal drugs, definitely help too. And there are also different approaches that are not necessarily a world novelty that he is writing about now. This has already been practiced in some ways before. Yes, of course, the composition is new, but it's just his own way, I think. Then finally, two more questions. First in general, Would you say that basically, if you take the steps that you recommend, that an improvement or even a complete healing is almost always possible, if the circumstances are right? Yes, you have relativized all possible choices, I could also sign that. Every person is extremely different, there are diseases that are a bit more difficult, for example, I have to say that I need a long time for the patients with severe scabies, it takes time, it's not easy to crack. Whereas against neurodermatitis, I would say that the patients get better faster and that a healing is basically possible, I would say yes. And that also without strong drugs, because on the other hand, it is not necessarily communicated that you can also get healthy without drugs. Yes, I don't know who is listening right now, but for example there will be many who may not have complete body eczema right away, but may only have a partial problem. And if you only change the diet, it may be that the skin disease disappears by itself. And last question, is there a special order in which you say, hey, we'll start, for example, first we'll change the diet or leave it all out first, which causes damage, then maybe fill in micronutrients, then maybe detoxify. Is there some kind of order in which you proceed or is it also very individual? Well, there is of course a rough order, there are of course patients who have some things in the foreground where you have to deviate from the order, but first of all, as you say, I would always change the diet. Avoid everything with harmful substances, so to speak, I would add the good substances, i.e. give a supplement. And in the third step, then excrete when the rest of the conditions are given. So it always depends a bit on how intensively you excrete. Of course, you have to look a little more closely to see if the conditions are in order, if everything is so far that you can do it without danger. And then possibly the pathogens? That is always the last step, or you can also let it run a bit parallel. Yes, that's true. Because if you treat the pathogens too early, even though there may be a heavy metal load, then we cannot keep the success. The body manages it, it does not have the strength. Because it is blocked by heavy metals, it can actually keep the pathogens in check or completely defeat them. And that's why always first excretion, then pathogen treatment. Then I would say we have put together the most important components on skin diseases, skin symptoms in this interview, or you. And I think that is very, very helpful and also very inspiring for people who want to go down this path. And who may have tried it in a more conventional way for a few years and did not really have permanent success. And yes, from me again the message. I also had strong acne for 10 years and then got it done in a relatively short time, simply with natural measures. And although I was always told beforehand that it is simply genetic, it is hormonal. You can't do anything now, at some point in age it will be less. And I think that applies to many viewers here. So again the message. It is definitely possible and you can definitely influence it very, very positively. If you apply the various factors on the various levels, take out the negatives and replace them positively, so to speak. Then a lot is possible. And even if that is not the official opinion, I think you and your colleagues have seen thousands of people with different skin problems. If you apply it based on the causes, there can definitely be a big improvement, right? Yes, you can say that. Skin diseases can really be influenced very, very well by these methods. Okay, good. Then thank you very much. Dear Leonie, you also have a relatively new homepage, which we will link here. Can you also say what it is called? I called it Detox Klinik EU. Okay. And you even do online counseling, right? Because you are in Lübeck. But a lot of people from Switzerland, Austria, and southern Germany are watching. You also offer online counseling. Yes, of course. So maybe I have 10% or less of the patients who live here on site. The rest live partly around the world. That's why it's a good, common possibility, especially in relation to skin diseases, because you can definitely see them in the video. Yes, and you have also developed solutions, like the things that are usually only used in practice, that you have solutions for people who can also use them at home. Yes, of course. There are instructions, possibilities, and also various concepts on how to implement the appropriate therapies. And that's actually very individual. And that has to be determined and clarified again and again for everyone. But there are very, very good solutions. Okay, great. Then who is interested, the website, the homepage of Leonie is linked below the video. And yes, I thank you for this valuable information, for all your experiences that you have shared with us. And I'm already looking forward to our next interview. Thank you very much. I'm also looking forward to the next interview. See you. Bye.